Ironic that he gets picked for England when he doesn’t play for his club but now he is, he won’t get picked for England. Says everything you need to know about Southgate.

Graeme brought up a great point when Pardew said "he did terrific for Englan." The fact that England play a lot of games against teams that are not as good as some Premier league teams until later stages of competitions is overlooked in debates about players such as Maguire as well.

As a leeds fan i can say souness is spot on. Kalvin Phillips was a bang average mid table championship midfielder for years, until bielsa came in during the summer of 2018. And like with so many leeds players, he somehow managed to squeeze more out of them than anyone ever thought possible. He accentuated their positives and for quite a long while he was excellent at camouflaging their negatives. Once Phillips lost bielsa, he lost what made him very good in the first place. Talent wise hes a championship midfielder, but he had a system centred around him at leeds that made him look far better than he ever actually was. I laughed when he joined man city, as i knew that he misplaced far too many simple passes and committed far too many fouls to ever be considered for a man city side. That never mattered at leeds, but in a pep guardiola man city team... it was never going to cut it.

Souness is seemingly the only pundit in the whole of Britain who gets it.

Watch Southgate call up kalvin phillips for the England team 😂😂😂

500k a week the Philips deal is costing us absolutely shocking.

Southgate is a fool. Picking utter averages like Henderson, Phillips and Maguire 😂

Kalvin Phillips couldn't lace Graeme Souness boots 💯 Facts

Harvey Elliott has made almost the same number of Premier league appearances as Kalvin Phillips, who is 8 years older. Most people would say Harvey still has a lot to prove as a premier league player. Why is it different for Kalvin? All we have as evidence of his ability in the premier league is two injury hit seasons at Leeds. That's it. His international record is clouding his premier league record.

What more do they want? He’s solidly midtable and won a trophy last season. What do West Ham expect, given their history over the last 30 years?

Pardew tongue tied has to resort to Phillips England form 🥴 almost as bad as yesterday when he mentioned Holgates haircut like that had anything to do with the challenge 😂

3 games 1 mistake lead to a goal vs Bournemouth 1 mistake lead to a Goal vs man United and a red card vs Forest

Souness speaking a lot of sense for a change.

Never rated Kalvin Phillips. He’s only rated by Leeds fans. He only gets in the England squad because we have a lack of depth in deep lying centre midfield. Mainoo and Garner would be better options for his England place.

Great to see proper football chat once again on TalkSPORT !

Kalvin Philips equivalent to Alan Pardew standard.. Bang average rubbish

I’m a Leeds fan and kalvin is definitely overrated .

How can you be when you don’t play for two years 😂

This one of the better TalkSport segments regarding current situation at West Ham. Souness gets it…. Pards gets it although you can feel his loyalty to a fellow manager so doesn’t go in on Moyes but can sense he wants to. So many pundits just use the table to throw the ‘What more do you want’ at the fans but for once this isn’t one of them. Just wish the board would take notice as this isn’t just a reaction to the last 8 matches this is based on a lot of last seasons poor premiership matches. Take the conference league win of last year and it’s been pretty damn poor all in all. And the win percentage of Moyes without the European games is not all that great considering over a third of his league wins came in the lockdown season and they have been on decline since year by year. This seasons start has flattered us and although we’ve had some big wins it says a lot when the GK is man of the match more regularly than the attackers scoring the winning goals.

The situation at West Ham is one of caught inbetween a rock and a hard place. Moyes is not a front foot style manager but 2 x top 6 or 1 with a 7th( not sure) finishes is a major achievement considering the so called top 6 then add in Newcastle; Brighton; now Villa too . Then they have gone and spent a fair amount by their standards with some flair added and the fans expect better football for their loyalty every week. So they could get rid of Moyes and the next guy may play so called better football but not reach those heights.

Good to hear Souness speak some sense about Moyes' "style".

Kalvin Phillips is not to blame for West Ham's problems.

What does Philips actually bring to the team

Pardew understands if the football is boring and performances drop and so does your league position then you're walking a tight rope at West Ham he understands the passion with our fans. The fans of other clubs that are sticking their 20p in the mix need to actually watch us play for 90 mins for a couple weeks and you will get depressed as a neutral so imagine what it's like for lifelong west ham fans. Lucky results with dire football. We been riding our luck for a long time. Media pundits are clueless but continue this pathetic narrative that Moyes is the best thing since sliced bread

Finally it's undeniable and understood ⚒️

If Pardew thinks that Bench warmer is Quality! Then that clearly shows why he has always been at small medioca Clubs 👍🏻

Arsenal fan here, I used to watch all Leeds games during Bielsa era. They’re entertaining.

Got to agree with Graeme. Most teams England play are Mickey Mouse teams and make the England players look better then what they actually are.

When it works then great but as the caller says when it doesn’t it’s terrible. Supposed to be set play specialists and defensive experts. Shipped a lot of goals and scored none recently.

The bottom line is Moyes is a defensive manager. Sits back in the hope to krrp a game tight and nick a win. What invariably happens though is we fall behind and then we are forced to go on the front foot. When we do go on the front foot searching to get back into the game we can be pretty nice on the eye. Now with Paqueta out we have absolutely no creative spark and we could be on the pitch for 7 days and still not score. Moyes has turned promising players into robots eith his tracking back demands and they just look as if they dont want to be here. If I hear the 'he's won us our first trophy in 43 years' I'll flip. Lets be honest, Ted Lasso could have led us to glory last season in that competition. Moyes idn't brave enough to br a top top manager. I wan't a manager who wants their players to die going out on their shields than players hiding in a corner cowering from hordes of barbarians that have just stormed the room. Sooner Moyes is out the better. Pards was never that manager!

As a West Ham fan I can honestly say he’s one of our worst signings in years. Thank god it’s a loan, as at this rate it won’t be made permanent.

Ruben Loftus-Cheek needs a recall he's been quality for Milan this season.

Well done Talksport for not being100% anti- West Ham Sullivan puppets for one video

Leeds fan and loved KP, knew his move to MC was dumb especially as they'd just got Rodri.. Honestly though I'm thinking KP wouldn't get back into the Leeds Squad at the moment.. ok maybe as a rotation option, but at present he wouldn't dislodge Gruev, Kamara, or even an in position Gray or Ampadu imho.

Finally people are accepting he's bottom of the Prem/ top of the Championship level. It's bewildering that he got so many caps. He's effectively another Danny Drinkwater- did well in a very specific role in a niche team for a short period and people misinterpreted that as his talent level. I've literally been saying this for years.

Pardew doesn't know what he's talking about just like Southgate ... Phillips couldn't get into the Man City side and his problem seems to be he can only pass the ball backwards !

I get the feeling Souness isn't keen on Pardew...

the yorkshire pudding 😆

Souness doesn’t like anyone 🤣

seems the media are starting to understand.....

Yes it's Moyes's ball which most don't like.

Great show sums it up - now we have an aging squad because no one wants to come to west ham and track the ball

This is the 1st balanced argument on talksport with pundits knowing why theres unrest rather than backing there m8s with what are you moaning about

You have to be able to defend using Moyes tactics! 11-0 in 3 games suggests West Ham can´t defend!

Have to agree with Souness for a change.

Moyes prolly thought Phillips was gonna come in and do a lingard… tough luck

I think Souness is right Kalvin Phillips all of a sudden became good enough for England when Leeds got promoted without playing in the premier league and had a decent season at leeds when the whole team over achieved went to Man City who realised he wasn’t as good as they thought and had one good tournament at International level as many players do but then get found out as not being as good as everyone thinks

Can we stop pretending the conference league is at all impressive it’s not

Kelvin Phillips went to city to improve and win a place in the 1st team he was quite happy to plod along as a squad player pep saw he wasn’t up to the task and moved him on,he’s now got to knuckle down and rebuild his career at West Ham,has he got the right mentality after taking the money at city for no work

Congratulations TalkSport this Pardew-Souness combination is really engaging. I know, as a Newcastle fan, I didn't enjoy either of their respective tenures tbh by an large (they both were there under very difficult circumstances) - but I do admire their opinions and their achievements overall.

About time...Well played Graeme Souness, A pundit that finally understands !! Moyes Out !!

The look on Souness' face when PRdew goes "I didn't get the sack at Newcastle" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Youd think pardew would offer some insight due to his managerial career but he has no substance, doesn't say anything of value at all, dave at my local pub can say everything he sais

There you go that caller Paul - I called that 18 months ago November 7th 2021 was when we beat Liverpool 3-2 entering football also - since then we have had static tatic wins …..BORING

Not so long ago all the pundits were saying ‘6th and a European trophy’. Now they’re saying ‘9th and a trophy’. If Moyes stays in a few weeks we’ll be in the bottom half and out of the Europa League. What will they say then? Just a reference to a trophy last season which frankly, we should have won, as should Villa. The difference in quality and player value between prem teams and their opposition in this cup is vast.

Thank you, Pards & Souness. Understanding at last from pundits who know the game. Unlike Jordan, who thinks he understands because he had money to buy a club and failed.

D Moyes will probably want to sign the Yorkshire pudding permanently ! 🤣🤣🤣

We can’t even make 3 passes. It’s not much to ask for! How dare ppl gaslight us.

Normally Souness talk nonsense but he is spot on here.

You can almost justify the horrendous style of football, when we are winning games. You play that badly, and then lose every week what else is left? Spot on Souness

Want to see good football and be entertained,we don’t get that with Moyes

Pardew got no bottle when he's put under pressure. Well played Sounness. Goes from saying he's a terrific player to 'he wasn't the right singing for West Ham' after one question. Poor punditry

3 points from 18 in 2024, 4 goals in 7 games, no goals in last 3, 500 million spent on players, no centre forward, left wing, play off the back foot, wingers more defensive never go past the half way line, no body can use the Euro cup win as justification as to get a new contract especially when you have a one dimensional manager with no plan B 😎

I wouldn't want Kalvin Phillips in my championship teams squad. Like most midfielders who'll start the next England game, he is absolutely sh*t !

Another factor that doesn’t get mentioned is the coaching staff. When Moyes returned for the second spell we had Irwin, Stuart Pearce, Paul Nevin (Englands set piece coach) and Kevin Nolan. It’s only Nolan that’s still at the club the others have all left for various reasons. I believe that has had an impact. Because when you watch them there’s no patterns of play they look lost on what to do other than side ways and go backwards. It’s stale and needs new ideas and that comes from new management.

Sourness is right nicking results.

The problem with kalvin is he’s a confidence player and he’s confidence is at an all time low at the minute. Get him playing for a manager who can get that confidence back and make him feel loved and wanted and he’ll be back to he’s best like he was at Leeds… Gareth Southgate makes him feel like that and that’s why you never really see him have a bad game for England. Bielsa was the same for him he just needs a run of games and a manager who believes in him

Caller Simon, hit nail on the head. Well said. We will always stay a fan of West Ham, maybe not go and watch them with this manager.COYI

I'm surprised this club hasn't seen the light.. They have now a good collections of players & I think Moyes has taken them as far as he can. They need a different way of operating now. When I watch them play, it screams lack of modern tactics. Potter is there, & I think he could tweak things just enough to get some juice out of this group. Kalvin phillips messed up his own career (injury notwithstanding) by taking an unwise jump to the upper echelon club. He was a good player but how he even thought he would bump any of the midfielders at City was just weird, no self-awareness. This guy needed a place where he can play REGULAR football but I guess he didn't value that.

Even Jim is starting to doubt moyes now. He wouldn't say a bad word a few weeks ago.

Would love to know what Souness was yelling at 5:34 😂😂😂

Now, why is it that Jim White has been hearing this argument for months, but it takes Graham Souness to say it before it actually sinks in?

In the prem under Bielsa he was unreal , city away when Leeds won he was a joke how good he was. Pep has ruined him , I wouldn’t rule him out when he gets going.

That premier league game stat is shocking 😮

At least Souness gets it. Getting fed up of pundits talking about west ham fans as being entitled because we want to see better, proactive football.

The last time West Ham complained about mot playing the West Ham way, they got relegated.

I'm normally 50/50 on Souness's opinions but he's spot on here. Nice to hear a pundit not towing the line that Moyes is doing fine and what are the fans complaining about.

Well said, Graeme. Pardew is yet another English pundit on the football media gravy train who needlessly praises bang average English players.

The title of some of these videos are funny 😂 and at the same time ridiculous 😂

Give us a call if u want moyes in… lol just not even hiding it

Souness is 100% right, Phillips is not good enough to be a Premiership footballer and has proven that on a regular basis.Another reason why Pardew's judgement just cannot be trusted.'Slabhead ' Harry , would have been a better choice and that says something.

Would Souness not say that he is more of a Unsteady Eddie

Pardew is a fool.

Souness seems to understand what we want,no one else does

You can't argue with souness he knows his football

Some good points

Pardew must be still buzzing off Andy Woodman getting everyone those 8 year deals at Newcastle.

Jim seemed genuinely gutted at the valid points being raised by caller 1 and 3 (in addition to AP & GS). Even looked a little excited when caller 2 began to praise Moyes' tactics before providing balance to the equation. Don't feel he is impartial in this debate.

I feel really sorry for Phillips. He got a dream move to city, but never played. I think he needs a little bit of time to get back to speed. He’s defo a quality player.

Phillips has proven he’s a premier league player under Bielsa and he got Englands player of the tournament in the euros ? Claiming he’s not prem standard is obscene

What does Phillip's bring to a team.

More to the point, Jarrod Bowen has failed miserably since the FA Cup game against Bristol City after doing very until then. Moyes has refused to sign a second striker for a number of seasons, relying on Antonio, and then decides to make Bowen the main sole striker who is now firing blanks. That is purely a man management issue and Moyes must consider his future if West Ham are in the bottom half in a few months.

Souness played at the highest level ⚽️ he would lose his mind playing in that west ham team, he knows how the game is supposed to be played 👏🏻⚒COYI

Asking to hear from a moyes in fan to chat with him.... still waiting i take it! 😂

West Ham sell two wingers, play players out of position, because they have a small ageing squad. How has that happened? Must be a combination of the owners and management not creating a squad capable of performing for a whole season.

Well Pep must have thought so when he authorised the transfer

He was England's best player of Euro 2020, people seem to forget that.

Moyes is bang on with his summary. What he isn't understanding is that fans have fallen out of love with his style of play. They want more, they believe they have the talent in the squad and its fair for the fans to want more.

Ridiculous. Phillips is a quality CDM in an anchor role. Anybody who doesn't get that has 'zero ball knowledge' as they say.

Kalvin Phillips was decent at Leeds but a certain Bielsa shaped him that way on his strong points. The players Bielsa put around him immediately in that side made him look an essential part when he probably wasn’t. 🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻 See plenty of Millwall v Leeds with him involved. I don’t see it going that well for him at West H##. Esp with Moyes.