Gran Turismo 7 Multiplayer Is Actually Fun Now

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Super GT

Super GT

Жыл бұрын

I've been enjoying these recent daily races. Here's some of the best parts of this weeks daily race A.
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Пікірлер: 376
@Dalpidar
@Dalpidar Жыл бұрын
“There’s three things you can be sure of in life: death, taxes and supergt finishing in p6” truer words have never been spoken
@benjackson6260
@benjackson6260 Жыл бұрын
I would like to add "Steve speaking so fast, that he fumbles" to that list... Almost every video it happens... Just kidding, he sounds better with that flurry of words just mixing together, to sometimes form sentences... 😉😅
@ThePokestopPapi
@ThePokestopPapi Жыл бұрын
Prophet
@pauldzim
@pauldzim Жыл бұрын
Not enough p6 finishes in this one though, disappointing
@jrpark1945
@jrpark1945 Жыл бұрын
“If you add two halves together you make a whole” - Super GT 2022 Once again Super GT is a true inspiration
@ThePokestopPapi
@ThePokestopPapi Жыл бұрын
A formidable Scholar indeed
@p3falien233
@p3falien233 Жыл бұрын
i was still recovering from the positive thing is not positive if you do not like it mindbanger from the start..... too much nolidge D:
@eSKAone-
@eSKAone- Жыл бұрын
Two halfs of a black hole make a whole black hole 💟
@clancyturner1545
@clancyturner1545 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know Alex albon went to oxford
@Kungfujoe1110
@Kungfujoe1110 Жыл бұрын
We all love a good debate about stuff like "The five greatest racing drivers of all time", but it's always a bit frustrating because, obviously, Super GT is the sixth greatest racing driver of all time.
@JasonDrums24
@JasonDrums24 Жыл бұрын
Sixthfff*
@stratis722
@stratis722 Жыл бұрын
@@JasonDrums24 sicthfff
@1ST3N
@1ST3N Жыл бұрын
The Sixthfff Man Award goes to Budget Alex Albon
@iamdragonize5815
@iamdragonize5815 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a story of a protagonist trying to beat those five bosses
@tedioussugar384
@tedioussugar384 Жыл бұрын
No doubt that Barry R is number one tho.
@jude_the_apostle
@jude_the_apostle Жыл бұрын
Some say Lanky Longjohns is the only man Scott Chegg truly fears.
@Super_GT
@Super_GT Жыл бұрын
Luckily they're divided by the Atlantic Ocean
@ethanpeel5415
@ethanpeel5415 Жыл бұрын
@@Super_GT not for long I’m sure
@NiederDrifts
@NiederDrifts Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t believe I actually got to race you! Awesome experience man! My heart was POUNDING the whole time😂 maybe next time I’ll stay in front longer than 2 laps
@benjackson6260
@benjackson6260 Жыл бұрын
Yeah when SUPER GT is even IN the race, u get extra 10 heartbeats per minute... But also extra 10% of fun and awesome driving lessons...
@humblebun639
@humblebun639 Жыл бұрын
It's termed the SUPER GT pressure, if you look it up in a medical dictionary you are sure to find it.
@benjackson6260
@benjackson6260 Жыл бұрын
@@humblebun639 And just below that is SUPER RELIEVED... It's a term that refers to the feeling that u get when u see SUPER GT behind making a mistake and the gap opening up... Its most commonly seen in the final laps of a race...
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Жыл бұрын
Nieder 👋😁❤
@NiederDrifts
@NiederDrifts Жыл бұрын
@@benjackson6260 haha yuh!
@brandonneider8023
@brandonneider8023 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the quick maths, I was always struggling on what two half's equal.
@Dr.Hoffman
@Dr.Hoffman Жыл бұрын
Man's not hot 🤣
@Super_GT
@Super_GT Жыл бұрын
No problem mate, I got you covered. You'll never fail a maths exam if you watch my videos.
@mcgunga8291
@mcgunga8291 Жыл бұрын
*halves, maybe you could learn some English too!
@mcgunga8291
@mcgunga8291 Жыл бұрын
*halves, maybe you could learn some English too!
@oConshien
@oConshien Жыл бұрын
I do love watching you slowly improve in qualifying laps. Vicariously satisfying.
@Gooner333333333
@Gooner333333333 Жыл бұрын
I know most people don't like it but I enjoy watching quick laps
@matteorigattieri5386
@matteorigattieri5386 Жыл бұрын
Hey Super GT I am the Colin McRae rally driver on the Subaru! I couldn’t believe I was racing against you ahah! Now I believe.
@EXRDaBeasta
@EXRDaBeasta Жыл бұрын
Following a ghost who is faster than you is absolutely a fantastic way to improve your times. That's how I would leaderboard chase on Forza to be able to get top 10's or better. Being able to see what someone is doing better than you and learning from it is ideal for improvement.
@ThePokestopPapi
@ThePokestopPapi Жыл бұрын
💯
@RowdyGT
@RowdyGT Жыл бұрын
Based with that Herbie livery
@derimeri21
@derimeri21 Жыл бұрын
Don't you mean Goated? :D
@lucwijngaard8413
@lucwijngaard8413 Жыл бұрын
@@derimeri21 I think based is just fine
@staircarcass2035
@staircarcass2035 Жыл бұрын
Made me laugh out loud, preciate it man
@PhantomPhaze
@PhantomPhaze Жыл бұрын
based on what?
@dannypistilli4864
@dannypistilli4864 Жыл бұрын
Herbie was my Jam!!
@theconduit21
@theconduit21 Жыл бұрын
“When you take two halves together, you get a whole.” And that’s your daily math lesson with SuperGT.
@shmusty
@shmusty Жыл бұрын
SuperGT: *Approaches P6* SuperGT: *Mentions it* My insides: *rupturing from laughter*
@kalbossmand8046
@kalbossmand8046 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I love your channel especially your karting videos. I’ve learned a lot from watching them. P.s your humour is great
@6spdkeg
@6spdkeg Жыл бұрын
The amount of people that cowardly try to run you off the road in the straights after they choke a corner and you don't is astounding. I hope they start giving penalties for unforced straight-line side to side contact.
@KayJblue
@KayJblue Жыл бұрын
I believe people think they are Max Verstappen 😅
@NiederDrifts
@NiederDrifts Жыл бұрын
Haha if only this was just in streamer lobbies
@CarloPlaya
@CarloPlaya Жыл бұрын
American driving standards vs European driving standards
@NiederDrifts
@NiederDrifts Жыл бұрын
@@CarloPlaya lol facts. I need to get an EU account eventually
@h3llr4iser1
@h3llr4iser1 Жыл бұрын
Eh, in my view it's already incredible this is a game where it is actually POSSIBLE to join a random lobby and race without there being constant barging, divebombing and putting people in the wall. Been gaming since the 1980s and this is the first racing game I've experienced where it is actually playable in multiplayer (that includes the arcade cabinets...people raced dirty even when the could actually be punched in the face for it 🤣). To be honest I still don't understand how they achieved it...ok, the "safety rating" and penalties, but usually there are always people able to quite literally "drive around" these. I wish other racing game makers would implement something similar (cough * Codemasters * cough...)
@Grundibular
@Grundibular Жыл бұрын
Still a lot of players just using the car in front as “extra braking” into corners.
@humblebun639
@humblebun639 Жыл бұрын
That's how the best players do it! It requires a lot of discipline and hard work to master.
@KayJblue
@KayJblue Жыл бұрын
I will admit I accidentally did it to a guy. It’s difficult at Barcelona because I feel some people brake really early and some brake a bit late.
@bbbbbbb51
@bbbbbbb51 Жыл бұрын
Typically means you're braking early
@mickeyd8768
@mickeyd8768 Жыл бұрын
@@bbbbbbb51 or the horrid rubber banding in Oceania lobbies
@godsson7779
@godsson7779 Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct about qualifying laps helping you learn the track. That's how I learned them, and that's the key, learning the tracks, I think that's even more important than learning the car that you're in.
@josephjoestar995
@josephjoestar995 Жыл бұрын
*Ends someone's race* Steve: there was a bit of contact 🤭
@hippyllamas
@hippyllamas Жыл бұрын
I’ve been binge watching all your GT7 videos, love the content!
@jacobshaver9270
@jacobshaver9270 Жыл бұрын
I like that M&M livery, I’ve been rocking that one since I got the beetle 😆
@aircraftpro7041
@aircraftpro7041 Жыл бұрын
Interesting they added some nascar liveries into gt7 it seems
@barusuuu
@barusuuu Жыл бұрын
at 15:41 that is called the fujiwara zone, gotta drive the mountain passes for years to master 😂
@vegardulven9515
@vegardulven9515 Жыл бұрын
Nani tf?!
@benjackson6260
@benjackson6260 Жыл бұрын
I think the longer Steve puts his time in smooth laps, the more starts to fumble his words... Haahaa... But I love it still... Shows that he's so absorbed in the drama that he can't form cohesive sentences... Awesome races SuperGT!!!...
@gadgetbuster69
@gadgetbuster69 Жыл бұрын
You should give the cycled production beta on FMS7 a shot. Some of the drivers are really good and the racing has gotten a lot cleaner since they took it off marketplace.
@Andrewlang90
@Andrewlang90 Жыл бұрын
That commercial was too well timed to be a coincidence. Right as Super GT highlighted finishing 6th in the first race, that Vrbo commercial came up with Kermit singing “I’m right where I belong!!”
@bbbbbbb51
@bbbbbbb51 Жыл бұрын
Find ads annoying instead of entertaining.
@mogwix
@mogwix Жыл бұрын
scott chegg forcing them defensive and making the overtakes on the corner exit. absolutely legendary stuff.
@2Guys1ControllerShow
@2Guys1ControllerShow Жыл бұрын
Love watching your vids. It's stellar to see someone whom races as clean as possible!
@TheHoodGuru
@TheHoodGuru Жыл бұрын
This game is so good. To think that it has the real driving experience and the graphics on top. you can get lost in the graphics being so clear while you are focused on the racing.
@timothyoswald8618
@timothyoswald8618 Жыл бұрын
I haven't been doing much online racing, but the group 3 at Watkins Glen and group 4 at Interlagos were pretty fun, even in my mediocre ranked lobbies!
@alltidvanlu7888
@alltidvanlu7888 Жыл бұрын
Honestly gt7 has to get the start formations in order. Ridiculous how far apart every one is
@arkeys74
@arkeys74 Жыл бұрын
As long as the ghost is offset by a couple of tenths it is very useful. In fact so useful that it is important to remember also to practice without a ghost after setting a good quali lap 😃
@Super_GT
@Super_GT Жыл бұрын
Yeah, both very good points. The ghost is good to achieve the better laptime but as you say, it's also worth practicing without it too.
@only-legitness
@only-legitness Жыл бұрын
i feel likes this is one of your best videos recently. great vid!
@saullopez6942
@saullopez6942 Жыл бұрын
Your obvious sarcastic commentary is utterly brilliant. Especially your skills of obviousness: “ a half second plus a plus another have second penalty equals a one second penalty “ 🤣🤣🤣
@bossappacalips3969
@bossappacalips3969 Жыл бұрын
Hey honest question I've been starting to race in gt7 and I run no assist is that good or bad or any advice on getting better with racing online and ps love your video keep up the amazing videos
@danscott5776
@danscott5776 Жыл бұрын
Great driving, great racing and so educational, Steve you really are the definition of a top racer with wealth of knowledge of maths comparable to the legend of Carol voderman 😉👌😁
@loyisodzingwa4833
@loyisodzingwa4833 Жыл бұрын
Could've taken the lead on the first corner of that final lap. Anyway great video mate 👍🏾
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised to see you behind the wheel of the M6 again after being lumbered with it in the Manufacturers not so long ago, made it work though, 👏👏. Let it be known that Scott Chegg is 🔥 and has no chill, 😂 Like deployed 👍 😎🎙🏎✅
@NiederDrifts
@NiederDrifts Жыл бұрын
Ayooo you see who Scott Chegg was behind at the start of his first race😂 also good to see ya Juby!
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Жыл бұрын
@@NiederDrifts I did bro, 👏👏, I was on a Stream when Steve posted and I am a mod, so I watched in 1.5× and scarpered as soon as it was over ❤
@NiederDrifts
@NiederDrifts Жыл бұрын
@@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 hahaha yuhh!
@ThePokestopPapi
@ThePokestopPapi Жыл бұрын
Incredible scenes in Barcelona! As per usual
@Taverius
@Taverius Жыл бұрын
Barry is lonely, we need some dragon shenanigans. 😏
@MarcelNinety
@MarcelNinety Жыл бұрын
Nice video bro , keep em coming 😁❤
@vf3d
@vf3d Жыл бұрын
Great video! Love to see it.
@grkvain
@grkvain Жыл бұрын
Incredibly clean driving, Bravo 👏
@shigsisovich9893
@shigsisovich9893 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information.
@MrLaurence321
@MrLaurence321 Жыл бұрын
Lost count of how many DBZ beetle F's in the chat, I've had on your videos Steve. Glad I can feature 🤣
@Super_GT
@Super_GT Жыл бұрын
You're becoming a recurring character these days!
@cokaorcola
@cokaorcola Жыл бұрын
I love how it's been the better part of a decade and sicccfff is still the favoured position
@parthiv2013
@parthiv2013 Жыл бұрын
15:42 *fujiwara zone intensifies*
@u4f8hfsh498
@u4f8hfsh498 10 ай бұрын
That was - an expirience to watch. I am new to sim racers or racing in general. My excitement though does come party from my purchse of a steering wheel so you can not take all the credit for the provided entertainment.
@utg001
@utg001 Жыл бұрын
pretty good stuff for first time doing a race
@959porsche
@959porsche Жыл бұрын
This race has been really good for overtaking in any car
@kingofkings89pl
@kingofkings89pl Жыл бұрын
Hey, what do you think on Grid Legends now and F1 2022?
@naikjoyx4291
@naikjoyx4291 Жыл бұрын
I think your proficiency as a driver and racer is increasing. Cant wait to see you race more in irl.
@bbbbbbb51
@bbbbbbb51 Жыл бұрын
Smh my head
@addilsonfernandes6287
@addilsonfernandes6287 Жыл бұрын
Oh ...Yeah Lanky Long John. I had a run in with him too. I came out on the short end tho. He's something else.
@MrManoo123
@MrManoo123 Жыл бұрын
18:15 actually spat my foot out laughing at that comment, ur humor is too good
@LynxluresRS
@LynxluresRS Жыл бұрын
7:09 'he's all over that sausage' gachiBASS Clap
@f1-slayers903
@f1-slayers903 Жыл бұрын
Nice ghost choice hehe, good video like always
@FlashDaggerStudios
@FlashDaggerStudios Жыл бұрын
Happy to see this video title - Selfishly I know if you are having fun it means maybe more content for us 💪🍻
@Super_GT
@Super_GT Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The daily races were fairly dull for a while but they're getting better now for sure and it's easier to record when it's fun.
@ivancn6074
@ivancn6074 Жыл бұрын
i’m trying to get a Gr3 car what car would you recommend?
@grrlpurpleable
@grrlpurpleable Жыл бұрын
Great racing and commentary as ever... oh how I hate the Catalunya circuit!
@enricocarrara4695
@enricocarrara4695 Жыл бұрын
You know is going to be a good day when you see Super Gt finishing P6💪
@lizardmanstlargoinan8906
@lizardmanstlargoinan8906 Жыл бұрын
Finished 2nd in my race today here with my Peugeot VGT gr3
@kaiagain7517
@kaiagain7517 Жыл бұрын
4:18 M&M's 😂😂😂 Scott Chegg 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@romaineemanuel2914
@romaineemanuel2914 Жыл бұрын
My favorite sim racer at it again
@parthiv2013
@parthiv2013 Жыл бұрын
This madlad is out here setting the world's 30th fastest qualifying time at Catalunya like it's nothing
@adrianlawson2980
@adrianlawson2980 Жыл бұрын
Steve, do you fancy giving us some JGTC action? I’d love to see you pushing some old school cars and seeing where you can finish.
@elijahpropst5440
@elijahpropst5440 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone else have trouble with stability on this track between turns 11 and 12? Seems like there is a slight dip or something and I haven't been able to figure out how to take it smoothly
@mrmomin4606
@mrmomin4606 Жыл бұрын
i hope to one day race with ya for sure it'll be a blast.
@KaramelKing07
@KaramelKing07 Жыл бұрын
Whats the status on the FFB. I haven't played since it changed
@shftzz
@shftzz Жыл бұрын
I disgustingly cherish the sarcastic humour in these commentaries 😂
@MrSamsonait
@MrSamsonait Жыл бұрын
I have to ask. Is it how hard to play online races on standard controller/gamepad and do ok on them?
@ericfranklin4520
@ericfranklin4520 Жыл бұрын
I don’t a issue using the controller that is for sure just comes down to which experience you want
@Until_It_Is_Done
@Until_It_Is_Done Жыл бұрын
"If you can't beat them, join them!" SuperGT punting people off like a madmen in this vid... 😂😂
@ctill3108
@ctill3108 Жыл бұрын
1:15 lanky longjhons 😂😂
@diogorodrigues10
@diogorodrigues10 Жыл бұрын
is the game more friendly to casuals like myself? can i turn on the game, choose a car, and go for it?
@robdavis4951
@robdavis4951 Жыл бұрын
Reason 10 gabilliom that Steve's the GOAT: the more m and m livery on the American acct. What a G
@nzriot
@nzriot Жыл бұрын
6 is your number... on a day where you started from the back... Well done as usual.
@misterbean7328
@misterbean7328 Жыл бұрын
You should try out the Gr. 3 BMW Z4. Not exactly sure how it compares but it is one of the loudest
@Fosten12
@Fosten12 Жыл бұрын
Is dirty air in GT7 a thing? I mean, do you need to give the car behind you slipstream through corners to mess them up? Or does it make them faster still on the exit?
@AKK5I
@AKK5I Жыл бұрын
Yes it is a thing, strongest in high aero cars like Gr3, Gr2/1
@Super_GT
@Super_GT Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's definitely a thing. It only has a minot effect in Gr.3 cars but it's very noticeable in high downforce cars like Gr.1 and Super Formula.
@OhHenri
@OhHenri Жыл бұрын
I have to give respect to DieciRL at 14:15 for that kind message
@Platypus_Warrior
@Platypus_Warrior Жыл бұрын
I follow you for years on YT. While streaming you once got 500 LIKES - 0 DISLIKES. I miss your kart races. Take care
@The_BenboBaggins
@The_BenboBaggins Жыл бұрын
Quite like the M6 tbh - if PD ever fix the BoP it'll be nice to use it more often
@Nutelko8
@Nutelko8 Жыл бұрын
Dirty driving by the Porsche at the last race. Desperate for a win.
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast Жыл бұрын
More respect. I'm an iracer that watches your videos and always thought I could jump into gt7 and smoke everyone. Not the case. It takes talent I don't have... yet. It's a bit more arcadish which is fine and still fun.
@midnick2159
@midnick2159 Жыл бұрын
one of the best youtubers right here
@re_negado
@re_negado Жыл бұрын
Can't help but point out that the Civic race at The Streets of Willow Springs featured both a 1:01:111 and a 1:01:010, then 6:41 happens.
@robertverwijs2879
@robertverwijs2879 Жыл бұрын
Its allways fun bro. Gt7 is amazing i love it so much
@Zsword92
@Zsword92 Жыл бұрын
Trusty REALLY needed that win
@cup-of-t8613
@cup-of-t8613 Жыл бұрын
That was me! My heart was pounding so hard, I got nervous lmao
@Raider_1266
@Raider_1266 Жыл бұрын
Scott Chegg is awesome hope to race him somtime
@BeneM96
@BeneM96 Жыл бұрын
Thx for mentioning the Astroturf you hit... im German and didnt know the word, so i googled it and got instead a result for "astroturfing", a practice of masking the sponsors of a message or organization (e.g., political, advertising, religious or public relations) to make it appear as though it originates from and is supported by grassroots participants, meaning a regional movement of the public. (wiki definiton)
@Icouldnotthinkofanything
@Icouldnotthinkofanything Жыл бұрын
Glad I finally made the cut! Also glad that I could take P6 so you didn’t have to…
@josephjoestar995
@josephjoestar995 Жыл бұрын
The way Steve basically started bullying the American servers with the diabolical stat pad
@johnsavage5279
@johnsavage5279 Жыл бұрын
Pumped I got to race you on the Scott Chegg account. Fun stuff.
@doganayuzelturk
@doganayuzelturk Жыл бұрын
I just make myself a dinner perfect timing
@Racey.
@Racey. Жыл бұрын
I literally just finished making lunch and I saw the video as I sit down lol
@sotiris9874
@sotiris9874 Жыл бұрын
Didn't know Alex Albon was British
@IDKILLER-wd9ew
@IDKILLER-wd9ew Жыл бұрын
6:01 Just casually teaching us math whilst racing
@cup-of-t8613
@cup-of-t8613 Жыл бұрын
Yooo I’m Trusty Steed!! Apologies for the late move an honor to battle against the GOAT!
@klafsen
@klafsen Жыл бұрын
14:21 I love Scotch Egg!
@Gabo4516PR
@Gabo4516PR Жыл бұрын
Is it more consistency driving with a steering wheel?
@Super_GT
@Super_GT Жыл бұрын
Personally I would say yes but it really is down to the individual.
@leightonlambeth4899
@leightonlambeth4899 Жыл бұрын
Any tips for playing without a rig, I haven't got a spare couple of grand lying about at the moment lol.
@TheChannel1978
@TheChannel1978 Жыл бұрын
start by mounting your wheel on a cheap table or buy a wheelstand pro for 100 bucks
@leightonlambeth4899
@leightonlambeth4899 Жыл бұрын
@@TheChannel1978 thanks but in the UK and I'm including the wheel in the whole rig thing, I mean on controller 😅.
@diobrando9324
@diobrando9324 Жыл бұрын
Super gt your videos are my crack
@roymwale1967
@roymwale1967 Жыл бұрын
Just so you know your love there on the Subaru was basically at Silverstone
@hkr667
@hkr667 Жыл бұрын
Scott Speed: none of the chill, all of the chegg
@marius8436
@marius8436 Жыл бұрын
really like your Herbie livery
@lordadz1615
@lordadz1615 Жыл бұрын
The thing i hate about the online races is not everyone is on a even playing field. In sport you feel its way more fair. in here you have a bunch of people who have upgrades. So who ever played the most will just have an overall advantage.
@neomaxmlc
@neomaxmlc Жыл бұрын
Doesnt really take much to fully upgrade a car though.
@NiederDrifts
@NiederDrifts Жыл бұрын
There’s no useable upgrades in daily races
@hsanrb
@hsanrb Жыл бұрын
This daily race (A) is a BoP and while not perfect does an ok job of bringing the Gr3 cars together
@lordadz1615
@lordadz1615 Жыл бұрын
@@neomaxmlc oh yeah sure when some of them cost so much money for a simple upgrade. And the point still stands.
@anatolyviii7187
@anatolyviii7187 Жыл бұрын
I got 15 wins 2 weeks ago from a $50,000 Yaris. And the majority or races have BoP, so not really an issue in gt7
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