Grandmaster Caz: Kool Moe Dee Upped Standard for Battle Rap

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Grandmaster Caz: Kool Moe Dee Upped Standard for Battle Rap

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www.vladtv.com - n an exclusive interview with VladTV, Grandmaster Caz talks about the essence of battle rap and how he views it today.
Caz says in the early days of Hip Hop, every rapper was essentially a battle rapper. He also says the rhymes were focused on the lyrical skills versus the "man to man" complex the game has now. The pioneer says the first battle to get to that point was Kool Moe Dee and Bizzy B.
With Bizzy B being more of a "party rock" type of artist, Kool's lyrics were more personal, which changed the shift of battle rap.
Caz says the current trend of battle rappers threatening one another in battles overshadows the lyrical content fans are supposed to judge the rappers on.
Another battle that played out in that similar manner was an impromptu battle between Melle Mel and Mikey D.

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@mrb.2497 8 жыл бұрын

"...you probably COULD kill me....but you AIN'T A BETTER EMCEE THAN I AM." That's all it boils down to. Awesome statement.

@gideon3007 5 жыл бұрын

Real Talk!!!

@jlionmenelik77 5 жыл бұрын

Real talk

@tustari 4 жыл бұрын

Somebody needed to tell 50 cent that ish

@spicetbedhead 4 жыл бұрын

Good point

@khristianpeel7165 Жыл бұрын

"This about bars, it's not about rollies, it's not about cars" - Cassidy

@jayk.2608 9 жыл бұрын

Kool Moe Dee did set it off for battle rap and deserves a lot of props..A lot of rappers got better lyrically when they had to battle someone else and show their skills, back when having skills mattered lol.

@ol305stunna 9 жыл бұрын

Nobody give a fuck

@eness244 9 жыл бұрын

ol305stunna I give a fuck. People always be trying to speak for everybody.

@DefenseMode 8 жыл бұрын

+eness244 lol right

@johnrivera5517 6 жыл бұрын

ol305stunna yeah and busy bee was the 50 cent of the 80 lmao not everybody was conscience about rap fuck caz why he trying to hate on the west coast.

@shermanpegues 6 жыл бұрын

These Interviews are like the inside scoop of behind the scenes of the tapes of the glory days of Hip Hop before things were filmed and Records were recorded! Truly Classic!

@supermanthedj3305 7 жыл бұрын

I am a huge LL Cool J fan. but in the battle between LL Cool J and Kool Moe Dee. I have to say that k.m.d. won the battle.

@Charles-tt3dr 5 жыл бұрын

Not too many people share the same opinion as you & i. KMD won that battle. Hands down was a better lyricist. L.L Cool J made hotter music.

@ronnrogers9459 4 жыл бұрын

U r right

@ronnrogers9459 4 жыл бұрын

@@Charles-tt3dr LL guess basically licked his lips amrap for the approval of girls. That's all he did. Kool Moe Dee by far was a better rapper and made better music.

@Charles-tt3dr 4 жыл бұрын

@@ronnrogers9459 And he stole Tla Rock's style

@guysimmons4305 4 жыл бұрын

Superman The Dj by the time Kool Moe Dee came out as a solo artist and had problems with LL he was already past his prime. In the late 70s early 80s Moe Dee was like a rap superhero. Him Mele Mel and Caz inspired the entire next generation of rappers that came out. Ex. Rakim, Kane, and most surely LL himself.

@defmaster88 9 жыл бұрын

Kool More Dee. A lyrical genius. That's it..... The "new pop trap rapper" would never understand.

@tswagg504 9 жыл бұрын

Kool Moe Dee was vicious back then for that time....and I think he beat LL Cool J.

@MrSosa35 9 жыл бұрын

tswagg504 He did beat LL there's no doubt about that.

@Maal7432 8 жыл бұрын

He did.

@kevinkidd7211 8 жыл бұрын

I believe Kool More Dee beat LL Cool J

@kevinkidd7211 8 жыл бұрын

+octavius simplicitous I agree with you

@kevinkidd7211 7 жыл бұрын

fooloof go back and listen. he killed LL Cool J

@garyshuler7702 6 жыл бұрын

The Cold Crush Brothers are very underrated!!

@YureiZenSakura 5 жыл бұрын

I know I'm not from the 80s but I do jam to Kool Moe Dee. I started with "How Ya Like Me Now", this Album is amazing and is a true Hip-Hop masterpiece ❤

@KingMellow11 2 жыл бұрын

Respect. You did your home(boy)work. Lol.

@Mdbros1 8 жыл бұрын

The fact is that LL is good in a record battle but face to face, he know Kool Moe Dee gon to eat him alive.

@klebeau4 9 жыл бұрын

Caz got mad competitive thats was dope that made me wanna hear him spit right now

@emmettlester739 9 жыл бұрын

Hearin' him tell stories like that does do that. Dudes way too interesting.

@michaelmays1084 5 жыл бұрын

Mohundas Dewes is the greatest MC to me. I’m not talking beats or how good the production of songs are. Moe Dee is a genius MC!!!!

@acemak14721 5 жыл бұрын

“Busy was rockin the crowd...Moe Dee was rockin Busy!” 😂😂😂😂💀

@MytownZipcode Жыл бұрын

😂😂 That a classic line

@mansamusa2012 9 жыл бұрын

KRS 1 also made comments on Kool Moe D battling Bizzy B saying this is what it's all about.

@dvaughn5330 9 жыл бұрын

mansamusa2012 IT's Busy Bee not Bizzy B.

@mansamusa2012 9 жыл бұрын

Deshawn Vaughn Thanks

@seniorblanco4126 8 жыл бұрын

+D VAUGHN lol

@garyshuler7702 6 жыл бұрын

I was there in 1981!! Classic!!

@nyceefx 4 жыл бұрын

@@garyshuler7702 : HARLEM WORLD 1981, I STILL HAVE THE TAPE 👍🏾

@TheWonderfuldre 4 жыл бұрын

Yo Vlad, why don't you get Moe Dee and do an interview with him?

@joojoobaw 3 ай бұрын

Good question. It’s been damn near a decade & VladTV hasn’t been interviewing the originators much at all anymore. “Sad.” lol

@matthewbudinger2887 9 жыл бұрын

I enjoy listening to somebody like Grandmaster Caz, talk Hip Hop History. Love it 100%, keep teach the young kids on some Real Hip Hop Shit!

@jehceeeh4714 9 жыл бұрын

Narrow minds don't know true lyricism.

@user-ft2vf9lk7v 5 жыл бұрын

Lyrically I feel Kool Moe Dee eclipsed LL Cool J. Don't get me wrong LL is nice though. And his beats were nasty.

@mookeychase0907 8 жыл бұрын

Yo I was there in '88 when Mel took Mikey D's belts and bopped off with Caz. He tricked Mikey D he was suppose to be handing him the '88 champ belt since he was the '87 champ. Mel outta no where says "and now the new champ has to battle the old champ" Mel took both them sh*ts and bopped . Mikey D was like "yo who won yall think I won or he won?" Yo aaybody was like "you won,Mikey D won" yo Mel was like "well I'll take my two belts now" yo Caz handed him the belts they bopped off into the sunset with a bunch of other Bronx cats.Tom Silverman said he would replace Mikey D's belt, sh*t was funny...

@Razah. 8 жыл бұрын

Kool g rap use to battle back in 86

@mookeychase0907 8 жыл бұрын

Kool G Rap Yo what's your blood brother Ant Live doing?

@dylanmehmedovic5527 6 жыл бұрын

Microphone Fiend Shan and Silver Fox have also said that we rhymed with the more Juice Crew and pre polo, I’m guessing like 82-85ish?

@scotttravis8654 9 жыл бұрын

I lose respect for Vlad when he asks stupid shit to a legend. This is hip hop!

@johnrivera5517 6 жыл бұрын

Scott travis never heard of this legend when was he relevant.

@ericjackson7632 3 жыл бұрын

I love Caz, but Moe Dee would've got him. Still in my top 5. Kool Moe Dee vs. Caz or Melle Mel would've been 🔥 though.

@marvictrejoperez 2 жыл бұрын

Grandmaster Caz forgot 1 thing. Busy Bee was cocky asf at that time, which he did back it up because he was winning competitions. Kool Moe Dee wasn't having any of it and change the standard of battle rap forever.

@KrackDiesel 9 жыл бұрын

Love these interviews with the OG

@duronbryant9463 7 жыл бұрын

Krack Diesel true

@joojoobaw 3 ай бұрын

It’s amazing how humble Vlad used to come across in these interviews, only a few years later he became the star of the show 😂

@devantelewis6774 3 жыл бұрын

Buddy tongue flopping out the side of his mouth like billy from the grim adventures of billy and Mandy 🤣

@kielhall8363 7 жыл бұрын

Peace to the God Grandmaster Caz

@the9-2-5outlawdoestech9 5 жыл бұрын

During the NYC blackout of 77, Grandmaster Caz as known as Casanova fly, went and looted a mixer. Days later, DJ's kept turning up on every block and every corner.

@GeeMoney843 7 жыл бұрын

much respect to Caz. if u want a real deep history of hip hop check out the 360 mix show with kool moe dee. awsome history lesson . one of the best hip hop interviews ive ever heard

@90times4 6 жыл бұрын

“How ya think it feel to see another MC getting paid, for using my rap style” “I’ll take a whip and make you call yourself Toby” Moe Dee killed all competition ✊🏽✊🏽

@DonDada110478 9 жыл бұрын

If u ain't 30 or better... Don't comment.. U kno nothing about it

@MrTD714 9 жыл бұрын

True

@hohepahape8625 9 жыл бұрын

Come on b im 27 and know all about what happened then.these other young fools mite not do the research but there is a minority of us that do the research

@DonDada110478 9 жыл бұрын

***** u right.. I said 30 just giving the benefit of the doubt

@hohepahape8625 9 жыл бұрын

Don Dada fair enough brother I understand where u coming from tho

@DonDada110478 9 жыл бұрын

I'm right behind u 37

@KontryBoy706 9 жыл бұрын

I wish Smack and them would get things right. Instead of consistently trying to book an industry or legend vs another battle rapper. Why not book an industry vs industry battle or legend vs legend battle for the main event? They would make so much money Caz VS Dee LL VS Dee 2 DMX VS Ja Rule 50 VS Ja Rule Jay VS Nas (wouldn't happen in a mil years) Jada Kiss VS Beanie Sigel (unresolved issues) Method Man VS Joe Budden (unresolved issues) Kim VS Nicki (Kim would thrash her) Cassidy VS Meek etc etc etc

@WsK- 9 жыл бұрын

Nobody wanna see any of that shit

@KontryBoy706 9 жыл бұрын

KmILLz yeah because somehow, in some imaginary never-never land of a place, you magically speak for the mouths of EVERYONE.

@TheHustla412 9 жыл бұрын

Right I would watch all that shit except nicki and kim

@TheHustla412 9 жыл бұрын

And it should be 50 vs game

@KontryBoy706 9 жыл бұрын

30_30Certified another good match up!

@donaldmccall3968 3 жыл бұрын

Kool Moe Dee was furious on the mic

@theonesugafrizzle9251 9 жыл бұрын

Preach Caz. Mo Dee vs. Busy Bee was classic. Mo Dee destroyed him. Respect to both though.

@psylad8088 Жыл бұрын

Lol u can destroy anyone that doesn’t fight back. Busy bee a cool dude

@KingMellow11 8 жыл бұрын

Sorry. Kool Moe Dee killed L.L.

@tharealezg 8 жыл бұрын

+KingMellow11 FUCKIN RIGHT

@slappyslapstick4045 6 жыл бұрын

Moe Dee did smash LL, but L is absolutely NOT overrated.

@slymensah2748 5 жыл бұрын

They never battled not record sales

@lyrics2challenged 4 жыл бұрын

@Amazin On Dat Beat nope.

@djangounchained5466 4 жыл бұрын

@P. Da Punisher Moe Dee hit um with the death blow. .you must've forgot!!!!!!????

@CrookitLetta 9 жыл бұрын

Real talk. People always vote on battles based on believability, and I try to explain to them that believability has nothing to do with how good of a rapper/MC you. It's who has the best bars, not who really sells drugs and has the biggest gun. #barsovereverything

@Fettidadon 8 жыл бұрын

You hear that battle rappers!!!

@GhostraceKillah 9 жыл бұрын

7:10 That's the modern battle rap audience.

@44pachino71 8 жыл бұрын

I love these stories I can listen to these old school stories all day this is what it's about do your homework new rapper.

@emmanuelgilmore853 2 жыл бұрын

From what I hear that was a legendary battle like ARS said about Kool Moe Dee he changed the way rappers rap back then

@CapnAkira 9 жыл бұрын

Caz vs Dee! Book it!

@SuperSquishface 9 жыл бұрын

Buzy Bee was just a hype man, fool wasn't even a rapper really. Moe Dee BURIED him, it was one of the first legendary bootlegs to hear that set.

@freshboyvalentino 9 жыл бұрын

thumbnail: that look you have when you know someone is lying, but you let them dig themselves a deeper grave.

@Dank_Dank 8 жыл бұрын

please make it a meme

@vancegreen1016 6 жыл бұрын

Best interview and summary of battling! Thank you!!

@holygroove2 5 жыл бұрын

Love the history and honesty.

@01132480218 8 жыл бұрын

Real recognise real. Respect

@heatrayzvideo3007 9 жыл бұрын

Kool Moe really showed how Busy Bee (a legend in his own right) had a dated style.

@traum640 5 жыл бұрын

Caz with all due respect Mikey Dee is as real as it gets as an emcee.

@daauthorraymone832 6 жыл бұрын

this is a hip hop legend #respect

@kevinwilkins7294 2 жыл бұрын

When a legend speaks people should listen

@DefSquadFan 6 жыл бұрын

Caz game the definitive definition of a battle rapping m.c. That conversation is text book worthy.

@rowdy1197 9 жыл бұрын

True

@meechamaka411 5 жыл бұрын

MIKEY DEE was LL Cool J's old partner...

@milkywaymusic 6 жыл бұрын

Kool Moe Dee was the 1st one on film to address another rapper straight up but battle rap was a nyc thing, can he really take the credit for actually being the one who started the act of dissing a man to his face on the mic? I really don't think so!

@nyceefx 6 жыл бұрын

milkywaymusic : KOOL MOE DEE vs BUSY BEE 🐝 STARSKI happened @ HARLEM WORLD 🌎 NYC 1981 , before that NO one ☝️ had got PERSONAL on another MC back then 🤦🏿‍♂️ I’m from that ERA of HIP-HOP for I had the cassette tapes and went to some of the BATTLES during that time ⏰

@SatanDynastyKiller 9 жыл бұрын

Like Kool Moe Dee Busy Bee, that's one you should know- Beastie Boys "Root Down"

@garveyg2083 6 жыл бұрын

He beat cool j!

@guwapdcfinest5868 9 жыл бұрын

Rap battle not about who's more lyrical. I wanna see you attack the opponent

@DefSquadFan 6 жыл бұрын

VLAD that video was on point. That follow up question about Melle Mel was great. Your rumor was proven to be false but Caz's story book ended the whole conversation about battle rapping and what is really "battle rapping". What I want to know was did you know you were going to ask that question or was it off the cuff?

@MeechistheTruth 9 жыл бұрын

he spitting the truth tho. battle rap has turned into something totally different than what it used to be. not complaining cause I do rock with the shit.

@challzbrown Жыл бұрын

Caz basically robbed Mikey D of the victory because he was cool with Moe Dee. Moral of the story, always have a neutral party hold the belt

@lw3554 4 жыл бұрын

The people who actually think goodz beat Cassidy need to watch this.

@kollusion1 3 жыл бұрын

I could listen to Caz all day. Cheers.

@da1onlynickvicious 9 жыл бұрын

mukey d is my man.he deserved that belt.

@bigdore 4 жыл бұрын

I remember that battle and Mellie Mel definitely won

@Icebergs98 9 жыл бұрын

Where is Kool Moe Dee ?

@slymensah2748 5 жыл бұрын

He is a College Professor!

@ashleyallen6237 Жыл бұрын

CAZ YOU DONT WANNA SEE MOE DEE IN NO RAP BATTLE MOE WOULD ROCK YOU DUDE AS MOE SAID IN HIS RAP SONG GOTTA ROCK 50% RAPPERS ARE CLONES OF MOE DEE TRYING TO USE BIG WORDS SO THEY CAN SEEM SMARTER DEEPIN THEIR VOICES SO THEY CAN ROCK HARDER!!

@iiTzLurks 3 жыл бұрын

Is it just me or does he kinda look like beetlejuice i also thought he looked liked that lol but grandmaster caz is awesome

@overstandinggod3410 9 жыл бұрын

#Facts!

@esseen100 5 жыл бұрын

I saw a crowd rocker lyrically f*ck up an emcee who was coming at him.

@krlm2280 3 жыл бұрын

Kmd beat LL kmd was a legend

@mhks68 5 жыл бұрын

Now I know why Eminem is so respected. He’s lethal and lyrical. He can rhyme like no one else and when goes in... he go in deep!

@h.m.5724 Жыл бұрын

You really need to praise and to God not a human being. Stans are really something else

@butchsanders9537 2 жыл бұрын

KMD IS A TRUE RAP GOD

@solodolotrevino 3 жыл бұрын

So and so ☑️ Such and such ☑️ This and that ☑️

@Trudon 9 жыл бұрын

kool moe dee vs clips

@tonybravado8231 3 жыл бұрын

The one that won the battle, was the one that was left standing... LL. When he dropped Mama Said Knock You Out, it was a wrap. LL has his own style, Moe Dee has his own style. LL wouldn’t sound right saying Moe Dee’s rhymes and vice versa. LL didn’t have to make whole songs to diss you, he did it with a line or two. Just like when he dissed EPMD and Slick Rick. It took Moe Dee way more bars to get his point across than it did LL. Prime example, Jay-Z ... “I’m about a dollar, what the fu** is 50 cent”. Bottom line, every rapper ain’t gotta fire a bunch of body shots to get you, some just go straight for the head out the chamber with one or two lines.

@JayeBoogie1017 4 жыл бұрын

BOTTOM LINE --- GRANDMASTER CAZ..... IZ THAT DUDE !!!!!!

@mhks68 5 жыл бұрын

I know my Em comment is off topic. But when they start comparing them to now. I think Em would have held his own waaaaaaay back in the day.

@jayw4525 Жыл бұрын

"Hold on, Busy Bee, don't mean to be bold. But take that bah diddy bah bulls..t on hold."

@jaysundj 9 жыл бұрын

Any chance of a Kool Moe Dee interview Vlad? Need more interviews from legends, fuck these reality tv nerds and pornstars. :))))

@GeeMoney843 7 жыл бұрын

jthmastermind check out. the 360 mix show interview with moe dee. vlad would never give an interview that good. check it out.. its real good.

@DannyTheBarGod 9 жыл бұрын

bow down

@mikeblack9479 9 жыл бұрын

I don't think he understands the new age battlers.. Bc they DO battle using mc skills( punchlines, metaphors etc..) while simultaneously talking trash to each other.. So its actually a lot more difficult to do than what he's talking about..

@djwarzone1 9 жыл бұрын

I think he was talking about diss records more but it could apply to both

@CaseyStellar 9 жыл бұрын

Mike Black djwarzone1 He's saying the gun shit is unnecessary all together.

@CaseyStellar 9 жыл бұрын

KontryBoy706 Unfortunately, us heads are dying off. More and more lame cats on the rise.

@muckmire3716 6 жыл бұрын

One of the first great emcees who elevated the art of emceeing and influenced people like Kane, Puba, Rakim and others don't understand battle rappers nowadays and you do? Yeah ok.....

@terencemarriott229 3 жыл бұрын

Disrespectful Caz. Mikey D is a real as an MC as Mel or yourself. Rhyming off the top of your head is MC'ing it can't get any more real than that. Mikey D is a Queens battle rap legend and he schooled Bronx cat on that day in 88' and The great Melle Mel knows he took an L and can never say he never lost a battle. Say his name Playboy Mikey D aka Mikey Destruction

@JustinJaiC. 9 жыл бұрын

Battle rap sucks these days. They aren't rapping, it's just spoken word. And spoken word is GARBAGE.

@SuperSquishface 9 жыл бұрын

Jai Courvoisier Uh...that's how rap started, spoken word. Respect the forefathers man, come on.

@chdreturns 9 жыл бұрын

My problem is there is no freestyle and the battlers know each others raps beforehand... An old school battler would DESTROY a modern one.

@SuperSquishface 9 жыл бұрын

chdreturns It got personal back in the day too.

@ericgarner1000 8 жыл бұрын

+Jai Courvoisier It's like they lost the art of breakin.' It's all turned into violence instead. They don't break anymore, they threaten.

@Da1an0nly22 9 жыл бұрын

WHY DOES HE LOOK LIKE A SIMPSONS CHARACTAR

@jesus755serrano 7 жыл бұрын

moe dee was sick but busy bee wasn't a battle rapper

@rafalstanek5906 7 жыл бұрын

Jesus Serrano u don't even know who he is

@heruapocalypse2021 6 жыл бұрын

Jesus Serrano He was just not in the sense of like how it is today.Kool Moe Dee set the whole Battle thing off of the way it's done today.

@marquisewatts7693 8 жыл бұрын

man please moe Dee was dope but ll served him by the time ll came along moe Dee style of rap was out the window

@jrodtharealest5227 6 жыл бұрын

Marquise Watts Agreed Bro

@nellatl 6 жыл бұрын

Marquise Watts d shitted on ll lyrically.

@melvinhhcp3615 6 жыл бұрын

Moe Dee killed LL. Sorry bro

@dannytennial5311 4 жыл бұрын

LL was biting Moe Dee's style. So? how was it "out of style"?