@GRANDMASTER FLASH... IS MARIO 1 OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS OF HIPHOP?

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The Culture.. Since '71

The Culture.. Since '71

29 күн бұрын

Had a unexpected brief conversation with Grandmaster Flash

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@chuckanthanio
@chuckanthanio 24 күн бұрын
GM Flash came out with the 2nd Generation of Hip Hop. He definitely took it to a higher level. IMHO, so was Bambatta. Theodore should be properly credited with scratching and flash the quick mix. I believe Mario, Herc, and others are the original and 1st Generation of Hip Hop. The reason I claimed this is because in 75 when I was 1st introduced to this music in the Bronx, Herc and Mario were the local stars in the Bronx. There were others, but they were the one most popular during that time.
@seanwright8786
@seanwright8786 22 күн бұрын
@@chuckanthanio you are saying the EXACT THING that I'm saying. Flash likes to fudge dates and throw 1974 out there. I believe he's the 2nd generation as well (1975/ 1976). He ain't from the '71 to '74 group. That's Herc, Mario, Kool D, Smokey. I also believe Breakout is from the '75 or '76 class as well.
@ericsnow2069
@ericsnow2069 15 күн бұрын
@@seanwright8786 Is it fudging dates or just a long time ago? When is it a requirement to big up your peers contribution especially ones that weren't acknowleged as much as yourself. Just cause some people were there and lived a long life doesn't mean they were relevant then.
@ronaldgreene849
@ronaldgreene849 12 күн бұрын
They talk8ng about the beginning
@ronaldgreene849
@ronaldgreene849 12 күн бұрын
Mario I'm a young brother
@2ndEzra
@2ndEzra 27 күн бұрын
You deserve a Hip Hop Award for creating this channel.
@chrisconnors9449
@chrisconnors9449 27 күн бұрын
Yeah he really does.. his content should be put together and made into a Netflix Documentary
@akingdomservingking9311
@akingdomservingking9311 27 күн бұрын
HE ABSOLUTELY DOES!!
@DjSegwon
@DjSegwon 27 күн бұрын
Fat Mike is the reason ❤remember fat Mike 🎉
@TheBulletzgottishow20
@TheBulletzgottishow20 27 күн бұрын
Mario is the truth
@battleaxe.
@battleaxe. 27 күн бұрын
I am so happy that these Brothers are still around TO TELL THEIR OWN DAMN STORY. Blessings to you fellas!🙏🏾🙏🏾✌🏾👈🏾
@mikenyce2282
@mikenyce2282 27 күн бұрын
💯
@losfornia
@losfornia 27 күн бұрын
The more you dig deep, you see it was a Black American who taught them every single thing lol
@timharris1675
@timharris1675 27 күн бұрын
We always did
@Adam-g-uk
@Adam-g-uk 26 күн бұрын
Who taught herc to repeat the breakbeats?
@RandomFlavor
@RandomFlavor 26 күн бұрын
@@Adam-g-uk I would not be surprised if they tell you it was "Pigmeat Markham" & the "Jubilaires!"
@Adam-g-uk
@Adam-g-uk 25 күн бұрын
@@RandomFlavor who? 😂
@RandomFlavor
@RandomFlavor 25 күн бұрын
@@Adam-g-uk The new FBA cult here in America think Pigmeat Markham and the Jubilaires created Bronx Hip Hop culture.
@dreval7957
@dreval7957 27 күн бұрын
There was a battle at Monroe HS on Jan 27, 79, between Mario n Flash. I was present at this party. Mario had Busy Bee, Dr.Jekyll n Mr. Hyde and Theodore on the 1's n 2's. Flash had just, Mel, Ness n Creole that night. Bam was present. Great night of hip hop!
@bxdale83
@bxdale83 27 күн бұрын
Flash don't mention DJ Smokey and Flash used to be his record boy! He don't even mention Mean Gene and Flash started out with Gene with Theodore being right there. He doesn't mention Theodore. He doesn't mention Lovebug Starski either. There were also DJ's in RIver Park Towers that were doing their thing in the mid 70's kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r5pjp5h8lpaciaM.html. All of them were founding fathers, it wasn't just three! Flash has a agenda. It makes me wonder why he suddenly added DJ Breakout to the convo
@dreval7957
@dreval7957 27 күн бұрын
Oh so u noticed that too?
@markskillz8004
@markskillz8004 27 күн бұрын
Flash has mentioned Mean Gene in interviews, he called him "the neighborhood bully." I haven't heard anyone disagree with that statement EXCEPT for Mean Gene. I asked Disco Bee if Flash was ever Mario's record boy. Bee said no. Then he said he'd do one better he called Flash and asked him and Flash said no. There's a picture of Mario with a bunch of ppl, in the background is a dude wearing a hood on his head. Some ppl say that it's Flash. Even Bee was like Yo, that looks like him, lol. But he and Flash determined that it wasn't him because even back then Flash used wore a Kangol all the time. I asked Bee if Flash worked with Smokey, he said he doesn't recall him or them working with Smokey.
@seanwright8786
@seanwright8786 27 күн бұрын
@@bxdale83 I been reading your comments for years brother. I believe yall brothers are older than me by about 4 to 8 years(maybe older than that) Im only 53 plus Im from Brooklyn.....nothing to do with uptown. Brother, you are looking at this in a similar fashion as me. The recent conversations over the past 8 or 9 years has rocked the foundation of this Trinity concept of Bam, Herc and Flash. The injection of Disco King Mario and Kool D has forced the door to open for other names to be looked at in that '71 to '74 period. That's the key period. You add more known names to that period, then you start to navigate away from three individuals doing something miraculous. Now the prestige for only three people lessens because more names come into the conversation. Flash loves the prestige of being viewed as this awesome force to hip hop as a culture and music genre. No doubt he will always be respected and spoken of in history, however, that will diminish as other names, contributors, and innovators before him start to be mentioned.
@akaicruise
@akaicruise 27 күн бұрын
Maybe flash doesn't get along with them..its hard to give somebody props if they're your ops..im just speculating though..as far a breakout and barron they've always mentioned them from the north bronx
@bxdale83
@bxdale83 27 күн бұрын
@@markskillz8004 He doesn't mention Mean Gene as a founding father of hip hop is the point I'm making. I never heard anyone say that Flash was Mario's record boy. Well if he said that about Smokey then someone is lying
@losfornia
@losfornia 27 күн бұрын
Kool Dj Dee need more credit ✊🏾
@2ndEzra
@2ndEzra 27 күн бұрын
We need to platform the pioneers more .
@OGTKCole
@OGTKCole 27 күн бұрын
I have a funny feeling we are going to find out that Grand Master Flash got his whole style from Grand Master Flowers, which is the person he stole his name from. There is old school DJs from Brooklyn, who are saying Flowers was doing the Quick Mix in 71-72.
@markskillz8004
@markskillz8004 25 күн бұрын
@OGTKCole I've interviewed Flowers ppl at length. Flowers specialized in blending. Everyone said he was the most extraordinary and talented deejay of his era. No one said anything about quick mixing though. He was the first master of the mix on the street.
@chuckanthanio
@chuckanthanio 11 күн бұрын
@markskillz8004 As a kid from the Bronx visiting family in Brooklyn. I witnessed GM Flowers in Bed-Stuy at a block party, mixed and transition songs, while people were dancing in the street. When GM Flash quick mix, people did not dance. We watched.
@markskillz8004
@markskillz8004 11 күн бұрын
@chuckanthanio that's an excellent point brother. Flash was so revolutionary back then in New York in the 70s. It was hard to believe what he was doing
@speed1070
@speed1070 26 күн бұрын
KRS One is giving Flash credit that should go to or at least be shared with Grand Wizard Theodore.
@2paco
@2paco 24 күн бұрын
Krs always mentioned Theodore. Do you mean he diminished Theodore’s role?
@speed1070
@speed1070 24 күн бұрын
@@2paco I think that is bit more accurate.
@spotted_salamander
@spotted_salamander 27 күн бұрын
Once Kool Herc said @44:45 "I'm the Founding Father, I'm The Inventor [of Hip-Hop]" he lost ALL credibility right there. The same goes for Grandmaster Flash by publicly ignoring the existence of King Mario and Grandmaster Flowers' direct influence on him and how his name was inspired by the name of Grandmaster Flowers. Flash elevates himself as a "Father of Hip-Hop" culture, which is said to be made up of 5 elements, but nonetheless Grandmaster Flash goes on record and says “You know what bugs me, they put hip-hop with graffiti. How do they intertwine?“ These words of his are published in 2004 in the book titled "That's The Joint: The Hip-Hop Studies Reader." When you say and do the contradictory and fraudulent things Flash does you also lose complete credibility.
@pigmenttv6306
@pigmenttv6306 21 күн бұрын
It was Bambatta that condensed all of the street arts into the term Hip Hop. GF is entitled to his own opinion as a DJ. A lot of graf artists didn't deal with funky music or breakin at all and that is still true. Bambatta's Zulu Nation concept (5 elements + Peace & Unity) was his original creation.Everyone knows this.
@hectorrivera8521
@hectorrivera8521 8 күн бұрын
Graffiti is the way they wrote their lyrics. The penmanship. Also the lifestyle. Boomboxes, Graffiti all over the place. It is OUR art.
@missshannon9790
@missshannon9790 Күн бұрын
Aerosol FOREVER. I wonder how dope I woulda been if I kept up with my graffiti art.
@mauquibzonedout
@mauquibzonedout 27 күн бұрын
I want more!!!!! I been sharing every video after watching them. Great work.
@GenoBrownMuzik
@GenoBrownMuzik 27 күн бұрын
Like u said fam, flash and krs one didn’t really know Mario. Also culturally, there is a disconnect with native New Yorkers and immigrants. Natives always honor the ones before, based on bloodline and the access to the people we love. We always honor our ancestors. The immigrants separate themselves from there roots, and have a me, myself, and I attitude that still exist today. It is up to us, we already won! The more they dishonor, the more our truth comes out. Peace n luv…
@akaicruise
@akaicruise 27 күн бұрын
Very ignorant statement..shame on you
@str8alphamale
@str8alphamale 27 күн бұрын
Spot on brother. Me being black American I always honor our ancestors. I do find that black natives of America does the same. Immigrants don't because they have no connection or they always want to hijack FBA stuff and twist it as theirs. I say fu... all to those immigrants. Busta Rhymes and Fat joe showed us how alot of them think. Have you ever noticed during black History month, these teathers/immigranfs never salute black American inventors. They never wear shirs of black American Icons like Muhammed Ali or any other black Americans. They will wear a Bob Marley shirt though.
@jerryjordan2482
@jerryjordan2482 12 күн бұрын
You Do Know that Grandmaster Flash is From Barbados ! His family was Not Born Here!
@missshannon9790
@missshannon9790 Күн бұрын
​@@jerryjordan2482so?
@seanwright8786
@seanwright8786 27 күн бұрын
Flash doesn't mention Disco King Mario, or Kool D because his ego won't allow it. I find that Flash fudges dates a little. He makes people believe that extends back to '74. I can't see it. I think Flash's timeline starts at '75/'76. That takes him out of the timeline of Kool D, Disco King Mario, Smokey and Kool Herc. The truth has been coming out in degrees.
@Adam-g-uk
@Adam-g-uk 26 күн бұрын
Flash said he took what herc was doing and leveled it up! Herc or flash aint saying they was the first djs, herc is documented by many (including legends in the scene) as being the first to repeat the breakbeats, there was loads of djs before herc and mario ect but looping the breaks is what changed the game for all music genre's and djing in general...
@ev8318
@ev8318 23 күн бұрын
Mario was alive when Flash started and never went against what Flash claimed he had done.
@seanwright8786
@seanwright8786 23 күн бұрын
@@ev8318 Forgive me for not clarifying when I said Flash was out of their timeline. What U should've said was when Mario was playing with Kool D(before he took on the name Disco King), Flash wasnt out there yet. That's what I meant by using the words "out of the timeline". The dates kind of of point out that Kool D, Disco King Mario, and Kool Herc were doing their thing a solid 3 or 4 years before Flash got out to doing his thing. However, he innovated a change in DJ'ing that was never done before and made an indelible mark. It jumped him uo their on to the level of DJ's thar were his seniors in the game
@ev8318
@ev8318 23 күн бұрын
@@seanwright8786 Which was? ''he innovated a change in DJ'ing that was never done before''
@seanwright8786
@seanwright8786 23 күн бұрын
@@ev8318 what he called the quick mix theory. The ability to continuously pick up on the same stop/start point and not have gap in the flow of the music
@themightyhebrew777
@themightyhebrew777 12 күн бұрын
SHALOM TO THE CULTURE. THIS THE MIGHTY HEBREW. MUCH HONOR.
@TheCulture..Since1971
@TheCulture..Since1971 11 күн бұрын
@themightyhebrew777... Shalom
@seankardi7848
@seankardi7848 27 күн бұрын
I think this makes u a hip hop historian no doubt
@bxdale83
@bxdale83 27 күн бұрын
24:25 Flash timeline has too many inaccuracies. He has a history of pushing his timeline back. He said before he started DJ'ing in 1972. I.e. In his book he said he met Tiny (Marion Frampton) from the Black Spades/Casanovas in 1975 when he threw a jam in Mott Haven Projects and that's when he got cool with the Casanovas but Tiny (in his words) was locked up from 1974-1976
@seanwright8786
@seanwright8786 27 күн бұрын
I find Flash has selective memory or he embellishes. Notice he said all these places that he's gonna speak at.......that means honorariums(money). To add the people to the timeline of pre-'73 pushes him out of being the pioneer that he's been propagated to be. If anything he winds up being a witness to the pioneers.
@Ehiphop7
@Ehiphop7 27 күн бұрын
We are getting old. Dates can be forgotten.
@PaulPaid
@PaulPaid 27 күн бұрын
​@@Ehiphop7😂🤣😅
@makiba9461
@makiba9461 27 күн бұрын
The Caribbeans are telling lies about creation. Flash is getting away with it too. He going on tour to lie
@omardavis1622
@omardavis1622 27 күн бұрын
@bxdale83 see if you can find out when he threw parties in Mitchell , well that park by the school, near the highway. Also, he said and showed, how he learned on Fox near 163rd. And how he did jams in Forest. 161 & Tinton.
@RenniefosterRF
@RenniefosterRF 27 күн бұрын
God Bless You. Great channel, I really appreciate it. Respect from Vancouver Canada.
@blackhistoryofrocknroll
@blackhistoryofrocknroll 22 күн бұрын
Thnx for your videos much needed. Peace and blesSings to u man 🙏🏾☦️🕊🦋
@beatmages
@beatmages 27 күн бұрын
Give thanks for this 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@hiphophistorian5476
@hiphophistorian5476 27 күн бұрын
Flash actually shouts out Mario as a pioneer of HipHop on the "East Side" in his memoir: The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash: My Life, My Beats Hardcover - June 10, 2008
@FBA4LIFE
@FBA4LIFE 27 күн бұрын
KRS BUM" Is A Lying Snake" He Invalidates Portions of this Video" Respectfully"
@djrichgroove18
@djrichgroove18 26 күн бұрын
Damn this is a like a soap opera, so interesting to hear the real peeps who lived these great moments , much respect to the Bronx community and your channel, this information is pure Gold, respect ✊
@Bb99bb99kb
@Bb99bb99kb 27 күн бұрын
Flash, bam, and herc have lived in the lies for so long that the dodge the truth now days
@im_avg_joe
@im_avg_joe 13 күн бұрын
Can you please have a discussion with Kurtis Blow? I heard Kurtis say on two separate occasions that 1971 is when Hip Hop started. I'm sure he has some information on the history of this movement
@45651121
@45651121 27 күн бұрын
That song to be real.. was a breakbeat that all The hip Hop DJ's using in all the five boroughs of New York..😊
@kirktheprofessorfindley2499
@kirktheprofessorfindley2499 25 күн бұрын
Grand Master Flash did give props to Mario it was a VH1 hip hop honors and I can help you get the clip of it. It was about over 10 years ago.
@kooldjphase
@kooldjphase 23 күн бұрын
I would love to see the footage!
@TheHiphopgems
@TheHiphopgems 27 күн бұрын
Peace to Disco King Mario
@lflash204
@lflash204 27 күн бұрын
cant trust these tethers....flash bam and herc scared to talk
@SHAUL-YIRAH-MAAMIN.
@SHAUL-YIRAH-MAAMIN. 25 күн бұрын
Salute to you all for getting the story correct.
@damiananderson6141
@damiananderson6141 24 күн бұрын
Rest in peace fat mike bronxdale legend
@LargeDude2023
@LargeDude2023 4 күн бұрын
I agree in principle with this vid. Party people and dancing is what I saw before I heard dudes scratching. Dudes would be grooving and then go off when you heard the breaks on "Give it Up And Turn It Loose", "It's Just Begun" etc.
@RBOONE57
@RBOONE57 27 күн бұрын
One of my favorite channels
@starseed11369
@starseed11369 26 күн бұрын
Magnificent Channel I'm sharing this content shout out to Tariq and my Israelite family
@TRUTHTEACHER2007
@TRUTHTEACHER2007 19 күн бұрын
My opinion, there's many founders, but not all of them gained notoriety. And of them who were doing the thing before 79, they're part of the foundation. So I would say Mario deserves to get his credit for what he did. It's simple.
@iziahwhite1883
@iziahwhite1883 22 күн бұрын
Pete Dj Jones was Grand Master Flash's influence when it came to the Quick Mix Theory. He was around Pete Dj Jones alot.
@RandomFlavor
@RandomFlavor 25 күн бұрын
Why did you take down the Blackjack video with Mr. Malcolm giving props to Puerto Ricans "Louie the Clown," "Pepe," and the whole 70's Watson Ave family? Is it because, I pointed out the fact that his mention goes against the southern fba narrative that Puerto Ricans were not on the Hip Hop scene from the jump? New York Puerto Ricans are Down by Law, and will always be. I would not be surprised if you put the video back up without Mr. Malcolm's mention...
@TheCulture..Since1971
@TheCulture..Since1971 24 күн бұрын
@random flavour.. we didn't take no video down... what are you talking about?
@RandomFlavor
@RandomFlavor 24 күн бұрын
@@TheCulture..Since1971 The one with you interviewing "Blackjack" in front of 123.
@TheCulture..Since1971
@TheCulture..Since1971 23 күн бұрын
@random flavor... smh what are you talking about? the video of blackjack in front of 123 speaking about Reggie Malcolm is here at 1:53:17 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l5ySdqZh3beRgnk.html
@firsteyebeats2617
@firsteyebeats2617 20 күн бұрын
@@RandomFlavorYALL SHOULD’VE JUST KEPT YOUR MOUTHS CLOSED! YOU BROUGHT IT ON YOURSELVES! YOU COULD HAVE STAYED IN THE BACKGROUND AND PLAYED YOUR ROLE, INSTEAD YOU WANTED TO DISRESPECT THE GODZ, AND NOW WE GOT TO PUNISH YOU!
@sendawulakajubi2991
@sendawulakajubi2991 25 күн бұрын
6:26 Dancin’ Doug?! He’s a Legend
@ashtonmarrero7932
@ashtonmarrero7932 27 күн бұрын
this is very powerful and incremental information is needed for the world of the evolution of hip-hop!
@kareemsmith7962
@kareemsmith7962 27 күн бұрын
This is my favorite history channel
@Lovely-ff7uv
@Lovely-ff7uv 27 күн бұрын
Hit the 'Like' button while your watching! Do it NOW!
@user-ke5vw5rp1r
@user-ke5vw5rp1r 24 күн бұрын
There needs to be more discussion about Smokey and the Smokatrons.
@missshannon9790
@missshannon9790 Күн бұрын
Yea cauz the only Smokey I know is from Friday. If this Smokey and his cigarettes or smokathons, whatever you called em, is part of the origin of hip-hop I wanna know about him too! Respect to EVERYONE who started Our culture.
@Black_unity597
@Black_unity597 27 күн бұрын
Krs and that temple of hip hop needs to be taken down and not supported the truth is not there and Herc is not the founding father of anything I also want to know who
@Black_unity597
@Black_unity597 27 күн бұрын
Who was at that party haven’t heard nobody say they were there!
@rob77793eleven
@rob77793eleven 27 күн бұрын
Abraham, Issac, jacob and yahweh deity being the creator of all is a Canaanite fairytale..in the words of Public Enemy "Don't believe the hype"❗
@SeanBLo1
@SeanBLo1 19 күн бұрын
Much Love to you, KING!!! Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob is the TRUE GOD!!! And I’m a 80’s generation B-Boy: Chilly Freeze!!!
@rickjason1786
@rickjason1786 18 күн бұрын
What does this have to do with religion.
@houseofnicoleb.5360
@houseofnicoleb.5360 25 күн бұрын
Finally I'm glad that you broke down "God" only thing CHRIST was a black man prophesied in the old testament that HE would come through the seed of David which is why Joseph was able to enter into the house of David when they reached Bethlehem. Joseph was of the lineage of King David therefore CHRIST is King and Savior far greater than a mere Prophet!!! "Judah" aka Negros/ Black Americans were the Kings in Biblical records. Genesis 49:8 [8]Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee." This is why we are great & hated @ the same time. Would love to speak with you! @ 14:42 this was an Elder @ my church Elder Gabar @ GOCC❤❤
@ronaldgreene849
@ronaldgreene849 12 күн бұрын
Fire music soul music good vibes
@ronaldgreene849
@ronaldgreene849 12 күн бұрын
Listen when real people are talking
@MightyAntbx
@MightyAntbx 27 күн бұрын
Thank You
@GwopSullivan
@GwopSullivan 24 күн бұрын
According to Green Eyed Geenie He's the one responsible for Mario even having DJ equiptment.
@jsanders9975
@jsanders9975 17 күн бұрын
Either way he was playing in the park 2yrs before Herc. Herc was in the crowd watching him
@begood8591
@begood8591 26 күн бұрын
I saw Flash spin on 4 turntables while drinking 4 forties at the Disco Fever--Dam that was impressive Peace em up
@Dmaccabees
@Dmaccabees 27 күн бұрын
🔥💯🔥
@makiba9461
@makiba9461 27 күн бұрын
That man said that he was going on a tour to tell the history. If he is leaving Mario out and repeating the he, Herc and Bambara are the founding fathers then he is telling lies as well as colonizing. STOP INVITING PEOPLE TO THE COOKOUT.
@deeel5692
@deeel5692 27 күн бұрын
The Nation of Gods & Earths 5% is BLACK American. It is fully and completely from us. It is not Islamic or Arab or Hebrew or Caucasoid. It is an Amazing original BLACK indigenous creation from North America. And I'm not even in the belief system. I'm just Proud as a BLACK Man.
@PaulPaid
@PaulPaid 27 күн бұрын
5%ers say they believe in the "science" of Islam though and beleve much of what muslims belueve so it is indeed rooted in arab religion even if your remix their doctrine.
@SunFromBrooklyn73
@SunFromBrooklyn73 27 күн бұрын
Peace brother. The Father came out of the mosque-Nation of Islam Temple #7 and took the Supreme Wisdom Lessons of Master Fard Muhammad with him. There is Islamic theology in the Lessons.
@timharris1675
@timharris1675 27 күн бұрын
​@@SunFromBrooklyn73We created the remix
@deeel5692
@deeel5692 27 күн бұрын
@@SunFromBrooklyn73 5% is unlike anything I have ever seen. It came out of the Father .
@deeel5692
@deeel5692 27 күн бұрын
@@SunFromBrooklyn73 Peace to you Brother. I am not saying 5% does not have influences from others, everything created does. I am saying that it came out of the Father and the Father came out of America and 5% is NOT Islam or NOI. It is wholly unique and American. It is Free of all oppressive forces. No Arab. No White Man. It is from the Soil of America. FBA must celebrate that. Those who say we have no Culture are just jealous because we have so much.
@deeel5692
@deeel5692 27 күн бұрын
Flash allowed Nu Wave Whites into Hip Hop. Nu Wave White kids broke away from Punk Rock because of its racism and Misogyny and they embraced Hip Hop they didn't stop doing Nu Wave but they loved Hip Hop. Flash was an innovator but his main impact was that he was a a savant. His talent was on a whole other level. He was INCREDIBLE.
@user-mj5ih5vn7o
@user-mj5ih5vn7o 25 күн бұрын
Disco King Mario
@RandomFlavor
@RandomFlavor 27 күн бұрын
It's surreal & sad that 70's un-filtered Bronx Hip Hop culture initially united races & ethnicities, wherein after having passed through so many different hands -- it now is doing the complete opposite. If "Sylvia" would have never believed in "Big Bank Hank," "Master Gee," and "Wonder Mike" -- Rapping would have been just another passing fad, having died out in 1981. I was at all of "Disco King Mario's" Jams in Rosedale Park. His Jams were always F.R.E.S.H, but he did not have the turntable skills that were defining the Hip Hop sound at the time. It was Puerto Rican "Tex DJ Hollywood" that made Disco King Mario's Jams an authentic Hip Hop Jam. Disco King Mario was a real cool dude, and a fixture in the community, but he was not the DJ caliber required of the burgeoning Bronx Hip Hop culture exploding before his eyes. I have fond memories of the jams in Rosedale Park, and sad memories of what ultimately became of Disco King Mario in the early 90's... R.I.P
@terrell4102
@terrell4102 25 күн бұрын
@@RandomFlavor only you're saying that. DJ Disc King Mario is still the first DJ. And if it wasn't for Mario who is a Black American, no one would know who Tex was.
@RandomFlavor
@RandomFlavor 25 күн бұрын
@@terrell4102 Before Mario got to The Bronx from North Carolina, the culture was already in effect. He is most definitely not the first DJ of Hop Hop. I was born in Soundview, and know the real deal.
@omardavis1622
@omardavis1622 27 күн бұрын
I could see why he mixed soul with Disco, being that Philly Soul for the most part, is the genesis to Disco, before Donna Summer. But that still, kinda puts him, talking Flash as somebody who started in the mid 70s. Where he might went from B-Boy straight to DJ. Most likely in '76. I think '75 , he was still in transition.
@SeenHeard
@SeenHeard 27 күн бұрын
Disco King Mario is on many flyers along with DJ D, Flash, Love Bug, and Bam. Take your thumb off the scale.
@ChamP10nk1ng
@ChamP10nk1ng 25 күн бұрын
Ok so what I have gathered is. Yes #1. The utter creation of what became into "Hip Hop" was black, black, & black. #2. The Afro-Carribeans shortly after came in, spiced it up, & made it BETTER & marketable 👍 yvw. 😊
@brooklynmedina7676
@brooklynmedina7676 25 күн бұрын
When has Black American ever not been the spice? That’s hilarious. We created all great American music forms from country to present day and you think we needed West Indian & Latino influences to “spice things up” and make our music - that has always gone global - global? Yeah ok. 🙄 it’s the audacity of this suggestion that’s insulting.
@ChamP10nk1ng
@ChamP10nk1ng 25 күн бұрын
@@brooklynmedina7676 Hip Hop is 5 elements (not only rap) Black heads in NY ALIENATED the b-boying element back in 77. (Cali heads did it til gangsta rap took over) Let alone the beat-boxing cyphers, graf crews, turntablists. The Boricuas enhanced b-boying & made it marketable. Eventually it went global in the 90's. Asians then went to DOMINATE b-boying contests. Wh1+es, Latinos, even Chicanos hold down the graffiti element til this day. Wh1+e kids are the ones winning all the beatboxing contests since the 90s. If this culture is black, then why are the Asians creating the dope fashion? (Bape, LRG, Nike factories in China? Let alone Supreme or Champion?) Why do black kids dress in wh1+e Skater apparel for over 2 decades now? Why do they wear wh1+e influenced clothing like Gucci, LV, Versace, & Polo? 😂 It's an & has always been an urban collaborative effort. Think about that next time you say hip hop is a black culture, when 75% of the consumers are wh1+e. 😂
@missshannon9790
@missshannon9790 Күн бұрын
​@@brooklynmedina7676I had liked his comment. Then I read yours. I took my like BACK! You right. We the Queens and Kings, Originators of EVERYTHING.
@danya144
@danya144 22 күн бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@ronaldgreene849
@ronaldgreene849 12 күн бұрын
Dam young people need to learn
@shawnborton9523
@shawnborton9523 12 күн бұрын
I really want to see them old masters do the snake at a party or jam. 😂
@williecolon69
@williecolon69 16 күн бұрын
I like the talk with Dancin Doug (Douglas Colón) 🇩🇴 half Latino
@missshannon9790
@missshannon9790 Күн бұрын
ALL Black.
@2ndEzra
@2ndEzra 27 күн бұрын
I think Flash was saying Mario was a Hip Hop DJ
@jympayzoff
@jympayzoff 27 күн бұрын
I SEEN THAT FOOTAGE ITS FACTS HE DID MENTION HIM
@AAA.O
@AAA.O 21 күн бұрын
Where can I watch your Jojo interview?
@TheCulture..Since1971
@TheCulture..Since1971 21 күн бұрын
@AAA.O... jojo video is on our page.. here is the link kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b7KFmsecttrbZXk.html
@user-rv8wb1nl1b
@user-rv8wb1nl1b 27 күн бұрын
Mean Gene Theodore . . why he not getting upped !!!!!
@losfornia
@losfornia 27 күн бұрын
Didn't Flash play on Kool Dee (who had it first) crossfader ? Yet krs1 gives him the credit for creating it lol
@akingdomservingking9311
@akingdomservingking9311 27 күн бұрын
Hallelujah Praise The Most High God Yahweh/Jehovah!! Bless you and Thank you my Brother for taking the time to acknowledge One and True God Yahweh (God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob), that I also acknowledge, follow and serve. I also believe that we are the Descendants of the biblical and true Jews/ Israelites. I also believe the Bible is about us, was written for us and is about OUR TRUE CULTURE. I ALSO BELIEVE OUR ANCESTORS THAT CAME INTO THIS COUNTRY BY WAY OF SHIP WE'RE OF THE 12 TRIBE ISRAEL AS WRITTEN IN DEUTERONOMY CHAPTER 28. WE ARE NOT THE GENTILES. The Kingdom I'm referring to in my name is the Kingdom of Yeshua Hamashia bka Jesus Christ and His Father Yahweh. There is a GREAT Gospel/Hebrew Hip Hop Artist known as Eshon Burgundy that has a true calling and anointing for making music that teaches the truth about who we are the people and following the Gospel of Yeshua and living for Yahweh. LOOK UP HIS SONG THIRTY THREE THE JOHNNY P CADDY REMIX, THEN FOLLOW HIS MUSIC FROM THERE. Shalom P.S. THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY ANOTHER EXCELLENT BODY OF WORK BRO!!! SALUTE AND GOD BLESS YOU FOR BEING SO PASSIONATE WITH COMMITTED TO FINDING ALL THE FACTS AND TRUTH SURROUNDING THE ORIGIN AND TRUE PIONEERS OF HIP HOP. SALUTE KING✊🏾🙏🏾💪🏾☝🏾✡️👑
@robintaylor4809
@robintaylor4809 25 күн бұрын
Always wondering if he didn’t have the fury at five would he had got the fame that he got because his MC is what took him far and then showmanship
@AlleKat
@AlleKat 23 күн бұрын
From what I know flash never lost a battle.He was the man in the late 1970s,he earned his rep.
@missshannon9790
@missshannon9790 Күн бұрын
How is there so much discrepancy? Seem like so called 'grand master flash' is just a straight LIAR. Him and krs-NOT-the-one.
@pavavision4695
@pavavision4695 26 күн бұрын
2:20 Breaking is a dance created by Bronx ♠️ Spades in the 70s when Rocking is a dance created by Brooklyn 🇵🇷 Puerto Rocks in the mid 60s from Boogaloo Musix. 🎶💯 Black Spades wasnt the Only Gang in NYC ... there were 100s... Ghetto Brothers had a Rock Band & started doing Latin Rock in the Parks & Streets of the Bronx 💯 while in Brooklyn they was mixing Spanish and English musix in the 70s...They All was using Disco turn tables...All the DJs...So hip hop took the Turn Tables from Disco 💯 the Puerto Rocks DJs in Bklyn then started Mixing Spanish & Reggae in the 80s...its cool 2 know what was happening in the Bronx but what about the other Boros ?? Queens had they Style & so did Harlem....why you think a BBoy crew have a Name like... Rock Steady ?? ...I thought they were BREAKERS 😀😅🤣 When in Brooklyn All the Dance Crew never use the term Breaking...in Bklyn it was always Rocking 💯 thats when hip hop historians messed up....Bronx stay Biting from BKLYN aka Planet Rock... The Birth Place of Legends 🎶💯🎶
@missshannon9790
@missshannon9790 Күн бұрын
You really broke it down....hope it's all FACTS.
@akaicruise
@akaicruise 27 күн бұрын
The comment section is wild..so many different theories and opinions..i need a break from all this
@FRANKEDiNO-mj2jm
@FRANKEDiNO-mj2jm 27 күн бұрын
I think I can help with these questions….. what year did Mario and them first go to throogs neck projects and what years did Flash live on Dewey in throogs neck ( FRANKIE DINO)..:..:..
@nicholasmosley5754
@nicholasmosley5754 27 күн бұрын
THE JAMZ
@BLOCKLORDNYC
@BLOCKLORDNYC 25 күн бұрын
One min they say one thing next min they say another thing contradictions
@akaicruise
@akaicruise 27 күн бұрын
38:15 bam had the jamaica barbados bboy letters sweater..so he didn't hide his roots like fba claims...interesting
@dnyce8224
@dnyce8224 27 күн бұрын
A lot of Black Americans had shirts like that to support the diaspora. Also, to me, the different roots are welcomed. It’s just sad to see people take credit away from Black Americans to give credit to other countries when everyone was indulging in Black American culture.
@str8alphamale
@str8alphamale 27 күн бұрын
​@@dnyce8224Black Americans make and the world takes and undermines.
@omardavis1622
@omardavis1622 27 күн бұрын
They gotta stick to a certain narrative. 😢 ​@@dnyce8224
@alstone5005
@alstone5005 15 күн бұрын
Can’t stand to hear KRS talk history. Too many lies from the same voice
@DrDerrickColon
@DrDerrickColon 26 күн бұрын
Did flash tell you he was 67 this year. The internet has him being 66 now.
@DrDerrickColon
@DrDerrickColon 26 күн бұрын
I’m not saying you’re lying. I believe that you spoke to him. Just trying to get his age correct. If he is 67 now, and he did the quick mix theory at 15 then he was born in 57.
@TheCulture..Since1971
@TheCulture..Since1971 26 күн бұрын
yes.on march 8th ...he said he was 67 ..
@DrDerrickColon
@DrDerrickColon 26 күн бұрын
@@TheCulture..Since1971 ok because the internet says he is 66 right now.
@deeel5692
@deeel5692 27 күн бұрын
Please tell me a tradition more anti African/Anti Black than The Passover Celebration?
@kashanteche
@kashanteche 25 күн бұрын
Y you'se no DJ Hollywood?
@gheewhiz
@gheewhiz 25 күн бұрын
I'm so over the gatekeepers who have a stronghold over the hip hop history narrative. Then when you get into what some of these creeps have done in their personal lives, it gets real disturbing. 🙁
@amar1254
@amar1254 27 күн бұрын
This may be off topic a bit, but where do Mother Earth fit into Hip-Hop? She is never in any of these conversations.
@robintaylor4809
@robintaylor4809 25 күн бұрын
Oh, he’s going to keep it as a Caribbean creation oh, that’s because microphone check came out the dis prove it
@9desires
@9desires 18 күн бұрын
Ok guitar players used this method with their strings
@johnmind1706
@johnmind1706 27 күн бұрын
It's On Record Of Flash Saying Herc Was First And If King Trixie Says It Was Winter Why Can't It Be Before The 73" Party. Fact Is Kool Dj Dee Was Before Mario And Ya'll All Quiet As A Mouse About It.
@bxdale83
@bxdale83 27 күн бұрын
They said in the video that Kool Dee was the 1st with professional DJ set and by his admission he started in 73. What the ppl close to Mario are saying is he was already DJ'ing in 71 in the carriage room in his building but with basic equipment. It has already been stated on this channel years ago that Mario borrowed Kool Dee's equipment before he got his own
@antskaljurand3091
@antskaljurand3091 24 күн бұрын
Good video but if you did not repeat things it would be better.
@daddykane3420
@daddykane3420 25 күн бұрын
I know this is off topic but I'm i the only one who thinks Mario looks like Teddy Riley lol
@briandowling6663
@briandowling6663 25 күн бұрын
He is
@LARAKKA
@LARAKKA 25 күн бұрын
1969. 1west Also: Flash been making up shit all these years, cuz he got gassed by you know who
@HYIPCODES
@HYIPCODES 24 күн бұрын
@ The Culture you are focusing on the word "DISCO" too much , disco is just a named that was used because we didn't call it rap or hip-hop back then , we just called it a "JAM". They're going to throw a Jam at such and such park or were you at the Jam last night" That's what we called it, we just took the disco title and some people added it to their names that doesn't mean that they were actually playing at a real discotech
@xavierrandall
@xavierrandall 27 күн бұрын
This shit is getting ugly. Very interesting though.✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾
@ronpaizley9349
@ronpaizley9349 26 күн бұрын
@@xavierrandall but these online experts out of towners are trying to re write the whole movement and never been to nyc nor the bx a day in thier lives 🤷🏾‍♂️i'm black n proud / I'm totally down for clearling up the MIS INFORMATION & LETS.PULL RECIEPT AFTER RECIEPT lets get the unsung thier flowers n props but all this new.haterads and divisive ness is ridiculous ( only jamaica I've been to ever was jamaica queens for family events and chill weekends ) and its clear half of these experts would have NOT been down nor are built for this real HIPHOP A BX TALE !!! but unique n strange & quite revealing times indeed // yes we all want the culture back / butt .??? FOR AND FROM .
@hiphophistorian5476
@hiphophistorian5476 27 күн бұрын
The problem is many people don't have the proper knowledge on what DIsco music was and how Disco culture gave birth to HipHop: 1) So-called "Disco" music is nothing more than R&B in the macro sense and "Funk" and Soul" music in the micro sense. What the HipHOp community keeps referring to as "Breaks/breakbeats" IS EXACTLY THE SAME MUSIC that was played in "Discos." Go look up the playlists of what people like Grandmaster Flowers, Nicky Siano, David Mancuso, Francis Grasso etc.. were playing. HipHop's fav breaks will be included 2) Within the music that came to be known as "Disco" which was really just R&B in the macro sense but Soul and Funk in the micro sense, there was a strand that became popular with "Hustle" dancers, and that type is what came to be described as the 4 on the floor with hissing hi-hats aka Philly Soul which is more like orchestral Soul/Funk. The other type of "Disco" was more "Raw" and was more like Funk in its raw state w/o the strings. That type could be more like James Brown, Earth Wind and Fire, Kool and the Gang, New Birth etc... .The latter type is what HipHop would focus more on but EVEN that type was played in the Discos...even those "gay" Discos were rocking those joints. . . . Disco culture was around before HipHop so it influenced the people in it. Before "HipHop" actually was named, it would have been seen as "Hood Disco" to most people. The 2 turntable setup and the Hustle dance along with the Freak, should've made that obvious. The difference between what came to be HipHop and Disco culture from a musical and dance POV, was: 1) birth of the bboys (dancing on the floor) 2) rapping mcs (the reason hiphop became a genre of music distinct from disco) 3) scratching of the records (the clear and obvious distinction between disco djing and hiphop djing) . . . So many people are used to associating "Disco" with the likes of the Village People and Donna Summers, that it completely distorts what Disco really was (R&B->Soul & Funk) and how it connects to HipHop (2 turntable setup), so when they see the word "Disco" in Mario's name or "Brothers Disco" (breakout and Baron), they often think that represents what they were actually was doing.
@TheCulture..Since1971
@TheCulture..Since1971 26 күн бұрын
@hiphophistorian5476... you said "Disco culture gave birth to HipHop"...that is not true at all smh..why do you say that? smh
@hiphophistorian5476
@hiphophistorian5476 26 күн бұрын
@@TheCulture..Since1971 Let me be more clear on that: Disco culture gave birth to the MUSICAL side of HipHop as far as it relates to the DJ and the focusing on the "Breaks". The other elements though, are from outside the realm of the DJ/music.
@TheCulture..Since1971
@TheCulture..Since1971 26 күн бұрын
@hiphophistorian5476.. no that's not correct sir...thats not the truth... how are you coming to that conclusion...show your evidence... first off... what exactly is "DISCO CULTURE" to you?? do you mean lifestyle in the discotheque?? please give a short.. to the point definition of "disco culture"
@hiphophistorian5476
@hiphophistorian5476 26 күн бұрын
@@TheCulture..Since1971 Not the lifestyle of "Disco" but the music/djing/turntablism aspects of "Disco culture". The answer to the question you asked about @ around kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mNVdqreT1sCUc30.html or 26:16 about the Merry-Go-Round vs the Quick Mix, both pertain to Disco Djing influences/foundations. You know what scene where the focus on the "Break(s)" of a records was established? In the "Disco" scene. The only difference is no one was dropping to the floor like Bboys did later on HipHop. Kool Herc was basically doing crude "Disco" djing due to his lack of mixing skills, while Flash was doing "Disco" djing taken to the next level.
@markskillz8004
@markskillz8004 25 күн бұрын
@hiphophistorian5476 Flowers, Maboya, Pete Jones, The Soul Brothers and the Smith Brothers did NOT have the same playlist as Nicky Siano, David Mancuso or any of them
@Ehiphop7
@Ehiphop7 27 күн бұрын
Why you trying to make people look bad. What have hip hop come to. Leave flash alone.
@bkbrown7489
@bkbrown7489 27 күн бұрын
Flash is a liar and a snake that needs to be exposed Kool herc ,Bam and flash are frauds Black American Culture birth HipHop these three Caribbean snakes conspired to change history in their favor .
@dotdottheconnector8795
@dotdottheconnector8795 27 күн бұрын
So the truth is making people look bad? Ignorance is Bliss
@AlleKat
@AlleKat 23 күн бұрын
@@dotdottheconnector8795 Anybody that don't go along with your lies you down them.
@dotdottheconnector8795
@dotdottheconnector8795 21 күн бұрын
@@AlleKat Yall just leech and call truth lies because you cant refute them. Yall dont know nothing but what some mainstream, commercial, beast system, puppet mouth piece tells yall. Get Smart.
@gene5856
@gene5856 27 күн бұрын
ask Brothers about the at Bronx River Battle between Disco King Mario vs Kool Herc at Bronx River Center if Brother member start with the Dj start the rap game than MC came in than Brothers stop doing breakdances around late 70s , Mario Had MC Soul , Some brothers got mad at Mario he use the word Disco, Brother Hated Disco cause stole our dances the Hustle mess up dances Move up than try claim it
@robintaylor4809
@robintaylor4809 25 күн бұрын
Was DJ Breakout American
@bbgee7792
@bbgee7792 26 күн бұрын
Flash think he slick!! kmt!! he don't know all truth comes to the light? That's a deep spirited hate to refuse to give Mario his props!! never liked him!! now I know why!!
@williecolon69
@williecolon69 16 күн бұрын
Funny Nobody Mentioned TEX DJ Hollywood (Boricua) From Soundview with Mario
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