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Why did Rhodesia Declare Independence?

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Casual Historian

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@CasualHistorian
@CasualHistorian Жыл бұрын
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@Mendelmandela
@Mendelmandela 10 ай бұрын
Its time mass education of American and western citizens was initiated leading to knowledge of how rapacious economic sanctions against Zimbabwe by western powers have decimated Zimbabwe back into the economic stone age ....
@donaldwobamajr6550
@donaldwobamajr6550 Жыл бұрын
After going from a Gaddafi video to a Rhodesia video, I can only conclude that Causal Historian is determined to trigger the entire political spectrum.
@19ate4
@19ate4 Жыл бұрын
Qaddafi had sympathy for the Irish British over estimated Africans ability, adopting European and newly introduced international laws
@princeofafricaradio9042
@princeofafricaradio9042 Жыл бұрын
@@19ate4 the mistake they made was expecting us to adopt they’re ways🤷🏾‍♂️
@pieterwillembotha6719
@pieterwillembotha6719 Жыл бұрын
@@19ate4 British Parliament did everything they could do to undermine Smith's Government.
@Maximiliano896
@Maximiliano896 Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t take much to trigger white supremacists
@MrPickledede
@MrPickledede Жыл бұрын
​@@princeofafricaradio9042"their" not they're which is a contraction of "they are"
@gabrielethier2046
@gabrielethier2046 Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see that Zimbabwe manage to move past it's bad history, now everyone's a trillionaire
@WhoElseLikesPortal
@WhoElseLikesPortal Жыл бұрын
low blow gabriel…
@black10872
@black10872 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but they got their lands back. Things would not be the way that they are if the whites gave them the same education as everyone else. Separate but equal never worked.
@HaaraldEigerson1066
@HaaraldEigerson1066 Жыл бұрын
@@WhoElseLikesPortalWhy lie? The truth is so much more painful.
@Theghua1
@Theghua1 Жыл бұрын
It has not moved , u think its a jok3 right ? All u toubobs wanna do is harass us and humiliate , u thunk our continent is yours .
@1994CPK
@1994CPK Жыл бұрын
blacks truly are the greatest in all aspects of economics, politics, and sound rational decision making.
@markgel9510
@markgel9510 Жыл бұрын
Oh boy get ready for the comments
@jtgd
@jtgd Жыл бұрын
Either anti colonial or white nationalist. Rare if neither
@adankmeme651
@adankmeme651 Жыл бұрын
Dear God here come the racist rhodieboos. (Both Zimbabwe and Rhodesia suck a$$)
@donovanlocust1106
@donovanlocust1106 Жыл бұрын
It's fine to piss off Nazis.
@unternehmen_wacht_am_rhein
@unternehmen_wacht_am_rhein Жыл бұрын
@@jtgdI’ll be your token white nationalist
@yansideabacoa6257
@yansideabacoa6257 Жыл бұрын
@@jtgd should add colonial settlerist in there
@arunavio
@arunavio Жыл бұрын
They gave Rhodesia to the hands of Mugabe who took it to the ruins .. if they had still gone with Ian Smith post transition , Zimbabwe would have on a growth path unmatched in the southern hemisphere .
@jahnkaplank8626
@jahnkaplank8626 12 күн бұрын
and they did the same thing in South Africa... the ANC has ruined it.
@glendodds3824
@glendodds3824 Жыл бұрын
Ian Smith and Robert Mugabe both went to universities in South Africa because at the time there was no university in Southern Rhodesia.
@MegrelMamba
@MegrelMamba Жыл бұрын
Mugabe had university education?! The more you know...
@anelemlambo497
@anelemlambo497 Жыл бұрын
@@MegrelMamba Robert Mugabe was quite well educated with an MSc and LLM among other qualifications.
@kennethdzengedza8978
@kennethdzengedza8978 Жыл бұрын
​@@MegrelMambaumm have you heard him talking ? He was well educated with several degrees
@l-kin3480
@l-kin3480 7 ай бұрын
​@@MegrelMambahe got three degrees while in prison. His education probably equaled someone like Jacob Rees Mogg
@l-kin3480
@l-kin3480 7 ай бұрын
​@@MegrelMambahe got three degrees while in prison. His education probably equaled someone like Jacob Rees Mogg
@shinrapresident7010
@shinrapresident7010 9 ай бұрын
I am Rhodesian and was born in '79. My family are beekeepers, tended to farms and owned a meadery. My father had a Master's degree in entomology while I have a Bachelor's degree in the same field. My father introduced beekeeping to the local cotton farms and demonstrated that not only did quantity increase but quality along with it. My father then made mead(honeywine) with his harvests(which is always shared with the farm owners) and exported it to South Africa. Now the government is spending $3.5 billion USD to bring us farmers back. I am my father's heir, so I was offered $6.5 million USD and 83 acres of land to return and teach apiculture.
@SNOK1986
@SNOK1986 8 ай бұрын
My cousin was offered something as well but not as extravagant as yours. My cousin was offered land for free where he could farm. However whatever profit he made 10% was to be given to the land owner. The land owner was given the farm as most were and neglected it so bad it was unrecognizable. They used the land for cattle, it was a desert. It is now a profitable farm. The people who live on the farm apparently do not want to learn how to farm. They have 450 hectares of land.
@rascocky6366
@rascocky6366 8 ай бұрын
$6.5 million USD plus 83 acres doesn't sound true to me!!! Maybe you must look again at the papers you have because I know the govt is bankrupt so where does it get all that money. Neither have I heard of it in the news or as rumours!! I know of good and capable Black farmers who have gone bust because of lack of funds to run the farms. The problem is caused by the fact that those Blacks who were "given" the farm neither have title deeds nor leases which makes it impossible for them to get bank loans to finance their initial investments.
@shinrapresident7010
@shinrapresident7010 4 ай бұрын
@LittleDolfie No, it is much too dangerous.
@jamesforrester6941
@jamesforrester6941 3 ай бұрын
That's a lie
@shinrapresident7010
@shinrapresident7010 3 ай бұрын
@@jamesforrester6941 You can look it up yourself. The Zimbabwe government is offering billions of dollars for us farmers to return.
@Star_Lion_33
@Star_Lion_33 Жыл бұрын
Speaking as a white Zimbabwean of British stock, I congratulate you on how well and accurate your video was presented. Unfortunately, it was a sad piece of history that we all wish we could have done better. Rhodesia was one of the best run and successful nations in Earth's history with a great leader and government, a successful economy and good, kind people of both British ( as well as other Europeans ) and Africans. However, our government was too strict on the racial policy. While I believe the Western powers had a negative agenda on controlling our country's resources, we should have integrated Africans into our government with equal freedoms sooner, thus preventing the Bush War. All we need now is forgiveness, compassion for both our sides, peace, friendship and loving-kindness. The past is long dead. We need to move forward and work together to build a new, better country out of the ashes.
@ferwallace1903
@ferwallace1903 Жыл бұрын
Such powerful words. I feel the same. I love Zimbabwe and I love the memories. I love the people and I will always cherish this country in my heart.
@Star_Lion_33
@Star_Lion_33 Жыл бұрын
@@ferwallace1903 🙌🏻🙏🏻👍🏻😊💚🕊💯
@MattieK09
@MattieK09 Жыл бұрын
Powerful words? Are you kidding you British ruin everything you touch.
@wnathanielw
@wnathanielw 11 ай бұрын
The fact of the matter is that you can't live around a population with an average IQ of 70. That's why Rhodesia and South Africa have failed, not because of their "racial policy". Things only got much much worse after they dropped the apartheid policies.
@OmarAli-jv1qh
@OmarAli-jv1qh 10 ай бұрын
@@wnathanielw No your just being racist lmao and supporting an apartheid government.
@camloff
@camloff Жыл бұрын
In Portuguese colonial Mozambique we appreciated very much important rich products and very good meat South Rhodesians produced and exported to us. Now it is Zimbabwe and it is kaput ...
@Jkejhjklmg1485
@Jkejhjklmg1485 3 ай бұрын
Well when you build a system like Portugal and the uk did in Southern Africa, did you really think anything good would come? Thats why Portugal was the last in line for everything in Western Europe, had the highest illiteracy in the western world into the 1970s. Should’ve invested more into Portugal and not Africa 😅
@conorcane1211
@conorcane1211 Ай бұрын
@@Jkejhjklmg1485the portuguese were dealing with a dictatorship the same way the people of mozambique were, in 1970 Portugal had the same literacy rate that Mozambique has in 2024 lol, (70/80%). stop acting like this dude made decisions 💀
@brothacaim
@brothacaim 2 күн бұрын
Portuguese should've invested in Portugal,and not stealing resources in África
@ianhall3822
@ianhall3822 Жыл бұрын
Why did Rhodesia declare independence". Because South Africa's Prime Minister Hendrik Verwoerd advised Ian Smith to settle with Britain, but South Africa would support Ian Smith if he declared independence. Verwoerd himself was slain by one of the servants the next year in 1966.
@stephan6372
@stephan6372 2 ай бұрын
He was killed by a Greek national Chafetas in Parliament. Chafetas was a steward in the African parliament.
@chrisbrown8640
@chrisbrown8640 22 күн бұрын
Verwoerd himself was supposed to make a major Policy Speech to the rest of the world on the very afternoon that he was killed....nobody will ever know what he was going to say because that speech kinda 'blew away in the wind'.........................conveniently ???
@loopwithers
@loopwithers Жыл бұрын
A big salute to you for including contemporary published quotes. This hugely adds to contextualising and revealing the thinking behind hugely wrong headed political and business decisions.
@Soliloquy084
@Soliloquy084 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, when I recorded that Garfield Todd quote I was somewhat sick, so I sound awful. I now regret not finding time to redo it.
@Mr.InbetweenFX
@Mr.InbetweenFX Жыл бұрын
You did fine! Couldn't even hear it, wouldn't have known had I not read this.
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was acting for more effort lol
@seeingimages
@seeingimages 7 күн бұрын
The people of Zimbabwe would have been better off if they had lived under Rhodesian rule. 👍👏
@FireOccator
@FireOccator 4 күн бұрын
How is slavery in concentration camps better compared to Zimbabwe?
@RCSVirginia
@RCSVirginia Жыл бұрын
Zimbabwe is winning! In Hanke's Annual Misery Index for 2023, it came in number one as the country in which the people are the most miserable. It bested some strong competition from Venezuela, Syria, Lebanon and Sudan.
@peterburns-ub8hp
@peterburns-ub8hp Жыл бұрын
They have that tyrant mugabe to thank for that, once he and his party took back control from whites ( rightly so in reality) he just destroyed every aspect of the country from its economy to its infrastructure, stole all of its wealth while the people starved, he handed control of once white run farms to his cohorts who couldnt run a tap ...and the 'breadbasket of africa' is once again...destitute, bankrupt and completely ruined...just like south africa etc etc....why ???....
@Ivan-vk2mn
@Ivan-vk2mn Жыл бұрын
British life is no better
@chloeew4627
@chloeew4627 Жыл бұрын
So true, dah don’t dance much anymore .
@ayodejiolowokere1076
@ayodejiolowokere1076 Жыл бұрын
It's so amusing how upset some people are at a white supremacist state collapsing.
@Ms.Fowlbwahhh
@Ms.Fowlbwahhh 10 ай бұрын
@@ayodejiolowokere1076we’re not upset with Rhodesia not existing anymore. We’re upset at the fact that wimpy ass Europeans decided to give away entire countries to communist racists who were more racist than the Whites in Rhodesia. And now Zimbabwe is one of the most racist places on Earth. All because Europe allowed it to happen.
@SNOK1986
@SNOK1986 8 ай бұрын
I must commend you on your video it was well edited and accurate. Loved your narration. Just to add myself I am from Zimbabwe and of British heritage. No longer live in Zimbabwe as most white Zimbabweans these days. We are all scattered across the world soon to be forgotten about in a generation or two. No hard feelings its just life. I will have to say Ian Smith had a great idea of wanting to gradually integrate blacks into society once their education was up to par, quote from him "I would like to see a evolution and not a revolution". For a very long time blacks did not want schooling like whites had. They wanted their tribes and the leaders of the tribes wanted to control the tribes. Ian Smith respected that and gradually as time was moving tribes started adopting schools provided by the white man and we saw blacks starting to become more and more articulate. The start of evolution was happening as predicted. However a few radical blacks did not want whites in power at all. There was a war between the Shona and Matabele where is saw a massive genocide yes a genocide of Matabele people from Mugabe as the Matabele did not want to stand with Mugabe. This was a message to anyone who stood against Mugabe would die. Hence when elections came about where black people could vote there was such a massive imbalance in votes. People were too scared to vote against Mugabe, he continued this tactic until the day he was unable to take office and died many years later. Unfortunately revolution occurred as Ian Smith predicted would be a tragedy and the country declined rapidly. I have left out a lot but just getting that off my chest.
@ivanlarin86
@ivanlarin86 3 ай бұрын
Good evening, sir! I was born in 1986, in the USSR and lived there for more then 30 years. I left Russia in 2020, because it turned to a fascist trash bin. My beloved wife, all our four kids and me know about Rhodesia, and our grandkids would also know about this country - I shall do everything to ensure that. That struggle shall never be forgotten, the sacrifice of Ian Smith and the rest Rhodesians too. Just as the lies, hypocrisy and treachery "of certain governments". A strange feeling growing by the time passing: I'm not Rhodesian, but "no other land will do" anymore...
@alfabeech
@alfabeech 8 күн бұрын
And so goes as it goes.
@skiesboi
@skiesboi Жыл бұрын
I'm a Zimbabwean, and I'd be very happy to help you with pronunciation of our names, because it's driving me nuts: Sithole is pronounced Si-TO-le Nkomo was from the Nde-BE-le nation (I hardly recognised what you said), and there were a few others. I find this a shame as I think that you did a really good documentary about a history that I think is too often cherry-picked to shore up people's ideology. So well done for that.
@johnmoorefilm
@johnmoorefilm Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@chrisnation1432
@chrisnation1432 Жыл бұрын
My father was Rhodesian/South African and I am American. I found the video painfully American. I also found myself cringing everytime he said "South Rhodesia". It was also outrageous that he said Godfrey Huggins was the architect of "South Rhodesian apartheid" - obviously there was racial discrimination in Southern Rhodesia and in Rhodesia after UDI, but it was never apartheid. Ridiculous conflation.
@chrisnation1432
@chrisnation1432 Жыл бұрын
Also that attempt at a Rhodesian/Zimbabwean accent at 17:05 had me laughing out loud.
@MichaelScreamMachineEvans
@MichaelScreamMachineEvans Жыл бұрын
Are you kidding the oldest city in the world is Zimbabwe... The stone walls outdate the the stone construction in kemit or Nubia....
@chrisnation1432
@chrisnation1432 Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelScreamMachineEvans that's incorrect sir, but I'm also unsure who you were responding to.
@bigfungus5002
@bigfungus5002 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making such in depth videos about relatively hard to learn of or obscure moments in our recent past, Most people don't even know what Rhodesia was let alone the history of it. Your series on Lebanon was one of the greatest binges I went on for history videos, I just want to say thanks and I look forward to the quality content you've made.
@AbstractAimOfficial
@AbstractAimOfficial Жыл бұрын
Rhodesia was one of the most based countries that ever existed till it wasnt. RIP
@MFYouTube683
@MFYouTube683 Жыл бұрын
Most people do know, maybe not in the US but certainly where I live.
@bigfungus5002
@bigfungus5002 Жыл бұрын
@@MFKZfaq683 I'm speaking as an American; we barely teach our own history let alone world history.
@johntaplin3126
@johntaplin3126 11 ай бұрын
It would be quite easy to swap the names and events from Rhodesia to the United States in this video. The War of Independence was America's UDI.The white settlers there did the same or worse to obtain native lands, and even lands from their southern neighbours, and even tried it on with Canada. The Reservations were their equivalent to Homelands. The main difference is always a matter of numbers in the end. The lesson perhaps is that every group, tribe, nation whatever gas to look out for its own interests - nobody else gives a damn.31:51
@waynegrant6585
@waynegrant6585 3 ай бұрын
This is History that the "1st world" doesn't want anyone to know. Said "1st world" were as insane then as they very obviously are now. Back then they hid it well, but Rhodesia knew they were insane, so they had to destroy us in a way that suited their narrative.
@mosheyisraeli6871
@mosheyisraeli6871 Жыл бұрын
As a black Rhodesian/Zimbwean myself, I believe you made a very good documentary of what happened. However, portraying it as a racial issue is unfair and incorrect. Ian Smith was not a racist, nor was his government. The issues were resources, land and elevating the African onto the world platform. He was much more progressive than the British were and he wanted to develop a multiracial society through evolution, not revolution. Unfortunately, he was sideswiped by the Civil Rights movement in the US which forced the world into looking at everything as a racial issue. Ian Smith had set out to correct the mistakes of the British but there had to be a context and pretext. They vilified him for it. African Nationalism was cooked up in the cocktail parties and academic institutions of Eastern Europe. It was nothing more than Marxism with a black face, the Africans bought it and Africa is still suffering from it to this day. The people who did not want to see Ian Smith succeed are the same who do not want to see Africa progress to this day. Africa is very rich but the people are amongst the poorest, by design. Ian Smith saw this long ago and was bent on developing a boutique African country that could succeed. I am surprised they didn't kill him.
@marjorjorietillman856
@marjorjorietillman856 Жыл бұрын
Don’t blame the Civil Rights movement in America for whatever your country went through. We fought for rights we deserved and needed, and God blessed us, and there was nothing Communist about our movement. And ALL of what Dr. king did was nonviolent and patterned after Jesus. A few Whites were also tired of seeing innocent Blacks lynched and beaten for no reason, and they marched with us. I’ve never heard anyone with an ounce of sense blame the nonviolent Civil Rights movement for anything in Africa, except maybe some very racist people or an extremely ignorant Black Rhodesian person like you. Stop your lies against Dr King to uplift your beloved White leader, who wanted nothing to do with Blacks like you! I’m sure you can still find somewhere in the world that has an all-white government to tell you what to do!
@dariusx4829
@dariusx4829 Жыл бұрын
Excellent comment 💯👌🏾🔥
@miki7894
@miki7894 Жыл бұрын
Now this is the comment I was looking for. Thank you giving such an honest account
@blank3746
@blank3746 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic comment
@marjorjorietillman856
@marjorjorietillman856 11 ай бұрын
You all are welcome!! That guy’s ignorance is staggering!
@kevanhubbard9673
@kevanhubbard9673 Жыл бұрын
I went there when it was still Rhodesia in 1973.We were flying with South African Airways London to Johannesburg and the plane,a Boeing 747, refueled in Las Palmas and then Salisbury, Rhodesia.SAA couldn't fly over most African countries so went down the coast to what was then South West Africa and cut inland.The name Rhodesia lives on in the dog, the Rhodesian Ridgeback which is sort of like a Great Dane type dog.
@tigershoot
@tigershoot Жыл бұрын
Yes it's a famed breed. Very courageous.
@KumarNikhils
@KumarNikhils Жыл бұрын
So when half of world protested South African apartheid and banned south africa. You chose to support that regime by flying by its airlines. Or may be you did not care.
@tigershoot
@tigershoot Жыл бұрын
@@KumarNikhils African airlines flew into South Africa and there were plenty of African countries doing a roaring trade with SA. The number of black African countries in the region with a thriving democracy was zero. Who was protesting that most Africans in black Africa had no vote? Nobody.
@yannick245
@yannick245 Жыл бұрын
​@@tigershoot Our _(German)_ companies loved the financial climate in South Africa. Volkswagen and Mercedes-Benz had huge automobile plants in South Africa, were they manufactured their right-steered cars. Dozens of German companies had their African seat in South Africa, because of it's halfway politically stable and financially stable environment. It was also the by far most developed place in sub-saharan Africa. Most of the sanctions and trade embargos were only about military goods/weapons. This is why to this day, SA has the largest defense industry in Africa. All Western countries made big business in SA. Even fast food companies like Kentucky Fried Chicken, which can be found all over the country. But also tech companies like IBM or GE, all had their African headquarters in South Africa. The sanctions didn't affect them at all! If you were White and skilled, it was probably the best country to live on earth.
@frogfinance4605
@frogfinance4605 Жыл бұрын
@@KumarNikhils there is it, the person who listens to main stream media talking points
@Hochspitz
@Hochspitz Жыл бұрын
What was not touched on in this video is just how complicated the tribal system was. There were four main tribes, the Shona being by far the largest in population and covering the largest land area and from which Mugabe hailed. The second most powerful were the Matabele (Ndebele) of whom Nkomo was their leader, lived in the surrounding territory of Bulawayo, Rhodesia's 2nd largest city. All 4 major tribes spoke different languages which also caused certain barriers and their history, before white settlement was not, dare I say, based on "Love thy neighbour." Mzilikazi, a Zulu warrior commander much revered in Shaka's army took his forces north after shafting Shaka for whatever reason. (Most likely stealing cattle). He didn't under estimate Shaka's wrath and thus employed a total scorched earth policy in his wake so that Shaka could not follow him and exact retribution. Upon arriving in Bulawayo, Mzilikazi found a very placid, peaceful Shona people, slaughtered them all and founded his new seat of power, Matabeleland. For a long time he waged war against the Shona, stealing their villages and livestock and expanding his sphere of influence. It is true that British colonial rule wherever they went around the world, just like other countries in Europe, used and abused the native peoples but to be fair to Rhodes, he did put a halt to Matabele incursions and broker an uneasy peace between the the tribes So it not surprising that Nkomo (who considered himself a direct descendant of Mzilikazi whether true or not) was ever going to ally with Mugabe and why Nkomo chose Soviet Union whilst Mugabe chose China, two mega powers that weren't friends either and both of which also had their eyes set on Africa as Great Britain, Belgium, France and Portugal were being forced out. Ian Smith might have been a naive politician but I do believe he tried to be the best statesman he could be for the country that was considered the bread basket of Africa. It is also worth noting that one of the first things Mugabe did upon coming to power was for all intents and purposes the mass genocide of the Ndelebe people, thus ensuring no opposition for his foreseeable future.
@dalekeys7447
@dalekeys7447 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting so why doesn't anyone tell these things
@mosheyisraeli6871
@mosheyisraeli6871 Жыл бұрын
Tribalism was not an issue. The British tried to make it an issue by dividing and conquering but it cannot be identified as the cause for political complication and intrigue. Indeed ZanuPF has Zezuru and Ndebele working together. BTW, Shona is a language, not a tribe. Zezurus are the main anchor Shona speaking tribe. Karangas, Manyikas, Ungwes and Kore Kores are other Shona speaking peoples. The narrative that Mugabe killed Ndebeles wholesale is not correct. He was pre-empting a military coup that was well known at that time. Be that as it may, in post colonial African politics, everyone is committing crimes against humanity. The losers have an advantage as plaintiffs. Winners can't go around claiming that the losers were committing crimes against humanity without looking stupid. In fact, Robert Mugabe & co wanted Ian Smith tried for crimes against humanity and Ian smith was more than willing to face the charges as long as the same standard was applied to all. The initiative died!
@patthompson8591
@patthompson8591 Жыл бұрын
​@@mosheyisraeli6871 To say Thousands of innocent civilians living in rural Matabeleland in the south were involved in an uprising - is false. The thousands of peasants butchered were simple unarmed ndebele tribespeople living in African rural villages. They were massacred by the Mugabe government's specially trained (by North Korea) called *Five Brigade* . They were ruthless and indiscriminately burnt villages & murdered the indigenous people ONLY because they belonged to the Ndebele tribe (Joshua Nkomo, Mugabe's political rival's tribe) backed by the Russians. The Rhodesia/Zimbawean situation was complicated at so many levels.
@patthompson8591
@patthompson8591 Жыл бұрын
@mosheyisraeli6871 You most definitely have your head buried in the sand. There was indeed a serious tribal issue between the two main tribes The Shona & the Ndebele, why do you think Joshua Knomo *leader of the ndebeles* , escaped to UK, he feared for his life. Remember what was said at the time *Cut off the head of a snake & that's the end of it* . The voting was on tribal lines, and believe me, the ndebeles knew that they were discriminated against & tried to defend themselves against a ruthless cruel Shona Zanupf government. You must be shona & a Zanupf member wearing blinkers. Please acknowledge thIs *FACT* & move on. I lived through it all in Matabeland even though I'm neither ndebele or shona.
@user-hr6uk7mn5o
@user-hr6uk7mn5o Жыл бұрын
​@@patthompson8591no you're wrong but tribal issue began when the Europeans accosted the land and made a tribal issue due to the land and the soil being fertile and then wanting to control all aspects of products that would have been grown there and sold as Lawrence really because in the beginning there was no there was no snuffing no trading going on and they had a railroad system that they had made specifically to gain natural resources now when you have a tribal difference it is usually occurred or acquired by war or some kind of a treaty amongst the captors canes or tribal leaders the only people that created a disaster within the nation of these people were the white people that Europeans because they wanted to make it seem like they were affirm for one group of people when really they weren't affirm for anybody that was native to that country they were only affirm for their selves and that's why they kept begging more and more Europeans to come and live there they were even offering to pay their debt, so that they could somewhat outnumber the natives that live there the same thing they did in the antebellum slavery era where blacks outnumber the whites and so what they did was they started labeling other people from different countries that looked like white people such as the Italian in the Irish that were never considered human beings prior to them being outnumbered by the African-Americans and label them Europeans and label them white so that they could have an ally to form against African-Americans and this is the same thing they did in Africa the only difference is is they had a great white people to keep their Superior and their white supremacy going because these were not native countries to white people so you are wrong there, they created the white people that Europeans created a problem between the different sectors and between the different tribes okay constantly it costing them with lies and constantly trying to see who would of fluently allow them to do whatever in the weaker tribe was the tribe that they would act or pretend that they were on their side okay and it's always been that way white people have created some of the worst wars in Africa for the simplest things such as farmland or animals grazing it's ridiculous
@kaimarlaiva2891
@kaimarlaiva2891 Жыл бұрын
As an Estonian who has no stake in any of this or no history in racial inequality, but cultural one... Great video
@gabrielethier2046
@gabrielethier2046 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure the difference is as big as you think
@klown463
@klown463 Жыл бұрын
Your country will basically meet the same fate as Rhodesia within the century
@kaimarlaiva2891
@kaimarlaiva2891 Жыл бұрын
@@klown463 😱 omg... But, but how?
@jtgd
@jtgd Жыл бұрын
@@kaimarlaiva2891 he’s prolly gonna say something racist I mean he goes on and on about “minority rule bad, but says “they were minority ruled in the end….” Despite those regions currently being ruled mostly by natives. He forgot to switch codes, because he talks about minorities relating to the US, and now Estonia, but never actually explaining who is the “minority”
@anon2034
@anon2034 Жыл бұрын
@@kaimarlaiva2891 He probably meant immigration. Look at Britain today. London is NOT an English city. Birmingham and Luton will follow.
@kevinjohnson147
@kevinjohnson147 Жыл бұрын
I've met Ian Smith and spoken with him and he sounded nothing like that ! 😅 That's not even close to his accent . He was an amazing man😢.
@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 Жыл бұрын
Even Joshua Nkomo's accent was just comical.
@SawdEndymon
@SawdEndymon Жыл бұрын
Think that’s the point
@ralphsimpson5230
@ralphsimpson5230 5 ай бұрын
Rhodesia went from African "Bread Basket" under Ian Smith, to "Basket Case!" Under Mugabe.
@mrdemokrative8018
@mrdemokrative8018 Жыл бұрын
A very well made informative video of how the political landscape looked like up until Rhodesian Independence. As I have a bit of prior knowledge into the matter. This was the best video on the subject so far. Well done! New subscribe!
@Mman07311
@Mman07311 Жыл бұрын
I've been interested in this topic for years now and I have to say this is a really good and well put together video
@longandshort6639
@longandshort6639 Жыл бұрын
I was born in Southern Rhodesia in 1958. I grew up there and remember standing for the Green and White (the Rhodesian flag) after independence in 1965. We never had apartheid in Rhodesia. That was South Africa. The Rhodesian Army was mainly made up of loyal (non communist) Africans. I fought in the RLI right up to 1980.
@scottanos9981
@scottanos9981 Жыл бұрын
You're a good man. South Africa would've been lucky to have you nowadays, it's on its way out...
@joedias7946
@joedias7946 Жыл бұрын
You should go to Hertfordshire and live there and build your Rhodesia. Not in Africa.set your UDI. In the new towns.
@rascocky6366
@rascocky6366 8 ай бұрын
"... We never had apartheid in Rhodesia. ..." So what do you call a system which had signs - "Whites only" on toilets in Salisbury, in waiting rooms at train and bus stations, in schools, bars and restaurants, different entrances in the same shop, whites being served 1st, et, etc!! Which Rhodesia were you born in? Maybe you were too young to notice and it seemed NORMAL for you! It was only in the 1970s that things started to change albeit slowly!!
@The_king567
@The_king567 7 ай бұрын
Wrong yes you did have apartheid laws
@rascocky6366
@rascocky6366 7 ай бұрын
You Rhodesians deceived yourselves and continue to deceive yourselves.Do you KNOW how many Blacks knew back then about what communism was all about. BTW most Blacks in Smith's army hardly had passed their primary school education. Most of those who had higher education had been FORCED through "call-up" to join. Let me remind you of the protests by Black pupils in secondary schools ("O" Level and "A" Levels), Colleges and university who tore up and burnt call-up papers. (I was one of them)!
@CarolusR3x
@CarolusR3x 11 ай бұрын
No, the story of rhodesia begins with a land both fair and great c:
@s.wvazim6517
@s.wvazim6517 11 ай бұрын
On the 11th of November an independent state
@SymphonyBrahms
@SymphonyBrahms 9 ай бұрын
And racist.
@CarolusR3x
@CarolusR3x 9 ай бұрын
@@SymphonyBrahms whats wrong with that?
@skullingtonfx4441
@skullingtonfx4441 4 ай бұрын
​@@CarolusR3xeverything. You lost lmao
@No.00000
@No.00000 11 күн бұрын
And Zimbabwe is a decaying state​@@skullingtonfx4441
@dsullivan1988
@dsullivan1988 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos, always incredibly informative without ever being boring. Also you can see your health and fitness effort is paying dividends, looking great.
@kennethgarland4712
@kennethgarland4712 Жыл бұрын
As well as the other comments criticising the accents used for the Rhodesians, we should add the hilarious use of a Northern (Liverpudlian?) accent for the words of the ultra-posh Harold Macmillan.
@nigelnyoni8265
@nigelnyoni8265 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was Mancunian. Reminds me of Gary Neville more so than A Scousey carragherish one
@kennethgarland4712
@kennethgarland4712 Жыл бұрын
@@nigelnyoni8265 You're probably right - it didn't sound to me like a full-on Scouse accent. But I am from the Deep South West, and did my degree at York, so my assessment is likely to be flawed!
@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 Жыл бұрын
The imitation of Ian Smith's accent was ridiculous. And that of Joshua Nkomo undesirably comical.
@Zyzyx442
@Zyzyx442 Жыл бұрын
Wow Casual Historian and Old Britannia in a crossover ep? Wow hope to see more, both of you guys are a breath of fresh air on YT
@TheKalihiMan
@TheKalihiMan Жыл бұрын
Rhodesia’s declaration of independence mirrors the United States in more ways than one. It was born from a settler population that were more fanatical in their colonialism than their mother country and would take any measure to maintain what they saw was their fundamental right and even divine destiny. One of the major catalysts for the American Revolution was the proclamation of 1763 which limited settlement west of the Appalachian Mountains, which many colonists viewed as an infringement by the British government on their “right” to settle all lands from the Atlantic to the Pacific (their “Manifest Destiny”). Likewise, it seems Rhodesia’s declaration was in response to the British government infringing on their “right” to maintain a de facto racial hierarchy. Of course in both instances the British government only undertook such measures for their own benefit or to save face, as westward settler encroachments in North America brought Britain into frequent and costly conflicts with indigenous peoples, while the Wilson administration’s insistence on majority rule was likely due solely to minority rule’s growing political untenability and association with Apartheid South Africa.
@RoshanKumar-br6op
@RoshanKumar-br6op Жыл бұрын
One of the main differences between the 2 situations is that the UK didn't have a strong leader to respond to the demands of the Colonists in a way that actually addressed them instead of dismissing them entirely, while with Rhodesia, you had Harold Wilson who was much more active and participatory in the fate of the colonies than his Tory counterparts, his only difference being that he saw both Colonists the Natives on the same level as human beings, while the Colonists viewed the Natives as a lower-group and fundamentally disagreed with the change in this establishment that had, under the Tories, let them do as they wish instead of applying the same rules and principles to all they "governed" over.
@TheKalihiMan
@TheKalihiMan Жыл бұрын
@@RoshanKumar-br6op There really was no solution in either situation that would satisfy the fanaticism of the settler population other than full capitulation to their demands. The British objection to further westward expansion by the American colonists wasn’t the expansion itself, but the fact that it triggered reprisals and wars with Indians into which they were inevitably drawn in, which became increasingly expensive. The Proclamation of 1763 was intended merely to slow this for the sake of the Empire’s coffers and nothing more, but even this momentary pause in genocide was deemed unacceptable. Likewise, British opposition to minority rule in its African colonies was only due to its growing political untenability, but white Rhodesians were so intent on maintaining their racial hierarchy that they were more willing to make themselves a pariah state and wage a guerrilla war than accept even the most milquetoast compromise with their mother country.
@MattieK09
@MattieK09 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why it’s illegal to want to preserve yourself if you’re of European stock
@IceAxe1940
@IceAxe1940 Жыл бұрын
​@@MattieK09 Inbred.
@ContendCreators
@ContendCreators Жыл бұрын
​@@MattieK09then they should have went back home
@tigershoot
@tigershoot Жыл бұрын
32:40 The attempt at a Rhodesian accent is just laughable.
@TheWazzoGames
@TheWazzoGames 11 ай бұрын
Can you cover the rest of Rhodesia’s history up until it’s collapse? PLEAAASE
@jahnkaplank8626
@jahnkaplank8626 12 күн бұрын
That's going to be hard: how can you speak the truth without being labelled 'racist'?
@sirkl4272
@sirkl4272 Жыл бұрын
This both felt very sanitized in regards to the true nature of the violence the state used to maintain minority rule, yet still probably one of the most reasonably honest Rhodesia documentaries on YT. Usually it's a terrible production value holocaust snuff film, or a slickly produced complete revisionist history. I look forward to checking out some of your other videos.
@klown463
@klown463 Жыл бұрын
Minority rule is so bad, that the US has it.
@jtgd
@jtgd Жыл бұрын
@@klown463 except every adult citizen, has voting power, so it’s not “rule by a minority”
@klown463
@klown463 Жыл бұрын
@@jtgd Rhodesian blacks have the same voting power as American whites
@RoshanKumar-br6op
@RoshanKumar-br6op Жыл бұрын
@@klown463 that really isn't saying much considering how little actual input any singular sub-millionaire citizen has in the process of the US government via the electoral process nowadays
@klown463
@klown463 Жыл бұрын
@@RoshanKumar-br6op so voting doesn’t matter?
@theshirehighlander7292
@theshirehighlander7292 Жыл бұрын
Being from Nyasaland myself, this just paints a very colorful picture of how things were like. The book excerpts just whetting my appetite for which books to read. Your research is better than nothing I have ever come across. Keep on doing the great work.
@bodhinorris2735
@bodhinorris2735 Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that you don't speak English natively so the use of "your research is better than nothing I have ever come across" it means it's the worst you've ever seen. If you mean to say it's very good like it seems the correcting would be to replace the "nothing" which means no things with "anything" which means any things. I don't mean to be rude, as someone who is also learning a language I thought it'd be helpful.
@theshirehighlander7292
@theshirehighlander7292 Жыл бұрын
@@bodhinorris2735 Thanks for pointing that out. Of course I don't speak English natively...but am learning too..I think it's the primary language I use for thinking. Haha. To make such a semantic error, am ashamed of myself.
@bodhinorris2735
@bodhinorris2735 Жыл бұрын
@@theshirehighlander7292 Your English is still very good man, I'm learning German and I'm atrocious(very bad) at it myself and German is an extremely closely related language to English and is easy for us English speakers to learn comparatively(in comparison to other similar situations/things). Your English is very understandable, even if "whetting(this word specifically meaning to Sharpen a blade and is very rarely used) my appetite" is a a little archaic(meaning something very old/outdated) phrase. Good luck on your English learning and you've got reason to be proud of your progress so far.
@theshirehighlander7292
@theshirehighlander7292 Жыл бұрын
@@bodhinorris2735 haha instead of "whetting my appetite" what is the contemporary phrase I should have used? Nyasaland (Malawi) was an old protectorate of Britain and we tend to use the style of our old masters the Scottish. I suppose I have to pick up a Grammar text book and just go through it so I can polish up my English. German has got to be hard. I think they strongly pronounce the syllables. You can't speak it on an empty stomach 😂
@bodhinorris2735
@bodhinorris2735 Жыл бұрын
@@theshirehighlander7292 @theshirehighlander7292 @theshirehighlander7292 it works, it just sounds kind of odd and archaic. That might just be because of dialect differences. I'm an American who speaks in west coast(like California area) accent/vocabulary (mixed heavily with others because I moved states/countries often as a child since I grew up in the military) so I might be biased away from tendencies from the British Isles. I personally would say something "got(or "made" which would me more commonly used) me interested in". The word which there is also somewhat irregular because it's more of a question word like "what" or "where" so it's a little hard for me to tell if you meant those books specifically(which would be my guess) or books about the topic as a whole. If you mean the books the experts are from specifically I would personally say "those" and if you mean books like it as a whole I would say "books like them" or just "more"(that's more loose ended so I'd guess it'd be harder for someone to use consistently). Also in this context the to read is somewhat redundant because there isn't much else you would do with them in the context and would probably make it seem like you are not a native speaker but when learning a new language avoiding redundancies is very hard(at least for me) and there's nothing wrong with sounding like a non native speaker as long as you get the point across and only a small amount assholes would judge someone for it. Keep in mind that is me nitpicking (just looking for tiny insignificant problems that don't matter much, I think it comes from how monkeys pick bugs off each other). Trust me, I'm the lucky one in language difficulty. German is the closest major language to English and both are in the Germanic language family. The majority of common use words and grammar are mostly the same or derivative from each other or their shared parent language. They both were the same language even until a German ethno-linguistic group called the Saxons conquered England and it drifted over time, still being mostly mutually intelligible until Danish vikings who were giving land in France as a bribe conquered England afterwards and made the language more French. The English language has a weird history 😂. You're English is very good and all the things I pointed out are extremely minor. Also I might just me a little off from the specific dialect you are trying to learn so all I can give you is my input as someone with a mostly west coast dialect. Not that they can't understand each other, I and most others can almost always clearly understand even the strongest Scottish or southern(search American bible belt region and lt will probably come up but "the south" or "southern" in an American context almost only ever applies to the southeast not including the bottom 3/4 of Florida) which are generally considered the hardest for everyone else from who I've talked to. Your English is great and I wish you the best of luck dude.
@martinhumphreys4891
@martinhumphreys4891 11 ай бұрын
That was so incredibly informative. Thank you!
@lukesalazar9283
@lukesalazar9283 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this
@TheBliksempie
@TheBliksempie 2 ай бұрын
It is so funny to listen to Americans making videos about Africa! Too ignorant to realise that Africans are not just "black", but actually divided into nation which differ from each other the way Germans differ from French and these differences matter. In Rhodesia, the Shona which were led by Robert Mugabe were actually a minority and the Matabeles, led by Joshua Nkomo were the majority and actually supported the Ian Smith government in establishing a sustainable independent state. Mugabe however, sold the copper mining rights as well as diamond mining rights in exchange for foreign intervention to secure his hold on power. Trying to explain the world in terms of how Americans see it, is totally different to how the world realy is.
@iMonsieurAnthony
@iMonsieurAnthony Жыл бұрын
Proud Black Zimbabwean that supports Rhodesian Economic Models
@TheTororist
@TheTororist Жыл бұрын
your avatar is a white guy, your name is monseieur anthony and your location from your page is new zealand. nice try
@letsgetsocial384
@letsgetsocial384 10 ай бұрын
I’d put a lot of money on that ur some loser white guy from Hull
@Gallalad1
@Gallalad1 Жыл бұрын
The Rhodesian accents done did give me a chuckle I won't lie.
@SomasAcademy
@SomasAcademy Жыл бұрын
I hope that's because I accurately captured the somewhat funny-sounding accent and not because I made them sound cartoonish lmao, did my best ;P
@Gallalad1
@Gallalad1 Жыл бұрын
@@SomasAcademy oh no I'm not attacking you, it's just an interesting accent even if alot of it sounded honestly more South African than white Rhodesian. Like if you watch videos of them talk they talk weird, like a hybrid between proper formal English and South African
@SomasAcademy
@SomasAcademy Жыл бұрын
@@Gallalad1 ​ No worries, I didn't take it as an attack lol. But yeah, I listened to some videos of Rhodesians to prepare, there's a lot of variation in their accents (some sound super British and some are way more Afrikaner), so I just shot for something in that range for the Declaration of Independence, and did my best impression of Ian Smith for his lines.
@ingold1470
@ingold1470 Жыл бұрын
@@SomasAcademy One of them I watch, Five Romeo Romeo, almost sounded Indian. Made me wonder if the Indian accent is some kind of flash-frozen Victorian era English and if the Rhodies had it in common.
@SomasAcademy
@SomasAcademy Жыл бұрын
@@ingold1470 I also noticed some similarities between some Rhodesian and Indian accents, I'd guess that it's because both are hybrid accents that combine aspects from old fashioned English with non-English accents that have a few similar features, like rolled r's and aspirated t's.
@sean.butterworth
@sean.butterworth Жыл бұрын
The Unilateral Declaration of Independence was a pivotal event in British history and was to have very far-reaching repercussions. The black-governed member nations of the Commonwealth wanted Britain to intervene and take over governing Rhodesia, whereas the white-governed member nations opposed any intervention by Britain. This caused a division along racial lines within the Commonwealth and effectively scuppered any chance of it becoming an economic force that could rival those of The USA and Europe. As a result, Britain began considering membership of the European Common Market, and we all know how that turned out. By the way, Sithole is pronounced 'sit-oll-éh' not 'sith-oll'
@cretansuperbos2121
@cretansuperbos2121 Жыл бұрын
There was never any chance of a commonwealth market anyway. Britain's attempts at imperial preference were legion and so were their failures. It's interesting to me that Australia, Canada, etc, were willing to go to war on Britain's behalf but consistently refused to join any common market schemes.
@juliantheapostate8295
@juliantheapostate8295 Жыл бұрын
@@cretansuperbos2121 New Zealand had quite tight economic ties with Britain and were rightly angered when we abandoned them to join the EU
@jahnkaplank8626
@jahnkaplank8626 12 күн бұрын
Wherever the British 'colonized', pain and division followed.
@thebrotherhood227
@thebrotherhood227 Жыл бұрын
Because we are all Rhodesian’s and we’ll fight through thick and thin
@donovanlocust1106
@donovanlocust1106 Жыл бұрын
You're not Rhodesian. You're a white American
@xandercruz900
@xandercruz900 Жыл бұрын
@@donovanlocust1106 Likely born in 1995 too. LOL!
@glendodds3824
@glendodds3824 Жыл бұрын
Many Rhodesians went to Mozambique for holidays when it was Portuguese. The most popular destination was the coastal city of Beira but Paradise Island and the capital, Lourenco Marques, (further down the coast) were also popular. Moreover, a lot of South Africans also had holidays in the country. Furthermore, from late 1968 onward members of the Rhodesian security forces fought beside the Portuguese in Mozambique against communist-backed black nationalists, a state of affairs which lasted until a change of government occurred in Portugal in April 1974.
@CupRunethOver
@CupRunethOver Жыл бұрын
Everyone is happy they all got their butts kicked and sent back to Europe.
@camloff
@camloff Жыл бұрын
In Portuguese colonial Mozambique we appreciated very much important rich and very good meat South Rhodesians produced and exported to us. Now it is Zimbabwe and it is kaput ...
@user-hr6uk7mn5o
@user-hr6uk7mn5o Жыл бұрын
Rhodesian security fought side-by-side with the Portuguese and what native what nationality were they were they the native people of the country or were they the Europeans that were you know not native to the country that far I'm confused
@zeinnanla5422
@zeinnanla5422 Жыл бұрын
​@@camloff yeah Fonseca, you getting that meat in your mouth us definitely worth the entire Native population living under almost apartheid.
@missourimongoose8858
@missourimongoose8858 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately south africa is headed down the Rhodesian path these days as well
@r.w.bottorff7735
@r.w.bottorff7735 Жыл бұрын
Hey just found your channel, and wanted to say thank you for this historical analysis of a place that I have long neglected to study. 👍
@A1Kirazz
@A1Kirazz 3 ай бұрын
Funny how they never tried for all those decades… and then when the writing was on the wall they were suddenly ok with working and living with the Zimbabweans. If they had done that 30 years sooner and integrated EVERYONE into the country then Rhodesia could possibly still be a thing.
@jahnkaplank8626
@jahnkaplank8626 12 күн бұрын
Zimbabwe would still be a success story to this day if the British never set foot there, and also South Africa.
@christianbolisca1493
@christianbolisca1493 4 күн бұрын
Or at the very least, the economic heights of the 80s would continue. And Zimbabwean politicians as a whole would have higher standards of accountability.
@pixeldunevisualization7458
@pixeldunevisualization7458 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Video as usual. love your unbiased stance!
@yansideabacoa6257
@yansideabacoa6257 Жыл бұрын
why are you celebrating a lack of bias on the topic of settler colonization, genocide and white supremacy
@ominousbiscuit
@ominousbiscuit Жыл бұрын
@@yansideabacoa6257 because wearing a bias on your sleeve doesn't bring back the dead, so what's the point if not empty virtue signalling? it would be like telling the history of Genghis Khan and making sure to grandstand about how genocide and war were bad and then expecting applause or something. it'd just be kind of asinine.
@yansideabacoa6257
@yansideabacoa6257 Жыл бұрын
@@ominousbiscuit you must be white
@MattieK09
@MattieK09 Жыл бұрын
@@yansideabacoa6257completely ignorant and racist
@Deathwink1
@Deathwink1 Жыл бұрын
@@ominousbiscuit cough cough white excuses cough cough
@jeffslote9671
@jeffslote9671 Жыл бұрын
You should have broke out the short shorts for this video.
@SerialChiller1000
@SerialChiller1000 Жыл бұрын
My answer: UDI occurred because the UK insisted on immediate NIBMAR instead of independence alongside an established, mutually agreed to timetable, of perhaps 10-20 years.
@mountisa3090
@mountisa3090 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@glendodds3824
@glendodds3824 Жыл бұрын
Actually, most Rhodesians were not interested in black majority rule within 10 or 20 years. In a referendum in 1969 they voted against ever having black majority rule. Instead, they voted in favour of eventual power sharing with 50 seats in parliament for whites and 50 seats for blacks. Ian Smith's statement in 1976 that he did not believe in black majority rule ever in Rhodesia, not in a thousand years, was in line with the 1969 constitution. Moreover, in 1976 a young member of one of Rhodesia's whites-only regiments, the RLI, said that he was fighting to keep Rhodesia white: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zrliga6dsr2Uppc.html
@SerialChiller1000
@SerialChiller1000 Жыл бұрын
@glendodds3824 I agree. I have seen that video. There may not have been a timetable that Prime Minister Smith and RF leadership would agree to. I still believe that the UK government was too inflexible in its position and that inflexibility may have strengthened RF's position and allowed it to continually win support electorally.
@glendodds3824
@glendodds3824 Жыл бұрын
@@SerialChiller1000 Yes. It was unreasonable of the British Government to expect Rhodesians to accept immediate majority rule, especially as Rhodesians were well aware that Belgians had been massacred in the Belgian Congo only a few years earlier, in 1960. In my previous comment, I should have mentioned that in 1961 Rhodesians had voted in favour of moving towards eventual black rule, a position which of course changed in 1969. I suspect that some of the Rhodesians who voted in 1961did so in bad faith in the hope that Britain would agree to grant Rhodesia independence. What is certain, is that in 1962 Rhodesians voted into power a new right wing party, the Rhodesian Front (led by Winston Field) and one of the key principles of the RF was a commitment to the continuance of racial segregation.
@ayodejiolowokere1076
@ayodejiolowokere1076 Жыл бұрын
Rubbish. The Rhodesians refused to discuss a timetable. Stop making stuff up.
@Bigtimecharliepotatoes
@Bigtimecharliepotatoes Жыл бұрын
Mate that Ian smith impersonation was comical 😂. Great video keep up the good work 👍
@spacecadet7614
@spacecadet7614 Жыл бұрын
I thought he was taking the piss
@angusyates828
@angusyates828 Жыл бұрын
Garfield Todd was right.
@nigelnyoni8265
@nigelnyoni8265 Жыл бұрын
100%
@flytiger53
@flytiger53 Жыл бұрын
"Hue" in Vietnamese was pronounced "way" 50 years ago.
@tigershoot
@tigershoot Жыл бұрын
It's more like Hway. There's a sort of 'H' sound at the beginning. Great place to visit.
@curtiskretzer8898
@curtiskretzer8898 Жыл бұрын
Sancho too
@rogerwhittemore9950
@rogerwhittemore9950 Жыл бұрын
@@tigershoot even a bit more like hwhey
@jaytanatswamuzhingi971
@jaytanatswamuzhingi971 Жыл бұрын
“Ndedele” For ndebele is killing me😂😂😂
@nigelnyoni8265
@nigelnyoni8265 Жыл бұрын
Nadel😂😂😂
@famdegroot1988
@famdegroot1988 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I am white and have lived many years in Africa including Rhodesia when it was called that. You failed to mention Chief Lobengula! You failed to mention that Rhodes had tried and failed several times to gain a mining concession so he sent Moffat tosign the 'treaty of friendship' which prevented Lobengula from doing business with anybody but the British and then later there was the Rudd Concession which gave unlimited mining rights to the British - Lobengula was tricked into signing this because he had verbally only agreed to a limited concession for 10 persons. So thereafter, with the mining rights came all the other rights and effectively Lobengula's lands were ANNEXED or rather, STOLEN. You should have mentioned this in your video!
@andrewtully3622
@andrewtully3622 Жыл бұрын
In the first 3 minutes he explicitly says "I am not talking about the founding of Rhodesia". He hasn't ignored it, it's not what he's talking about
@famdegroot1988
@famdegroot1988 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewtully3622 He doesn’t say anything about not talking about the founding of Rhodesia, he says he’s not going to talk about Cecil Rhodes and then goes on to talk about him … he should have provided context!
@andrewtully3622
@andrewtully3622 Жыл бұрын
@@famdegroot1988 Eh, I'm not certain the context for how Rhodesia was founded is important for the causes of Rhodesian Independence. Foundation, definitely, but this video is not about that.
@famdegroot1988
@famdegroot1988 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewtully3622 I think you miss my point: I am looking for objective and balanced reporting. The first 1’20” covers Cecil Rhodes to the point he was put in charge of Southern Rhodesia by the Crown. There is not one mention of Lobengula nor the Rudd Concession. This concession was used as a pretext for British military action against Lobengula's forces during the First Matabele War, leading to the eventual defeat of the Ndebele kingdom. Is this not important historical information? At least he should have mentioned that Rhodes pursued a policy of "imperialism by conquest," seeking to expand British control over Southern Africa. Is that not more important and relevant than mentioning that Rhodes supported educational institutions in England???!
@andrewtully3622
@andrewtully3622 Жыл бұрын
@@famdegroot1988 It's an interesting point. I wouldn't go so far to say the foundation of Rhodesia has NOTHING to do with independence, but I do think it (and the pre British history of the area) has a very minor role when the topic is about Rhodesian independence (as opposed to Rhodesian foundation). Again, omitting the concessions and annexation aren't unfair to us viewers, simply extra information as to the focal point of the video. Hope that makes sense!
@lelandunruh7896
@lelandunruh7896 2 күн бұрын
I've never once met a black South African who openly spoke of wishing white rule would return. I've met multiple black Zimbabweans who did. That tells you all you need to know about modern Zimbabwe.
@Veritas419
@Veritas419 Жыл бұрын
Even if they had met the demands of the British government, it wouldn’t have been enough to placate the revolutionaries. The war with its inevitable outcome was unavoidable.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Жыл бұрын
Continuing to oppress the native black population sure as a hell didn’t help the Rhodesians.
@missourimongoose8858
@missourimongoose8858 Жыл бұрын
The British totally hung them out to dry
@dendradwar9464
@dendradwar9464 10 ай бұрын
Yes tend to agree with this .. lots of fault on all sides and too much fault on all sides made the war inevitable ..
@swisscheeseneutral6820
@swisscheeseneutral6820 Жыл бұрын
Commented so early nobody mentioned Mugabe is dead
@donovanlocust1106
@donovanlocust1106 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. He only died fairly recently. 😊
@RanMineKinbini
@RanMineKinbini 7 ай бұрын
The clarity here is mesmerizing.
@robertthomsen6711
@robertthomsen6711 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you. Who did Ian Smith’s voice? Sounds nothing like him…
@sullyman9494
@sullyman9494 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you gotta worry about hearing whatever you just said we never heard of this at all. I'm sure 95% of your commentators Feel the same dude but I'm not disrespectful. It's really an interesting video.
@gambianice
@gambianice Жыл бұрын
What I really do not understand about white settler colonies in the present day is why do not just acknowledge the past, deal with it rationally and move on. After all most of these policies were created about 2 centuries ago. Therefore one could say all the descendants of white people still living there did not create these policies but were born it. Hence if you still want to live in Africa you must acknowledge the trauma caused by your immigrated ancestors to indigenous africans
@andrewtully3622
@andrewtully3622 Жыл бұрын
There are no caucasian settler colonies today. Only people of various nationality of European extraction.
@MohammedAli-hl4mr
@MohammedAli-hl4mr Жыл бұрын
@@andrewtully3622 your proving his point
@jahnkaplank8626
@jahnkaplank8626 12 күн бұрын
Yes, but when does it end? Today's whites had nothing to do with it but are made the scapegoats for everything that goes wrong. That is not fair, and doesn't help either 'side'. The path to success is to let every person do what they are good at, be that commercial farming, or leading the government, but because they are white, they are kept away from doing what they are good at. As long as that continues, there will be no success for everyone.
@kambrose1549
@kambrose1549 3 күн бұрын
A really thorough explanation of this issue thanks😊
@brianeduardo1234
@brianeduardo1234 11 ай бұрын
Colonialism had so much to answer for and the British managed to create a mess where ever they were
@martino2794
@martino2794 2 ай бұрын
Including the homes, roads, schools, railways, farms, hospitals and legal system
@PeruvianPotato
@PeruvianPotato Ай бұрын
​@@martino2794Pretty sure Africa was doing fine without that.
@jahnkaplank8626
@jahnkaplank8626 12 күн бұрын
I agree. Those Brits proved the saying "no good deed goes unpunished". I think the whole world would be better off if the Brits never set foot anywhere else.
@dnedwrds
@dnedwrds Жыл бұрын
“The story of Rhodesia” as the first line in the video. You sly devil Lmao
@kaeso101
@kaeso101 Жыл бұрын
Ian Smith going for UDI against the British is perhaps one of the most Badass moves imo
@MillerVanDotTV
@MillerVanDotTV Жыл бұрын
It’s like the north of the USA. Smith was right
@deeznoots6241
@deeznoots6241 Жыл бұрын
Fuck that, its not ‘badass’ to enforce a racist Apartheid regime. Ian Smith should have fucking died in WW2 and the world would have been a better place.
@memeguyTM
@memeguyTM Жыл бұрын
All I know is that the Rhodesian Ridgeback is awesome 👍
@rumeodibo
@rumeodibo Ай бұрын
Rhodesia would have been like America today if they have endured
@sophia-helenemeesdetricht1957
@sophia-helenemeesdetricht1957 Жыл бұрын
"The biggest supporter of the natives rights, aside from the natives themselves, was the British government." ... So that's not great. That's _not_ great.
@jahnkaplank8626
@jahnkaplank8626 12 күн бұрын
The Brits: the cause of, and also the "solution" to, all Africa's problems.
@clintbeast-bud8119
@clintbeast-bud8119 8 күн бұрын
​@@jahnkaplank8626I don't think Britain caused all of Africa's issues. Especially in the last 50-75 years. People like you don't even consider French, Belgium Portugal and Italy ext
@Black_Patriot-Veteran-1970
@Black_Patriot-Veteran-1970 Жыл бұрын
As an American Black Man, I woud say that Rhodesia was definitely a better Nation under White rule. God bless Rhodesia
@Zero-hl2zy
@Zero-hl2zy Жыл бұрын
I second the motion
@BigEast302
@BigEast302 11 ай бұрын
Nope
@Black_Patriot-Veteran-1970
@Black_Patriot-Veteran-1970 11 ай бұрын
Yup @@BigEast302
@BigEast302
@BigEast302 10 ай бұрын
@@Black_Patriot-Veteran-1970 nope
@Star_Lion_33
@Star_Lion_33 Жыл бұрын
A word of warning, please look out for racist extremists in this comment section. Unfortunately, they fly to these videos and try to distort my country's true history. We as white Zimbabweans or Rhodesians do not tolerate them and their views which are extremely hateful, racist as well as offensive. They do not reflect white Zimbabweans at all, who along with black Zimbabweans are some of the kindest, most friendly people on Earth. Thank you. 🙏🏻
@DARKMUGODARK
@DARKMUGODARK Жыл бұрын
You are the definition of a true historian, G.
@aniwayamuur6767
@aniwayamuur6767 Жыл бұрын
You are the definition of a true sheeple, g.
@daveacbickford
@daveacbickford Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video mate, looking forward to the next one! I find Rhodesia 20th century to be fascinatingly odd, particularly in contrast to the happenings in the rest of the World concurrently. I'm Australian and from a historical learning perspective (especially in School) we tend to be a bit sheltered from things like, happening to another Commonwealth nation no less! Looking forward to the rest of this series 😊
@JenniferinIllinois
@JenniferinIllinois Жыл бұрын
Rhodesia? Well this won't be controversial at all. 😉 I think I'll just stay out of the comments.
@LouisWinthorpe3
@LouisWinthorpe3 Жыл бұрын
Because they're the greatest nation to have existed in the last 150 years.
@deeznoots6241
@deeznoots6241 Жыл бұрын
Lmao they barely existed, just a tiny irrelevant Apartheid state forgotten to all but the weirdest and most online racists.
@joejoe809
@joejoe809 9 ай бұрын
Great History lesson on Rhodesia.
@rwdyeriii
@rwdyeriii Жыл бұрын
The Last Word in Rhodesian R is for the regiments who fight the winning fight H is for the home fires that the folks are keeping bright O is for the other ranks and officers as well And D is for the die-hards who will even fight in hell E is for the enemy That just won't ever win S is for the spirit of our men that won't grow dim I is for the independence that we have to share And A is for the arms that we will always have to bear And the first word in Rhodesian is Rhodes That's a name that everybody knows It may be as Rhodesian as the flag of white and green But the last word in Rhodesian is IAN R is for the regiments who fight the winning fight H is for the home fires that the folks are keeping bright O is for the other ranks and officers as well And D is for the die-hards who will even fight in hell E is for the enemy That just won't ever win S is for the spirit of our men that won't grow dim I is for the independence that we have to share And A is for the arms that we will always have to bear And the first word in Rhodesian is Rhodes That's a name that everybody knows It may be as Rhodesian as the flag of white and green But the last word in Rhodesian is IAN And the first word in Rhodesian is Rhodes That's a name that everybody knows It may be as Rhodesian as the flag of white and green But the last word in Rhodesian is IAN The last word in Rhodesian is IAN.
@christianweibrecht6555
@christianweibrecht6555 Жыл бұрын
Of course all of the pro apartheid commenters are new to this channel Do yall just search for videos made about this video to copy paste your comments?
@east04k28
@east04k28 Жыл бұрын
Whoever read Ian Smith's quotes did a phenomenal job hahahaa. Perfect impression. 🫡
@makeshift_battlefield_music
@makeshift_battlefield_music Жыл бұрын
The minute it ended I said 'wait!! What happens next?!' Even though I kinda already know hahaha
@user-vz9wt3fh4l
@user-vz9wt3fh4l 8 ай бұрын
Dexter nailed the move ... What a great team,keep it up guys we love you❤
@mouhamedaminelaksiri7318
@mouhamedaminelaksiri7318 Жыл бұрын
14 years old Neo-nazis favorite country (Zimbabwe under Mugabe was bad too)
@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr
@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr Жыл бұрын
British Prime Minister Alec Douglas-Home's name is pronounced 'Hume'
@CivilWarWeekByWeek
@CivilWarWeekByWeek Жыл бұрын
Glad I could be a part
@donaldwhittaker7987
@donaldwhittaker7987 7 күн бұрын
For me very informative. Thank you.
@joshpelillo957
@joshpelillo957 Жыл бұрын
Here’s the story of Rhodesia a land both fair and great!
@puschelhornchen9484
@puschelhornchen9484 Жыл бұрын
Oh is that's why it ceased to exist?
@donovanlocust1106
@donovanlocust1106 Жыл бұрын
Unless you were Black
@martinzwaan2721
@martinzwaan2721 Жыл бұрын
… on the 11th of November, an independent state.
@donovanlocust1106
@donovanlocust1106 Жыл бұрын
@@martinzwaan2721 that doesn't exist anymore. Besides , you're not even from Africa
@martinzwaan2721
@martinzwaan2721 Жыл бұрын
@@donovanlocust1106 You're right, it doesn't exist anymore. The lines are quotes from a song.
@AndyLehrer
@AndyLehrer Жыл бұрын
FYI - Home as in Douglas Home is actually pronounced Hume.
@ianhall3822
@ianhall3822 Жыл бұрын
Zambia never had any trouble when they got independence. The problems Rhodesia had were entirely due to the attitude of the white Rhodesians, and their worship of Ian Smith, who in the '60's and '70's was more popular than Jesus himself.
@muhammadabuzarkhan7450
@muhammadabuzarkhan7450 Жыл бұрын
It was due to the fact Rhodesian wanted independence but even with constant improvement of rights of native; Zimbabwean politicians wanted British rule to stay because they feared that all the rights natives gained will be lost. Even though it wasn't just British but Rhodesian also that pushed for these rights. Apartheid ended they only lacked a back majority parliament.
@Qhawe_Jameson.
@Qhawe_Jameson. Жыл бұрын
Blacks BLACKS BLACK!!!m we African not black.
@robertmacdonald6527
@robertmacdonald6527 Жыл бұрын
Just came here to say Rhodesians never die
@AnthonyD-yy2in
@AnthonyD-yy2in Жыл бұрын
Why not? Zimbabweans do... 🤣
@alexbattaglia8297
@alexbattaglia8297 11 ай бұрын
so why can't i find rhodesia on a map?
@BigEast302
@BigEast302 11 ай бұрын
It's gone, buddy 😂😂
@SymphonyBrahms
@SymphonyBrahms 9 ай бұрын
There is no Rhodesia anymore. It's a footnote in history books.
@malfunctioninggoon5292
@malfunctioninggoon5292 Жыл бұрын
Hey man can I ask where you got the footage from 22:20 and some of the other Congo crisis footage? I know it says British Pathé but I can’t find it
@panchopuskas1
@panchopuskas1 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they didn't want the country to end up like it is now......
@kudamangi9087
@kudamangi9087 Жыл бұрын
Nkomo sounding Nigerian is wild 😂 great video though
@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely comical. I think they got a west African and asked him to sound cartoonish. Even Ian Smith's accent was ridiculous.
@chrisper7527
@chrisper7527 Жыл бұрын
I’m here for the comments. I’ve already made my conclusions. The most striking thing though is that when the black Africans won their political rights to rule, the settlers no longer had the deep affection for the land they claim as their historical ancestral land, and were eager to move to Europe, Australia and New Zealand. Canada and America.
@markharris8323
@markharris8323 7 ай бұрын
They were run out of the country. Those who weren’t were murdered on their land.
@Unterwelten
@Unterwelten Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic! I've always been fascinated by Rhodesia and various other transitions from colonial era rule. Thanks Casual Dude! Oh yeah and.. subscribed!
@user-wy6zl9pk5z
@user-wy6zl9pk5z Жыл бұрын
Great video, but the Rhodesian accents were poor, it would have been better to just read the quotes of the now-deceased leaders in your real accent.
@christianweibrecht6555
@christianweibrecht6555 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how much better Zimbabwe would have been if the british colonists listened to Garfield Todd
@RoshanKumar-br6op
@RoshanKumar-br6op Жыл бұрын
there is a tragic irony with Garfield Todd in that while at the time, the Reactionary Colonists probably thought he would "destroy Rhodesia," the ensuing blood shed out of their stubbornness for the impossible preservation of the past ultimately led to a greater and more complete obliteration of Rhodesia from existence than anything Todd could have done by giving the natives actual representation in government.
@yansideabacoa6257
@yansideabacoa6257 Жыл бұрын
silence white supremacist
@nigelnyoni8265
@nigelnyoni8265 Жыл бұрын
Indeed
@user-hr6uk7mn5o
@user-hr6uk7mn5o Жыл бұрын
Zimbabwe would have been a better country in a hole if they were never colonized from the beginning if the power leaders would have got together and initiated a form a militia group of all natives to Zimbabwe and also if the leaders were not corrupt and forced foreigners to pay a heavy price for raw materials that were coming out of Zimbabwe you would have had a beautiful country that was built on the wealth of foreign Nations but because the corruption and because of the Europeans constantly invading and forcing their way into a lot of these African countries and forcing other countries not to work with countries without their hand it made it very difficult
@stephan6372
@stephan6372 2 ай бұрын
​@user-hr6uk7mn5o. African countries were created by those super powers and not Africans. A pen on the map after discussions created African countries which before then was nothing but minor tribal collective if at all. The problem wasn't the white feeling above the African, but the African unwilling to remove themselves from tribal loyalty for the betterment of the country created. Tribal mentality and communist affiliations destroyed Africa.
@carstenbohemus8501
@carstenbohemus8501 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t know Ian Smith had been in the Goon Show.
@jimmy_octane
@jimmy_octane Ай бұрын
8:10 "right wing when it comes to race and left wing when it comes to economics"... Just like that little German party from the 1930s that will remain unmentioned. Same was true of South Africa's _National Party_ .
@8StringKeith
@8StringKeith Жыл бұрын
Please read Ian Smith’s book “The Great Betrayal”. It was a very eye opening account on how that part of the continent was developed and eventually discarded.
@CasualHistorian
@CasualHistorian Жыл бұрын
If you had watched the video the whole way through, or looked at my sources listed in the description, you would see nearly half the quotes were from Smith's memoirs.
@8StringKeith
@8StringKeith Жыл бұрын
I actually laying in bed and listened to the video. My apologies for not watching it 😞
@glendodds3824
@glendodds3824 Жыл бұрын
@@CasualHistorian Hi. I have watched your video in its entirety and enjoyed doing so. Moreover, I was born and bred in Salisbury and my father served in the Rhodesian Air Force. Ian Smith's book is very interesting but, sadly, like a lot of Rhodesian books it waters down the importance of race in Rhodesia and scapegoats South Africans for apartheid. Another example is 'Wings of Destruction' by one of my father's former colleagues, Peter Petter-Bowyer. Peter says that Rhodesians despised apartheid and had an entirely different outlook to South Africans but, as you are well aware, that claim can easily be blown out of the water. Rhodesia did have better race relations than South Africa and blacks had more rights but, contrary to what a lot of Rhodesians say, it was the Portuguese in Angola and Mozambique who had the highest levels of racial integration. For example, the following footage from October 1973 shows a black teacher in Angola's capital with a multi-racial class at a time when all government schools in Rhodesia were segregated. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d-BpgpWou6yXYKc.html
@donatist59
@donatist59 Жыл бұрын
​@@glendodds3824Serving Secretly by Ken Flower is one of the best memoirs I ever read.
@glendodds3824
@glendodds3824 Жыл бұрын
@@donatist59 Hi. Flower is of course a very controversial figure. I shall look at his book. Best wishes.
@user-cn5so7jj3z
@user-cn5so7jj3z 5 ай бұрын
I was born in Rhodesia in Salisbury in 1970 proud to be a Rhodesian ❤❤❤
@NoPantsBaby
@NoPantsBaby 13 күн бұрын
Because becoming Zimbabwe the hard way was better than becoming Zimbabwe the easy way.
@thisislilraskal
@thisislilraskal Жыл бұрын
Your videos are interesting, I always learn something.
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