that snowboarder at 1.30 demonstrating exactly why snowboarders are hated. the bmw drivers of the snowsports world. love that you're reviewing a narrower ski, would love to see you review the rossignol hero master LT.

Now it’s time for the “Rickety”… the year end ski awards 😊⛷

Oh thank goodness, so glad these got reviewed before the end of the season! Maybe we have just a different sense of turn shape versatility, but I would at least say that the Forza 70 (and the Forza 60 I tried for a couple runs) has a pretty reasonable range of turn shapes . . . relative to my Blizzard Thunderbird R13, though maybe also compared to the Stockli Montero AX, which doesn't seem to cut as tight of turns. Compared to the Thunderbird, the Forza 70 feels more forgiving both to how dialed in you are to making aggressive short-radius turns and also more forgiving to a wider range of conditions, particularly softer, broken-down hardpack. Definitely a stable ski, though not quite as much damping as a Stockli Montero, and its 77mm width makes it more relaxed than the quicker, snappier Thunderbird. I guess I would agree that the Forza 70 is a very specialized ski if you're talking to skiers who ski a lot of ungroomed terrain, but I'm skeptical of what a Midwest skier would be missing out on going for Forza over Experience if your priority is carving anyway, though I'll admit that I haven't actually tried a sub-85mm width Rossignol Experience of any SKU.

I think the 70 refers to the angle the average person should be able to get the ski up on edge to. These are actually 77mm waist.

hope you keep the vids coming this summer.....thanks again for your vids

I agree with your assessment. One addition issue I notice was grip in the steeps sucked. Perhaps it was the factory tune. Very well behaved and precise on green and blue runs. Great carver at slow speeds, but too specialized for me - and I unfortunately bought them before trying them.

I own these and agree. I got them to pass PSIA certification and now maybe to try them in club slalom. They are a ski you bring up and ski on part of the day. The tips are super cool and get lots of attention too. These do not work off trail at all. They are the farthest from being designed to to do that a ski could possibly ski (except for DH and super G skis). Good assessment. Score if qualified for just making perfect 15 degree turn like PSIA wants is 9 or 10. This skis is like a flagship ski. So well built. But yeah, specialized.

I spent most of my season on those in Quebec. They were quite fun and allowed me to improve my carving alot. The tip really pulls you into a turn (I got thr 163cm at 12m radius), but yeah it does feel very catchy if there's soft of chopped up snow. I was running to be first on the slopes in the morning and they make you feel like a hero on the freshly groomed runs. The edge grip was really good for me and they dont like smeared turns, so I was more hesitant to bring them on steeper slopes where I don't have great speed control. This will probably not be my daily driver next year as I got a Montero AR on sale recently!

Elliott back on skis… or is this pre-crash?

These skis are somewhat easy to find as used demo in France for a reasonable price (around 350€ to 400€ with look nx13 used less than a week total). I got the hero st 167cm like that. As a former low level racer they're great to stay on piste when skiing with lower level friends. 13m turns mean more time skiing. They're obviously awful (but manageable) off piste. I'm curious how they compare to the forza, which look more like a stiffer/damper hero mt ?

I was wondering why you weren't doing 'believable ski hero' turns - I guess 15m for a 181 is pretty short radius