Our politicians sold us out in policy and low tarrifs overseas

@@jonathanherbst6906dont forget NAFTA

Yeah, people said that in 1969. Adapt or get outta the way

The USA died when Biden won through a fraudulent election. Regardless of who won or lost, elections should be more secure

@@williamrogers7974 Yeah, that's about when things really started going downhill, and now we are just about at the end of the cycle of stupidity and ready to collapse. You can 'adapt' all you want, but that does not change the fact that it is a s##t show going down the toilet.

Back when we did not have other countries scamming us .

Ahhh but thankfully, you're older brother Jim, was along for the rides!!! :-)

I worked on 2 iron ore carriers the summer of 1969. One was built around 1917 with these towering open pistons that they oiled while the pistons were churning up and down, they had to time their movements so as not to injure themselves. My dad worked for USS at the time and got me the summer job, I was 17 at the time and it was a real eye opener. Those engineers were some tough guys but they also told us the "salts" the ones that work on ocean going ships we the real crazies- Mutiny on the Bounty stuff.I still work in the steel indiustry and these boats are still running. I live in Pittsburgh not to far from Wheeling WVA and the summer home of Olgebay whose company Olgebay Norton owned the.... you guessed it Edmund Fitzgerald.

+warbound1000 i guess for the most part people today are just plain stupid and would rather watch stupid mindless garbage

Something caught me right at the beginning, "Produced with the cooperation of the United States Coast Guard." We don't do that anymore, cooperate. This appears to me to be a business venture in which the government cooperated. Both sides came out way ahead, IMHO. KZfaq is the perfect platform for this.

Because we don't go to the movies to get our news anymore. TV killed the Movietone News

Rimone Media the value of American exports today is larger than it was in 1946. Automation is something we haven't truly grappled with. In 1946 it may have taken 10 men to produce 1 ton of steel, and today it takes 2. Apply that across industrial sectors, and multiply it by 5. The internal contradictions in capitalism haven't been reconciled. Artificial intelligence is going to cause a revolution and social discord.

It's not all gone. I can attest to that. But the ships are bigger, mills cleaner, and rail is also a competitor. But Gary, Lorain and Cleveland are still making steel with ore brought in by HUGE lakers more than 1000 feet long.

Buy lake front property at basement bargain prices!

Actually, in 2016 IT'S 70 YEARS ON!! And now in 2019 it's 73 years. Which makes this golden oldie even more precious!

Sad, isn't it.

And the Hueletts are no longer around. I can still hear them in my head because they made a sound you'll never forget.

One of those thousand footers can carry as much as 4 or 5 of those vintage boats. Yes they are butt ugly, but it's all about efficiency. Just like everything else, the shipping world changes over time.

This is a decade before the Edmund Fitzgerald was built

Dog your hatches properly.

Mtfboi 265 Yeah, no shit.

Fitz wasn't even built yet

kab kab If you are referring to the Hullett Ore Unloaders, they where built in 1912.

*The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead When the skies of November turn gloomy.* My uncle sailed on the lakes for years.

Puddles indeed sir!

What about December’s. Did you ever go out on the boat in December?

@@F22donny yup, snowed while at anchor in Detour passage, big storm December of '68, had to shovel coupla foot of snow off the deck, and used fire hoses with hot water to get it off. There be a lotta tonnage in wet snow on a freighters deck

Did you know someone who was lost on the EF? I remember her anniversary every year even though I didn't know anyone personally. I've just been fascinated by the story ever since she sank.

@@j.whiteoak6408 No I didn't know anyone on board. I've been really fascinated with the Edmund Fitzgerald ever since I heard Gordon Lightfoots song. The band I played in did this song and I sang it. Very emotional song and story. I researched the ships on the Great Lakes, wrote poems and short stories about several shipwrecks. I wrote one for the Daniel J Morrell. Later on I actually located and contacted Dennis Hale, sole survivor of the Morrell. I gave him a copy of my short story, which he was surprised how accurate it was, and in return, he sent me a cd of himself telling the story. Very cool. A great guy. He said I wrote things he had forgotten about. Anyway, I appreciate your interest and fascination. Thank you. May you always have red skys at night. God bless you.✌Mike Pardue

@@rebeccapardue8438 HI Mike, Yes, I think the Edmund Fitzgerald story was taught to most people around the world by Gordon Lightfoot : ) I'm a muso and I learned the song which became a solid part of my own repertoire .. and I always feel a sense of awe and great sadness every time I sing it. Gordo made the EF every bit as infamous as "that other ship" - I mean the one that's on the bottom of the Nth Atlantic. "R.I.P. to the Captain and Crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald..Still sailing". - J.W.

Dog your hatches properly.

@@ShortArmOfGod That was a lie conjured up to get the fault of the blame off of the shipping company. Captain Cooper(Captain, of the Anderson) said it either bottomed out on 6 Fathom Shoal or the hull cracked causing her to set low causing her to be pushed under the surface by huge following waves.

E.M. Ford

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I think because in the film it said two hours to fill the hold that's only one so if you multiply that by about 8 holds then you would get 16 hours.

​@@cadenstoddard6968 Nope. A watchman and I missed the boat in Two Harbors, MN 😂. They loaded us in 2:55. (river class 636' boat). That was 1981. Most of the boats back then were much smaller. Had a good time anyway. Caught back up with her three days later in Detroit via the mailboat J.W. Wescott.

Ohh, they're there. They're of the landlubber variety now. Obese critters, obsessed with ho-ho's, potato chips, high fat and sugar donuts and sodas. You see them every now and again on the beaches. Easily spotted where the masses of young men are attempting to roll them back into the waters....

Whaleback ore boats, like the SS Meteor?