Great Racers on Inappropriate Systems

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Great Racers on Inappropriate Systems | Nostalgia Nerd

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The first 1,000 people to use this link will get a 1 month free trial of Skillshare: skl.sh/nostalgianerd11201 (sponsored). There have been some fantastic arcade racers over the years.... Outrun, Turbo Outrun, Chase HQ, SCI, Hard Drivin'... I could go on. Many of these games were ported across to home micros such as the ZX Spectrum, MSX, Amstrad CPC, even NES... but sometimes, things didn't turn out as well as everyone had hoped.
🕒Timings🕒
0:00-01:00 Introduction
01:00-03:25 Buggy Boy
03:25-06:25 Outrun
06:25-08:40 Super Hang-On
08:40-11:23 Chase HQ
11:23-14:18 Hard Drivin'
14:18-15:09 SkillShare
15:09-16:28 Close and Credits
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Check out full game footage of these fantastic (and less so) racers, here;
Arcade Buggy Boy: • BUGGY BOY (ARCADE - FU...
Triple Screen Buggy Boy: • Real Buggy Boy *tripl...
Arcade Outrun: • OutRun Longplay (Arcade)
MSX Outrun: • MSX Longplay [041] Out...
CPC Outrun: • OUTRUN (AMSTRAD CPC - ...
Arcade Super Hang-On: • Super Hang-On Longplay...
Mega Drive Super Hang-On: • Mega Drive Longplay [1...
Sailing: • Sailing on a Commodore 64
Enduro Racer: • C64 Enduro Racer longplay
Afterburner: • After Burner Longplay ...
C64 Super Hang-On: • C64 Super Hang On, Afr...
Spectrum Super Hang-On: • Super Hang-On ZX Spectrum
C64 Super Cycle: • Super Cycle (C64 Longp...
Spectrum Chase HQ: • ZX Spectrum Longplay [...
Amstrad Chase HQ: • CHASE H.Q. (AMSTRAD CPC)
C64 Chase HQ: • CHASE H.Q. (C64 - FULL...
Arcade Hard Drivin': • Hard Drivin' - Arcade
Arcade Hard Drivin' Cab: • Atari's classic Hard D...
NES Hard Drivin': • Hard Drivin' (NES, Pro...
ZX Spectrum Hard Drivin': • Hard Drivin' Walkthrou...
C64 Hard Drivin': • C64 HD - Hard Drivin'
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@rolandkatsuragi 3 жыл бұрын

I can now understand why Carmack prioritized framerate above all else when developing ports of Doom

@LouisTheSEGANerd 3 жыл бұрын

@Nobody comments are not funny you troglodyte yep, he didn't like it because it used a fully 3d engine which had some texture warping (as we would see with the incredible quake port)

@discountfeces 3 жыл бұрын

He also has later said he regrets that at least

@hurktang 3 жыл бұрын

My brother cries when his game run at 55fps, he says it's completely unplayable under 60. He's in another generation..

@ZX3000GT1 3 жыл бұрын

Now if only he did the same with the Saturn port he sabotaged.

@AltimaNEO 3 жыл бұрын

@@hurktang that's how it goes, i guess. We're come from a time where we were lucky if the game was playable at all. Now it's 60fps minimum, 120+ preferred

@SonicAlpha 3 жыл бұрын

The music for my copy of the Amstrad version of Outrun came on a seperate cassette, intended to be played on a hifi. It was infinitely better than the game itself 😅

@MEGAMIGA 3 жыл бұрын

True! Believe it or not, I still have the tape! :D

@goldcd 3 жыл бұрын

Same for the spectrum.

@nick6var 3 жыл бұрын

That's an odd solution, to say the least!

@MEGAMIGA 3 жыл бұрын

@@nick6var Not odd, 80s-style ;)

@slammy102 3 жыл бұрын

The music cassette made up for the game lol

@nickspeakman7919 3 жыл бұрын

"Manchester.... so much to answer for", Ocean, Software Creations, Binary Design, Probe, Icon, Tiertex.... I worked on Hard Drivin' and Double Dragon (in the last video) for Binary Design. All I can say is "sorry". Mike Day did an amazing technical job on Hard Drivin' but you can't make a 3D "silk purse" out of a 1Mhz Commodore "sow's ear"... and Domark INSISTED it was 3D.

@nickspeakman7919 3 жыл бұрын

@Newsbender 🤣 sorry….and all the other versions… the Amstrad version was good! 😳

@betaman7988 3 жыл бұрын

@@nickspeakman7919 The Atari 2600 version was worse than the Speccys though

@waynecuff3140 3 жыл бұрын

Obviously these arcade beauties were far to advanced for our 8bit wonders. But there is no doubt most titles were rushed for Xmas I expect. Typical pressure from publishers to the developers.

@princesssprinklesthecat4192 2 жыл бұрын

Didn't you work on stun runner too

@evilo13 3 жыл бұрын

The Outrun Amstrad CPC version was actually coming with an audio tape for the music, that you could play while playing ☺️😄

@danielespeziari5545 3 жыл бұрын

This video made me appreciate the Master System ports of Outrun and Chase HQ even more.

@TheGeneral308 2 жыл бұрын

Yea I really enjoyed the Sega Master System for the Arcade ports. For the time they were really good.

@dannyboyy31 3 жыл бұрын

I owned a Hard Drivin’ cockpit for a few years back in the early 2010’s. It was an awesome bit of kit which I still regret selling, so it was nice to see that footage of the arcade version. Enjoyed the rest of the video too, although I was shocked at how poor some of those C64 conversions were. As a Spectrum owner back in the 1980s, the C64 boys were always bragging about how superior the Commodore was, and how much better its games were. At the time I believed them, and no doubt the C64 did do some things better than the Speccy. But this video belatedly made me realise there are some types of games that the former simply can’t cope with, so it was far from an undisputed victory for the C64. I wish I had known this back in the playground nearly 40 years ago!

@trunkit8749 3 жыл бұрын

These look like games you’d see on a kid’s tv in an 80’s movie

@freezinfire 3 жыл бұрын

My laptop plays 2007 games at close to 20 fps at 720p resolution. I get the feeling you were trying to demonstrate here.

@jomjom1207 3 жыл бұрын

Chase HQ on the C64 was the only game that actually made me cry after having played the arcade and nagged my parents to buy it to me. It was also the game that started my career in piracy.. I swore never again to buy a original game.

@Tim_3100 3 жыл бұрын

That was a good enjoyable game on the c64 but yeah wasn't a great port

@jasonuk8333 3 жыл бұрын

Chase HQ 2 was a much better conversion, and showed the C64 could handle such games (Turbo Outrun was another great conversion). The problem with the first one was just that it was an incredibly lazy attempt.

@rinner2801 3 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed Buggy Boy on the C64. Double dragon was by far the saddest x-mas present I ever got.

@AltimaNEO 3 жыл бұрын

I was lucky to have the SNES be my first video gaming machine. Joe and Mac, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, NBA Jam, all pretty damned close to their arcade counterparts.

@menhirmike 3 жыл бұрын

When I look at Hard Drivin' on the C64, I have to think about Stunt Car Racer which did the "3D" World so much better and faster.

@juststatedtheobvious9633 3 жыл бұрын

Line vectors immediately improve every polygon game on 8-bit. (And would have improved a lot of 16-bit games too.)

@victorvance2573 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed "Stunt Car Racer" is a fantastic game. I own the Amiga version.

@hazy33 3 жыл бұрын

Helps if you have one of the best 3d programmers in the world ie. Geoff Crammond.

@jasonuk8333 3 жыл бұрын

I read somewhere that the original developer for the C64 version of Hard Drivin' was actually coming up with some decent work given the limitations of the machine, although it was by no means a completed game. It was just taking too long, so Domark cut him adrift and gave another developer a ridiculously short time to come up with a conversion. There was no chance that there was going to be a playable game given the timeframe, and in the end the resulting C64 version never got a full release. It eventually tuned up on a driving game compilation (which was when I played it for the first (and last!) time, and I think got a budget release.

@ClayMann 3 жыл бұрын

that was something we easily forget. Games had to be pumped out fast back then. Very rare for games to be allowed long development times. The money just wasn't there to support it.

@crazysilly2914 3 жыл бұрын

@@ClayMann nowadays they take minimum 5 years to develop LMAO

@ericpode6095 3 жыл бұрын

"5 frames per second...." Ahh, the good ol' days!

@Ndlanding 3 жыл бұрын

Some of it looked like five seconds per frame.

@grrarg9319 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ndlanding Tomato (US), Tomato (UK)

@skinnypotato4452 3 жыл бұрын

@@grrarg9319 british bee, and USB

@Ndlanding 3 жыл бұрын

@@grrarg9319 I think I see the difference now.

@1988Demien 3 жыл бұрын

More like 1 or 2

@tsilb 3 жыл бұрын

11:28 The arcade version of Hard Drivin' looks a lot like a DOS game called Stunts.

@jasonblalock4429 3 жыл бұрын

That's the other way around. Hard Drivin' came first and probably inspired Stunts.

@Sekir80 3 жыл бұрын

And even then, Stunts is way behind on graphics. I'm in awe how good Hard Drivin looked in '89!

@jasonblalock4429 3 жыл бұрын

@@Sekir80 The funny thing is, Hard Drivin' wasn't even the first 3D racer. Namco's "Winning Run" beat it by a couple months - and has a better framerate! The graphics are slightly less detailed, but it runs at 60fps.

@NcWcN1 3 жыл бұрын

No wonder why it looked so familiar... the house computer back in 1995 had Stunts on it. Fun times.

@CTRIX64 3 жыл бұрын

Nice vid! Love the comparisons. Amazing what the original arcade programmers got from those platforms - especially with the "nod" of 1-frame output (that is, 1 frame of movement per screen refresh). Porting those effects to home computers without the dedicated sprite and background layers was an insane effort.... and it depended hugely on how deep your contracted programmer went with the hardware of the platform you were targeting. It's wild that some of those ports worked at all....

@georged7627 3 жыл бұрын

Now buggy boy on the c64 is one of the best ever....Still enjoyable to this day 🤘🏾great work

@Larry 3 жыл бұрын

If you ever do a follow up, WEC LeMans on the C64 is a particularly terrible port too. But the C64 was pretty bad at 3D racing games in general.

@fizzlepop9451 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, WEC was terrible. I seem to remember Turbo Outrun was ok though... or was it?

@damionlee7658 3 жыл бұрын

@@fizzlepop9451 Turbo Outrun on the C64 was a surprisingly good port. On the bad side, Crazy Cars drove me mad. And I spent many hours on WEC, trying to get past more than the first couple of check points. Couldn't even enjoy playing it casually, because I never found a way to get the timer frozen with my Action Replay.

@gamingcrazy7013 3 жыл бұрын

@@fizzlepop9451 The C64 version of Turbo OutRun is surprisingly good.

@JustWasted3HoursHere 3 жыл бұрын

True. Rendered screen type games, like simulators and first/third person driving games etc, almost always perform worse on the C64 because the CPU has to do ALL the work and isn't up to the job. It's running at only 1.02mhz, after all (in the US). This is where having multi-megahertz processor comes in handy even if the overall system is not that great. It's the 2D type game, where hardware sprites and other hardware advantages can be used that does the best on the C64. Of course, a badly written 2D game can still perform bad and a well-written "3D" game can still perform great on the C64.

@ctbullett300 3 жыл бұрын

"Stunt car racer" was a true polygonal racing game, and it ran as smooth on the C64 as it did on the spectum and amstrad.

@IntrinsicPalomides 3 жыл бұрын

Wahey, Super Hang-on, and the "cheat" you could enable on the Amiga version so you shoot bullets from your bike to clear the way! :D

@MEGAMIGA 3 жыл бұрын

For real?!

@alexkubrat3868 3 жыл бұрын

Amiga had some whacky cheat codes, and some of them were... weird. The most famous amiga cheat is in Dynamite Dux.

@rudolphbondefangerer5513 3 жыл бұрын

DX-Ball!

@IntrinsicPalomides 3 жыл бұрын

@@MEGAMIGA I did reply with a link to the details but it got splatted somehow, so here it is in text: Begin game play in Africa and achieve the highest score on this track. Enter 750J as a name at the high score screen and press Fire. The name will change to .... to confirm correct code entry. Hold [Ctrl] + [Left Alt] + Z + T while the credits screen is changing into the options screen. After a brief pause, the screen will turn black. Release all keys. If done correctly, a prompt for new outer and inner road turn effect coefficients values will appear. Enter the values with the numeric keypad, which determine how well your bike corners. Enter a high number for more skidding, enter a low number to handle corners better. Enabling cheat mode will also activate a machine gun that can be used to destroy other bikes or obstacles. Press [Left Amiga] during game play to fire the gun.

@MEGAMIGA 3 жыл бұрын

@@IntrinsicPalomides Crazy! Quite a complex one! No one without an Action Replay could figure it out XD

@GeoffSeeley 3 жыл бұрын

As a kid who started out on Pole Position in the arcade and bought most racing games for the Commodore family and later the PC, this really hit home. I kept buying games thinking they would be better and better only to be disappointed. I think Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix was the first worthy racing game I can remember. Great video and content!

@philbateman1989 3 жыл бұрын

Super Hang-On on Mega Drive was awesome! Probably one of the first games I ever played. My brother and I got a Mega Drive for Christmas in (I think) 1992. It came with Sonic 1 and Mega Games 1, which included Super Hang-On, Columns, and Italia '90. So much nostalgia with those games.

@ProffyChaos 3 жыл бұрын

The last 4 videos have been brilliant. Pure Nostalgia Nerd, great script, delivery - everything.

@insoft_uk 3 жыл бұрын

Buggy Boy on the speccy in the day may of seem sluggish, tho today on the NEXT it’s awesome port

@marcelchrist4069 3 жыл бұрын

For sure. But it will be the same if a c64 next or a msx next was created. The essential is the perception of the game at the time (90 's).

@rigues 3 жыл бұрын

@@marcelchrist4069 There is an MSX Next. In fact, there are two. Look up the Zemmix Neo (Korea) or the SM-X (Brazil). Both FPGA based, full of amazing features built-in (turbo, SD Interface, expansion cards, etc)

@jesusbear7367 3 жыл бұрын

This is a pretty interesting series you have here. I'd love to see more of these.

@o-SPECTRE-o 3 жыл бұрын

I still remember getting Outrun on the Amstrad and my complete shock when I saw it running. They had a separate cassette with the music on it and I can remember putting that in my Walkman while attempting to play the game. And you had to choose, listen the music or the sound effects (basically a repeating blip sound). I loved the arcade version but this version was too much to take.

@AstraLee-Investigator_Sapling- 3 жыл бұрын

Hard Drivin’ has a sequel, Race Drivin’. That actually has a surprisingly impressive Gameboy port.

@Sevenigma777 3 жыл бұрын

This is a real cool series idea and these videos have been awesome! Thanks for the excellent content!

@VaterOrlaag 3 жыл бұрын

2:05 That sprite does indeed look quite buggy.

@rigues 3 жыл бұрын

The true MSX port of Out Run is the MSX 2 one, made by Pony Canyon. MUCH better than the Spectrum port, but not a great game either. Worse than the SMS port, for example.

@jasonblalock4429 3 жыл бұрын

Just looked up footage. Yeah, not bad. Good sense of speed, anyway. Also, that Tandy-style chiptune Splash Wave is adorable.

@Lost_n_Found_1 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Some of my favorite arcade racers of all time are the top-down multiplayer offerings, like Ivan "Iron Man" Stewart's Super Off-Road, Super Sprint, Badlands. I absolutely adored the NES port of Super Off-Road, and it's Indy Car spiritual spin-off, Danny Sullivan's Indy Heat. Our NES Four Score and NES Advatage controllers never got so much use than with those 2 games, lol.

@Spotflare98 2 жыл бұрын

The more and more I watch you, the little quips with cars here and there along with this make me think I'm in the presence of a fellow car nut/IT nerd

@CLS2086 3 жыл бұрын

Outrun for Amstrad CPC tape edition was delivered with 2 tapes ! 1 for the program, the other one for music on you hifi tape deck. I got it.

@jonedwards7019 3 жыл бұрын

The Atari ST port of Hard Drivin' was fairly good. I played it a lot back in the day. I don't remember any of the ports of Outrun being very good - 8 or 16 bit. I think the best one I've played was the PC Engine version, which was capable of doing some really cool stuff for an 8 bit machine.

@sbanner428 3 жыл бұрын

I frowned as always when I saw the Chase HQ on the ZX, but then a huge grin came to my face. Great work Ocean!

@Robocop_1987 3 жыл бұрын

Great job on the video , really enjoyed watching it .

@alexkubrat3868 3 жыл бұрын

15:24 Rad Mobile! My most favorite videogame off all times, you should do a review on this underrated gem.

@Whenitraveltheworld 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, loved it. I loved Chase HQ when I was a kid. Now i'm waiting on your history of Sensible Soccer Video , or a Worms history Video.

@EnforcerX71 3 жыл бұрын

Chase HQ was one of my favorite games on the Spectrum back in the day, hurts my heart to see it butchered on the C64.

@ClayMann 3 жыл бұрын

It was a good one. I had a C64 and my mate had the Spectrum so I only got to play these games on a Saturday or Sunday while visiting. It was hard having a really good Spectrum version then having to go home and play the shit C64 one. Thankfully there were plenty of C64 games that beat the Speccy. So plenty of friendly hatred was thrown back and forth about each systems games hehe

@thgftiigghjfryyhgjiyreg8945 3 жыл бұрын

worst game ever. torture. are you kidding me?

@fizzlepop9451 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Chase HQ on Speccy was great. I remember being disappointed when I got the same game on Amiga, but SCI (Chase 2) wasn't too bad there, except the voice acting!!

@Sekir80 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I played it on EP128, which is very similar I guess. Haven't seen it in a long time, so, my memory might playing tricks on me. :D

@thgftiigghjfryyhgjiyreg8945 3 жыл бұрын

@@Sekir80 why are you playing this garbage? i was forced to play this in my youth... everytime i see this old ports i feel the same sadness and dissapointment as i did then... its just a mystery to me... now you have very good arcade emulation and still choose this? why?

@RetroSegaDev 3 жыл бұрын

Ooo another one of these videos! Quality stuff 😍

@wytsfrevsf 3 жыл бұрын

The Amstrad version of Outrun came with the soundtracks on audio tape! :)

@nathanwarner4584 3 жыл бұрын

@10:50 the sounds being made sound almost exactly how i remember all those space guns from the poundshops i used to get when going shopping with my mum when i was like 6-7 year's old in the mid 90s. Alot of different cheap electronic toys, be it cars, lazer guns or robots ect all seemed to use the same set of prerecorded sounds on the most basic sound chip that barely rivalled that of a musical birthday card lol.

@digitalmagicAR 3 жыл бұрын

Great review! Hard Driving was super impressive at the arcade. I was later excited to see it printed in a periodical for the NES but guess it never got released. In 1990 we got Test Drive 3 for the PC which was as close to the Hard Driving arcade 3D experience would ever be at home I suppose

@tahustvedt 3 жыл бұрын

When you see what modern devs are capable of producing on the Amstrad CPC it's almost infuriating to see what shovelware was released back then.

@tylisirn 3 жыл бұрын

Not really fair comparison though, because today builds upon all the lessons learned during the machine's lifetime plus another 30 years more in everything from algorithms to best practices to even more tricks you can pull with the hardware. And most importantly, all that information is freely and easily available online. We also have access to emulators that can single step your code cycle perfect to debug it, and modern text editors to code it in. Every tool you could ever want to make development easier. Of course the games in this video are crap, but they simply shouldn't have even been made. The state of the art wasn't up to it at the time.

@tahustvedt 3 жыл бұрын

@@tylisirn Somewhere in between would have been awesome. The releases back then were abysmal.

@At0micPunk90 5 ай бұрын

I've already watched this video a few times but every time the Outrun segment transitions from the arcade version to the MSX version, I can feel part of my soul dying, especially hearing the music.

@grillodofus 2 жыл бұрын

These vids are surprisingly fun! I was like 8 when this gen of computers so i had no idea.

@jodijohnson3488 3 жыл бұрын

I had Buggy Boy on the 464. Similar to the C64 version, except with the added molasses from the Spectrum (i.e. it was super slow...)

@CarBitGTSaxen 3 жыл бұрын

Do more of these ! Super interesting !!

@samroberts7404 3 жыл бұрын

This video has reminded me of both how good arcade driving soundtracks were in the 80s and how good hard driving was on the lynx...

@tkazi 3 жыл бұрын

Though just a glimpse, you brought back Road Fighter memories. Ta-da-da ta-da-dat ta-da-dat ta-dat-dat-da dong-dong-dong ting

@BasVoet 3 жыл бұрын

You’re pumping out videos lately, nice!

@robvegas9354 3 жыл бұрын

Spent many afternoons playing Outrun and Turbo Outrun on our C64. That Chase HQ port looks dire.

@paulisthebest3uk 3 жыл бұрын

Phew i almost was going to comment then lol! When i first seen the MSX version of outrun on your video i thought you was going to say it was the spectrum version. The Spectrum version is actually really good (if a little slow) but wow its leaps ahead of the MSX version.

@JesterEric 3 жыл бұрын

There is another version of Outrun for MSX 2. Not a classic but it is playable

@skylined5534 3 жыл бұрын

"Get in the bin!" 😂 As for that C64 version of Super Hang-on? More like Super-hungover! The slow, jerky motion to all the puke all over the ground... it's like the morning after a 'good' night out.

@97channel 3 жыл бұрын

A good example of where the right compromises were made is Pole Position on the Atari 2600. An impressive port, considering the hardware limitations. The graphics are basic but represent all the elements acceptably. The 3D effect is good. The sound effects adequate. But the key component is gameplay. It feels fast, responsive and reasonably comparable to the arcade original. It's still playable even today. Another interesting port is Virtua Racing. The 32X version is probably the system's standout game. And the Mega Drive version is really impressive, although not worth the £70 price tag despite the custom chip and the hard work put into it. I also loved the C64 port of Outrun. I didn't know the arcade original, back in the day, so I just accepted the C64 version for what it was. I know it gets some stick, and I can see now where it falls short, but I still think it's a really decent game.

@borobengal 2 жыл бұрын

Always remember the dodgy screen shots on the back of game boxes. Buggy Boy on the Amiga and ST looked spot on, but they didn’t even play as good as the Commodore 64 version. Apparently it was absolute garbage on Spectrum and Amstrad. The Commodore 64 version never got the credit it deserved. And Outrun and Turbo Outrun on Commodore 64 couldn’t be faulted.

@Tech101yt 2 жыл бұрын

I like how the Ferrari logo flips when you steer on the MSX version of Outrun.

@gdawwg1125 3 жыл бұрын

I loved buggy boy on the c64 , i remember one night some friends and I played it all night

@geezerdiamond 3 жыл бұрын

Speccy ChaseHQ is just about the best arcade port to the machine ever. Even all the attract sequences are there. Just a superb job 👍

@urmo345 3 жыл бұрын

It was Amiga 500 that did bring arcade into my home tv with all its perfectness! AMIGA FOREVER!

@OrionCrazyCarl 3 жыл бұрын

I remember going on holiday in late 80s ,playing double dragon constantly, when we got home my dad got it for us for the spectrum, I thought it was brilliant ! obviously looking at it now, it was a bit bare ,but we didn't know any better!

@DragonsTooth 3 жыл бұрын

I lost so many hours of my childhood to Turbo Outrun on the ZX Spectrum. It was not a challenging game but a nice way to chill out. 80's music and sunsets.

@sandycheeks7865 3 жыл бұрын

I spent most of the 80s and early 90s buying awful racing games on 8 and then 16 bit machines. I was there with Chase HQ on the spectrum with the mini ‘big’ cardboard box. Everything changed though the day I saw Lotus Turbo Challenge in the window of Softly in Milton Keynes. Running on an Amiga they had totally nailed the frame rate and 3D effect of the road. I was in love and finally I had a racing game at home that felt as good as an arcade machine. Great music too.

@davidspencer7254 3 жыл бұрын

Ah, can't wait for 16 inappropriate 16 bit conversions, starting with Carrier Command C64

@ralang999 3 жыл бұрын

Nice to see some love for Super Cycle. Easily my fave C64 racer. If only that programmer had handled the C64 arcade racer ports!

@DannyNilsson 3 жыл бұрын

ohh this video is going to be epic, just what i have hoped for. as there is too many ambitions ports through the time

@JohnyG29 3 жыл бұрын

Outrun on the ST was class! The music was great.

@jedgrahek1426 Жыл бұрын

Hard Drivin' I have never heard of, but it looks identical to the old PC Test Run (?) series, right down to the polygons the loop is made of and the instant replay, just running on something better than a 286. Very odd. Also, seeing all these makes me realize what a miracle it was to have something like F-Zero at launch for the SNES. Very glad I spent many hours of my (older) childhood playing that and not any of these.

@AcornElectron 3 жыл бұрын

3:34 up there with the absolute best in game music ever.

@Zerbey 9 ай бұрын

Some of the spectrum ports were genuinely impressive, I put hours into Out Run and Chase HQ as a kid. I think the programmers understood less is more. Hard Drivin’ was still a bit too much for the poor Speccy but I had fun with it.

@mchenrynick 3 жыл бұрын

@7:29 It almost looks like they tried to make a motorcycle out of ASCII characters LOL!

@kenknight5983 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you- I've now seen footage of the 3 screen arcade version of Buggy Boy (I've been wondering what it looked like). I've also been pondering if there's a successful way to setup Mame to have the 3 screens running at the same time (they're 3 different roms). Perhaps there's potential for some fpga product to run 3 screen arcade games

@Maxrom 3 жыл бұрын

I remember the arguments at school back in the day over which was better, the speccy or the C64. The C64 was often declared the winner after "reasoned playground discussion". But honestly, looking back now, the speccy often had the more playable versions of games, the 128K sound was good enough for most, and the resolution of the graphics was higher despite the lack of colours. I thought then the speccy was the best, and I still do now.

@hackerx7329 2 жыл бұрын

Oh man, I thought the SNES version of Hard Drivin was choppy and bad. I had no idea a Commie 64 version was even attempted. Truly a case of a game being released too early. It would have been a perfect candidate for one of the various SNES coprocessors, especially the FX. It would be really neat to see Atari do full remasters of their early 3D arcade games even though the people wearing that name now aren't the same ones that made the games in the first place.

@set1237 3 жыл бұрын

Oh man. There were so many of these half arsed ports back in the day. Double Dragon for the c64 for instance, which had an apology in the manual about not being able to throw weapons such as barrels.

@fsddevelopment4513 2 жыл бұрын

Technically C64 Hard Driving is an astonishing technical feat (for the time and restrictions). It was awful to play obviously, but the arcade machine was one of the least fun racers.

@alanfike 3 жыл бұрын

The Ferrari logo on the back of the car on the MSX port of Outrun changes orientation. Sometimes it faces, right, then the horse faces left, and back.

@AndyButton 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, thank you! Can I ask where the arcade footage at the end was filmed?

@key099able 3 жыл бұрын

3 videos in a week, madness

@Nostalgianerd 3 жыл бұрын

I sleep now

@matressking83 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nostalgianerd Real shit? Sorry, couldn’t resist

@willrobinson7599 2 жыл бұрын

Cracking video showing how easily we was let down by some conversions. As u say the c64 version of chase hq was appalling

@fauzirahman3285 3 жыл бұрын

Hard Driving reminds me an old DOS game I used to play back in the late 80s/early 90s called Stunts. Graphics were consistent with games during that era though it was highly replayable because there is a track editor, and I used to share my replays with my friends. I think at one time we were just trying to smash the car against and object and see how we can cause it to glitch and make the car fly as high as possible. Too bad it only allows head to head racing with only one AI compared to Hard Driving but I would waste countless hours seeing how I can break the game.

@Rokabur 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite arcade racer was actually California Speed. 450MB arcade racer scaled down to a 16MB cartridge for the N64.

@ewetoo 2 жыл бұрын

I'm just salivating thinking of what the 2nd edition zx spectrum next will do with some of these ports or indeed whether we will see a new generation of new retro titles, it would be fantastic to see some of these done right for a change.

@johnw81floyd 3 жыл бұрын

Chase HQ and Outrun were my favourites too in the arcades. I had both on my beloved C64. Outrun was great and got many hours of play, I can still feel the crushing disappointment of the Chase HQ port. Hearing those annoying tyre squeals in the video brought all of it rushing back.

@ratspike8017 3 жыл бұрын

I am so conflicted about Outrun on A500. It was one of the first games I got hold of, and being a huge fan of Outrun (who isn't?) I forced myself to play it loads. To be honest I had little idea that the Amiga was capable of much more, and it is only looking back I can realise it wasn't a good game. But somehow I loved it. Anyone else have anything similar?

@swheelman7231 3 жыл бұрын

I loved buggy boy on the c64 Also finally closure on afterburner,it would never load 🤷🏻‍♂️

@igorszamaszow171 3 жыл бұрын

I remember liking Outrun on Amstrad as a kid, I probably should check it out again. I just haven't really played it long enough to dislike it (I've never owned an Amstrad CPC) and you're right that it looks nice at first glance. Being a speccy kid, I have to admit I was sometimes envious of "normal" colours.

@insoft_uk 3 жыл бұрын

Outrun was butchered on the Amiga, the Atari ST was good like the developers in them days would put all their efforts in on platform and couldn’t be bothered putting in the same effort in the rest, like they just wanted to move onto the next game

@ressljs 3 жыл бұрын

For the sake of protecting your childhood memories, I'd recommend not going back and playing Outrun again. My experience with replaying the games of my childhood is that 2D games can still be quite fun. But the 3D games that were pushing the hardware beyond what they were built for have become really unplayable. Back in the 80's, the novelty and the knowledge that it was as good as you were going to get at home helped mask the shortcomings. But playing them now, all that will be gone and you'll be left wondering what mental deficiencies you had as a child that allowed you to enjoy such trash.

@paulocorreia2024 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice. Subscribed.

@thingsiplay 3 жыл бұрын

The Power Ranger Bike gave me a good chunk of laugh. :D

@panelvixen 3 жыл бұрын

I was curious as to the selling price of these games, couldn't find any info, but I did discover a NES game price guide, and that sound you heard that sounds like a jaw dropping and hitting the top of a desk? That was my jaw dropping and hitting the top of my desk. I need to remind my family that if I kick off before they do, don't trash those games in the attic, don't give them away, no yard sales, and no thrift stores.

@apri1979 3 жыл бұрын

I liked Buggy Boy so much on my Atari 1040. That version also looked a lot near the arcade. Hang-On, the normal one, was pre-installed on my first Master System, and i played this game a lot, too. But for me it didn‘t aged well.

@AskDr.Stupid 3 жыл бұрын

4:18, Strong Gameboy music vibes right there.

@catriona_drummond 3 жыл бұрын

What I like is that every system gets it's fair share of game-trainwrecks. No matter the hardware. although a really bad racer on the amiga or the atari were missing. The must have been one, right?

@meetoo594 3 жыл бұрын

Outrun on Amiga was pretty bad. A straight port of the already below average ST version.

@meetoo594 3 жыл бұрын

Dragon ninja was another one, slow as a snail and there's a bug on the train level that makes the game almost impossible to complete due to faulty jump Mechanic's. Robocop is a pretty half arsed effort that uses none of the Amigas power. Afterburner was a travisty of st porting that's actually worse than the 8 bit master system version.

@kingnotail3838 2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou for nearly making me sick laughing with the C64 version of Hard Drivin ;D

@lout3921 3 жыл бұрын

15:32 this game falls under I need to try again 30 years later.

@ditmarvanbelle1061 2 жыл бұрын

Those Hard Driving ports are pretty damn impressive from a technical point of view I've got to admit. It seems to run at around the same framerate as my 286 ran Stunts on hercules graphics, and that was a 16 MHz

@nick6var 3 жыл бұрын

The C64 version of Outrun was pretty good, and with good SID music, too. It's too bad that Super Hang-On was from a different programmer.

@stoney5137 2 жыл бұрын

It almost feels like some of these ports were only done as a "check box" to fill some weird marketing requirement "C64? Oh yeah we can totally port Hard Drivin' to that, no problem!

@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 2 жыл бұрын

Once likes of Domark acquired the licence, they needed to recoup the costs, so put it out on all the popular home formats

@talideon 3 жыл бұрын

So, the thing is that the C64 wasn't all that much slower than the Spectrum. Sure, the C64 has a slower clock, but the Z80 required more clock cycles per instruction. The problem is that anything that required you to write to memory was slow, because on the C64, _all_ memory was contended. You couldn't, say, have hot and cold parts of the code, depending on which banks you were dealing with because the VIC-II contended with _everything_! Really, the saving grace of the Spectrum was, for its flaws, the clever design of the ULA.