the rhythm of this melody always has haunted me, since earliest childhood upon hearing it, have always kept it with me no matter where I may roam
@PickleRick91x Жыл бұрын
I thought I was just a weirdo.. 🤣 I remember being like, five and having a little electric piano, an it had pre loaded songs and I just loved the music Never heard these lyrics tho lol
@robertbairt9094 Жыл бұрын
☘️Saint Paddy had Greensleeves 🍀👍🥳 My 7th Grd music class 1st song taught approaching Christmas 1966. Thanks You anapreciated music teach Mr. Todd, Eastlake J High. I remember the movie "How the West was won" Theme same🎼 Depictions of Saint Patrick in green majestic robe on 3/17/--
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
Saint Paddy had Greensleeves? What do you mean?
@mirjanabosnic694 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Although from Reneicansse, accords to a modern time. I listened in various arrangements. Certainly that Olivia Newton John had sung marvelous, but text is for a man in love. So, love most bariton to sings. Obliged music literatura, translated on Serbian, for 4th class primary schools
@theyamahabiker12194 ай бұрын
OMG I thought it was just me It pulls me in in like a strange feeling I get in my soul when I hear this song I can't explain it it just stops me dead in my tracks and captivates me it's the only thing on this earth that has the power to do this to me.
@edwardhanson3664 Жыл бұрын
'Greensleeves' had to be a troubadour song from the golden age of Troubadours, as was 'The Blackest Crow', when troubadours composed great songs to ladies of the courts proclaiming their undying love for them.
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
The troubadours were active from the late 11th century to the end of the 13th century and wrote in Occitan. There is no evidence for the musical form of Greensleeves (passamezzo antico and romanesca) until the 16th century and no evidence of the song itself until 1580, and it is in English. Sure, Greensleeves is on a well-worn theme beloved of the troubadours - I am in love with her, she isn't interested, I'm heart-broken - but it clearly isn't from the troubadour era nor is it a troubadour song.
@jol43423 ай бұрын
I have always been enchanted by the song. I just love it.
@bepkororoti2559 Жыл бұрын
enchanting tune, timeless...played it around europe as a street musician on violin, people loved it
@jamesdoughty80863 жыл бұрын
Wow...glad I hung around till the end. My nieces and nephs will now learn a new dance.
@IPMusic3 жыл бұрын
James, if you want the whole dance, you'll find it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrN4ns6KvNilYac.html
@jamesdoughty80863 жыл бұрын
@@IPMusic thanx
@FlightyAngels5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. My children and I found your articles concerning this song and it's history for my home school lessons today. Your articles were very good because we were able to use the logical reasoning to look at things in headlines today. Interesting how your very well written articles could be used to focus on other areas of the world today. It took up 3 hours of lesson period, but we enjoyed the whole lesson and the videos as well. Thank you again. I knew it was not a song by King Henry VIII, but I found an old poetry book somewhere buried in a library in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma that credited the poem to Queen Elizabeth. It wasn't until I read another comment that it was attributed to Henry VIII, but it didn't make sense to me because Henry had died 30 years before then, and what little I knew of music it didn't fit the time period. Thank you again for this.
@IPMusic5 жыл бұрын
Lynne, it's so pleasing to know my articles and video have been used to such good effect. Thank you so much for posting and letting me know.
@davidstokes925Күн бұрын
❤Amazingly beautiful piece of music! Probably my favorite!❤
@Cam-cc2ft3 жыл бұрын
Something about your more serious voice saying “it’s a fantastic dance” over video of people kicking each other in the ass made me laugh, which is good. I needed pick me up after such a sad song Lol.
@1Bearsfan2 жыл бұрын
It is such a beautiful song. One of very few songs that brings tears to my eyes.
@johnny_pilot2 жыл бұрын
Well, kick my arse... I never knew all of this about Greensleeves! Thank you for this. (5 years too late, yet never too late!)
@youtuberuser68565 жыл бұрын
Your voice so amazing !
@IPMusic5 жыл бұрын
Well, thank you!
@bmikula1861 Жыл бұрын
My most beloved versions of Greensleeves. Thanks for the listen and the history.
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much.
@eleanorwilliams7694 жыл бұрын
Wow. One of my favorite songs has quite an interesting history to it.
@martinb60654 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing up the air on this one.
@IPMusic4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Martin. You're very welcome.
@Worldclass_64 жыл бұрын
This is amazing and I really appreciate the first part where you show the content of the video.
@IPMusic4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Damian. In the description there are links to three articles covering this in detail, if you'd like to know more.
@scartissue1214 жыл бұрын
People like more extravagant myths and stories at face value, but its important that information compiled like this is present I'm going to learn this piece but I was keen to know its true history so I have better context for my interpretation of the piece Thanks for uploading 🙂
@Sanas4909 ай бұрын
I think it is the best performance of this song. And it is with the male voice as it should be.
@williamstanziano6148 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for doing and compiling this research. I really fell in love with Greensleeves after hearing Neil Young perform it on a live album.
@IPMusic8 ай бұрын
Thank you, William. On this page earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves3of3music/ you'll find the third of three articles about the song, which is simply a list of links of different versions, including Neil Young's. All the best. Ian
@rajkul53824 жыл бұрын
My favorite song❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@leticiahelenasilva85242 жыл бұрын
I always hear this song looking for the sky in dark night , sky with much stars , ask me where was my true love ❤️
@aniellord70882 жыл бұрын
I do the same before! I even don't know the lyrics back then and only listen to the instrumental version. But when I heard the lyrics, it gives so much meaning and makes me want to stare to the moon all night.
@davidbouvier88958 ай бұрын
I recall a musicologist years ago claiming that this is not a love song to be played at the languid tempo it is usually played at these days but is a rather satirical song (check out the lyrics) deploring an expensive investment in a mistress that didn't pay off because she nonetheless ditched the guy despite all his expensive presents. So it should be played in a more sprightly manner. Makes sense to me.
@IPMusic8 ай бұрын
That's one of the great things about song: that is always a range of interpretations. 5 verses of 'Why don't you want me, babe? Look at all the gear I have and the gifts I sent you! Why don't you love me?!' may be seen as rather sad, but 18 verses possibly comedic. On the other hand, this was a broadside, and broadsides were typically very long to fill the broadsheet and give the customers value for money, so there's nothing unusual in its length. It's also worth noting that medieval and renaissance love songs were almost always unrequited, usually on the theme of the lovesick man pining after the woman who either doesn't want to know or doesn't even know of his existence, so Greensleeves is very much in that tradition, albeit with a particularly uncomprehending man who sees she's not interested but still keeps on and on!
@amusicment48292 жыл бұрын
This is great, answered lots of questions , Thank you!
@IPMusic2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you!
@mariadedinszky5707 Жыл бұрын
Köszönöm szépen! Nagyon szeretem a középkori magyar zenét és most megtudhattam e gyönyörűszéges dalnak a történelmét! 💞💞
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
Köszönöm, Maria.
@syourke38 ай бұрын
Excellent! Thank you!
@12thDecember5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I have always loved the melody and words to Greensleeves and was dismayed by the rumors that it was supposedly written for a prostitute or a casual intimate partner. I couldn't understand how such lovely heart-touching words could be written for anyone other than a genuine unrequited love. This is why it has resonated for centuries. Your rendition of it is enchanting.
@IPMusic5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, 12th December. Greensleeves follows in a long line of songs with a man complaining he's given all to a woman and she still won't love him, all the way back to the medieval troubadours and their international counterparts. Since Greensleeves first appeared as a broadside ballad, and was written in this well-established tradition, it's quite unlikely that it was written with any one woman in mind, but rather as a commercially-viable song to sell on a familiar theme, not so different to pop song-writers today looking for a hit that will get people singing.
@Jabberstax2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this.
@coolestwatermeloon55322 жыл бұрын
whenever me and my friends hear it we'd get reminded of school and exams, like ptsd it's such a pity how school had ruined such a beautiful song for me :( (they play a very scuffed version of the song too)
@IPMusic2 жыл бұрын
School and exams? How so?
@41_balisingh204 жыл бұрын
You are awesome man..
@IPMusic4 жыл бұрын
Well, thank you!
@Allyourbase1990 Жыл бұрын
Idk why but the way this song is written and composed it makes me have really strong feelings lol . Idk why but this song just seems so sad
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
It is a very sad song. A man is throwing all of his considerable wealth at a woman so she will love him - and she won't. He just doesn't get that being loved isn't about being impressed by money. That's sad.
@Gelsenbury2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and instructive, thank you. Greensleeves was one of the first songs I learnt to play. I'd heard that some had attributed it to Henry VIII, but you have dispelled that myth. Do you happen to know whether "Pastime with good company" has any more realistic chance of being a Henry VIII composition?
@IPMusic2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Gelsenbury. 'Pastyme with good companye' is in the Henry VIII manuscript, British Museum Add. MS 31922, a hand-written book compiled c.1510-22 to reflect music-making in the royal court at the time of Henry’s marriage to Catherine of Aragón, his wife from 1509 until the dissolution of the marriage in 1533. The manuscript includes other well-known pieces such as 'A Robyn, gentil Robyn' by William Cornysh the Younger, Master of the Children of the Chapel Royal, responsible for the musical and dramatic entertainments at court, conducting the choir, composing music for services, and staging entertainments at court for important diplomatic events. While there is no evidence Henry ever saw the Henry VIII manuscript, 20 songs and 13 instrumental pieces bear his name, “The Kynge H”, including 'Pastyme', and this can only mean he was the composer. The book does not, of course, include 'Greensleeves'!
@Gelsenbury2 жыл бұрын
@@IPMusic Amazing, thank you! Coincidentally, I'm practising "Robin, gentle robin" at the moment. I didn't know that the songs were from the same collection.
@Happy_HIbiscus5 жыл бұрын
dude, this is cool
@lisariggs8947 Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for sharing this very informative presentation. I never had any information about it before. It was my mother's favorite, so I tried my best to play it on the piano for her, she passed away last June and I know she would have liked this alot 👍💕🐈😁
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Lisa. That's a very moving message.
@stevesmith13722 жыл бұрын
Do like this music! Makes my mind wonder 🤔? Love it
@palmamingozzi57362 жыл бұрын
So Beautiful.
@Hopewell51 Жыл бұрын
When I was in the sixth grade our history textbook actually said the song was written about money. Looking back I don't think it was but I remember my textbook saying this song was about money
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
There is certainly a lot of money in the song: the extremely wealthy narrator tells us about all the money he's spent on a woman, and still she won't love him. I think he has the wrong idea about love, so it's difficult not to side with the woman. So we could say the song is about both money and a very skewed idea of love.
@mishapurser4439 Жыл бұрын
One of the earliest names of Greensleeves was "A Newe Northen Dittye of ye Ladye Greene Sleves", which implies that the tune may have had its origins in northern England. What are your thoughts on that?
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
Hello, Misha. That's a good question. Broadside ballads - of which 'Greensleeves' is an example - had long and often elborate titles, but were known by popularly by an abbreviated form, 'A Newe Northen Dittye of ye Ladye Greene Sleves' = 'Greensleeves' being such an example. It's impossible to know now whether Greenesleeves really did have a northern origin and whether northern meant northern England or, as it usually did, Scotland. There was a fashion for writing 'Scotch' or 'northern' songs, as if there were Scottish, but which were actually written by those employed to pen ballad verses for London publishers. A good example that explains itself in the title is a broadside printed some time between 1624 and 1680, 'The lovely Northerne Lass, Who in this ditty here complaining, shewes What harme she got milking her dadyes Ewes. To a pleasant Scotch tune, called, The broome of Cowdon knowes.'
@maxpower13375 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@IPMusic5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. :-)
@michaelandersson1904 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome.
@gulmerton27583 жыл бұрын
Yeah, very classy the kick ass dance!
@bidalaska34574 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@oakywood95093 жыл бұрын
It's a fantastic dance 😁😁
@dionweerasinghe48966 ай бұрын
Anymore than than me standing in a garage makes me a car😂😂😂😂😂
@Beery19622 жыл бұрын
How many verses did the oldest surviving sheet music have? I've seen a number of different versions of the song, even one with 18 verses (where the man sings of all the various things he bought her and how he had servants look after her). Since words have been changed and verses have been removed (and perhaps added) as the centuries have gone by, it would be nice to know what the original words were.
@IPMusic2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Prometheus. As I state in this article, earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/ we don't have a copy of the original broadside of 1580, but they're very likely the same words as in A Handful of Pleasant Delights, 1584, which has, as you say, 18 verses. (The article gives some of the verses and a summary of the rest.)
@davidshenton56162 жыл бұрын
I have in my Joan Baez LP's a Christmas carol version, called " what child is this"
@IPMusic2 жыл бұрын
You'll find that, and many other versions of Greensleeves, collected on this page: earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves3of3music/
@darkgirl55352 жыл бұрын
I thought i was the only one hearing" what child is this " in this song😂... I was mashing it with this song
@premtaravalentinalanfranch97066 жыл бұрын
Oh my lol... why kicking each other's asses on these notes? That's a curious dance to associate to the song 😄
@vivian49493 жыл бұрын
I truly don't feel that Henry the VIII could compose anything, this is the 1st time I've heard the lyrics, only ever heard the music itself till tonight.
@IPMusic3 жыл бұрын
Henry VIII certainly was a composer. His verses were the standard romantic poetry of the time, his music was good. Being a prince, he had the best of everything, including music tuition. He didn't compose Greensleeves, though.
@nightshade56366 жыл бұрын
Where can I find your version of this song. It's very beautiful.
@IPMusic6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I do have CDs available at www.ipmusic.org.uk but my version of Greensleeves isn't on them. It was recorded specially for the folk music programme, Gentle Folk 2, as was the interview, and then included in this video.
@troyalcorn1184 Жыл бұрын
Chicken or egg came first? "Greensleeves", or "Who's Child is This?". Which one exsisted first?
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
It really isn't a chicken and egg situation, Troy. 'Greensleeves' was registered as a broadside ballad in 1580. 'What Child Is This' was a poem by English poet and lay theologian William Chatterton Dix, originally called 'The Manger Throne', written in 1865. It was set by John Stainer to 'Greensleeves' in 1871. That's a three century gap.
@sayville_silver Жыл бұрын
So.. you didnt really say why King Henry couldn't have written it. It's a song older than we know, that's why its been redone so many times. It's a known tune. The tune came from somewhere. Just because the older paper is from 1580 doesnt mean it couldn't have been traditional for years before that.
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
Philip, I explain in great detail why Henry couldn't have written it in the article that goes with the video - see earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/ Your objection isn’t cogent. “It's a song older than we know, that's why its been redone so many times.” The first clause in that statement is self-defeating: how can it be older than we know? If we have a date for it and no earlier evidence, as is the case, then we have evidence for how old it is. The second clause is written as if it follows from the first, but “It's a song older than we know” has no logical connection to “that's why its been redone so many times.” Your next sentences - “It's a known tune. The tune came from somewhere.” - are statements of the obvious and do not present either a logical argument or any evidence of authorship. “Just because the older paper is from 1580 doesnt mean it couldn't have been traditional for years before that.” I think by “the older paper” you must mean the broadside ballad of that year. If it was “traditional for years before that” then there must be evidence for it. There is none. In short, the language of 1580 is very different to the language of Henry's reign, and Greensleeves is in the language of 1580. Most fundamentally, any claim - and I mean any claim about anything - is baseless and to be dismissed unless evidence is provided. There is no evidence of Greensleeves before 1580, and Henry died in 1547. If someone is still to claim that Henry wrote it, or that it is older than 1580 (which is not necessarily the same claim), they must then provide evidence that this is so. No one has so far presented any evidence. If you have some evidence, I'll be glad to follow up the reference.
@MaiLe-gb9yl6 жыл бұрын
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@amj.composer Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered, is the 6th degree originally sharp in this piece?
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
Hello, Aryaman. Greensleeves is in the dorian mode, with a finalis of D so, pitched like that, the 6th degree is B. (I know from your question that you know this - I'm explaining for anyone else interested who might read the comments.) In the verses, the 6th degree is natural, in the chorus it is sharpened according to the original music. You'll find an explanation to the background of the Greensleeves music here: earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves2of3history/ Ian
@amj.composer Жыл бұрын
@@IPMusic Interesting, thank you very much!!
@morgansmith73654 жыл бұрын
Green sleeves was written for not by Henry v111 as a gift and yes it is about Anne boleyn. He kept it privately throughout the rest of his life, and it wasnt published until 1580 long after his death.
@IPMusic4 жыл бұрын
Morgan, please show the evidence for that statement. Where is the manuscript source in Henry's hand for the song? Where is the historical reference to Henry writing the song? Where is the evidence that Henry wrote this and kept it private? What would the reason be for a king to keep a song private about the woman he was publicly marrying, when a collection of his songs was already in existence and no secret? Where is the evidence that links this song in any way to Anne Boleyn? For what reason would a royally written song first appear not in a grand manuscript but in a cheap broadside ballad 47 years after his marriage to Anne Boleyn and 33 years after his death, with no evidence of its existence before it was a broadside? My article linked to here explains why there is absolutely no historical source that connects the song to Henry VIII or Anne Boleyn or substantiates the entirely modern myth you are repeating. earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/
@morgansmith73654 жыл бұрын
I did not say it was written by him, I said it was composed for him and given as a gift, if you listen to some of the interviews for the anne boleyn files they talk about it. Also, its recorded that she wore an elaborate green dress to court and it was one of his favorite dresses of hers.
@IPMusic4 жыл бұрын
@morgan smith, the statement that Greensleeves was written for Henry VIII requires evidence. My previous comment stated what that evidence might be, and you have not addressed this. There is no evidence at all of the song before 1580. If you have any historical documentation that shows otherwise, you should state what it is. It would ground-breaking, as no one else has seen it. Look at all the renaissance women wearing green dresses in this article: earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/ A reference to Boleyn wearing a green dress proves precisely nothing (so the historical source, if indeed there really is one, doesn't matter). There is no more evidence of Greensleeves being written for any one of the women in the article than for Anne Boleyn. In that article you'll also find chapter and verse on why none of the mythology about Greensleeves is based on even a hint of evidence. The following article earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves2of3history/ shows what the real evidence is. Nothing in Greensleeves ties it to a real historical person. Historical veracity means relying on evidence, not hanging on to baseless mythology regardless of the evidence. So I ask again: if you have any historical documentation that links Greensleeves in any way whatever to Henry VIII, or that the song existed in any form before 1580, you should state what it is.
@IPMusic4 жыл бұрын
@@morgansmith7365, I'm confused. I've checked the website you suggest www.theanneboleynfiles.com/resources/anne-boleyn-words/anne-boleyn-songs/ The source you cite confirms that Greensleeves has no connection with Henry VIII.
@ellenyoung82832 жыл бұрын
@@IPMusic Henry was known to secret private matters, also his minister Cromwell. Anne Boleyn Tower letter was said to be amongst Cromwell private papers, discovered upon his death. So much is missing or lost in the passing of time. If this song was indeed written for Henry, I could see his enormous ego keeping it private. I do feel this haunting song does capture Henry's feelings for Anne B. early on. A musical mystery.
@janicerook89122 жыл бұрын
In summer, trees wear greensleeves.......
@johnslaughter5475 Жыл бұрын
I love this song. My favorite is done by Celtic Ladies. I'd dearly love to hear all 18 verses. My daughter has a beautiful voice but won't sing it even though I have all the lyrics.
@Beautiful_Evil Жыл бұрын
All these new crazy hip-hop dance moves these days, and just think... 400 years ago they were kicking each other's ass... I was reading an article the other day on how anesthesia was invented, funny enough it was a guy that was reading a news article on how some kids were huffing ether back in early 1800s and it prompted him to try it and that's basically how anesthesia was invented. Wow kids in the 2000's eating tide pods and kids in the 1800s huffing ether... my my, people( really haven't changed much have they? Lol.
@monsettaroco34816 жыл бұрын
According to historians, the Greensleeves term in medieval England didn't meant the green color of the sleeves but rather as a grass marks on the women's sleeves, showing what she just did with a man in a hirst.
@IPMusic6 жыл бұрын
This is partially right, Adi. In other words, what you suggest is correct for some songs, such as Gown of Green, where green is clearly a euphemism, but not universally true of all songs which mention green clothing, and certainly not true of Greensleeves. Indeed, this view as applied to Greensleeves has led to a lot of other, equally unsubstantiated and erroneous claims about the song. Also, Greensleeves is renaissance and Gown of Green and euphemistic songs of their kind are baroque, so neither are medieval. For the details, see: earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/
@monsettaroco34816 жыл бұрын
Hi, According to Meg Lota Brown and Kari Boyd McBride, in the book "Women's Roles in the Renaissance", Lady Green Sleeves was a prostitute (but only perhaps) because the phrase "a green gown" (grass marks), at that time, had sexual connotations.
@IPMusic6 жыл бұрын
Adi, Brown and McBride are demonstrably wrong. A green gown did have sexual connotations in *later* songs and poems: there is no evidence of this idea in the 16th century, when Greensleeves was written, besides which Lady Greensleeves has green *sleeves*, not a green gown and, in terms of the wording of the allusion, this is critical. There is also absolutely no evidence that renaissance prostitutes wore green: this is a modern and spurious invention. There are no examples of the green gown allusion referencing prostitution: it refers exclusively to pregnancy, green meaning both a roll in a grass (perhaps) and fertility (certainly). For the detailed evidence, see: earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/
@ABAlphaBeta4 жыл бұрын
Another interesting theory is that the green could be from "rolling in the hay", as it was. Really great performance! An interesting version could also be to pronounce in the original Late Middle English phonology
@IPMusic4 жыл бұрын
The "rolling in the hay" idea is appropriate for some songs, but certainly not for Greensleeves, as I explain in detail in the article here: earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/ I address this in my reply to Adi Nerona in the comments on this page. Middle English wouldn't be appropriate for a song from 1580 onwards, as no one spoke it by then. At 6.57 in your Evolution of Music video you use a version of 'Mirie it is' I posted, interpreted from the original manuscript. I removed the version you use from KZfaq in September 2018 and replaced it with an amended and, I believe, more accurate rendering of what the manuscript says. You'll find that here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bK6YrNR13afRiHk.html and the explanation of my workings out here earlymusicmuse.com/mirie-it-is-while-sumer-ilast/ I'd be grateful if you'd amend the video with my amended version and this time credit me.
@ABAlphaBeta4 жыл бұрын
@@IPMusic It's quite hard to amend the video ever since the removal of prompts in the middle of videos allowing corrections, but I have added your new version in the top comment and credited you both there and in the description. Really sorry for not crediting you the first time - I shall correct that at once! And thank you for the links
@ABAlphaBeta4 жыл бұрын
@@IPMusic I had been thinking of making more such music-based videos, I'd be happy to link to yours (with your permission) in those too. I did post a "community message", which often reaches a few thousand people (certainly most of my active subscribers) with a link to your new video yesterday, but it didn't get much traction. I'd also be happy to collaborate with you on a video discussing medieval music, if you'll forgive me, and redirect everyone to your channel (which I will do my utmost to do anyway)! I'd also like to reassure you that the video is not monetised on my end, and that the various artists have done the fair thing and claimed it and make money off of it, as I had intended in the first place - would there be any way for you to make a copyright claim? It would be very unfair for you to get no traction or ad revenue from me using your work (unauthorised! I was younger and even more foolish) after all. Warm regards and sorry again!
@IPMusic4 жыл бұрын
@@ABAlphaBeta, thank you for your reply, which I very much appreciate. I don't monetise any of my videos as I find adverts before videos - and sometimes even in the middle of them! - really annoying. There's also the fact that I wouldn't have a say on who advertises on my videos, and I certainly wouldn't want to be associated with some advertisers. Thank you for the links - acknowledgement of sources and permission where appropriate is always good practice.
@kingsuperbus46176 жыл бұрын
Is this accurate.
@IPMusic6 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is all accurate and evidenced at earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/ and earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves2of3history/
@salloschiavo4193 Жыл бұрын
...who was the ruling monarch 👸 in England 🏴 in 1580? ...who was that monarchs parents 👩❤️💋👨? ...the song 🎵 was submitted anonymously 💚 ...just saying ???
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
Sal, Greensleeves was a broadside ballad. It wasn’t ‘submitted’: it was written by a ballad monger, as nearly all broadsides were, the exceptions being songs from the stage. Are you really, seriously, truly, actually meaning to suggest that Queen Elizabeth I *secretly* submitted a song by her father to be published as a broadside ballad to be sold in the street, decades after his death?! And without having his name on it?! What, pray tell, is your evidence for that?! Indeed, what is your evidence that Henry VIII has any connection whatsoever with Greensleeves?
@salloschiavo4193 Жыл бұрын
...I did not say there was any evidence to this...just a possible suggestion ... Some have said it was impossible for him to have written this song ...but it still is in the realm of possibilities based on the fact that their daughter was the Queen during that time period and we do know that Henry VIII loved music and loved writing music as well and some of the words to this song do fit their relationship ...once again just saying
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
@@salloschiavo4193 "I did not say there was any evidence to this". So nothing more needs to be said or can be said of any consequence.
@Sleepy01732 жыл бұрын
Hey now that I think about it, the lyrics that everybody knows them by.... aren't they pretty modern English? Is this how those lyrics really sounded 500 years ago?
@IPMusic2 жыл бұрын
What the words were and how they were pronounced in the late 16th century are two different questions. The words in the video are the original words, as you can see here: earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/
@omarr.dasilva95303 жыл бұрын
amo esta musica desde que ouvi nos muppets .. i love thim music after , sound em muppets show ..
@IPMusic3 жыл бұрын
Hello, Omar. I don't recall Greensleeves being on The Muppets. I have looked online and can't find it, alas. Have you seen The Muppets' Ode to Joy? Genius! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jNSEatOFm-Cnk3U.html
@jessewilson86762 жыл бұрын
Maybe it is a “bootstrap paradox “. ?
@IPMusic2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the historical evidence for Henry VIII being a time-traveller! :-)
@davidmiller94854 жыл бұрын
NO the first time a "patent" was taken on greensleeves was 1850. It was around longer than that. www.medievalchronicles.com/medieval-history/greensleeves/
@IPMusic4 жыл бұрын
You have used a copied version of my own work to try and correct me. No one can take out a patent on music. I think you must mean the entry in the stationer's register. And 1850? I think you must mean 1580, David. There is no evidence of the song before 1580 (if that is what you mean). It may have been written a little before 1580 (1579, etc.), but if we're going to rely on evidence rather than repeated hearsay, 1580 is our earliest date. No mention whatever of the song before then, so if we're going to claim a date much earlier than that, we have to account for there being ample evidence of the song in and after 1580 and zero evidence before then. Stories of the song being around before are demonstrably false, as I show in the article here: earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/ I have had correspondence with Medieval Chronicles in 2015 due to the inaccuracy of their articles, even on the basics of when the medieval period was. I declined when the website owner asked me to go through his music articles and correct them - it's not my site. (Articles on other topics similarly still need serious corrections.) On this occasion you're citing a Medieval Chronicles page where the Greensleeves article is clearly cribbed entirely from mine (link just given), but without acknowledgement or permission.
@SullyDunn10 ай бұрын
Great video who tf wrote this song that’s what I was wondering 😂 lmao
@IPMusic10 ай бұрын
Thank you. The best answer we have is: an anonymous broadside ballad writer.
@SullyDunn10 ай бұрын
@@IPMusic haha thanks and that cover in the middle of the video was a great performance.
@MaryButlerBuilding_to_live9 ай бұрын
not one person sings all nine course!!!!! :(
@IPMusic9 ай бұрын
Mary, I'm not sure I understand. A course is the word used for strings in unison or in octaves on a lute. If you mean 9 verses, there are 18 verses. I'm not surprised no one sings all 18 verses. Perhaps that's a video for you to make, if you're a singer.
@morgang56662 ай бұрын
The green impies grass stains from being on knees or all fours. Not wearing green.
@IPMusic2 ай бұрын
You'd get green *sleeves* from having your *knees* on the grass? That's a magic trick worthy of Penn and Teller! To see the 'grass stains' myth and the other modern myths about Greensleeves debunked with historical evidence, see earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/ To read the verifiable facts, see earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves2of3history/
@morgang56662 ай бұрын
@IPMusic Sleeves in medeival times simply referred to loose clothing, not how we see sleeves today.
@IPMusic2 ай бұрын
No, sleeves were sleeves, but detachable. The word 'sleeves' has never referred to any item of clothing as long as it is loose. A loose hat has never been called a sleeve! Greensleeves isn't a medieval song, it's high renaissance, then it had a long history through the baroque period. I have backed up all my commentary about the song with historical references in this article: earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/ If you're to claim that a sleeve was any item of loose clothing, that Greensleeves was medieval, and that the green referred to grass stains, that needs to be backed up by historical references. Please refer to any part of the song that justifies your claims. Please read the article and state anything you have contrary evidence for.
@helenfedortsova34623 жыл бұрын
Why do you say it's not true Henry VIII has written "Greensleeves" for Anne Boleyn? Elizabeth I just kept it secretly. Don't you know?
@IPMusic3 жыл бұрын
Hello, Helen. I'm not entirely sure if you're tongue in cheek or serious. If I take your comment seriously, please give just a single piece of historical evidence that: (a) Henry VIII wrote Greensleeves, when there is no evidence of it before 1580 and Henry died in 1547; (b) Elizabeth I kept the song secretly, which is not documented anywhere, and then, most strange behaviour for a monarch, she gave it for publication to a broadside seller in 1580 without attaching either her name or her father's name to it. Have a read of my articles here earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/ and here earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves2of3history/ and tell me which historical sources I've missed.
@ellenyoung82832 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth was indeed a very secretive woman, many times by necessity, particularly where her mother was concerned. She wore an elaborate pinky ring her entire reign which concealed a portrait of her and reportedly her mother, Anne Boleyn. She also had an extensive spy network at her command. So, yes, Elizabeth had a secretive nature.
@IPMusic2 жыл бұрын
If Elizabeth had a secretive nature, that gives no information whatever about Greensleeves, written long after Henry was dead.
@Raveyl Жыл бұрын
He was long dead by the time it was a song, but that doesn't mean Henry VIII couldn't have composed the actual lyrics, or anyone else living then or in an earlier time, and others put it to music later. However, I believe Henry like to credit for all of his work, and wouldn't have let this gem slip away without his name attached. The song was first published as "A Newe Northern Dittye", meaning it was most likely composed in the north of England, or probably Scotland. Then again, that could have been a lie if the author preferred to remain anonymous, or was intentionally miscredited. There's really no way to know who the original author is, but whoever they were, I hope they stopped trying to buy women and found real love.
@IPMusic Жыл бұрын
Rave, you put forward theories without any supporting evidence, based on the foregone conclusion that Henry was the author. Real evidence does not lead to foregone conclusions. For Henry's authorship there is not a single piece of evidence, and everything is to the contrary. There is no evidence of the words before 1580. For further explanation of these points, see earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/
@beatapogorzelska12418 ай бұрын
The song of a simp but whatever, a nice one.
@IPMusic8 ай бұрын
Hahahaha! Yes, it *is* the song of a simp who just can't believe she isn't impressed.