LH I travelled around Fiji this summer and our tour guide took us snorkelling to a place he’d heard was good (we couldn’t go to the original planned place because the currents had changed or smthing idk). Anyway we got there and not only was all the coral dead, but the surrounding sea was completely littered (the location was pretty close to the main shore), and yes there were definitely a noticeable amount of Fiji bottles. We theorised they were left by tourists who wanted the Fiji bottle for their Sc story or whatever. Anyway, since then I’ve started telling all my friends to stop buying Fiji water (and all plastic bottles) because of the massive green footprint it leaves getting to the U.K.

@@ailish3012 yes the coral bleaching is just another problem! I'm a diver myself and being around the reefs since I was little, there definitely have been some major changes in the last few years! :( The littering however is really a problem the locals contribute to, civic responsibility and education is lacking for sure. But then again, there wouldn't be bottles to throw if the big companies weren't churning them out to begin with! It's a really tricky one.

I went there last year and you took the words directly out of my mouth.

No water that is shipped half around the world is anything but green. This kind of marketing is a shame.

@@krollpeter I simply can't imagine how dumb one must be to believe this bullshit marketing. Mankind is fucked beyond repair indeed.

pure greed and evil marketing in a nutshell

If you mean irony then yes

no silly, it's done by only women

@@prod.hxrford3896 lol

It's not paradoxical, it is just untrue.

It's all of Australia

That sounds like a very bad idea. Some thing's are more energy efficient and eco-friendly by using plastic.

Lili Koch really that’s amazing

12kenbutsuri 😑

@@poppyrose1549 It is not all of Australia, just Tasmania

Not everyone can drink tap water, here in Dominican Republic is not safe enough to drink at least you have a water filter, and most people don't have it cause it's expensive

Idle Sun That’s why I said do what you can

@@idlesun1645 If you can't safely drink tap water don't! The problem arises when people have access to perfecly safe tap water but still buy the damn bottled water. The money spent in useless bottled water could be spent to build modern infrastuctures in developing countries so everyone can have access to clean tap water.

That’s good advice if you want to destroy your home economy, and therefor increase poverty and reduce your country’s ability to send aid to developing nations.

>drink tap water NO. and if you have to, get a filter. We don't know what pollution is in the water. and Aluminum Fluoride is literal poison at this point. Look for better sources of water beyond a bottle or tap.

it's just a fancy way of saying it's bottled automatically by a machine

Thank you! Same thing I thought! Like what? Are they dipping bottles in lakes and selling them? Are their bottles not filtered? Otherwise saying not touched by humans was funny as hell to hear!

not touched by man because only girls are allowed to work there

I know the comment above is a joke but that offends some people since man can also include females

Its true mec !

As in, "They are crowded together so tightly placing cages would decrease space" cage-free.

As in, never seen the sun in their life and packed so tightly they cant even stand.

As in, “we don’t train our chickens to be MMA fighters and put them in a cage.”

Artisan and artesian aren’t the same thing.

more like Apple effect to me, its expensive which is why people buy

My military canteen from the army surplus shop also has visually appealing "packaging". And its more durable than the current faddish water bottle of the year.

This is true.

Who buys it for the packaging? I buy it because of the taste

@christine h we have stopped developing then.The people of fiji dont even have proper houses and roads.

And I tot Fiji was a tropical paradise wonderland :(

@@huanghuang9815 depends where u go. If you want ignore that then go to the resorts. Highly recommend Warwick resort

Macron

Get out of here boi if you think you gonna say that to fijians, I don't take jokes!

Actually, not a Canadian, but the Wonderful company, a *_American_* company.

If the company operates in Fiji then it will be contributing to the economy

@@alexgeelayyy yeah the question is how much arrives at the 47%

He should be sanctioned duck that guy

cheap.

Lol

They are like 69 pence in England lol

@@ncxc-gn6bw 3€ in Germany

I cant afford bottled water

They employ women, underpay them so its basically untouched by man.

LOL

😂

yes! that's exactly what I'm thinking, this is what they meant, it's impossible being a good person nowdays

@@idlesun1645 it's possible, you just need to really look thoroughly into everything you do and buy

@@salmourn7316 yeah... I don't think i can do that. All that time spent in buying ethical products take time out of study, work and growth, the things that matter the most to me

@@idlesun1645 true. i think sudden change isn't the right direction but you could start small. gradually make more small changes n what not.

I have too or else I will have too taste the BAD water. We have bad tasting water dipshit.

@@tritonvid9680 you can get a filter or get a water bottle and get some water from the drinking fountains

@@tritonvid9680 no need to insult you know?

It can't be helped. Some people don't have water at home. People in flint use it to wash in.

i only buy it when i'm out. At my home i could just boil my tap water.

I know right. It's so annoying.

it doesn't make any sense :/

They sell those thicker reusable plastic and poly bags though. Which most customers use once, or only a few times. Far less than the number of times needed to make up for the energy and resources used to manufacture it. :/

They don’t provide plastic bags at all?

Where I live we just bottle tap water, I only buy bottle water if I really have to but most times I just keep my reusable water bottle on hand.

Depending where you live city water might not be the safest to drink. Flint Michigan for example.

does using fridge water dispenser count as filtered tap water?

Exactly!

Apocalyptic my fridge has a light telling you to replace the filter so I think so, tho it may just be a really basic filter

but wait.... its *green* plastic!

GREEN cartons! xD

In the faucet

Cartons can be more water and energy intensive than plastics. Just reuse your plastic bottles rather than buying new ones, they last for hundreds of years, no need to keep buying more. Can't be said for the cartons. 'buying less' is usually the real solution

Something i wish would happen but likely wouldnt is that the government banned all forms of temporary products. If you want water, bring a permanent water bottle and fill it up at a water dispenser. If you're hungry and want to eat on the go, bring along ur lunchbox and have them fill it for you, go to the store and bring ur own bag. This will likely never happen because people are lazy and in the end companies want money

@@ZectonplaysMC well, to be fair, plastic bags are now being charged for in most European supermarkets, incentivicing people to bring their own bags. Most soda bottles were glass in the past, and recycled by the manufacturers, so don't count it out yet. The straw ban is stupid but has the right mindset. Things may seem grim in America, but the rest of the world is seriously considering these things and making progress.

"...but when people must buy products why not choose one that is more sustainable than its counterparts?" It seems like the main point of the video was about doing research about the products you buy and "buying intentionally", as in actually knowing what goes on with the process behind the products that are bought. Which is part of what you are saying too. It seems to me that what you are saying isn't opposed to what the video is saying.

@@JavadLuckey Thanks for this reply. I definitely think the video aligns with what @Keon Monroe is saying. Companies are putting "green" imagery on products without actually changing production processes. He says buy intentionally because by properly choosing the best option when we have to buy products we can steer markets toward more environmentally friendly processes. So yes it is definitely worth investing in these markets and changing the model, but the change should be logistic and not simply brand perception.

Matias Grioni Or just.... start realizing how capitalism has been damaging to this planet ...

Capitalism

if you think a capitalistic free market will course correct on a large enough scale in favor of losing profits for the sake of leaving natural resources unexploited youre deluding yourself

I used to think that The Body Shop is not testing on animals but then I realized that they're under L'Oréal and they conduct animal testing :/ I'm not sure how exactly things are going down at The Body Shop but I just think it's a little shady which is a shame, really

"ethical farms, never testing on animals.. ban animal testing" Those things have nothing to do with sustainability.

@Beard Cheese I am by no means against animal testing! It's an useful way of finding out if ingredients are safe and it's essential for innovations in medicine. But if it can be avoided by using alternative methods, there's no harm, right?

Beard Cheese There is no need to when there is alternative methods available, their competitor Lush tests on willing human volunteers, i understand animal testing things of a more serious medical nature when scientists are say, trying to develop a new cure for something but as far as creams go company’s know what needs to go into them already for the most part so animal testing probably could be avoided.

Kim Taehyung * off topic *

Same

Please call it the "Fiji water" company not Fiji. Fiji is the country they get the water from.

It’s even worse: everything eatable is “made with real food”, even if it’s 100% lab made.

Why? Just because it is not natural, doesn't mean it is bad. And just because something is natural, doesn't make it good.

Exactly! I was looking for this in the comments. Funny how a greenwashing video got greenwashed.

Could you elaborate this? I don’t see how organically grown vegetables increase our industrial footprint compared to non-organically grown vegetables.

Pesticides pollute a lot though

That really depends on the country, rules for what counts as organic, the products we're talking about, the way you measure 'green', etcetera. They don't always take all the harmful effects of pesticides into account, for example.

See the problem with your statement is that you have nothing to back it up, so it's just so hard to believe you when no facts are presented

Free lacrim

Preach!

Now this is some seriously misleading (and potentially dangerous) advice. Not everything can be sourced or bought locally, and yet there are things you and I need on an everyday basis. Sustainability isn't "binary", products from my local supermarket that are wrapped in recyclable paper or that don't contain microplastics are certainly more sustainable than such that are wrapped in square meters of plastics, contain microplastics and are being tested on animals. Don't make it so easy for people to say they have no choice.

Valid concern from you. Yet wrapping a product in paper doesn't make it "sustainable". A product is more than its packaging. It the whole sum of its production relations. So its not only the "end product" that dictates sustainability; rather the sum of all the processes it goes through its life cycle. It's not just about plastics. Also majority of people in reality don't really have a choice in these matters. Many don't have access to such alternative products; let alone simply having the means to afford the increased prices. Not everybody is "upper-middle class" mind you. Many will continue to not have this option in their repertoire unless alternative markets are supported by those who have the means to do so. There is an alternative consumers market in Paris which follows a popular trend that's on the rise nowadays. They sell sustainable products directly from local (national) non-industrial producers. Their model is so successful that mainstream producers and the markets they supply had to make changes to not lose eco-conscious customers. This alternative even had an effect on national legislation concerning agricultural processes. "Local" does not necessarily mean "immediate proximity". They have pretty much everything you would need apart from exotic produce. This can easily be surmounted with international partnerships across such cooperative alternatives. This is what I mean by my comment. Conscious consumerism is not only about picking the product with the right packaging. It's about making a statement with the way you consume things; the way you effect the chain of production relations from the end-user side of things. You cannot effectively do this by consuming products that are intended to be sold through mainstream outlets. Industrial producers dictate the relations there.

@@omerfurtun4115 I highly doubt the efficiency of "changing the market". Especially because of the dire situation we are in. Commodity production will always lead to unsustainable exploitation of the ecosystem. We have to abolish the form of the commodity itself and restructure society accordingly.

I agree. Yet for the premise of this video, the example of socio-economical movements such as the AMAP in France (the one I referred to when I was talking about Paris in my original post) are trying to achieve this change via rethinking production relations a commodity embodies. By changing the nature of these relations, they create some pockets of alternity to what we have today. Some academics classify them as the "new social movements" which try realizing their emancipative agendas via alternative economic activities and institutions.

recycling cost more than making new bottles

I'm from Fiji and what you just said it stupid. Just saying..

I was about to mention that as well. GMOs and non-organic farming techniques use less land, so they contribute to fewer emissions. Organic farming does not produce less carbon.

Was that a mistake?

How did that go?

Yeah

This is the first time i see someone saying to make something more clickbaity

That’s a stupid idea doing something annoying to combat something evil will probably push people against you people don’t like to be annoyed

Most Fijians have safe drinking water. I bet this guy has never been to Fiji.

Rodrigo All organic food is just food. A organic cheese puff? Still a cheese puff.

organic food is food that is produced and grown without pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers, etc. inorganic or non-organic food is the same thing, except that they use pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers, etc. when producing and growing the food. this mainly applies to fruits, vegetables, meat, milk, eggs (eggs?...eggs.), and some other foods (I don't know about cheese puffs tho lol) both methods have their pros and cons and both methods may or may not be the best for the environment, it just depends on what they use (example : natural ingredients or chemicals) (I know this was like 4 months ago but in case you didn't know, now you know, 4 months later)

It makes it seem like drinking fiji water is this natural thing that is so close to nature when in reality it isn't at all., You seem to have missed the point

@@jonathandpg6115 I definitely see your point.

@@_blank-_ and you're also polluting by typing and leaving this comment...(we all are

KING LIKER try using a VPN to access the articles might work

Actually I have found many sources stating that only 53% of fijians have clean drinking water (I'm in US)

Good on you is an app for ethical fashion

@@margaretf667 Thank you, I'll check it out!!

There is no "science-based" farming. There is farming that evidently pollutes the groundwater, uses carcinogenic chemicals, has their lobbyists convince the politicians that the former are completely harmless, uses up non-renewable resources for fertilizer, has a higher energy consumption and harms biodiversity, and there is farming that does the opposite.

@@MarianKeller Organic is not any less harmful to the environment though. That's what I think you completely misunderstood.

@@jonathandpg6115 Do you have any scientific evidence to back your claim up? Because the other side has a lot to back theirs up. I may clarify that I mean organic farming in compliance with EU regulations, so that may be different from what you refer to.

@F Karma That's why you wash your produce. If cleaned properly, you shouldn't be ingesting any pesticides.

slozor and honestly idk what they do there but Fiji is the best tasting water (as someone who avidly drinks bottled water) even if it’s not the best overall for some reason the ice cold Fiji is the best flavor

@@Justanothermusicnerdxo I prefer Voss but Fiji is awesome

Bottled waters have very few things to change taste

@@Justanothermusicnerdxo I never liked Fiji water. I always preferred Poland spring

Because it is not normal water! I'm from Fiji and I would know better

I would to some extent. But best thing is to drink tap water.

Of course

@@googleuser8656 just making sure! very glad to know that

Yes of course! The clothing industry uses a lot of water (for cotton), oil (for microfibers and material shipping), pollutes rivers with detergents and dyes and creates a lot of exploitive labour conditions, sometimes even child labour.

Same.

ty ty :)

It's literally just water. ._.

All bottled water is overpriced. Use your tap.

ZRgaming ok it IS overpriced and all other things said about it in this video are probably true but it really isn’t one of the worst, trust me :/

i don't know if you're joking or actually lacking brain cells

I see you color your world in black and white aswell xD

Under what theory is there ethical consumpton? Communism? Feudalism? Please tell us because there doesn't seem to be a better theory out there as far as I can tell

@@pbldiaz28 He is probably just a 17 year old who just learnt that word 😋

@@pbldiaz28 communism is inherently more ethical in terms of consumption since all production theoretically is worker owned and thus is not subject to exploitation through wage theft and unsafe work places. When profit is not a vocal point, you can build sustainable infrastructure. Rojova is going through this process right now.

buh buh buh buh have fun with your glorious communist future, just like venezuela and zimbabwe and the ussr and sino-communist china and cambodia and afghanistan and cuba im sure it'll work out just fine.

I've found that any spring water tastes good. It's Arrowhead and Crystal Geyser where I live, but it's probably different for you.

here in northern italy most waters come from the alps so they're all good

I used to think that all bottled water taste the same, but recently we changed our water to fiji for a year and switched back to a normal bottled water, it tasted different. Like more plastic(ish) taste.

@@tentifr oooooh. That sounds really good.

... just sucks that Fiji water has a shitty mineral content.

there are enough people sadly. I don't get it either! Tap water has outstanding quality in my country and yet people buy bottled water

tap water tastes like shit

@@yeahnoway111 Maybe stop eating shit then ?

You lot should try Wales tap water, freshest in the world

I do buy bottled water. I choose the brand with the best mineral values. It tastes better than tap water, especially when it's carbonated. Even though where I live we basically have one of the best tap water in the world. The process of filling and packaging and transport Isn't that bad as if I'd buy fiji water.

@@_blank-_ atleast they don't practice hypocrisy at such a level.

Well capitalism or starvation

@@user-vp9lc9up6v Anarchism or Annihilation