Yup! And that moron hunter opened more than one crate as well, I have seen double waves before.

True! For me it's learning me where to station my rogue tho 😇

We were not even safe standing in line for 20 minutes waiting for OUR turn at Garrick Padfoot over in Northshire...

@@veng3r663 yeah had the same in barrens for 2 mobs. i would say skip it

The griefers only double due to him playing lol

id take a ban to grief that shitter

@@tylermills2363 They were crying about getting banned for griefing. It was hilarious.

@@Miranox2 boy this has already aged poorly

@@Miranox2 They werent banned. The image of the ban was faked and staged by the griefer, they even made a yt vid about it.. :/ If you do search it up, please report the video for harassment (stream-sniping + toxicity + griefing)

What a sociopath

why are you making up fan fiction lol

@@gothic.. lmao keep yourself safe

@@jimmyz9666 you don't know what you're talking about at all but okay

@@gothic.. yes appealgodx is multiple people all of their accounts for perms banned

Also because of the crowd you don't know who's there in support and who's there to just kill his characters over and over

I'm amazed how people don't know that yet...after so many years. And so many wipes in that place.

at that point, you gotta jump up on the barrels to LOS and pull the casters in range.

@@giggitygoo21 There is no "at that point". The Grim Guzzler aggros if you attack the bartender, and they're not all casters.

@@MrRyanfisher i know i just mean if the tank screws up and doesnt know, he should at least LOS

just running past a party member in trouble is fucking cold hearted lmao

You could always just type /played to figure out how much of your life you have wasted.

@@anthonyfaiell3263 Oh nice one, been wondering what that meant since 2005

What do you think life is here on planet earth for all life forms? Hours and hours of playtime, all for it to be deleted upon death. Nothing new here

@@-Believeinyourself- someones been playing a bit too much hc

@@dancinglight8411 I haven’t played wow since everyone was playing classic like over a year ago. That wasn’t even hardcore and I regret all the time I wasted trying to recreate the magic I experienced in 2005. Wow is dead, and it isn’t because of the game. It’s because of the player base. If a whole new wave of people started playing wow for the first time and you could magically make sure no veterans with knowledge of the game are the majority, this game would flourish once again. It’s the knowledge and the min maxxing community that ruined this game, hence why the veterans crave a brand new mmo.

Bloodsail bucc if you’re na Hydraxian Warlords if you’re eu

How can you say its hate? It could be for lols too. Like asmon gets trolled even by his editors. They dont do it out of hate im sure.

@@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940maybe not hate but its def malicious intent

@@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940 It doesn't really matter. Their goal is to ruin the game for everybody. Just ban them. After that, they can appeal at Blizzard if they want.

I wouldn’t really equate sadism to hate, but your general point is valid.

Hardcore players ruin gameplay and interactivity for non-participants, whom which are victims of their servers being dominated by this wave of interest.

Yeah as a Holy paladin main (Not been playing for years though) that actually hurt to watch... He bubbles and healing himself? Makes no sense. The druid messed up too though for not going into bearform instantly but wow I feel bad for that paladin. His movement after screams of guilt and he knows he messed up bad.

In fairness it happened quickly and he panicked. He clearly realized immediately after.

@@kkjjqrysdgadff7782 the more intriguing debate at hand: why did you roll your face on your keyboard for your username?

I disagree. Paladin flash healed himself THREE times, while in bubble. Also doesn't have crucial things bound, like lay on hands. Gotta do better, bind the keys, you're safe in bubble heal the people with aggro.

Let's just say people like him do not get laid. I hope in official HC servers Blizzard will add like 500% movement speed on any mobs in the open world that's been kited a certain distance. Or give the mobs some kind of one-shot ability it only can use when it goes from one zone to another. Would be such a cool surprise to see the first lvl 60 hc griefer who want to kite Teremus and as soon as they reach Deadwind Pass, Teremus gains the ability "Doom of Deadwind" or something, 10k damage 100 yard range to whoever has kept leash for over 3 minutes and entering a new zone.

@@Moldylocks you dont even need that stuff, retail mobs will not be kited that far... just evade and go back...same system will work in classic. and saying those people wont get laid is kinda silly... since an old friend of mine did this sometimes and he has 3 kids and yes they are his lol >

1 life is 1 death... even in bg's

1) griefers pay subscription 2) getting griefed is unlikely to make you stop paying for subscription. 3) removing griefers will not make more people subscribe to the game. . This means that solving the problem of griefers will result in no influx of profit, while removing a bunch of paying subscribers... in other words. They would lose money for solving this problem. . The only solution to this is for consumers to have enough self respect to literally just unsubscribe from the game and openly say it is because of griefers and botters. If Blizzard saw people were willing to stop paying them money if this problem doesn't get fixed... I guarantee they would do something about it. . That's exactly why they only do stuff when megastreamers are involved. Because megastreamers bring light to the negative situation and have the power to push the sheep to unsubscribe. . But in large part, most people wouldn't even know botters or griefers exist without megastreamers in the first place... Sad but true.

​@@anthonyfaiell3263 idk why you assume people would keep playing after getting griefed. If I get griefed post lvl 40, i'm done. No more wow for me.

@@anthonyfaiell3263most people don’t keep playing when getting grief the fuck you on about

@@anthonyfaiell3263 IM done play lv39 in SV after getting grief... Fuck this game

Must be payback for all the mounts he stole during those RUST OTV Server days...

Where is your proof removing griefers won’t bring new people to the game?

There aren't enough griefers for it to be bad to remove them. A literal single drop of water in a giant bucket. Just throw them out. Your argument doesn't work.

@@-Believeinyourself- Where is your proof that it will? Because implementing systems to deal with them is going to objectively cost a sum of money. Can you prove that sum of money will be made up in not only sub to replace the griefers that were paying subs... but also to make up for the investment into the systems to deal with them? . For them to make that financial commitment, I don't have to prove that it won't. But you would have to prove that it will. Not sure you understand how risk assessment works for companies.

@@Fibah That doesn't matter, it's literally just lost money however many of them there are. Why would they make an investment that is going to objectively lose them money?

@@anthonyfaiell3263 So you think they shouldn't ban anybody EVER because "they'll lose money" So lets just allow cheaters and glitch abusers too and never ban any bots either. You are very smart. And it does NOT "objectively" lose them money, you have no proof that it would lose them any money in the long run.

then you said some words that werent allowed... because i have been on the forums since they opened and also report grievers to an extend and never got banned... soo.....dont rage ?

they should ban alot more players with toxic behavior really.

What do you mean? You are not allowed to help people in the open world, It's against the rules. However when you are in a dungeon with a team It's different. That's what he meant with not helping his team. A well placed frost nova could have saved them all. He was just scared of dying and choked.

@@andreasstahl8207 you are wrong you are not allowed to ask for help however you are allowed to help

@thalolol Okay. My point still holds, though. It's a lot different in an instanced dungeon...

Nice bait

Banning griefers is the norm in other MMOs, blizzard just cares about money not their community. So they'll gladly let those people keep giving them money instead of dealing with them

Horde attracts certain lifeforms.

it shouldnt ben bannable it part of the games lol in classic we kite world bosses to cities

@@DarkRa this is hard core it’s different

He is in a stance, he used execute, which require either battle or berserker stance. He has probably just filtered his buffs to remove stances.

Indeed they are one guy got all his accounts banned for griefing appealgodx got permanently banned also and some people last night that was griefing in Elwynn got banned while they was in the middle of doing it

Feel like there's an argument to be made that turning in a random quest in DM shouldn't PvP flag you in the first place. That NPC should just not be flagged. And even if we agreed that it was your fault, it's hardly your fault that low-life assholes are sitting there in stealth, waiting for people to accidentally flag themselves. Pretty much the same as a gathering node grief to me.

griefing and harassment are against the rules yes

Gameplay disruption is against TOS. Learn to read.