Vox : Thanks! These tracks are enlightening and lovely

Vox The Murlo remix of Rhythm N Gash is sick as well.

How is crack btw

These Tracks are Out of this World.🎵

Foreign Beggars

MANTLE ok that's just a step too far buddy they didn't 'steal our language' 😂😂 but yh, its had its influences by America a bit buts it's not derived from there

MANTLE They didn't steal our language, their descendants are English, Irish, German and Italian etc. English just came out on top over there.

Well hip hop is around longer than grime and has influenced it a lot but I guess you are just mad that hip hop is american

Lavar Ball 2020

Garage comes from hip-hop.... Rapping comes from hip-hop... Grime probably wouldn't exist if hip-hop didn't exist. But the people who claim they are stealing from their culture are still dumb anyways. By there logic only new york should be able to make hip-hop and all other cities in the us that do are stealing from them.

yessss

Noah Wilson brrrap brap!

Even the ones that live in the countryside...

Noah Wilson my g

yes lads

Yh i was shocked

Eric Thomas Yeah but Grime is UK orientated and they don't seem to make many UK based videos.

ikr

King Henry Grime's been moving up lol

Why? Like how is this surprising

Patrick Hogan i havent seen grey poupon outside the US

kakyoin MILF HUNTER There was just an older Vox video talking about the use of Grey Poupon in rap lyrics.

no cus we on that colmans stuff innit. :)

Well played Patrick.

Patrick Hogan great comment tbh

I HOPE THAT SETTLES ALL THE CONFUSION.

convergent evolution

Real grime is definitely different from HipHop but the new "grime" artists like 67 are not grime

67 is not and has never been Grime. 67 are UK Rap (drill subgenre)

Respect, Misty Cold is real grimey.

that's cos 67 arn't "grime" artists ffs, it's drill, completelly different genre of music

But it's still def hip hop. Hip Hop is huge and has a lot of sonic variety. Grime is heavily focused on rapping which def makes it hip hop. If it wasn't for NY Grime wouldn't exist.

eh, grime came out well after hip hop was world famous. sure its got different beats from UK's rich electronic music tradition, but to act like rappers in the UK were not influenced by rappers from the US is silly... just listen to the words they literally copy american rappers all the time

Exactly. Grime is a different genre. Strip away the vocals and it's very evident that Grime is not a subgenre of anything else.

nah, what im sayin is that its not a different genre. its like saying trap is a different genre from hip hop just cuz it sounds different... they are all types of hip hop.

It has it's roots in 2 Step and Hip Hop

No. Grime is its own genre, with its main influences from 2-Step Garage and Jungle music. Listen to "Pulse X" or "Wiley - Eskimo" to hear for yourself. You can sing, rap, hum or whistle over Grime, it doesn't stop it from being grime.

ikr?

FactHub I've known about grime for years before this.

with a 10 year delay?

Jonathan Rouse yep, it's hard to miss if u live in the UK since the early 2000s

Well done Jon

trus

Your not helping your case.

Caleb Luft Ksi

Thesus it doesn't have anything to do with ksi. its from shutdown

Hahaha! Nice quote from ShutDown 😂

I'm in a different class

Caleb Luft I always wondered was that skit ever a real call from TV like The Wright stuff or This Morning.

Mayday ikr, wasn't expecting this

Mad tbf

Shaoor Ahmad gotta love London

Mura masa vid tho..

God London is horrible, even throughout history

Shaoor Ahmad what do you mean finally!?!? I live in Bristol and I hear about London alll the time there is literally no escape even on the bus it’s “Oi did you see what happened in London last week?” Or there’s like 10 new movies recently that’s filmed in London like detective pikachu, new men in black, the new fast and furious and even spider man will be filmed in London. That’s not even all of them

@@water2860 best city in the world

gotmac06 yeah cause socialism worked out great for the countries who tried it right

Tory loser detected

Corbzy!!!

Lu Tze yeah cause capitalism is working so good right now

Lu Tze You mean like Canada, Germany, Sweden, Norway, France, Portugal, Australia etc etc... all Democratic Socialist countries.

Afgan dan can't go 3 days without a sniff 😂😂😂

Don’t even class bg as grime tbh sounds nothing like it

BGMEDIA 😂😂😂

@@-eurosplitsofficalclanchan6057 tnt Afghan Dan could be good if he stopped doing anything with BGM

DawntreaderUK it just got America

Not really - Grime has been filtering through for years. This documentary is 17 years late.

DawntreaderUK latest london export dummy

Watch the video... David mellings you too

It's not London's latest export. That is my point. it has been going since before 2000 and has been filtering into the US ever since.

Thats what I thought xD

ShadyLurker92 that was garage

and is starting gain popularity around the round, only two or three artists have much fame across the pond: Skepta, Giggs and Stormz.

Grime was around then also man. Can read more about it on wikipedia

lol, same I thought that, it's been popular since early 2000s

they're simply waiting on another Trump scandal or controversy

aye rude boy shut up...better than me shut up

jan yang brummer ehhhh stormzys no that good but

bejarny tbf 21 gun salutes a banger

jan yang brummer Dizzee Rascal made grime mainstream

Cat Birral Dizzee Rascal was grime's first mainstream artist.. but he didn't make grime mainstream

Nah, Skepta made grime mainstream Dizzie was the first but it didnt stick

JuniorXEastNY ***somali 😏

MCMF Yeah I agree. I wish this video was way longer and more indepth. there's so much more they could've said. Didn't even give Kano a mention

MCMF Yeah he just listed notable people and briefly mentioned background information. Some more focus on why the music is interesting or clever would have been good. Or demonstrate its importance to its audience to the viewer. The video was really more tell than show, ya know

MCMF ALL CAPS WHEN YOU SPEll THE MANS NAME

Lucas Murray true

Not like barrage, like carriage or marriage.

Reminded me of Wiley in his DJ Vlad interview loool

It was funny. There's nothing inner-city London about pronouncing 'garage' like that.

allow it mate before i get kurrpt fm to run up on you

It’s pronounced garidge.

skelon1 what you sayin fam

skelon1 wagwarn g

Hackney is the epitome of londonistan, up there with tower hamlets 😂

Yh I know all these hipsters in Hackney are secret muslims

Shoreditch is in Hackney. Just thought I should correct you.

Anonymous Killer Destroyer Yeah but then us UK lot shouldn't even bother with earlier Jay-Z, Nas, Biggie etc but we do.

You could've said the same about dubstep, but that spread around the world.

Check out JDZMedia's Risky Roadz videos. There's Grime MCs in Australia, Ireland, South Africa, New Zealand, Canada, USA, Russia, Japan, Czech Republic etc.

Not only Americans. Am European. this literally just sounds like hip hop with a London accent, and some kind of dance beat. Of course people are going to call it hip hop, sorry not everyone had such a specific upbringing as

They are literally rapping. The beats are different yes but you cant say its not inspired by hip hop.

This whole thing is just copied from America like 90% of the pop culture over there

Hank Scorpio hip hop didn’t invent rapping

Yes, it actually did. Do your research. It started from the MC's at parties hyping up the DJs. They kept taking it further and further until it became rapping, and then the MC's began to record their raps, which became early hip hop.

Dude that story broke just a couple of days ago, it can take some time to compile a useful/detailed report that gives you info outside of what you can see on any news channel. Patience, friend. Anyway, Vox is a fairly large media company, with different branches focussing on different things. Just because one team were producing this video, doesn't mean no-one else is bringing anything together about Qatar.

They have articles about that on their website. Their youtube channel does a lot of featured interest stories rather than breaking news.

Oscar Brogden not trendy enough

Grime is international.

Oscar Brogden grime is an issue.

AF25 u could say...its way too grimey for them...no??

American hip hop mainly makes average meaningless, tasteless "fake deep" crap to be mainstream. On the other hand, grime is unique and authentic

Or to shitty

AF25 grime isn't even music it's terrible

Grime is good, but it's pretty repetitive sometimes

MysticA3ther aaaaa prrapp prrapp

MysticA3ther you best not screen munch it fam

Barney Rowe It's the American pronunciation of it. Tomato, tomahto

Dux i'm not really sure that 'tomato tomahto' applies when it comes to names that have social and cultural resonance - garage is such a distinctly UK genre that to mispronounce it in the American English way detracts from its unique identity

Since like 2001

Rodrigo Vazquez but England is a country.

Dux u dont get it

Vox is news. They report news when it gets political

No they claim to "explain the news" with a clear bias, I actually like a lot of their content but their political videos are sometimes painful to watch

I think there’s a huge misunderstanding between what bias actually is in politics and what the news is supposed to do. For a lot of people and media outlets alike the assumed objective of any news piece should be to show both sides when in reality it should be about getting to and explaining the truth pf a subject. If group A says their plan will raise 5% and group B says that group A will actually raise taxes by 11% the job of a reporter shouldn’t be “Group A says this and group B says that, you decide who’s right” it should be to examine the issue as closely as possible and highlight empirical data and back up their conclusions with well researched evidence and political theory. This is something Vox typically does expertly and if their reporting seems to come off as having a bias for one particular side of an argument it’s probably safe to say that the actual evidence points in that direction as well- because typically speaking the answer isn’t usually somewhere smack dab in the middle like you might think.

Well reality is biased to conservatives sooo? it ain't vox that's biased

When you accuse people of bias you're just admititng you don't like what they have to say. Everyone has bias, your concern should be if what they're saying is accurate.

Haha I can't wait til the find out about E.

Danny Pockets AMERICAN Rap has been around since the late 70s so almost 40 years now. Nice try but grime has lost

jojibot what has that got to do with what was said

Danny Pockets. It sounds like a hot mess ! No wonder why it never made it in america. But if you dissect it, well glady take back OUR hip hop portion of it thank you !

grime has absolutely no relation to hip hop what so ever

What you doing Stuff Things

True I use to look like you but dressing like a mess nah thats not me

When I first heard that track I thought it was from 2004 or something. I was surprised to find out it was much more recent than that and that the video cost £80 to make.

Haise Leonhardt check it out

santan aint grime

santan dave is drill

Milo Levinson dave is not drill ffs he does UK rap

You have now!

Adrian Vargas you really were

you can say the same thing when you also reach the gates of hell. okay?

Yeah but he usually makes trap lol

Shredow2 and punk is a subgenre of reggae

Ok, see the difference is Punk and Reggae have alot more setting it apart besides a slightly faster tempo and being from London.

Shredow2 but that is not the only difference, theres only similarity between grime and hip hop is they are spitting over a beat.

Grime directly comes from garage

Shredow2 the only thing grime and hip hop have in common is rap and even that has totally different sound and flow

no, it came from uk garage

Phillip d'Amérique it really aint it comes from garage and d&b

which aren't inspired by hip hop?

No

I suggest otherwise. The rapping element, yes, that will come from hip hop, but the rest, no. Garage and jungle, to my knowledge, or more British than American, so it's to do with what they grew up listening to.

It really didnt develop from hip hop though. it grew out of the UK dance music scene. Grime is a closer cousin to house music than hip hop, hip hop and grime just ended up at the same place. I feel like you didnt watch the video tbh

Matt Gilroy there really is a difference, but the video doesn't really do well to bring that point across

Thats because you dont know the history of grime you buffoon. No need to convince you anything when you know nothing

Grime started out when the likes of Wiley and Dizze Rascal brought their own twist on UK Garage. Dizzee has also said that the vast majority of his inspiration came from Drum and Bass MC's on pirate radio stations.

they're cousins born from their grandma, the jamaican sound clash culture

KSI is the king of grime

Smiling Kanye I hope you are joking bro

Smiling Kanye u gave me a mild form of cancer

Smiling Kanye god help you my child

pow

Somali Pirate Who Pirated Your Girlfriend mate this isn't black American culture. We don't see race the same way you guys do here in London. it's British east London/south London culture.

Yxg and north London

You guys are still way too obsessed with being black americans. Race is not much of an issue here, we have our own culture and in fact laugh in most cases at American culture.

yes but it's influenced by african american culture in the us

It is definetly HEAVILY influenced by Black american culture, so im not sure what you are talking about