Grinders - How to Sharpen Traditional Turning Tools

Grinders - How to Sharpen Traditional Turning Tools - Tool Fool Friday

Рет қаралды 96,497

2 жыл бұрын

In this video we'll sharpen: roughing gouge, spindle gouge, parting tool, bowl gouges, scrapers and skews. The key tool used is the grinder. So this episode of "Tool Fool Friday" is a deep dive into grinders for turners and demo how to sharpen all the key gouges a beginner would use with it. This is an easy, simple and fast skill to learn and will open up a world of opportunities in the craft not available to those who only scrape via carbide. Plus, it's cheaper than alternatives.
Sharpening Starts at: • Grinders - How to Shar...
- Spindle Roughing Gouge: • Grinders - How to Shar...
- Parting Tool: • Grinders - How to Shar...
- Spindle Gouge: • Grinders - How to Shar...
- Bowl Gouge: • Grinders - How to Shar...
- Traditional Bowl Gouge: • Grinders - How to Shar...
- Scrapers: • Grinders - How to Shar...
- Skew: • Grinders - How to Shar...
----------------------------------------------------------
Tools & Material Used in this video:
- Associate Links (they give a little on back end to wortheffort)
* Most items used in this video can be found on our Amazon pages ( www.amazon.com/shop/wortheffort ) with the exception of an actual grinder
* Oneway Wolverine Setup: amzn.to/3iH0sT9
* Oneway Vari-grind: amzn.to/3ajWZoU
*
- Non-Associate Links (No compensation for recommendation)
* Raptor Setup:
www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/...
www.turnerswarehouse.com/prod...
* Stuart Batty style Set Up Jig: www.woodworkersemporium.com/B...
* Preferred Gouges:
- Thompson Lathe Tools: thompsonlathetools.com/
- Carter and Sons: carterandsontoolworks.com/
Associates Link of other items such as Tool, Book, etc.... I already own/use in woodworking craft that are available on Amazon - www.amazon.com/shop/wortheffort
----------------------------------------------------------
This channel is based on the value for value proposition. We depend upon patrons like you to subsidize our efforts. The time away from the 'real work' that pays bills and opportunity loss of time with family are our biggest expenses.
So if you feel these videos and series are of value to you and others please consider shopping and patronizing these sites:
- wortheffort.com
- / wortheffort
- squareup.com/market/wortheffo... (also for Donations)
- paypal.me/wortheffort for PayPal donations
- Venmo: @wortheffort venmo.com/code?user_id=324907...
- / wortheffort_ww
- / wortheffort_sgj

Пікірлер: 139

@FloofusTheCat Ай бұрын

Total newbie turner here. Thank you for taking the time to explain slowly and in detail.

@careyknight6574 Ай бұрын

Great job of explaining the difference between tools and both methods of achieving a sharp edge. Always enjoy your videos.

@geoffwatson6207 Жыл бұрын

I am just getting back into turning again after 10+ years and this video is a perfect refresher. I have the One-Way wolverine setup so the video is wonderful. Thank you very much. I love the banter between you and your dad. Cherish your father as long as you can. I miss my dad as we lost him in 2007 after nearly 30 years with Parkinson's disease. I have had the privilege of attending workshops with both Stuart Batty and Alan Lancer. What fantastic turners! Thanks again for your video.

@brucegibson8053 Жыл бұрын

I'm the "GUY" you're talking about at the first of this video. I bought my first lathe & turning tools last Wednesday (07-13-22) as birthday present. I spent my entire working life in construction but never touched a lathe. A friend helped me set up the lathe and he sharpened the tools for me but I wasn't near him to watch. Thank you so much for doing this video. It's helped me so much. Next weekend I'm going to garage sale(s) to find used turning tools & replay your video just to practice sharpening. THANKS A BUNCH!!! Who said you couldn't teach an old dog new tricks!

@robandsharonseddon-smith5216 2 жыл бұрын

Probably the best turning tool sharpening video on the web right now. Covers all you need and very little you don't. Thanks again for all your hard work

@christophecarpentier9797 Жыл бұрын

Wise, insightful and exhaustive, as ever. I'm bookmarking this and I'll go get a sharpie - and start using my jig the right way. Thank you!

@rockinjuliescott 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video! Love seeing your Dad!!

@BryceKant 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all these great videos. I am brand new in wood turning and your videos have been invaluable in getting started and actually making a few decent things.

@jreitman2007 2 жыл бұрын

better audio in this one than the last one, but it's mostly in my left ear in this one (vs right ear in the last)

@jydymyyyr9630 2 жыл бұрын

Just switch your earbuds around and the sound will be the same😁. I agree, one channel is much louder than the other.

@J.A.Smith2397 2 жыл бұрын

You have been my go-to source and my reference to others when it comes to turning and I greatly appreciate all YOUR EFFORT and wisdoms

@markashlock9017 2 жыл бұрын

Great informative vid Sean. Well enjoyed. Thanks!!!

@dougrowe1583 2 жыл бұрын

This was the instructions I needed. Thank you

@johnoerter2883 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Xclnt teaching!

@williamswhistlepipes 2 жыл бұрын

Great tuition. Fantastic. Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@RobRobBob 5 ай бұрын

This is wonderful, thanks so much!

@QNSwebmaster Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed and learned from this video. Thank you

@gervasebarnes 2 жыл бұрын

cheers mate, good in depth video

@AutoInsuranceRater 2 жыл бұрын

Your enthusiasm for each topic is inspiring! I appreciate the challenge to learn and share.

@radarthewoodturner8912 2 жыл бұрын

Great information I'm always looking for ways to improve keep turning stay safe👍👍👍👍

@sculptureflame68 9 ай бұрын

Great video! I learned a lot.

@doublekkkids7466 10 ай бұрын

Your videos are awesome. I am new to wood turning. There are so many people doing videos, I had to narrow down the ones I wanted to learn from. Yours is very informative and enjoyable to watch. Your channel is my go to channel. I have learned so much. Thank You.

@4gregcollett 6 ай бұрын

THANK YOU! I learned a lot!

@dennismoyer6696 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great learning video. I am a new turner and need all the help I can get.

@weathormantom7206 9 ай бұрын

This is a VERY informative video with some great camera angles. You answered a lot of my questions about sharpening and gave me some eye-openers for techniques to try. I'm still a bit of a rookie turner. Thanks for the help. Tell Dad I said hey.

@stevegilliam8721 2 жыл бұрын

Love pops he’s the man

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

Stop giving him a big head.

@stevendavis6759 Жыл бұрын

Awesome instructional video very done. I just bought a slow grinder and the One way Wolverine grinding jig. I'm so happy that I saw your video I had to Subscribe looking forward to more!!! Thank you for sharing.

@markthompson6860 2 жыл бұрын

thank you lads

@cattleNhay 2 жыл бұрын

I spent $24 for my sharpening set up…$20 for a used grinder and $4 for a 220 grit sanding belt. I removed the right grinding wheel and converted it to belt grinder. Great results sharpening with sanding belt.

@ethicalaxe 2 жыл бұрын

This is such a great video. Tons of great tidbits that can make sense in much more than just turning, chisels and planes.

@georgecloninger3165 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up on the one-way system. I bought one after watching the video. I can't afford the low speed grinder yet so I just put a variable speed control on the one I have. Think I will save up for a diamond wheel and a better grinder. Great video, thanks again.

@jayscott306 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect timing, my wolverine and Vari-Grind are on their way, maybe even here today, yet. Your videos taught me free-hand sharpening. But these paralyzed hands and my wheelchair (along with posture issues I share with you) prevent me from properly seeing the right wing when sharpening a gouge. So, I've learned to shoot with iron sights, time for some optics. I think I'll benefit in time saved by the consistency I hope I'll get with a jig to support my efforts. Thanks for the thorough video and your laid back approach. That said, I appreciate your father's perspective, too.

@rexb6478 2 жыл бұрын

Great Class on Sharpening.. wished I'd listened long ago on this part of woodturning instead of blowing it off.. would have saved lots of headaches and mental steam!

@toolmaking1988 2 жыл бұрын

thank you free much👍

@jobyshaw5459 2 жыл бұрын

When I say I have watched every video I mean I have watched every video you have made some over 10 times and I’m an inspiring woodworker and love working on lathe….I can say prior to the last month and I was just tearing out wood and sanding pieces I was selling for 80 bucks for hours! I also didn’t have anything but pine. I was turning some hard wood and noticed I for sure was better at that because the grain was tighter. I have learned so much about sharpening and how to use every tool and every cut from you I am so happy with what I’m doing now. I done my first sale over the weekend and got very humbled. I love making lamps and currently am waiting on a chuck to start making bowls and smaller things to make extra money. My biggest issue right now is marketing my name and selling stuff. But I have never commented prior but know I love your stuff and appreciate you so much for how good you are at your craft!

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

If you’re doing it as a business then business is the majority of the work.

@jobyshaw5459 2 жыл бұрын

I have an archery shop and do taxidermy on the side and was a full time professional archer for 9 years and woodworking is now taking over my life. I love it, the amount of stuff I have learned from your stuff is just crazy but a master at his craft is so important. I love that you’re able to give back the info that you have to better future people doing work.

@stephanieray6587 2 жыл бұрын

The 40 degree lines on the platform are pure gold, Shawn.

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

I stole that idea from Stuart Batty.

@stephanieray6587 2 жыл бұрын

@@wortheffortWhere can we get the Raptor set up tools?!

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

@@stephanieray6587 see Amazon link or any retailer. Google.

@stephanieray6587 2 жыл бұрын

@@wortheffort Mmm yeah, no. Not the 40.

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

@@stephanieray6587 found on google. www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/95/5188/raptor-Set-Up-Tools

@Rogerkesler 9 ай бұрын

Thanks! I been kind of struggling with my sharpening

@jeremy9877 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks I needed this video today and here it is lol. Thinking i'm probably gonna buy a new 1/2hp rikon & oneway jig, since i haven't been able to find any used slow speed grinders. around Houston

@scottadams2624 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. Your experience and passion really shine through in these videos, and especially this one. Did your Dad get you into turning, or the opposite? Its cool that you guys have something like this to do together.

@paulgreen2863 Жыл бұрын

Thank you just bought a wolverine and a Dimond wheel and a swept back bowl gouge. I'm having to break habits. I have been turning bowls with a detail spindle gouge.

@harveylester6679 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for being so informative. To be professional at ones work and having the skill to put ideas across is a talent not everybody has and you have. I'm just starting out wood turning so I've got to buy a bench grinder/sharpener and wolverine one way system which is my next challenge as I live in Spain I'm going to have to work hard in finding these items. As we live in the countryside I have a non stop supply of Olive and I'm itching to get on with it. Thanks for everything.

@MikePeaceWoodturning 2 жыл бұрын

Glad I am not the only one who makes videos only to discover the wrong words coming out, like negative rake bowl gouge at 40:02.

@ASR_385 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Shawn, your content is great, and has introduced me to turning which I am slowly getting into. I looked over your Amazon link, and was not able to find what you use for sharpening wheels etc. I also only saw the one gauge, would love to see more turning tool recommendations even if the prices aren't the best on Amazon, one place to see it all would be awesome! Thank you for all the work you do, it is greatly appreciated and as someone who has done a lot of other woodworking, carpentry, and construction, you have great all around advice. Keep teaching!

@anthonybalsamo9922 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the Great education! I'm just starting out, I did a dowel with a ring on it as my first piece but noticed my tool definitely dulled as i went.

@michaelogden5958 Жыл бұрын

32:45 Like your Dad's or Cindy Drozda' spindle gouge grind... I probably will never hold a candle to either of them, but I did a Drozda grind on one of my gouges a while back. For me, with a steady hand, a good eye, and a little nerve, it's a magic grind. Finicky is a good description (in my hands, at least). It's a fine line between awesome and starting over. 🙂

@gregstanchina4840 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative, could you please advise on the best set up for two diamond grinding wheel grits and recommended links to the wheels .

@stuartbruton48 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid for us beginners. Well done and thanks 👍

@WhittlingWoods 2 жыл бұрын

Extremely helpful. Thanks very much for doing these!!! 👍✌

@PatrickSalsbury Жыл бұрын

This is fantastic and really useful! Thanks for demystifying, and I especially liked the way that you showed several ways to achieve the same sort of effect, whether doing things with a jig, or freehand. That makes it really accessible, and your focus on showing how to do things consistently, and how that is more important than getting things mathematically perfect was also good and practical info. Very well done! Thanks so much!

@villageidiot8718 2 жыл бұрын

Just a suggestion for your always 40 degrees platform... Using an adhesive like Goop or E6000, glue a piece of PVC pipe or hardwood, if you prefer, to it so you can just slide it in until it hits and lock it. Thanks for the informative video

@jydymyyyr9630 2 жыл бұрын

Good idea... I use a small piece of aluminum angle iron as a spacer.

@isaacisaac2713 2 жыл бұрын

Excelent video!!! Ps: I'd like to suggest two topics for next videos: how to make wooden handplanes and dealing with chipbreakers problems

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

already done

@withoutdoors5230 2 жыл бұрын

Just brilliant content Shaun!! Than you very very much!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 best in the game!

@jasepotts2865 2 жыл бұрын

What grits are your cbn wheels? What grits are used for what tools?

@gemofthewoods5802 Жыл бұрын

33:13 to 33:20 - thanks for the laugh! ...oh, and the sharpening advice too.

@SteinbergImagery Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Audio drops off from about 30’-33’.

@davidmcmichael8113 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Sean, must say Love your Dad and his antics. Esspecially the Christmas Tree video. The times I’ve seen him in your videos he has given priceless information. Question the bowl gouge what are the turning deference between the bowl gouge, swept back and fingernail grinds. Do I need one of each for turning. Along with the 40/40 and the bottom feeder. Please advise

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

don't understand the question.

@terrypriest6471 2 жыл бұрын

your skew is 20 degrees. a little trig goes a long way. you said the bevel is 1.5 times the thickness. to figure on a calculator, say the bar is 1 inch, theoretical, the bevel is 1.5. half the bar is .5, the trig is sin A = .5/1.5. a $10 dollar calculator will show 19.47 if you push 2nd Sin (inverse Sin). if you put a protractor across the end, it will show 40 degrees.

@tonyr3352 Жыл бұрын

The most important aspect of the CBN wheels is they remain the same shape. This is what allows you to set and forget the jigs settings.

@tnyberg67 2 жыл бұрын

You mentioned looking for the older version of the Vari-Grind holder, what would I be looking for? A different name or some obvious tooling difference. And any advice on where to pick up the wolverine jig at a good price.. used? I just can't see doing any of this by hand, these tools seem like a great way to make sharpening a lot easier. Also was there some other attachments for the wolverine? Was that 40-degree tool holder for the grinder part of the wolverine or another part... and that little 2" jig... what makes that... great tips. I have the grinder but have been "trying" to do this by hand... LOL not so good. Thanks for the time you put into your video this has been really helpful.

@ga5743 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the information. Just got a CBN wheel eager to use it to clean up my messy tools 😀

@bettycushing9239 2 жыл бұрын

Hey wortheffort I enjoy watching & listing to you sharping your lathe tools thanks for shareing Betty I am a new wood tuner I haven't turned that much just made a couple of handles.

@HenryYaojdrdiatool 2 жыл бұрын

Electroplated Diamond grinding Wheels for Sharpening turning Tools!

@KQKQ23 2 жыл бұрын

Hello! What grits of Diamond wheels do you recommend? I noticed one is 600 but I’m not sure what the one you’re using most of the video is. Thanks!

@peterides9568 2 жыл бұрын

OK, I need to reform my turning gear. Suppose I could get a wet stone grinder or a slow speed grinder with the white friable wheels for about the same price, which way should I go?

@davidedinger3707 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Shawn. First, I want to complement you on your turning vids. Can you tell me a little more about your grinders such as brand and especially the hp and amperage draw. I've found some online rated at 1/2 hp and 3 amps (slow speed grinder) and I'm not sure that's enough of an amperage draw for sufficient grinding power.

@patrickbrennan2864 2 жыл бұрын

You mentioned “exploding” twice, could you explain why that happens? How to prevent it? Sounds kind of important

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

abuse can create cracks in binders. they let go. is not an uncommon occurrence especially in shared shops and people learning. That's why they have the shields.

@Ryan-bj9gv 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! You said you were going to discuss why you would have rather bought a lower grit wheel instead of the 600 grit. I assume because it takes a lot longer to grind? What is the highest grit you would recommend going for turning tools? What is an optimum all around grit? I have a 180 grit wheel but after being worn in, it is a bit slow when shaping a bevel. Wondering if 120 would be a better all around grit.

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

No, it heats up quick. More friction.

@royboggs3849 2 жыл бұрын

Shawn, this is great stuff! Thank you, my man. Now ...all I have is a 6” slow speed grinder & ordinary wheels (no cbn). Whatchu think?

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

Sharpen away.

@IlanDavid 2 жыл бұрын

I just got a grinding setup for christmas including a rikon 8" grinder and two diamond wheels 80 grit and 180 grit. Should I replace one of these wheels or are these going to be a good setup for me?

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

You’re good to go. Perfect setup.

@bradjunes1610 2 жыл бұрын

Explain please at what angle are you coming into your work with those grind angles. Thanks

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

Did you watch the video? That’s what it’s about.

@tnyberg67 2 жыл бұрын

On the Raptor Grinding Jig Guide, the link in the description goes to the 1-3/4" version - is that what we'd want? I think you had something on your bench for 2". You also are using that 2" Thompson setup jig, and I didn't see that in the description nor the hand hone... any recommendations on those? And the diamond wheels on the 8" Grinder - I think I have that same grinder. (-: sorry I've added a few questions to this post.. I tried to email Thompson via their web page and got a bounced message - I also couldn't find that nice little jig on that site. Maybe why you didn't post a link... (-:

@J.A.Smith2397 2 жыл бұрын

Question, if you get a CBN wheel do you have to have one for other side to even weight or can you use a regular stone like they come with on opposite side?

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

@J.A.Smith2397 2 жыл бұрын

@@wortheffort tks

@thekingofcustomt-shirts9769 8 ай бұрын

What tipe of grits you use to grinde

@TLAS Жыл бұрын

I can’t seem to find the actual grinder available online, only jigs and accessories.

@wortheffort Жыл бұрын

I typed “bench grinder” in Amazon and got 1000’s. Same for google.

@aaronruple6964 Жыл бұрын

I have the white fryable wheels. Both appear to be out of round cause the tool to bounce. I have a cheap wheel dresser, but that just cleans and straitens it. How do I true the wheel?

@wortheffort Жыл бұрын

@garyculver203 2 жыл бұрын

I have seen 6 inch cbn wheels for sharpening wood turning tools. Would that size work as well as the 8 inch or would I screw up my tools would you think?

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

For turniNg tools just get an 8”.

@jasonlangfield6155 2 жыл бұрын

The 40 degree angle on the rest or plate for the angles on the 40/40 grind on the bowl gouge. Are each of those 40 degrees from the corner of the wheel away from the wheel across the platform?

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t understand the question.

@jasonlangfield6155 2 жыл бұрын

@@wortheffort your 40 degree platform has two 40 degree lines crossing for when you sharpened your bowl gouge. Where does the point of the angle start?

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonlangfield6155 on mine the side of wheel but it doesn’t matter as they are only alignment references.

@gritius117 2 жыл бұрын

it looks like you have 2 microphones, one (Shawn) is in the left headphone and the other (dad) is in the right headphone, i hope it helps, thanks for the video, very informative

@thekchile 2 жыл бұрын

I love thes in-depth videos on a topic, But as a viewer from a developing country (Chile) these tools are way out of reach, because of shipping, taxes and stuff. You said there are ways to make those jigs, and I made one, but may I suggest for other viewers a video made for the ones that need to DIY these tools? maybe a review of some internet plans, and say what you like of those, how the may be improved and give ideas for the ones that will make some of those tools

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

There are so many other creators that have covered how to make these jigs I'd rather focus on stuff I know I could present better.

@platinumlawnservice Жыл бұрын

My spindle gouge turns out pointy. I'm going to get a varigrind jig but in the meantime, what am I doing wrong?

@wortheffort Жыл бұрын

Gonna sound snarky but you aren’t fringing on tip enough. Reset angle, start over.

@ralphrohr 2 жыл бұрын

Well, now i am confused coz i am using a tormek.... Main thing is, to loose the fear of doing something wrong. I always procrastinate on sharpening. Guess i am a little dumb, coz if i sharpen frequently even during one project i save Lots of times sanding.... but thanks again for sharing your wisdom!!!!

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

Tormek is fine. Gets job done. Different setup. Just a little slower.

@dogrey 6 ай бұрын

Slower to shape the tool but just as fast for maintaining sharpness. Tools last much longer. Love your stuff!

@bobhebert871 Жыл бұрын

Ok so what brand is the $100 grinder?

@Evel1847 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video thank you. Always great to have a cameo from dad. I have both types of Varigrind jigs… wondering what you find problematic with #2?

@jstarr3676 Жыл бұрын

I've tried your technique for a while a couple times now and I think I just dulled my blade...how can I tell its sharp without slicing my finger open? I'm new to turning and sharpening the tools

@wortheffort Жыл бұрын

if you can see the edge it's dull.

@Topscoach Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your great videos! Just a thought: Is it possible to show a demo on an actual turn?

@danielagee118 2 жыл бұрын

Your dad rocks

@ratbert69uk 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely left ear audio.

@jaayjones5937 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe you have, but a video grinding planes and chisels when they need to be and how did you set the 40°. a digital angle finder? Nice video in every respect.

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

Setting 40* was covered in video multiple ways.

@EclaWood 2 жыл бұрын

Berapa rpm itu kawan

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t speak Botswana.

@jaayjones5937 2 жыл бұрын

@@wortheffort What rpm is that man (translated)

@curtisaitken7027 Жыл бұрын

If anyone is selling a slow speed grinder and sharpening jig…I am looking to buy. Trying to keep my costs down incase it’s just a passing idea.

@johnoerter2883 2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean CBN rather than diamond wheel?

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

@johnoerter2883 2 жыл бұрын

@@wortheffort found myself wondering how much a diamond wheel would cost … 😉

@patrickbrennan2864 2 жыл бұрын

This might sound heretical…….but I copy barbers. Once I have the shape and sharpness I want, starting with a brand new tool, I use a leather strop. 10-12 swipes on each side of the edge and that’s it. No grinder. I don’t cut with a burr, I cut with the edge. Burrs don’t last - but my tools do, Because I’m not grinding them away. If the edge catches on my fingernail, it cuts wood beautifully green or dry. A thoroughly honed edge stays sharp for a long time. I use two leather strops, one is attached to a board and the other is just a piece of leather in my hand- both are loaded with honing compound from a green block. I wrap the leather piece around a cylinder (drumstick) that matches the internal shape of the tool to hone the inner edge.

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

Even in green wood I sharpen multiple times a bowl. In dry even more. 15-20 seconds a sharpening. Pros I know sharpen even more. Barbers don’t shave a mile of hair every minute or two, turners do. The technique you describe is more appropriate for hand tool woodworking.

@OANP. 2 жыл бұрын

In short, buy cheaper tools, use the same general idea and figure out which way u like it...then buy the expensive tools.

@chrislusbytaylor3197 6 ай бұрын

At about 32 minutes you comment that the way your Dad does a spindle gouge freehand is similar to Cindy Drozda. I don't think so. What she does, as I understand it, is to keep the gouge flat on the platform at all times when sharpening the cutting edge. If the platform is set to 40 degrees, it obviously gives a 40 degree bevel when you point the gouge straight at the wheel. What isn't obvious is that if, as you point the gouge left or right so as to grind the wings, you simultaneously twist its handle so that the bit of the cutting edge getting sharpened is always exactly horizontal you are guaranteed to get the same 40 degree bevel all the way round the edge, regardless of the wing sweep angle. This works for any bevel angle, not just 40 degrees. This contrasts with the results you get with a VariGrind jig, or a Sorby or Tormek style jig which all tend to give a much smaller bevel away from the tip of the gouge. I believe that keeping a consistent bevel reduces the chances of a catch.

@wortheffort 6 ай бұрын

You physically can’t stay on 40* platform and get the long wings Drozda uses. Hence their similar technique.

@chrislusbytaylor3197 6 ай бұрын

@@wortheffort Yes you can. She does. Her video "Platform Sharpening of Woodturning Gouges" shows this. The only time she moves off the platform surface is when adding a secondary bevel to take the heel off. When grinding the actual cutting edge she, correctly, keeps the gouge flat on the platform. Her description of the relation between turning the gouge to point different bits towards the grinder and twisting it to ensure the correct bevel is, perhaps, not totally clear. What she does is to ensure that the cutting edge is horizontal where it touches the grinder. She says "parallel to the platform" which comes to the same thing but I find it easier to ask myself if it is exactly parallel to the top edge of the platform. There is no doubt in my mind that Cindy fully understands this. It is the only way I know to get exactly the same bevel all the way round any gouge, regardless of the bevel angle. No jig achieves this. By the way, the "sweep angles" she marks on her platform are not the same as the wing sweep angles. The geometry behind choosing them depends on the depth of the flute as well as the wing sweep. It just so happens to be about 50 degrees from straight on for a 40/40 grind on a typical bowl gouge. By the way, the secondary bevel(s) can be ground with the gouge flat on the platform, but it may be easier to do it freehand. Its angle isn't important, of course.

@wortheffort 6 ай бұрын

what your saying doesn' t make sense as that technique is what you use for things like bottom feeders and roughing gouges. Results in no wings. She may start flat to establish bevel and keep the gouge on the back of the platform for rest of sharpening but she does twist and move up as she does the wings. Seen her do this many times. Kinda the standard freehand technique no matter how long you like your wings. @@chrislusbytaylor3197

@joenalaska 2 жыл бұрын

As always the information is greatly appreciated and really good longform content. Unfortunately the audio issues persist, this one was almost impossible to watch because the voice was so quiet compared to everything else including background noise.

@wortheffort 2 жыл бұрын

Everyone else is complaining voice is too loud and only on left. There is no way to get rid of the sound of a grinder when demonstrating the use of a grinder. Not sure what other background noise you're referencing. There's likely some way to not record in stereo to alleviate one channel sound.

@CrazyStu33 2 жыл бұрын

The auto CC works pretty well for this video.