Nah, that was You Left Me or some shit.

Oh why don't you just Get Over It.

which flash game tho? newgrounds has too many great flash games to keep track of one... i guess you could say that we would have... Adventures With Anxiety!

I hope you remember its name because otherwise it will take months to find the game with just this description It will be a real Time Fcuk

Celeste

This is what we call Beyond Two souls syndrome

"Should we have a fail state?" "NON! Ze audience will be too invested to even consider putting ze controller down!"

@@crossbones116 GRIS is Spanish.

@@marnsdnfois7006 The word gris means grey in both French and Spanish.

@@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 The game is Spanish, too.

By "fine" do you mean "the same"?

@@shadowtoast6294 I mean that people would've liked itway more, since they woudn't expect any gameplay.

Says someone who hasn't played it.

Yes but then it would have been in a different medium and nobody would have given a damn about it. Not to mention it wouldn't have made them any money. See Vidya gaems is where the $$$ is in entertainment these days.

I'd disagree. The story is understandable through the gameplay and would carry no impact without it. Also I think the game uses its gameplay quite well to develop its themes and make way for beautiful imagery that is interesting specifically because you cna interact with it (if you're not being chased by an eel that is). Just because you cant die doesn't mean it's not a good videogame.

I didn't know either title so thought this was going to be a review for some sort of coop game that I hadn't heard about. Now I'm a bit sad it isn't. I had this build up in my head of a two player coop fantasy RPG with a female character named Gris and her brother, Ashen. Something along the lines Hunted: The Demon Forge but you know... good.

I know right? Got me confused there for a minute, even forgot I knew about Gris...

Honestly, I thought it was just one game. And after the review I’m not convinced I was wrong in my assumption.

It almost sounds like a shitty Banjo-Kazooie clone where the joke is the duo's names translate into the word "Grey" and is the only joke in the game that most people wouldn't catch on at first, in an effort to be clever.

"Gris and ashen" sounds like grits and eggs that got way overcooked.

Shade makes things grey.

So he decided to whip them instead of flog them?

Keep your Zero Punctuation fanfics to yourself.

I hate you

so.... Fifth shades of games?

I'm more hyped for Ecru and Beige.

are you kidding me, taupe and brown is gonna be the next big thing

I felt Chareuse and Geoluhread was pretty decent if not a bit obtuse...

Seems like "artsy" is bad period nowadays

Fair point, yo! I love how we keep getting narrative hooded person walking simulators after Journey happened. The problem is that Journey was much more than that.

People are actually gullible enough to think Journey has a story?

@@yourgameisstupid Journey does have a story, and it's not a secret or subtle

@@B-Roll_Gaming Right, it's just so trivial that you'd have to be gullible to consider it a proper story.

Wouldn't mind watching that.

I now want to make a game about someone stuck in their bathroom with a paper bag over their head.

@@redfoxbennaton Have you never heard of games like The Company of Myself?

@@redfoxbennaton Alright, you incompetent *fuck,* you can't claim everything in a genre is shit if you haven't even touched the genre in a decade.

@@Nijht RIP

You know Joel, if it was some artsy bullshit where you wake up bound, bagged and blind, and have to escape a place by bumping into shit to figure out the rooms layout... It could be more interesting than Grey and Grey.

I play THE SKIMASK, myself, much more engaging.

THE BAG A gripping story about some twat with a paper bag on his head that somehow ends with the twat overthrowing the brutal dictatorship and becoming president. All without removing the titular bag

Ashens title isnt misleading. Theres literally ash everywhere

Eh - only the shit ones They're WELCOME to everything that's sold out to them imo

Naught to three

@@theharvardyard2356 An excellent rating.

Halcyonacoustic He didn’t compare it’s art style to undertale. He said they’re both artistic which is true. Also them being artistic is not just about art style.

I wish people only made games that I like, too.

Undertale isn’t artistic.

Now psychonauts.... That was a masterpiece.

"slightly"

Yeah, it sounds weird without the s tbh.

Gris is also grey in French, and there you don't pronounce the s.

@@GuyRosenfeld but the dev team is spanish, mate

@@taikenSHOW How would Yahtz have known it was Spanish and not French from just looking at the steam page?

@@b4byj3susm4n Wikipedia .___.

So it is basically like with white folks hating on other white people or that weird lass that played video games to prove their point that she hates video games, becouse they appeal to the male fantasies or whatever :)

Then again its surprising to me that David cage games are ashamed about being games rather than being huge fucking wastes of time and an insult to storytelling as a whole

BaranZenon this analogy makes no fucking sense.

It's not ashamed of being a game, it's just a different type of game. It's very upfront about it too. I guess it's not for everyone, but it was a wonderful experience for me.

Hardly to me. Gris seems more honest and upfront with it's subject matter than a David Cage game. Cage games beat you over the head with subject matter, has cringe dialogue and terrible plots. GRIS is straightforward, has no dialogue to criticize except for maybe Gris's own voice and let's the visual story telling do it's job. Maybe not as deep or complex as it could be but it has a art style that will outlast most games in future, is short and consistent, let's you control it and not require QTEs or choices and is priced far less than those games. No GRIS is more in the realm of games like Journey, Flower, flOw, Abzu and other games of those types that is more environmental driven than narrative driven. It's more abstract and what you think it is rather than being upfront of what it is. It's why Yahtzee likes Papers Please and Return of The Obra Dinn instead of Journey or Flower because he likes an actual cohesive story and unique way it's played/read. On a side note I do find it hypocritical that Yahtzee doesnt care for GRIS when the same can be leverage at Obra Dinn and Papers Please that have arguably similar boring ways to show itself as a game. Still like those games but his stance on games like Gris and Journey feels contrived.

@@kyotheman69 what crappy Argument

Well we saw gameplay of it so its not hard to figure out

You are not. I thought Gris was a beautiful game.

I loved GRIS. It's not a great "game" IMHO because it really doesn't have much in the way of gameplay, but it's an amazing experience.

It would be pretty sweet if they just got rid of that guy for good and payed yahtzee to make extra videos instead.

Can't understand why they employ that hack.

I don't watch anything but yahtzee so i can't give an accurate critic on MovieBob but simply scrolling down the videos section of Escapist you can see a titanic difference in view numbers between ZP and Moviebob, so.... it seems viewers and subscribers care a lot more about Yahtzee than MB

@@Jayfive276 I don't know what you're talking about, or why you're so angry.

@@TheMorrisMan1 with the amount of work Yahtzee does already I'm pretty sure he couldn't do that even if he wanted to.

@@BuriedFlame Not a bad idea. I've noticed that KZfaq recommends all sorts of videos from channels I'm not subscribed to.

Thanks for the obvious joke save me from making it :)

Sup

Is this how you make your living?

This comment is my life goal.

wOw I think this is the first comment I've seen of yours that hasn't got someone saying "stop following me"

I actually really love Gris! It is one of my favorite games of all time and seeing this video felt really disheartening. I think that some people just like things to do in video games. Gris isn't supposed to be a dark souls or very demanding of a player. It is more an ambitious interact piece of art. Even the creator of the game expressed how they were afraid this exact thing would happen. I suppose it is just a game that not everybody can enjoy unfortunately. Ironically Jahtzee had talked about how in your face it feels when in reality the story is very vague at times and there are a lot of interpretations as to what many things mean.

In concept, I like Gris. It's just not good as a game imo. The soundtrack is phenomenal, the art is gorgeous and the themes are kinda pretentious but get a pass because I don't personally relate and there might be someone out there that does. But the platforming feels more like it was included to MAKE it a game than to enhance the experience as a game, if you catch my drift. Gris asks you to pay close attention to everything it presents you, except when you decide to take a look at what it asks you to do as a player.

Oh could you explain what you liked about it?

Well, the word is *also* French and means the same...but in this case yes, it's Spanish.

@@nindger4270 Yhatzee just assumed it was French because he was lazy.

@@marnsdnfois7006 He's far from the only person who's made that mistake, but every KZfaq video about "Gris" has the correction among the top comments, so you'd think they had caught up in The Escapist. Considering that Yahtzee is going out of his way to mispronounce the word, at least he could try to butcher the right language.

@@XanderVJ It's because Yhatzee made the review in bad faith. He's known to hate games that don't focus on gameplay.

its the same hipster/auteur kind of bull they eat up like snack cakes, so its a very honest and easy mistake to make

Doo-Dee Doo-Dee Dee-Doo "Cheapo!" POUNDLAND SPECIAL!

Yahtzee is looking at Gris the same way IGN did. Gris was literally meant to be playable art, form over function, not watercolour Dark Souls. Heading into Gris expecting it to play like Celeste, another platformer, is like playing The Last of Us and complaining it wasn't like DayZ purely because both were zombie games, ignoring that both games went for completely different styles. In the end, Gris is definitely not for everyone and it was quite funny seeing Gris flying over Yahtzee's head with an audible whoosh.

@@MnecraftEpicPro This. Sometimes I want play a less stress inducing game while still using some initiative and that's what GRIS is. I find it strange that a lot of people believe this game 'plays itself' and should be a movie instead. No it wouldn't be the same if it were a movie, the whole game requires you to interact with the exception of the eel part which almost everyone is tunnel visioned on. If you go into the game expecting it to be Celeste ofcourse you'll be disappointed; The only similarities I can think of is the 2d artstyle and hidden strawberries/memories

except gris has nothing to say i mean yahtzee describes it best "sad person wants to be less sad" there are literally thousands of other games that handle grief, depression, and mental illness MILES better and what the fuck are you on about it having more mechanics than journey it's literally just a side scroller with some puzzles sprinkled in plus i refuse to play a game that is so invested in itself to remember that games are supposed to have challenges and consequences or at the very least be fun to play

@@chefrory6271 if you don't find it fun, good for you, most people including me find it enjoyable for what it's trying to achieve.

I liked Ashen. I would even say it was a good KMart Souls clone. I had a buddy to play with so it wasn't that bad.

'Gris' also means 'grey' in French.

@@Darkgun231 Real inconvenient the game isn't French, then, huh?

It is, yes

Yes. Ben made a mistake.

Yep, "Gris" is developed by a Spanish company and also is the spanish word for grey.

Yahtzee should review Celeste someday. I got it with Xbox's games with gold and had some fun.

Despite both being 2D platformers Celeste and Gris are pretty much polar opposites. Celeste is all about mechanically amazing platforming surrounded by a layer of emotional indie bullshit. Gris is a mechanically sound platformer built around a core of emotional indie bullshit, smart level design, jaw dropping art, incredible music and perfect sound design. If you're looking for a hard game you will not like Gris. It requires *some* thought and *some* mechanical skill, but it's not a difficult game. And if you ask me, that's fine. Not every game needs to push the player to their limits. Sometimes a more relaxed, emotional experience which just envelops you for a few hours is what you want. If you're the type of person who gets a lot out of listening to albums front to back, you'll probably love Gris. If not, you won't.

He fucking changed his mind about celeste the bastard... He said he liked it when he was doing a chill stream with it. Then he said in his review of Katamari Damacy Reroll is that he doesn't like it.

@Vazazell Wow, you definitely know what you're talking about.

He just (kinda) reviewed Celeste actually. It's a small bit of this week's review on the Escapist site.

As a danish person I am with you. It is just too funny in an immature way. Look at our beautiful artsy game. It is called PIG

That's hilarious. For me, a Puerto Rican, "Gris" is the same thing as in French I guess, it still means gray in Spanish but you actually pronounce the "s" in it.

I can already imagine the new tagline. "Ashen: AI so realistic, you won't tell the difference between a normal moron and an AI moron!"

The Razielim I played it and it's more of a puzzle game than a platformer

I'd personally argue that it's more of an emotional experience than a game, and that's why the company markets it as such. Yahtzee is right that it would be disappointing as a platformer, what the game excels at is using music, art and platforming gameplay as a metaphor for the emotional experience of losing a loved one, specifically in going through the 5-stage cycle of grief. The fact that Yahtzee both didn't understand the story and only judged its gameplay shows he didn't really get that, but these types of games are pretty niche so I think it's totally fair for him - and others - not to like it. As someone who lost his sister a number of years ago though, an artistic metaphor for dealing with a family member's death really hit home for me.

@@ZetaStriker0000 The gries part exist only because the game told you so, there's litterally no signs of it in the story since there's no story to begin with. Also I find it really perplexing that one can make a game about grief and at the same time describe it as "serene and free of danger".

@@ZetaStriker0000 You see, the problem here is not that someone didn't get that oh so wondrous niche experience reserved for the select few who have experienced the true grief of this terrible world. It's that it's completely worthless to present your story in a medium for whose mechanics you don't give a shit. If you want to present your story as a game, you should take advantage of the fact that it's the only truly interactive medium to incorporate that function into how you tell the story, immersing the player by having them mentally take the place of the character they are in control of. If you're going to just write a short film and then intersperse token gameplay segments for the player to move from one chapter to the next, you're wasting everyone's time and insulting the medium of choice. In other words, the OP has it wrong. Art and game are not separate opposite elements for which a balance must be struck. Art can be expressed through game mechanics, and done so wonderfuly, but if you're just stringing cinematics together with bad gameplay for the sake of the player moving from one scene to the next, just go make a movie instead.

Your last part of the comment makes no sense. Games, all games no matter how they are looked at, are art. As for the game itself, Gris is really no different than other games like Obra Dinn or Journey they just express themselves through environmental design than narrative. And what's wrong with a game not "feeling like a game"? Isn't the point of games is to draw you into it's world and immerse you, trying to make you forget real life for a moment and enjoy the world it offers? That's basically the same thing Souls games do and yet no one dares combat that (and that can arguably have mediocre gameplay, long walking sections, ambiguous story telling and such). What makes it any different? Sure challenge but not all games can or have to be challenging to be loved or be immersed in. It's all in how the experience you feel at the end of the game is what matters.

Fumeister 099 Wasn't it Most Impactful game? Or did it win Best Art Direction as well?

is not french, is spanish

GRIS isn't French.

Ok so I hope you are all kidding. I especially said “in french” not “french titles”. What it means is that the title is in the french language.

@@shadowfalcon1269 It's in Spanish, genius. Way to double down.

it's 2019...

you mean like manual samuel?

QWOP?

Your wish is granted. Look up Baby Steps.

Terrible puns rock, paper and scissors, all in one.

Yeah, I hope he reviews Celeste too

Are you a part of Pewds army?

Ohh yeah

@@tonraqkorr230 No, i'ts the autistic mus' army.

@@n00bsstuff36 excuse me? What's mus'?