Colt debuted three new revolvers at NRAAM 2024: the Grizzly, Kodiak, and Viper.
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@heresjohnny21723 ай бұрын
That 3 inch viper is appealing
@zee42653 ай бұрын
Personally I’m digging the viper
@DavidG-in8sf3 ай бұрын
Man brush up on your revolver nomenclature!
@graywoodfoxwell19313 ай бұрын
"This one is kind of a handgun" 😅
@ScarabaeusSacer435Ай бұрын
@@graywoodfoxwell1931 Well, you can't argue with that, but the thing which made me cringe was saying guide rod when he meant underlug-- the steel shrouding the ejector rod on the bottom of the barrel. The thing he absolutely got right though was that he kept the revolver in frame for the entire dialogue, and usually it was a close up of the revolver, and he didn't just hold it in one position while he talked-- he kept it moving: he swung out the cylinder, showed it from different angles, put the 3 and 4 inch side-by-side, etc. That makes this an above average presentation of most new firearms in a video this short.
@garyK.45ACP3 ай бұрын
FWIW, the non-fluted cylinders _do absolutely nothing_ to make the revolver "stronger" or able to handle "heavier loads" in terms of operating pressure. The weak points on the 6 shot revolvers are still the cylinder stop cuts. The non-fluted cylinders add weight, and together with the porting, reduce felt/perceived recoil. It also reduces manufacturing costs. 🤔 Factory loads for the .357 and .44 Magnum rounds will not be changing, and anyone who is exceeding published data for handloads because of a non-fluted cylinder is asking for trouble they don't need. I suspect at least part of the reason is to distinguish them from the other Colt revolvers...the Python and the Anaconda.
@troypierce35623 ай бұрын
Very well said.
@bb52423 ай бұрын
was going to post same thing. Where do people get these ideas from?
@garyK.45ACP3 ай бұрын
@@bb5242 🤷♂ The internet? KZfaq videos?
@BrokenBarBox3 ай бұрын
These younger shooters grew up with black plastic. They simply don’t know all that much about revolvers. But hopefully guns like these will interest them and maybe they’ll start learning the nuances of the wheel gun
@Ussr03123 ай бұрын
The original Kodiak and Grizzly didn’t have cylinder cuts, it’s just to make them closer to the originals rather than save on manufacturing costs.
@ironmikehallowween3 ай бұрын
That Grizzly is very cool.
@HughesEnterprises3 ай бұрын
Grizzly and Kodiak are $1599, Viper $999. A lot cheaper than $5K+ for the originals.
@hankwilliams-hx9ww3 ай бұрын
In my personal opinion what little experience I have with Colt revolvers there is a reason for that price difference. My older guns have much better triggers, much better fit and finish, and honestly older classic features like pinned barrels and recessed cylinders and other nice things about them. The only disadvantage to one of the older ones is that they don't really like the hot loads compared to the newer guns but honestly I don't know anybody who would put that through either of the guns new or old. People tend to baby them if they have one. Still though as crazy as it sounds if I'm after a shooter I'd rather an older gun. The newer ones are great for collecting but I just don't really care for the way they shoot. I don't like having to have a trigger job and an action job done on a gun that cost a grand because it is actually raises its almost the price of an old one anyway. Just my 2 cents.
@Tikenmuwings3 ай бұрын
@hankwilliams-hx9ww definitely the older guns are nicer but they're not as tough i do prefer the originals over the new one's I don't really give a fuck though I'll run anything through a gun as long as it doesn't blow it up including A vintage python
@santamanoneАй бұрын
The originals were less than $300
@TikenmuwingsАй бұрын
@santamanone no shit every thing was less expensive 30 years ago
@santamanoneАй бұрын
@@Tikenmuwings 30 years? The originals are over 80 years ago.
@christophereger10533 ай бұрын
Nice to see the old names back.
@martyinthecounty3 ай бұрын
I like that viper
@TheOfficialCaseMade12 күн бұрын
The Grizzly is super cool, but man that Viper just does it for me. The Python is still my favorite, but the Viper will have a place in my stable.
@predragdjuric-tt9uc3 ай бұрын
really nice wheel guns.
@autumnfragrance63263 ай бұрын
Can we get the Viper in 327 Federal with 7 rounds ?
@squirrelknight97683 ай бұрын
No
@squirrelknight97683 ай бұрын
@@michaelclausen9331 it wouldn't be Colt if they gave us what we want now would it?
@Tikenmuwings3 ай бұрын
For real dude the second i saw the viper I instantly thought they should make a variant in 327 that'd be awesome
@BrokenBarBox3 ай бұрын
I wish they would’ve made it in a lightweight frame like the original
@TheOfficialCaseMade12 күн бұрын
If they do that, I will buy it right fucking now.
@cub8556Ай бұрын
I’ll take one of each when they release the blued versions
@tonnywildweasel81383 ай бұрын
Looking good! Very good 👍
@aleksandarbubnjic91613 ай бұрын
Super! Perfect... Pries?????
@frankmorris47902 ай бұрын
I have an original Viper. A Cobra with a 4" tube. Alloy frame, very light, No 38sp +P or real hot stuff. Mine has been here 40+ years, on a ranch for the last twenty, edc often. Older an uglier but still runs butter smooth, with hits out past a hundred....
@divergentview28213 ай бұрын
Viper should have been 327 alloy frame. Grizzly should have been .44 mag, and Kodiak 454 Casul. 357 revolvers are a dime a dozen.
@TheOfficialCaseMade12 күн бұрын
Yeah, I was expecting some big bore cartridges for the big bore names. The Viper is still cool as hell, but a .327 variant would be one of my next guns.
@CuttingEdgetools3 ай бұрын
Colt will never be able to replicate the original Python,Anaconda and Diamond Back . Colt had master gunsmiths back then and The quality fit and finish of those are the pinnacle of Quality Wheel Guns! The Earlier S&W Revolvers from Decades past are very fine too.
@smithn.wesson4953 ай бұрын
Hate to rain on your parade Grandpa Boomer, but the new family of Colt Python and Anaconda are way stronger, better action and far more durable than the original designs from the 50's for the Python and the 90's for the Anaconda. Colt put in over 35% more steel in the frame / cylinder for the New Python - Anaconda and over 60,000 rounds through these guns during development and testing. The old Python could NEVER handle 60K rounds of proof grade 357 Magnum. It's not our fault you paid 3 to 4,000 for a 40-year-old gun that is half the durability and quality of what you can get for 1,500 now. And yes, I own a 2017 Cobra, 2020 Python and 2021 Anaconda so I know what I am actually talking about and can put my money where my mouth is on this subject.
@cub8556Ай бұрын
My 2020 python feels smoother and is apparently much more durable than my 1980 python. Stop spreading misinformation ya walnut
@TheOfficialCaseMade12 күн бұрын
@@smithn.wesson495 all the old guys are mad that their hand fitted $4000 heirloom is a less effective tool than the new kid on the block. Even Bill Wilson himself agrees that the 2020 Python is mechanically more robust than the classic Pythons. God forbid Colt try to reintroduce a classic with improvements from modern technology 🤷♂️
@bip35875 күн бұрын
@@smithn.wesson495 I mean mechanically an old Python definitely could handle 60k rounds of .357 magnum. Most likely would need to be serviced, but I feel a lot of the newer guns would as well. These are astronomical numbers we're talking about. At intended loads, up to 899 ft*lbs ish, which is about as hot as "factory" .357 gets, there shouldn't be a catastrophic frame failure. "Factory" meaning bespoke companies like Buffalo Bore. Cracked forcing cones might occur but usually are the result of extremely hot hand loads with light projectiles (~115-125gr) according to the Jerry Kuhnhausen Shop Manual Vol. 1 (Vol. 2 is about the coil spring guns.) Most of the benefits of newer Pythons are stuff that didn't manifest on every example of the original Python either, like the timing issues. Beyond that it's lots of small changes like the recessed barrel crown, which is nice of course. There's also the non-stacking trigger, which is nice if you aren't used to trigger stacking, which is most modern revolver shooters. Point is, the newer guns aren't categorically superior to every example of the old Python, just significantly more consistent. The important part is also that they're 1500 bucks, which wouldn't've been achievable with the original production standard of the Python. The original Python, if you made it today, would probably cost something in the range of 3000-4500 dollars. The people complaining that Colt will NEVER achieve the same quality they did back in the day would blow a fucking fuse if Colt did, which they can, all of these techniques still exist, and priced it reasonably. I managed to snag my basically flawless condition (when I bought it) 1979 Python for 1800 bucks, and I think the intangibles are worth an extra *maybe* 500 dollars. People paying 3000+ dollars for an original Python are fucking bonkers. It's not twice the gun of new Python. Anyway all of the guns are good, the original Python wasn't as fragile as S&W shills made it out to be an the new Python is a worthy successor.
@harrycallahan97333 ай бұрын
0:51 That's a Hogue grip right? Pachmayr grips look very different from that :)
@gsp84893 ай бұрын
They are marketing the viper as a carry gun and they still only gave it trench sights. If it's purely a collector's piece then fine but It's little features like that which would set it apart from the competition in the carry market. SW 19 pro comp, 586, 686 deluxe, kimber k6 can all be had for that price AND have real sights.
@davidbolton82823 ай бұрын
Me want a grizzly.
@MrRourk3 ай бұрын
Revolvers The comeback tour But where are the blued?
@TucoDog-ho6fw3 ай бұрын
If you ever fire a ported centerfire revolver without hearing protection, you will never do it again.
@Ussr03123 ай бұрын
I think that goes for literally any firearm ever created that isn’t suppressed. If you shoot without ear pro it isn’t the gun’s fault when you inevitably destroy your eardrums.
@TucoDog-ho6fw3 ай бұрын
@@Ussr0312 even with hearing protection on you can tell how much louder a ported barrel is than a non-ported. That was my point. Anything but the largest most powerful semi auto pistol and revolver cartridges are controllable as far as barrel rise goes anyway.
@MrMountain7073 ай бұрын
Smith sells a 44 that weighs almost half of that Kodiak. I'd rather carry that.
@chriscunnane75963 ай бұрын
what are the bbl lg
@jimmiebuckler9973 ай бұрын
I like the viper but I’ve heard of too many issues with the new colt cobras. Hammers and return springs breaking.
@jeffmather7283 ай бұрын
Whats the price on them?
@ianwatterson69703 ай бұрын
Too much
@Tikenmuwings3 ай бұрын
The Kodiak and the grizzly are $1599 and the viper is $999 but I would expect to be able to get them for $1,300 and like $700 on the secondary market after a little while
@imbennelson3 ай бұрын
Love colt but wish they'd start outfitting beyond the 1950s
@podsmpsg13 ай бұрын
Nice.
@jusztinnemeti63803 ай бұрын
Grizzly is super cool. But there are no predators we have to worry about anymore, lol.
@TheSilvertrigger3 ай бұрын
That grizzly costs more than the stainless pythons, why not just get a python??? The viper looks nice.
@pinejungleboogie35633 ай бұрын
The grizzly looks almost as cool as my m711
@turdferguson28393 ай бұрын
This guy looks and sounds like you found him outside a smoke shop, 00:18 "this is kind of a handgun" really bud???
@TheJoeshExperience13 күн бұрын
Lol I was just thinking that this guy couldn't have less enthusiasm if he tried.
@jmad713 ай бұрын
"So we at Colt have listened to customer feedback and we are introducing our Viper as a more affordable line." "How much?" "$1000" "...
@user-Thanakorn25143 ай бұрын
💖💖💖
@ca54003 ай бұрын
They compensated a colt python and anaconda and called it Kodiak and grizzly, whoopee!
@BrokenBarBox3 ай бұрын
I’ll never understand why people get so angry about new models….
@josephesquivel40663 ай бұрын
@@BrokenBarBox They just poors
@ca54003 ай бұрын
@@BrokenBarBox who's angry? Colt literary took models already in production and ported them, then gave them cheesy names. It's disappointing frankly.
@ca54003 ай бұрын
@@michaelclausen9331 I will 😆, it's literally the same models with porting...
@kjacob353 ай бұрын
Are they Pachmayr grips? They look like Hogue.
@frankdavis3133 ай бұрын
Couple things who owns colt now and the cylinder isnt fluted to save money not increase strength other wise the 500s&w would be slick lmfao
@michaelweber92903 ай бұрын
Like that viper. Looks cool as shit. Tell’em make it in 22lr
@toddparsons29803 ай бұрын
Like it
@sonicslow9953 ай бұрын
Those are hogue grips not pachmayr. Curious if all these will have light strikes and be out of time like everything else.
@aleksandarbubnjic91613 ай бұрын
Price???
@TylerM16113 ай бұрын
Kodiak and Grizzlies are 1499 Viper is 999
@Tikenmuwings3 ай бұрын
$1599 for the Kodiak and the grizzly $999 for the viper but they'll probably come down a couple hundred dollars on the secondary Market after a little while
@TylerM16113 ай бұрын
@Tikenmuwings I agree I got my cobra for 800 and my python stainless steel for 1200 the only firearm I bought retail priced was the anaconda
@Tikenmuwings3 ай бұрын
@TylerM1611 yeah man I saw a python sell for like 5 or 6 hundred bucks a few weeks back. I'm really excited to get a viper tho
@KevinJames-sr8mi3 ай бұрын
Stronger and cheaper to manufacture
@lfeco3 ай бұрын
Hope they offer them in a non-ported option.
@Ussr03123 ай бұрын
They already do, the Grizzly is basically a Python with a ported barrel and smooth cylinder and it’s the same way with the Kodiak and Anaconda.
@TheOfficialCaseMade12 күн бұрын
They have for four years now lol. It's a Python and Anaconda.
@KossoffFan3 ай бұрын
More half underlugs and fixed sights please! The full underlug was the ugliest invention ever put on a revolver and only the Pythons made it look good. I'd love to see a Viper style revolver in .44 Special.
@bettylewis98863 ай бұрын
So, colt now produces a gp100 and Redhawk.
@BrokenBarBox3 ай бұрын
How so? The side plate frames of the Colt are different than the solid frame modular designs of the Ruger double actions. And in all fairness to Colt, the Python frame is nearly identical in size to the GP100 and the S&W L frame guns. They all fit the same holsters, and speedloaders are interchangeable between the three guns. But Python debuted 30 years before the Ruger.
@williamryan91953 ай бұрын
Is Colt using a more robust forged trigger mechanism? Or still going with those MIM part internals? MIM saves money and can cost lives. Failure in firearms is not an option.
@TommyRibs3 ай бұрын
On the Colt website, these revolvers look terrible. Here, they look excellent. The grizzly is really sweet looking.
@Gunscom3 ай бұрын
We do our best 😂
@nigel9003 ай бұрын
Buy an old used Smith instead… 👍🏻
@SuperSneakySteve3 ай бұрын
This guy has no idea what he's talking about. Cool guns though.
@jsmunitions14713 ай бұрын
Is the new Viper an aluminum alloy frame like the originals from the late 1970s and early 1980s?
@christophereger10533 ай бұрын
Stainless steel
@mwinner1013 ай бұрын
*forged stainless steel
@lucasvaughn629Күн бұрын
Cool guns. Too bad the hoast has no idea what hes talking about lol
@jimbob4653 ай бұрын
Are any of them worth a fuck or are they just a bunch of thousand plus dollar colts you buy to show your friends?
@gc6414 күн бұрын
Better not shoot that ported magnum without muffs….then again who wears muffs in the woods
@user-im9ov9ud7m3 ай бұрын
Vanna White,,, you ain't.!!! 🦬
@akodo13 ай бұрын
I feel dumber for having watched this. No real information is given. In fact this guy is WRONG. The Kodiak is not just a 'Grizzly in 44' it's on a different frame sized This guy doesn't know the difference between a barrel and a cylinder. And then when describing the Kodiak he for a minute thinks it's a non-fluted chamber! Any decent gun video would go in and correct the voice-over, or at least on the screen put **Oops, Cylinder!** We aren't any reasonable facts about these guns. For instance, are they priced differently that the Python, a more economical version maybe? (Nope - it's a python with ports and a smooth cylinder for $100 more) Is Colt finally squeezing 7 rounds on it's medium-large frame? Nope. Are other barrel lengths available? Nope. How much does it weigh?
@gregoryhembree91903 ай бұрын
Is the 357 Magnum you're talking about a non-fluent cylinder are you just kissing ass or do you know what you're talking about a fluted barrel can handle a double charge from a 357 if you going to be honest you should have told the truth and said the reason is not flooded is because it's cheaper on manufacturing that's why it's not fluted did everybody knows that even the manufacturer
@user-sf3tq7cz5t3 ай бұрын
Chill out KAREN!!!!!
@PerceptionVsReality3333 ай бұрын
@@user-sf3tq7cz5t What do people call a male Karen?
@user-im9ov9ud7m3 ай бұрын
Karen.! It works. @@PerceptionVsReality333
@MyBigoo3 ай бұрын
Colt class!
@tedestes11203 ай бұрын
The VIPER is a 38 Special, not a 357 magnum.
@sky41493 ай бұрын
It is 357 magnum. Says right on barrel.
@TylerM16113 ай бұрын
The classics were 38 these new ones do best of both worlds
@statictech73 ай бұрын
They should charge $10,000 per gun. Really show the 2A community you dont have any interest in helping people arm themselves. Money is all that matters in life, right?
@HughesEnterprises3 ай бұрын
lol, Colt is a a high end brand marketed to collectors and upper middle class. It is the most collected gun brand in the world. They are aspirational high quality guns, not $300 throw away Glock clones and Brazilian revolvers. There are plenty of people that think Colt’s are the entry level into quality guns and $1K+ is the starting point for a quality revolver.
@Tikenmuwings3 ай бұрын
You can piss the fuck off. It ain't like it's meant to be some damn High Point or Taurus revolver that you don't give a shit about the manufacturing that's put into the gun to make it a quality gun ain't cheap so the gun ain't cheap. If you don't like the price don't buy one