Big Yellow's to-do list beat up an onix tank a golem explosion world domination, probably

@@estherstreet4582 taking over the Tri-State Area

@@estherstreet4582 commit a hate crime on dragonite.

@@gnomefrompinkerton1116 it is pretty rare. Does that count?

@@gnomefrompinkerton1116 i mostly posted this because i thought it was funny. I never thought i would be talking about the semantics of hate crime as a concept.

Onix is defo balanced with Brock in mind like it's such a random stat spread otherwise

Yea but it has the super high attack stat of 35 so it’s actually broken when you really think about it

Onyx was always funny to me. In original rby you can literally just ember it down with Charmander because it's special is so abysmal, and you might think playing yellow makes him more challenging because your starter is Pikachu but yellows early game is ripe with answers for Brock.

I remember reading a post discussing how Onix is a great example of early RPG boss design. His intimidating appearance+weak stats being done in a way to help novice players learn the ropes. It really got me thinking about how many Pokemon in gen 1 were designed to be balanced enemy encounters first, and good members of a team second. Especially since PvP wasn't even in the game until late in development, Game Freak probably felt plenty comfortable designing creatures like Onix.

@@TectonicImprov yeah it would have worked great if the AI was a little better. The fact that he attacks randomly kind of kills the idea. It could have been a relatively challenging boss battle if it set up screeches properly.

Surprised no one made the obvious Harden joke yet.

I'm more of a ekans stan

I mean it's not free if you have to use an item slot for this

Yeah I understand it's not actually free in terms of any cost ever, I did mention it was an item. I meant that it doesn't need to spend a turn using SD to boost to that attack stat (obviously it can still boost further with SD) and it doesn't have the restrictions of later boosting items. You are right though in that if it was literally free then it would be very different and Marowak might have been viable for much longer.

@@zade3488 azumarill is a good point of comparison, having the same effect on an ability. None of Kanto Marowak's abilities do anything. Rock head with only double edge to use it with. Lightning rod when you are already ground type. Battle armor when you won't be sitting there and tanking. Basically a ground type rampardos except slower. Meanwhile A-wak was OU-viable with the same stat spread.

I had no idea that's pretty badass tho

I love how accurate this metaphor is. To continue the metaphor, additionally, the house will eventually grow grass around it from being battered by the rain and snow

​@@iantaakalla8180 To add further, the grass grows under the house itself because it has no floor either (shit HP). It is just walls. There doors and windows are also shit (attacking stats), but at least the walkway leading up the house is halfway decent (speed).

The best way to explain onix to my dad #TGRO

@@maninthetrenchcoat5603 and then the grass covered walls get set on fire which completely wrecks them despite being very sturdy (onix having terrible special)

they're all bad but I guess onix is ok

@@BigYellowSilly onix nerf when

This legit made me spit my drink. Which I think might count as a Water attack? I bet I can 2HKO Onix.

@@0ctopusComp1etely nah you 1HKO onix

@@BigYellowSilly what if onix uses quick claw

And then they forgot to put anything that hits rock/ground super effectively before him, so if you're playing charmander you're in hard mode until you get Confusion on Butterfree.

@@kevingriffith6011 no you can just use ember, its special bulk is so shit that it genuinely can't tank half damage hits from non-physical attacks

@@kevingriffith6011 Except that Onix's special bulk is so trash you can just spam Ember.

@@hi-i-am-atan Depending on if RNG is kind to you he can still cause charmander trouble, even with ember, but yes. It's just easy to get discouraged when geodude comes before him and also soaks up a handful of embers before going down. It's the difference between two OHKOs with the other starters and two Three hit KOs, I'd say that counts as hard mode.

@@kevingriffith6011 Giving Metal Claw to Charmander in FR/LG was so transparently to make Brock less painful.

I've never even considered that but that's honestly really cool lmao

in Pokemon Stadium it's very clearly based on Rhydon harder to tell in RBY. almost looks like Kangaskhan's baby there.

it's literally a rhydon plush in stadium.

​@@DJFracusRhydon was the first pokemon added to the game

Having a girlfriend means you have less time to watch Big yellow. Break up with her

No but literally

@@lyingcorn And who says that?

@@lyingcorn watch it together, best solution

True

Yeah getting the tm in sun and realizing it was suddenly a good move felt so random.

Shout outs to it being a TM in Rescue Team DX, but still seeming to have its bad power.

Agreed

I remember playing SM literally on release day in 2016. You get the TM really early on. I remember just being amazed that it’s now 80 power. I gave it to incineroar and didn’t look back.

They even went back and gave zubat and all the other early leech life users absorb instead which I think is kinda funny.

landorus-therian

Ground + Water are the two most consistent types throughout all 8 gens

@@MioAppreciator flying + ground is an unbelievably busted typing

Garchomp in gen 4 and gen 8

@@KindaKaon Just looks at Gliscor too.

And then Return and Frustration got removed in Sw/Sh. Earthquake stays winning

Something needs to be consistent

EQ is almost entirely balanced the same way that ground as a whole is - flying types. You couldn’t have a 100/100 move on pretty much any other type (except moonblast which is coincidentally one of the most spammable moves of all time) because flying is so common that it entirely keeps EQs fantastic power and accuracy in check

@@KindaKaon Also Levitate (and Air Balloon (and Magnet Rise))

One thing to remember is that Pokemon is a mostly single player game (+trading for completion) first, casual multiplayer game second, competitive multiplayer game third. Mechanics were even put in place to obfuscate how good your pokemon's stats will be, to discourage taking PVP especially seriously. Bug types are bad because you meet bug trainers early in the story, earthquake is good because Giovanni is the last gym boss. They weren't designing for balance, they were designing for a curve. And there's places they fucked up with that (Like how dominant Psychic is when Sabrina's a mid-game gym) but that appears to be the goal. So, while they've taken some steps, I'm not surprised it's not a balanced game. It's not really meant to be.

I wholeheartedly agree

What if it crits tho

Golem is the reason men die younger

Legendary comment.

It's gonna be okay! Sylveon, Primarina, Hatterene and all the other Trans girl pokemon hv got ur back ❤️

I don't know, I like Big Yellow. I don't think I want to see them run the risk of dying to a golem explosion

I hope Big Yellow evolves to ghost type, because of that.

I’d love to see a video combining that with other underrepresented types in Gen 1. Might just be Ghost and Dragon, but hey, Gengar and Dragonite are both worth discussing.

wish granted

@@Zyvox Hell yeah

No way

It's likely that Lickitung was created with the same reasoning for a potenial first gym in Viridian city.

@@GynxShinxI never heard that before. Where did you hear that?

@@toxicperson8936 Don't remember, but probably Palgue Von Karma.

lemme guess@@GynxShinx ... the gym would have been clefairy shaped and the other pokemon of the leader would have been clefairy :) I am pretty sure most gym leader teams in gen 2 were leftover sets for gen 1 hence most of the teams being gen 1 pokemons. I can see lickitung being dropped for the cuter miltank which is very similar in morphology and color.

@@cryptosporidium01omg can you imagine the memes of a world where whitney’s ace is lickitung?

Which mon is the best one in RBY ZU?

@@pksprite6401 As one of the five people that plays RBY ZU, it's Arbok. Arbok completely trolls everything slower than it due to being the fastest Wrap user in the tier. It can also paralyze anything faster than it with the 75% accurate Glare. Arbok also has to a decently strong Earthquake (which is very valuable in a tier with a lot of Ground weaknesses) and Rock Slide / Mega Drain. Rock Slide hits Pidgeot and Scyther for big damage, and Mega Drain does massive damage to Onix. It's not the most flashy #1 Pokémon ever, but it's super efficient and good at it's job.

I’m glad that there’s a tier ruled by the snakes.

@@hoodedman6579 ZU is short for Znakes Unleashed

@@JV-uq9cf znakes...

Kinda want to plumb the depths and figure out the weirdest thing about RBY. Including or excluding the Japanese versions?

@@artistwithouttalent There's an entire town only findable using glitches and exploits which has nothing in it. Or the entire existence of a second pokedex's worth of glitch pokemon.

They gave Rhydon 3 Water moves but neither of the Rock/Water fossils a Rock move

In general, Pokemon that were designed early on in RBY's lifecycle tend to have bizarrely wide TM movepools, especially the nonspecific kaiju-looking ones. This also shows in the case of the Nidos, Kangaskhan, Lickitung, Clefairy, and Cubone.

honestly it's kinda normal for a mineral dinosaur thing to learn surf at this point.

Well in Gen 1 you can abuse “Good AI” with Venusaur late in the game or tbh Nidoking, which is the best in-game RBY mon. It’s funny how it’s NU in competitive but a staple of speedruns

I always took steelix as the pokemon onix would’ve been were it not for brock

I think Venasaur is the best starter, or at least better than Charizard. Auto crit Razor Leaf and abusing good ai agility spam is so good.

@@carucath97 Another factor that makes Poison-type actually good for Nidoking in speedruns is that the low-health beeping effect overrides a lot of other sound effects, some of which delay the run by about half a second. So you actually want a Pokemon that can get knocked into red health fairly early, and Nidoking fills that job well enough, since it has so many weaknesses.

@@Begeru I mostly meant in like type matchups. Bulbasaur tends to struggle past Surge (excluding Giovani). But yeah auto critical razor leaf is pretty insane.

Rhydon vs Onix

Rhydon is insanely cool. Fsr I've always loved the way it evolves. There's a lot of pokemon that go from a little four legged thing to a big two legged bruiser, but with Rhydon it feels like a really special transformation somehow.

Counterpoint: Tentacruel

@@manjackson2772 I think part of it is just that Rhyhorn is already a pretty nasty-looking dude; its design is entirely fitting for a single-stager, and even statwise, RBY Rhyhorn isn't that far off from some fully-evolved Pokemon. And then it evolves on top of that...

True but I think though that would be it's only niche

@@ashyflame Imagine if it gen 1 has ability and the thing have superpower

@@naganut9718 well if abilities existed in gen 1 starmie, chansey and tauros would dominate the meta even more

Still gotta look out for Arbok glare when it falls to ZU

​@@melvint-p9500 Diggersby would have to watch out for Stun Spore, not Glare.

The only thing really holding it back is that virtually all ground types are pretty sliw, or the quick ones have a drawback. We have seen what happens when you make a ground type the exception to this. Lando and garchomp, lol. The nido's aren't too quick, but with godly movepools and an ability that works beautifully with it, they just carve out more of a niche than most others do. It's a shame that there are so few rock and ground types that break the archetype of slow, bulky physical mons. The exceptions have been kinda killer, if they weren't held back by something else. *Glances at the terrible movepool or abilities of the rock flying types*

Actually rock also hits more types for supereffective damage than resist/are immune to it. If a pokemon was every type at once rock is the only type that’d hit it for supereffective damage (since as flying type it’d be immune to ground).

On top of that, the omnipotence of Steel's resists are subverted by a clever EQ, and while Fire and Fighting also manage this, they're much worse offensively (generally less useful coverage after Normal never getting anything ever again and coverage done better by different coverage options respectively), and that's on top of the type having the craziest move to hit things with. Being a hard-counter in every respect to electrics also doesn't hurt, given how debilitating paralysis is, how overwhelming electric mid-tier legendaries tend to be (Zapdos, Raikou, Thundurous, Regileki seriously they keep getting away with it) and how ground types usually have something besides being a ground type associated with them, whether that be insane presence, a difficult-to-counter bulk or being Garchomp in gen 4. It's a type that's given every ability they can think of every generation. Absolutely busted.

Them being limited was the bane of my stupid gimmick "Exodia pimp slaps you to death" deck.

@@beautifulnova6088 please elaborate

@@zotanica Simple, really. The premise was to play either Exodia's right or left hand and use a bunch of spellcaster or dark monster buffing cards to make it big enough to slap the opponent to death.

@@beautifulnova6088 That is a hilarious gimmick.

It's so weird to see Dugtrio be good on its own merits without Arena Trap

@@BigYellowSillyit’s pretty good in gen 9 pu

Unfortunately Ground types are immune to EWGF ):

Same here! Been taking a break ever since I lost 6-0 to a team with two thunder wave users and 4 wrappers…. I gotta respect them bringing Arbok but I also hope both sides of their pillow are always hot.

Me too I have the same thing haha

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What you mean? Huh

What

my guess is that it's a joke that marowak is so worthless without thick club introduced in gen 2 so it only "becomes" a pokemon in gen 2

Jeez, you guys are slow

Reverend also uploaded a really good vid today, it's like international RBY day kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sLFnkruild6ml4E.html

@@BigYellowSilly I will add him to my bell as well, I found him because of the Ubers video.

Ground is probably my favorite type. There’s only like 2 or 3 I can think of that I don’t care about. Favorites are Excadrill, Mudsdale, both Nidos, Rhyperior, a lot of em really.

If I remember right that's probably true cause isn't there a glitchmon that evolves from Marowak?

@@BigYellowSilly I am not sure of a glitch mon evolving from marowak, but I found that there was a scraped marowak evo in the back sprite leak.

I heard a rumor that Marowak was originally supposed to be connected to Kangaskhan during it's development, but this was obviously scrapped later on

@@BigYellowSilly idk about evolving from Marowak, but M evolves into Kangaskhan and people like to associate them sometimes, so maybe you were thinking of that?

And then starmie is a pretty good arguèrent against that because it’s Misty’s (the 2nd gym leaders) ace yet starmie is one of the 6 best Pokémon in rby OU

@@ultimapower6950 starmie is absolutely meant to destroy you though. I think it having access to bubblebeam and being very strong is on purpose. You're supposed to just lose that fight and go "oh shit" and then you decide to go elsewhere, get through your rival and nugget bridge, potentialy find a grass pokemon there and then come back a bit later better armed to deal with it *or* if you don't feel confident the game opens up a bit letting you go through vermillion's section before actuallly walling you off and asking you to beat misty to make progress. I feel like brock is meant to teach you "you can beat that, just persevere and change your strategy, play smart not hard". While misty is meant to teach you "sometimes it's best to comeback a bit later with higher level". Also it destroying you with bubblebeam makes it feel like a significant reward (and it really is at this point in the game). The same way that brock encouraging smarter approaches gives you a less direct move (a bad one but still that's the idea). After that the game does open up a lot though and while there is a mostly clear intended path I don't feel like any of the remaining trainers are giving you any clear lessons. You're pretty much out of the tutorial section after that. Well i guess surge is teaching you about catching other pokemon because it's got a very strong thunderbolt but it's completely shutdown by the digglet (or even worst the high level rare dugtrio) in diglet cave. But surge is also not very strong and almost completely optional for most of the game so there is that (very valuable badge for the ability to fly but flying isn't required). Honestly gen 1 might be broken as all hell, but as an adventure singleplayer game it's pretty well designed.

Don’t forget Rock, which I think is basically just part of this video.

Wham. Ghost type video.

@@hoodedman6579minus the fossils only I think

The worst part is finally landing it and realizing how little a super effective Submission does more than EQ

@@BigYellowSilly honestly. Submission does only 4% more to tauros than eq and tauros can just 2HKO with Blizzard. Its amazing just how terrible this move is.

yeah I think it just goes to show how much the competitive scene was centered around simulators (understandable if you want freeze/sleep clause among other things) Considering, on cartridge, psychic can special drop Zam, twave can para Zapdos, but toxic doesn't work on Muk, it isn't immediately obvious that status-as-side-effect doesn't affect the same type. I'd assume I was just getting unlucky in RBY single player if my body slams never para'd a normal type, unless you play it a TON like you did most ppl probably wouldn't even have enough scenarios to notice that some Pokemon never get para'd by body slam. It's pretty nuts

It's weird they got an Attack buff too when both were special attackers for years

@@BlueAizu_ iirc it used to have rapidspin in gen 2 and they just... kinda never gave it access to it again?? rapidspin is a huge part of why it's better than rhydon by a significant margin in GSC from my admittedly limited understanding of Gen 2 OU

Golem got Rapid Spin from an event and the whole GSC incompatibility with RSE ruined that

Yeah, fair point. I wish grass was more of a factor, cause it can legitimately mess with that entire trio, but it's generally so weak that you can practically ignore it as far as team building goes. With some obvious exceptions of course

@@skinnysnorlax1876 Yeah grass' biggest strength is more it's utility against itself (ignoring Spore haha). Like a 4x weakness to most any other typing would be a deal breaker but water/ground is just THAT good for it to not really be something to be extremely concerned with. Garchomp needs to worry about ice beam coverage or Charizard worries about rock slide/rock blast/stone edge being commonly paired with ground moves it normally ignores but hardly anything runs Grass as coverage unless it has STAB.

@@caldw615 it's also partly because ice or rock coverage makes almost any Mon better. Grass coverage is basically only good on electric types, or bulky water types that want to beat other, bulky water types

Please do not make me think about that. Onix with F'ing 100 speed and higher HP...with that defense. No thanks. Sorry if I seemed so mean. I was just horrified by the fact of a miltank-esque Onix.

@@CoralReaper707 No no, I don’t mean in copying stats, I mean in total.

@@CoralReaper707 oh no, a version of onix that has stats on par with the fully evolved pokemon that it is, the horror

@@CoralReaper707 still wouldnt be that good honestly, it would still crumble to 4x attacks and special moves, on top of being weak. itd be like regirock but worse

@@wheatleythebrick2276 we’re speaking of gen 1 UU. regirock wouldn’t exist.

Actually this is mostly due to games being won where the winner doesn't reveal their Tauros, out of the big 3 Tauros generally wants to come in the latest in the game, so it's more likely to win a game without sending it in

I love how the meta is so far gone that everybody needs a Tauros, but since Tauros is a late-game sweeper you don’t want to bring in your Tauros.

Turns out the tech was to play ZU

That would be a really fun idea actually

Thumbnail Onix has something definitely very wrong with its horn and it's either fainted or straight up dead, so the thumbnail ultimately makes fun of it like almost every other living being in this universe.

@@darkfiredragon3410 Onyxtile dysfunction