Ha! I know, right?! Thanks for the compliment! I love making these, and I haven't been advertising my channel at all. So, I'm hoping it'll take off. You're one of the first subs to something I hope becomes big! Cheers!

Also, if I may be so bold, how did you stumble upon this channel / one of these videos?

Mosh I love the movie Groundhog Day so I decided to Google: "How many days was Phil Connors stuck in Groundhog Day?" And I picked this. Keep up the great work man! :)

i find your link at imdb trivia about groundhog day

Thanks Doctor 12! Glad you found us!

At least one. Probably untold hundreds. The Buddha hated the world before he loved the world. Everybody hates the world before they love the world.

Anyone who's played Skyrim knows that this is true.

@@TwiggehTV I got all my townsfolk murdering out in #3 and never killed random people (except vampire shenanigans) in the next two.

This is one of the best comments I've ever read.

Imagine after killing everyone, the loop stops

Good point! It would be pretty traumatic!

That might explain why he chose to remain there. Why move when you can stay in a town that you have spent years becoming an expert in?

Yeah, I'd imagine that after spending so much time used to things repeating. You'll go mad from not being able to predict anything. The attitude of "meh, try again tomorrow" will be lost, and knowing true consequences will be hard to overcome.

He probably just killed himself as soon as he realized he got out of the loop and wouldn't come back to life......

He’d be institutionalized like prisoners when they get released from prison.

Nobody? Like the comment further up, from over a year ago?

lol Good one.

Touché

Bing

He makes sure to reverse the curse afterwards. No need for unnecessary claims. Ned's not silly, & been in some other cool roles too, like Sneakers.

2 days each.

Literary my dream

@@youtubeenigma8316 it does not take two straight days to read one book

@@db5094 A person can easily read a chapter book in 1 or 2 days, even factoring sleeping hours and a work schedule. Not everyone is a slow reader buddy.

@@youtubeenigma8316 buddy, im saying it takes way less than that. Not everyone is incredibly slow as that.

he's probably have like the same number of mental attacks or more or lease

He comes out far more enlightened. I think he'd be equipped to handle anything at that point.

Not any more anxious than, say, a prisoner being released from a relatively benign prison.

Chio Chan Genocide ... the Nervous Break down from no longer knowing what's going to happen is the basis for the sequel Ground Hogs Day 2: The search for Space Balls 3.

Felipe Aguena I thought the same thing. Groundhog Day 2 would be DARK

That would be an absolute Frick for him.

That would be a great sequel.

why'd he get interrupted?

Yeah, I'm gonna pitch a script like this to the studios, I'm gonna call it "Repeaters".

That would probably be a horror movie plot

Imagine if everything reset including our memory, then we wouldn't even know we're repeating a day.

That's a great way to put it, and all of the stages he went through, and it is why he finally became a better person, and broke the loop.

Kind of right but not quite all the way. Phil learns to earnestly love himself which attracts everyone else to him along with Rita :)

I think he broke out of the loop by getting Rita to love him in a single day

@@alvexok5523 that happened as part of The Melancholy of Hurahi Suzimi Endless Eight story arc. They found out they relieved one day over 10,000 times.

Am I right? Am I right right right right???

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The jingles in those insurance ads do get pretty obnoxious.

He wasn’t able to escape the present until he planned for the future. Deep.

That would have been too much for this kind of movie. Probably a remake done during these last years would have been much more "gore", including murders, mass-shooting, raping, aimless violence, exhibitionism, voyeurism, sex in public...elements that can fit the atmosphere of these days. But I can only imagine the terrible impact these things could have on the public. Even considering the character changing into a perfect sweet man, the viewer would be stuck to the violence images forever...

The creators themselves have said as much.

kerbango fiji what

@@kerbangofiji5646 to be fair he could try all those out of frustration and even madness. Let say he's already living the same day for almost a decade he can turn insane and did all those. After a long bout of insanity he will be broken into being sane again. Also the ending is kinda creepy, sure he's being nice to all of them and get the girl. But it's probably because his mind is already broken and no longer feel. What if his relationship with the main girl is more about manipulation rather than affection? Since he knew her inside out it's less about mutual love and more about shaping himself to be her perfect man (that irl is not possible)

Starting with Ned

Yep I’d heard 44 years or an entire lifetime but good to know from the Genius himself!!

Wow amazing thank you

Awesome!!

Damn, when I was younger i just thought the loop was a few months. I dunno if i would go mad living the same day over and over again but there's the thought of being immortal while having the time to learn tons of things you wouldn't have the time to learn since most skill take a lot of time to master. Now that I think about it that would be a good power to have as long as you can turn it on and off.

I read in an interview it was 33 years. I think he is screwing with all of us 🤣

One thing I always assumed was that the magic of the timeloop gave him perfect memory so all that info he acquired during the timeloop was locked in but like info he already knew. So he would remember Feb 1 as the day before but all the info gained on Feb 2 (Across the potentially 10,000 years or whatever) was all just info on that day and the timeloop condensed it down.

The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou is a great movie. Maybe not his best, but it's a great cast and script. It's really cool.

Oh yes...The Internet (The Information Super Highway). BUT, in today's modern times, with cell phones, e-mail, face time, and etc. communication is faster and quicker so Phil will learn everything 100 times as fast, therefore learning his lesson and breaking the loop super quick and become that super gentlemen amazing talented beloved guy in the end. In my opinion, no matter how many years it actually was, Phil just needed to phrase key words or sentences together that will allow him to break the loop in a few days. Oh well...Phil was hardheaded and stubborn and a jerk and to much into himself to realize the key words. Good point there SvenicusGermainus.

Groundhogs day with internet access would be near omniscience.

@@accelerator8929 plenty of time to weed out all the fake stuff too, right? all of those web pages that contained inaccurate things that never get fixed the next day for example... (or pages that are down but would have been back up but he starts so never gets to see them)

Porn everyday all day

@@uliloolilu780 Ah yes, a man of true culture

Wow! Extra bonus points for doing this research!! Awesome point!! And your math is spot on! That's a lot of years meeting folks.

Well, but he doesnt have to know each and every person, right? He just needs to know those she asks about. if he doesnt know he can use a few days to find information about that person and try again. rinse repeat until she eventually believes you.

Seth I'm not saying that he got to know every single person in town, just that it's a possibility. When he said "I know everybody" he could have meant that litterly.

lunacron 5 days per person? That seems a bit much. For most people, he basically has a soundbite: "This is Doris. Her brother in law Carl owns this diner, she's worked here since she was 17. More than anything else in her life she wants to see Paris before she dies." He doesn't have to know everything about each person, just enough to impress Rita. Most of the information he has about the patrons is 5 minutes of conversation away for an inquisitive person who's not embarassed to ask some personal questions.

landochabod7 I agree 5 days is a bit much, but I said 5 days per person because that's the amount of time he suggested in the video. Plus the "I'm a god" scene is after he gives up trying to impress her by memorizing every little detail. I like to think that the scene in the diner is really from the heart and he only did it once.

or, living a meaningless life where nothing you do matters is soul crushing and he's happy to escape.

i mean after you leave the loop you could probably get through life as the most interesting man in the world which would be cool. He's got an in at broadcasting too, Just record yourself being a master at all skills and call it a freak accident that set your brain up. But yeah pretty insane. Imagine seeing yourself begin to age on a daily basis again. Like having to re-remember to shave.

thats why i the end of the movie he said he wanted to stay in the town, I think he is in a prison and he cant comprehend another world outside of it

I didn't consider that, but you might be right. He finally got the woman that he wanted though, so maybe he wouldn't care. Maybe he'd even forget all of those time loop days and only remember the original Groundhog Day, before the loop started.

@@jeffgreen3376 better yet would be if he remembers the last one the most, and that's the one that everyone else will remember, and it was his best one. All those other days never even existed to anyone else. Phil really got lucky with his last one being the way it was

Bartolomeo Ramis was a music genius.

and dont forget the times were he actually killed everyone! :)

I hope they make an extremely dark-toned movie with the same concept

@@amalj5456 dr strange 2

@@scoutbite4334 I can say honestly, me, and probably everyone, would end up doing the most unspeakable acts imaginable. I'm talking-- actually, I'll just leave it up to your imagination.

Yes we’ve been living in it through 2020

Excellent story, excellent script, Bill Murray is one of the GOATs -- yup! It's a good show. Very re-watchable, positive message -- it's got it all.

That is AWESOME! What a great story of a movie inspiring change!

That would have definitely ruined the whole movie

Yeah I think it's nice that it wasn't really Supernatural, although it kinda is in nature, but I mean that they didn't show anything, or some mysterious teacher that guides him.

@@kraven4444 Well... it most definitively WAS supernatural? He was trapped in a time loop until he convinced a specific woman to love him... that sure ain't natural?

@@lenajohnson6179 for sure that isn't natural in anyway , what the hell is he talking about. He talks as if its natural , maybe he often finds himself in these loops and doesn't think anything of them

@@descorchedfurnst2790 Obviously Doctor Strange did it.

average number of pages in a book= 400 (Literally googled it and found a result for 100,00 words, but there doesn't seem to be an average number of words per book that's easy to find so screw it this will do!) average number of books in a library = 100,000 (this one was hard for me to find, Walsh university has 132,000 so I would expect a city Library to be a little bit less than a small university library) 400 x 100,000=40,000,000 days~100,000 years Now I accept that my numbers are probably a bit too high, but if we imagine a small library has 1000 books, thats still 1000 years. If we ignore all complicated maths and assume the average book has 365 pages, then each book is a year, so a page a day is more than a lifetime of reading. Imagine how fucked up you would be if you spent just 40 years re-living the same day whilst remaining in your mid 40s, you would want to die, the world would cease to amaze you, I really doubt the average man would stay sane enough to break the loop! With 1000 years dedicated to perfecting skills and learning I cannot imagine his potential outside the loop.

Wow... that is a big number. But honestly to me at least 1,000 years makes more sense than 40 due to not just the skills he learns but also the sheer amount of information he learns about the town, all the people in the town and who knows what else. I also feel like there's so much the film doesn't actually show with him including skills and knowledge. I doubt the only skills the mastered were the ones he showed off. And I feel like even over hundreds or thousands of years he would go through severe ups and downs of sanity. Although 100,000 does seem like a bit too much. The longer the better for me, but at that point it seems like SO much more would have happened to him that the film didn't show that the film would actually be incomplete.

Jared Clark maybe he went nuts and woke up at the start of the day sane again

Hellfire Heroes that would go against what the movie is portraying. He retains memory and emotion from previous days. Saneness is linked with emotion.

Fly Beep possible, but I'm saying maybe mental damage reset the same way physical changes did. You couldn't live 10,000 years of the same 24 hours over and over and not go completely bonkers, I struggle not to lose it on the day to day.

@Scott Sykes He wakes up refreshed already

He could sleep during the day?

I've been taking cold showers for years. Not that bad. You get used to it at around month 18.

@@hunterdakota5271 WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY!!

Big Max Music imagine ten years of no showers? Even if it doesn’t affect your hygiene, that’s still pretty weird

No, that's in a deleted scene, which we did not count for the purposes of our analysis (because it's not an 'official' part of the movie).

@@mosh2225 DELETED SCENES??? I've seen (pun) none of those!

That would be the version if it were me instead of Phil.

That’s a life sentence what you did wakes up in county 😂

That's what I've always thought he had no way of knowing when the loop would break and got extremely lucky

Yes, the 10-40 years tally requires a _lot_ of focused learning of things that make more sense if they were learned organically. Even the things that were learned with more intensity (like the piano) seem suppressed by a strange assumption that he only learned how to play the things we see him perform. IMO, it's much more likely he can play pretty much anything and the song selections shown were arbitrary. Certainly that's the way it's played off in the film. If so, then he probably spent 10+ years on the piano alone.

@@Oswlek I remember when the piano teacher said she was busy until Phil pulled out a stack of cash. She throws the kid out the door. LOL I love that movie

I agree. Who learns just two songs on the piano really well but can’t play anything else? The clear implication of the film is that he learned to play the piano to an expert level, he actually learned to speak French (not just learned a couple of sentences), etc. Each of these things is years of work, and he probably didn’t start them immediately, having spent huge amounts of time in depression. So I would say if not centuries then at least multiple decades.

@@willmosse3684, "at least multiple decades" So like three or four decades, thirty or forty years?

notahotshot - at a minimum

just imagine your in that movie living the same day over and over again

What is the name

Hyreia, what was the name of the story?

Imagine dropping a bombshell of a story only to dissapear from the internet

😂

Well no, in the beginning of the film it's 1st February, and the film ends on 3rd February

Got em

The real answer is probably about 6 months because the title of the video is "Groundhog Day lasts HOW LONG for Bill Murray?". It doesn't say Phil. So how long it lasts for Bill Murray would be however long it took to film the movie.

Eh, I wouldn't mind waking up to "I Got You, Babe" for thousands of years. It's probably the least annoying easy-listening song.

Theroux Now that is Cher hell!!!!!!

NO PATS JIM Hearing Cher 1 time is enough

Where did you get a 10k estimate from?

MS the book

❤️ Yes! He saw the good in others and became love. Once he became love, he found it with Rita.

@@carmendelgado105That's right. I've wondered how things looked from others' points of view, particularly Rita's. One day, she's sitting in a van on the way to Punxsutawney with this obnoxious jerk who's rude and depressed, talking about leaving work and not caring about what anyone besides himself thinks about anything. And then, which to them was the next day, Phil is suddenly charming, articulate, sensitive and caring, is an awesome pianist and ice sculptor, and woos Rita so much with what she sees as this amazing 180. Rita and the others only remember the day they drove to Punxsutawney and Phil's last repeated day where he was this great guy and totally charmed her, which was also her first and only day there, until they both woke up together Feb 3. All of those other Feb 2 days, including Phil's first one before the loop began, never existed to Rita or anyone else

It is, and that's just how I see it as well. Also, see my above reply to Carmen Delgato

@@carmendelgado105 Also, can you imagine how it would've been to Rita's point of view on, for example, one of the Feb 2 days Phil killed himself? She one day sees this arrogant self centered guy and then the next day sees him flip out and drive a pickup off a cliff and explode on impact.

But he was a master at several things

Watch the movie with her a few days before that, so the concept of a time loop will be fresh on her mind.

@@jeffgreen3376 She won’t believe him in this case.

So how did it went?

April 1st is too obvious

How did it went?

Muscle memory is still on your brain though.

Even if you wer to loose msucle memory, you would still be awkwardly good at something, only be sheer known theory. For example, even if you owuldn't be "good" at piano, you would remmebr hand placements, know how to read and play without looking, or not as much, as a new player. BAsically you would pick up the skills at an exteme speed

@@shorebreakers96 Have you lost muscle memory recently?

I think this plot line probably defies a full scientific analysis

It's like riding a bike.

The director didn't say decades, he said 10 years. That is one decade

The director changed it to 30-40 years.

robert hough deleted scenes don’t count, but it’s still worth looking at I guess

@@alexpollock6932: I figure they'd count because they "happened," we just didn't get to see them... just as his trips to the bathroom, say, or sick days he might have spent in bed or even in a hospital.

KutWrite sick days doesn’t really make sense

From what I'm to understand it was originally supposed to be 10,000 years but things were changed by the director and certain things became unnecessary to the story. So to me it seems the number of years he was in the loop was originally supposed to be a long time, but eventually got brought down to a shorter time frame. In my personal opinion I think it was something around 30-40 years. At least that's what my guess is from the research I've done and what I believe to be the true answer as it seems difficult to find the true one.

yeah i think that's why he lived 30-40 years

Infrared Sight nope 6 minutes...AND ONE SECOND

6:01 because we're out of the loop finally. How many years were we in there? hey it is 6 minutes, you lying poo poo pants

Check tomorrow!

Yeah like he never lied. I think he just met everyone that went down down town

For most people I agree

Hmm..... Not a bad idea...

Emily Blunt is HOOTTTT!!

Such a shame that in the manga the protagonist kept writing a number on the back of his hand every time he woke up after dying, and at the end the way he sees the world and time makes him more alien than the pacmen he is fighting.

Roy Redfield okay then that went from 0-100 really quick

@coke man I love that movie!

SimpleMan.45 Same. I'd master everything in the world before I move on to knowing anything about anyone I can before I move on to the next day.

@@NativS2002 Well...why arent you doing that now?? I was thinking the same thing, but then I realized that I do have time to learn to play piano, I have time to read every book on my shelf,I have time to learn french,ice skating,dancing,a bunch of other things I want to learn....I do have time to be nice to people, and learn about their lives... BUUUUUUT I am not doing that.Think about it.You can always find 20 minutes of the day when you are doing nothing, when you are staring at your clothes without really thinking what to wear, when you are on the toilet thinking you are being interviewed by Graham Norton, or when you watch Graham Norton (srsly, what use we have of knowing lives of celebrities??) or when you are wasting your time on Instagram or Snapchat (like, We know it is 8:30,there is no reason to see it 10 times on the 10 different picture of the trees from 10 different people)...Basically we have our Groundhog day-it called life.Everyday is the same anyway.But we are not using it(Well, at least I am not using it...)

@@Ja-zz2gn You make a good point

Ja 123 are you doing that now?

@@Ja-zz2gn Because people need rest and most people can't keep that up.

Every time my roommate turns on CNN, I feel that the news is in a time loop. The same Covid crap every day.

Just two more weeks of lockdown!

@@Danebrogen1 Is that what the groundhog suggests?

I thought that too at first, but even when depressed we have to do SOMETHING. And there never being anything new on tv, or internet porn, or friends or family to hang with, the only thing to do is learn skills, even if you dont really want to you would out of boredom, honestly I would of spent 30 seconds throwing cards into a hat before going out and picking fights with people just to learn how to fight

Yeah he did not count the 3 years where he just laid in bed trying to go back to sleep.

Ha! Yup.... I think you speak for most of us!

wouldnt you have to play the same level over and over though?

Chip Higgens that is true but imagine how fast you'd get at it, you'd become speedrunner tier

Roguelikes lol

And then it will be over and you will for the rest of your life wonder what force made you live the same day over and over. never finding the answer, never trusting research because you always know that there is something freaky going on that others don’t know about. who or what did this too you? why? have others had the same experience? are people having it right now?

I think it's best left to the imagination rather then the actual answer

Groundhog magic

I think I’m happy they didn’t tell us how he got into the loop and how the loop became broken. The movie leaves it up to the viewer’s imagination rather than some predictable cliché like magic. Maybe Ned just really wanted Phil to get life insurance and the loop broke when he finally got insurance lol

In the original script, Phil's ex girlfriend throws a hex on him to relive Feb 2nd. Would you like that version more than the mysterious one we cherish so much?

That's what I thought and I don't think that he took piano lessons in the very last days so the teacher must not even know him as his student??

Or giving birth countless times haha

That poor mom...

You're

Bob Dylan She won’t remember it, it’s not that bad.

Pussy everyday bro

Woodstock I'll. Straight down Rt 47 people there don't know Groundhog Day was filmed there.

@IPA SOLÉ yeah, we've had this discussion countless times😳😁

It's probably not that much different to white room torture. Phil would have completely lost his mind and eventually have gone brain dead. Not to mention the atrocities Phil likely committed in those 30+ years because nothing mattered at that point.

Great insight, Scott! The movie is very zen. Be your best self, accept what is and your problems go away.

The other thing he had to learn was not to be a douche to everyone.

Soon as he stopped pursuing her and became worthy, he won her. Not that she was so unobtainable, she was just a nice, sweet person who deserved better than what he was.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. Gandhi

A couple other comments around here actually support that, namely some deleted scenes where he read a page from a book in the library every day supports that. edit: sorry if I don't make sense, I'm incredibly tired

Will Cook nah, you made plenty of sense. Lol. For a moment I thought I was the only one that remembered the behind the scenes and I even started 2nd guessing myself until I popped in the DVD and rewatched it.

A thousand years??? Not even close to that.

Damien Green I'm just saying what the old behind the scenes said. Just pick up the Old dvd if you have it. And you'll see what I mean. All they said is that they intended it to be 1000 years. Doesn't mean that's what they ultimately decided up it 'canonically'.

@@piroshi3rd yeah, I thought so too. I remember seeing another video that he was actually in the loop for like thousands of years...

Lyca31 I'm currently at four weeks trust me its sickening.

What?!!

Stonemansteve II I've been ill four six weeks.

There's a difference between healthy or ill for 10 years.

The was 40 years that's fact.

You would basically lose the perception of time after all that time

Mark R - Great story of you and your roommate. Love it! Thanks for sharing. As for your estimate, I feel like you’re dead on. Our total of 12 years doesn’t account for time he must’ve spent goofing off doing other things, which doesn’t really short in the movie, so is impossible to measure. Anyway, great movie, thanks for the comment!

Honestly, a life like that would be a blissing and a curse. You could literally do anything you want and the day will just repeat, allowing you to do what ever you want. But after living through the same day over and over for years would get boring. It will get to the point where you literally know everything. You could read every book, burn every book. You could befriend everyone and kill everyone. You could do whatever you'd like but once you do it, it becomes just another thing you've done. And once you've exhausted all possibilities, you will break the loop, only to find yourself in a scary world. Nothing is predictable anymore, the future is now real again, that sense of control you had is gone and than you wish you were back in that loop. That would be a miserable existence. To live through the same day over and over only to give up that power ovef boredom, and being unprepared for the future.

Elite gamer - I completely agree. I would believe his future to be a bit bleak after coming out of the loop: His relationship with Rita is extremely stilted, having known her intimate details and been an acquaintance of her for so many years while she has only the time that she’d spent with him out of the time loop. He may feel more power over her, or have expectations from her that could potentially push her away in the long run. Having suicidal ideations - and following through with them - countless of times, would surely have a lasting mental effect. Not to mention the unpredictable world. He’d probably be too scared to even cross the street now.

@@elitegamer9310 I see a lot of Flowey in this analysis, who I assume you're probably referencing?? Either way I agree with what you said.

@@limitbreaker909 You're right. I was reminded of Flowey's situation and it's very similar to Groundhogs day. Major difference is that Phil leaves through the same day not entirely out of his free will. Flowey can live through days, weeks, months and even years before he decides to loop. His problem though was that he was trapped in an enclosed environment, where boredom was more easy to come by.

will give such a crick in the neck.

God damn it I was going to reply that.

FEEL THE HATRED OF 10,000 YEARS!

10,000 years. That's what I heard

I think so too. How many years was he depressed and suicidal? How many years did he spend going crazy? How long did it take to memorize every fact about every person in town?

I dunno. I find the content available on netflix surprisingly dull. I rather quickly ran out of things I could actually be bothered to watch...

@@KuraIthys so many subpar originals, and most of the good stuff is bingeable in a day or already cancelled

than*

About 15 years alone trying to decide what to watch

a lot*

Great comment--and yes, it's easy to discount athletes or experts as merely "gifted," when the truth is they're 'gifted' because they spent thousands of hours on their craft.

He probably did try, but he had no control over it,so it is most likely that he would just wake up at 6:00 in bed again , without even falling asleep....

He did

Noobly He did. He just blacked out and woke up the day before.

He did. You see him laying in bed watching the clock tick over from 5:59AM to 6:00AM, at which point he opens his eyes to the song playing.

@@trequor exactly, it was like he just blincked in the last second before 6:00am

He became A god, not THE God, at least he doesn't think.

So they might be more than 12 years. Imagine him going through depression and not being able to advance (or even leave the bed) for a couple of years...

well he did commit suicide numerous times so he went pretty nuts too.

panner11 why would you think that attempting to commit suicide is evidence of going nuts rather than a perfectly rational response to an unbearable situation?

John Hill because suicide is nearly always irrational. It ends everything, going against human instinct to stay alive.

Keepyupy yes but he couldn’t escape nothing mattered he would reset every day

Thank YOU Eugen! Glad you liked it! Excellent movie, and this was a very fun project to take on!

Glad you enjoyed it!

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People in the Balkans be like : /

If I had to choose one day to live over and over again, it would be January 14, 1973. That's the day that the Miami Dolphins won the Super Bowl and completed the perfect season.

Dank Potatoes LOL he only needed to know the people in the cafe. It’s literally the same people every single day.

But he is not just learning about the people in the cafe. He clearly also knows plenty of others, concidering how in the final scene where he plays piano lots of people who werent in the cafe approach him at random and applaud him, as he seemingly knows them well

Dank Potatoes yes but that still doesn’t mean that he knows even 10% of the 8000 people that live there

you only THINK they where picked at random, it's the same group of people in the diner at the same time every day, so he only needed to learn some basic information about each one of them, it only appears "random" to you because you don't know how many times he's been in that diner on that day at that time or how many times he tried to convince her of this fact, learning only the next person in his path till he got enough to convince her.

@@Anonymos185 and all those people are on the same path he takes everyday, think of it like you go to work, well you see the same group of people everyday eventually you get to know them, but you NEVER meet the people in the building next door, 1 block over or across town.