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Grow HUGE Quadriceps with This Unpopular Exercise

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In this video, Dr. Milo Wolf reveals the 'secret exercise' he uses to grow his quads, backs it up with scientific literature, and tells you how to do it step-by-step.
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"Grow HUGE Quadriceps with This Unpopular Exercise"
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@gillpeakperformance4945
@gillpeakperformance4945 Ай бұрын
Stronger By Science has a quality article on reverse Nordic curls as well. I may be somewhat biased though since I wrote it. Lol
@reallyeffingcooltechnodude
@reallyeffingcooltechnodude Ай бұрын
That article is the reason I tried reverse nordics for the first time! I also picked up the bodyweight scapular protraction from your article about most commonly neglected muscles. Good stuff!
@theviewer9305
@theviewer9305 10 күн бұрын
Lol I bookmarked this vid, another and that article. Seems like I'm on the right track to finally figuring a Leg Extension alternative!
@wraethcs2
@wraethcs2 Ай бұрын
It's a great exercise. I started doing it 2 months ago from your recommendation, and the pump + burn on the quads is unreal. I can even feel my knee tendon! My only objection with this exercise is that it is called the reverse Nordic curl and not Nordic Extension lol
@rockyevans1584
@rockyevans1584 Ай бұрын
My triceps are still sore from my reverse hammer curls the other day
@ozanselcuk1055
@ozanselcuk1055 Ай бұрын
Many years later we will start to call them nordic extensions and this will be to comment that started it all
@kostasprototype
@kostasprototype Ай бұрын
"Nordic Extensions" sounds legitimate.
@Eluass123
@Eluass123 Ай бұрын
Yeah what's up with the naming lol
@douglasauruss
@douglasauruss Ай бұрын
@@rockyevans1584 My shoulders are fried from reverse lat prayers
@joseppebatman
@joseppebatman Ай бұрын
I’ve been pushing this, pistol squats and Nordic curls for years in order to defend bodyweight leg training and people call me stupid lol. Glad to see it getting love
@rockyevans1584
@rockyevans1584 Ай бұрын
For years eh, well you're only stupid if your legs are small
@LeanAndMean44
@LeanAndMean44 Ай бұрын
To be fair training your legs with body weight is kinda like training your shoulders with arm-weight
@ginoyesano5649
@ginoyesano5649 Ай бұрын
@@LeanAndMean44 Not when it comes to Nordic curls, bodyweight is very heavy for this exercise
@snakejazz
@snakejazz Ай бұрын
@@LeanAndMean44 that's assuming weight is the only factor to reaching muscle hypertrophy, which is not true
@flow1188
@flow1188 Ай бұрын
@@snakejazz Its True, but how many Reps you want to do ?? Its like with Pushups. 3 Sets of 150 Pushups after some Years ?? Thats not Real sorry. Ive tried to integrated deficit Pushups in my Chest routine as a finisiher. But even when its my last excercise i need in every Set a minimum of 30 reps to get close to failure. I tried Sissy Squat since i look Milos Videos. i did 3 Sets Sissy Squat of 20 Reps and felt nothing. even when i stretched them insanely
@danielkanewske8473
@danielkanewske8473 Ай бұрын
I started performing reverse nordic curls after you introduced them to me through your channel. They are my new favorite quad exercise! Thank you Dr Wolf
@warrenhenning8064
@warrenhenning8064 Ай бұрын
You can give yourself assistance on the reverse Nordic curl by holding on to a cable attachment. More weight makes it easier. This also helps keep yourself stable. Then you can progress gradually by giving yourself less assistance, similar to assisted pullups/dips. You can put your legs on a mat to make it less painful on your ankles/knees. I do them on a deadlift crash mat where my foot can partially hang off the end. That helps distribute the weight more comfortably.
@FugaziTrading
@FugaziTrading Ай бұрын
Bro that's great advice, thanks
@LeanAndMean44
@LeanAndMean44 Ай бұрын
All cool but somehow my hamstrings hurt when doing this lol My ankles are meh with it
@ephraim1995
@ephraim1995 Ай бұрын
You can also use a rubber band and do them assisted
@srleplay
@srleplay Ай бұрын
I started doing them when I found out about you talking about importance of loading in stretch position, by far the best quad exercise, SFR is through the roof and work capacity for whole program is way greater now that I don't have to worry about squat variations contributing to axial fatigue and messing up my lower back
@liamsloan5410
@liamsloan5410 6 күн бұрын
I use it the same way. I'm a powerlifter and having quad and glute accessories that don't add axial fatigue is a game changer
@kingrix
@kingrix Ай бұрын
I just added reverse Nordic curls to my leg day based on your recommendation in a previous video. I'm definitely feeling them and am looking forward to that rectus femoris growth.
@stephensimon7621
@stephensimon7621 Ай бұрын
for guys learning this movement or not strong enough yet, you an use a high pully with flat bar as an assist. slowly reducing the weight.
@jonnyincognito899
@jonnyincognito899 Ай бұрын
Or a band
@sergiotorrijos3108
@sergiotorrijos3108 Ай бұрын
Using cable to assist is way better than a band, in order to make the lengthened part more challenging 👌
@LeanAndMean44
@LeanAndMean44 Ай бұрын
Took me a while to figure out what you meant but it makes sense 😅
@LeanAndMean44
@LeanAndMean44 Ай бұрын
Ok but how can I justify doing this exercise in the cable place that’s always super crowded anyway Surely someone will complain Anyway if I do it how much weight?
@sergiotorrijos3108
@sergiotorrijos3108 Ай бұрын
@@LeanAndMean44 send them this video hahaha. Maybe like a 10-15% of your bodyweight, and I love using the rope instead of a bar. Good luck!!
@danpaul4975
@danpaul4975 Ай бұрын
This is actually my favourite exercise for quads, the stretch from both ends is phenomenal
@jmikemc446
@jmikemc446 Ай бұрын
I've started doing this because I do not have in my basement gym a good way to do leg extensions, and I really like these!
@ghabrielF
@ghabrielF Ай бұрын
Yesterday I tried this on my leg day for the first time. Initially it felt weird, but I was able to make it more confortable by rotating my feet out. I did 3 sets of around 7 reps using a band for assistance.The pump on my quads was amazing with less fatigue than I usually get from legs extension. First impression was super positive, gonna keep improving my technique and going deeper!
@fatbob1999
@fatbob1999 Ай бұрын
Do you mind sharing how you used the bands for assistance?
@pedrojorge2741
@pedrojorge2741 Ай бұрын
@@fatbob1999 lock the band to something around head height or a bit higher and a bit distanced from you in the front. Place the band around your back bellow your armpits.
@ghabrielF
@ghabrielF Ай бұрын
@@fatbob1999 just like Jeff Nippard did here on minute 21 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rKpdl6idnLiWcps.htmlsi=udXTPFMBTn8PTjf-
@liamsloan5410
@liamsloan5410 6 күн бұрын
​@pedrojorge2741 you can also just hold the band in your hands but resist the urge to pull yourself up with anything other than your quads
@bojanrajacic5045
@bojanrajacic5045 Ай бұрын
I dislocate my shoulder on upper days to get better stretch, then get in cast till next Monday for maximal gains
@Riizet
@Riizet Ай бұрын
Bro is stretchmaxxing and restmaxxing 🙏
@BreadWithPasta
@BreadWithPasta Ай бұрын
Optimal training for maximum hypertrophy
@ProphetFear
@ProphetFear Ай бұрын
Some people came up with a lift called a Handsome press/curl btw.
@oumarh.gassama8063
@oumarh.gassama8063 Ай бұрын
Instantly subscribed. Thanks for the video!
@mysticmarval
@mysticmarval Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this brother! My wife and I have the privilege of being able to use a device called the “Neubie” with our training. It allows us to either tell the muscle fibers to lengthen or contract based on the selected setting. We have been using it this week on a lengthening setting to stretch and get deeper into the position for this exercise. Eventually we can switch to using contractions and focus on hypertrophy. So far, we are feeling tension in areas on our quads that we have not felt before and are very appreciative. Thank you so much for all you do brother and keep being awesome!
@brianjackson4177
@brianjackson4177 Ай бұрын
Honestly love this and have been doing in the home gym since -no extension machine.
@LeanAndMean44
@LeanAndMean44 Ай бұрын
The reason it’s unpopular is many people don’t have the flexibility for it, it looks foolish to do, and any normal untrained person is probably not sting enough to go far or even fully down.
@wuchtbertvonliftingen
@wuchtbertvonliftingen Ай бұрын
It's a great exercise, but as you say, you have to give it some time to get used to it. If necessary, you should also put some padding under your knees. For example, I can't do them on the floor without pain. But with 1-2 cushions under my knees it works very well (might look weird in a public gym, but when training at home... definitely worth a try). You can also use a resistance band attached to the rack in front of you for this exercise. This allows you to do more repetitions, helps you to get into the exercise, perform it with a controlled motion and also gives you something to hold on to with the band, adding some felt security.
@tmiller12051
@tmiller12051 Ай бұрын
“Only if you really hate yourself” is a great way to describe an intensity technique haha
@killerkhatiby009
@killerkhatiby009 Ай бұрын
You can get a lot of the same benefits of a reverse nordic but in a more stable/comfortable position by doing cable leg extensions using a bench + ankle straps connected to a low pulley. Set the pulley height to maximize tension in the stretch position and you've got an even better exercise than reverse nordics IMO. Requires less core stabilization and is easier to start doing full ROM or lengthened partials and load/progress and doesn't rely on bodyweight which may fluctuate overtime.
@liamsloan5410
@liamsloan5410 6 күн бұрын
Yeah but how do you set this up solo?
@toddloggins4596
@toddloggins4596 10 күн бұрын
I Love this!! Thank you Milo
@douglasauruss
@douglasauruss Ай бұрын
Pumped for Myoadapt in the next few months! Or whenever it's out. I don't care if it's perfect or a little buggy at the beginning.
@RicoPenguin
@RicoPenguin Ай бұрын
A good approach I can recommend to this exercise is support yourself with TRX bands. This way you can go all the way down while being supported with your hands on TRX. It gives you modality of weight you put at bottom position and that you can reach bottom at first approach. Moreover it clears my anxiety of falling down or breaking my knees 😅
@Br0_dir
@Br0_dir Ай бұрын
Going to put this in the one of my leg days, got Sissy Squats in one and my Rectus Femoris has such a good stimulus. So Reverse Nordics on another leg day would be a great addition 😊
@harrygrossman4378
@harrygrossman4378 Ай бұрын
I do this exercise all the time on leg day & absolutely love it! I'm currently using a band for assistance but working up to using nothing
@Anandfulness
@Anandfulness Ай бұрын
I like the music on this one. Good job. Great info as always.
@killerkhatiby009
@killerkhatiby009 Ай бұрын
Dr. Wolf, with exercises like reverse nordics and doing only lengthened partials are you concerned with lacking functional strength/ability in shortened positions which may impact longevity and movement ability as people age and possibly make people more injury prone? Basically, if your primary goal is hypertrophy but you also want functional strength and mobility long-term to combat age related degeneration, would you recommend incorporating full ROM exercises which emphasize tension at different points throughout the ROM?
@dougbrad82
@dougbrad82 Ай бұрын
Standing single leg cable extension also viable, pick this up from Dr. Eric Helms
@autongnosis33
@autongnosis33 Ай бұрын
Just a few inputs i can give cause I've got those in my program for almost two years now. First is i like to keep my spine a bit more neutral than what you show here and go much deeper, ideally almost with your scapulae toiching the floor at the bottom, but that might not be for everyone (if you have big hamstrings i don't think its even possible to flex that far back without arching excessively). A nice thing i started incorporating lately is to do a mechanical dropset after the RNC by doing a hip flexion from a seiza position (knees and shins on the ground, butt on the heels) that really hammers the rectus femoris which i found works mostly as stabilisation during the RNC, i found that i can pump out as many reps as i did with RNC with that to really mess up my quads in general. I also found it helped me tremendously with running (works the rectus femoris from the same extended position you find yourself in when your back leg needs to be pushed forwards). As for loadability if you can strap your lower leg on the ground you can hold a dumbbell at chest height, and even a light dumbbell makes it much much harder because of the lever lenght. Heck if you're big even just holding your arms crossed at chest height instead of along your torso makes a lot of difference. If you can't strap your lower leg you can hold something like a plate or dumbbell at hip/abdomen height byt the lever lenght is short and it's not very effective, but at that point with free legs if you hold anything past 5-10% bw you're gonna tip backwards at the bottom of the rep (not a pleasant experience lemme tell you 😂). The good thing is as you said loading might not even be necessary, I'm very very light and i do endurance and trail running so i kinda need it at 125lb bw but pretty much all lifters weight much more than that 😂😂😂
@jobthooft5235
@jobthooft5235 Ай бұрын
How do you do hip flexion from the seiza position? Do you move your upper body backwards?
@autongnosis33
@autongnosis33 Ай бұрын
@jobthooft5235 exactly, hinge at the hip backwards using your abs to stabilise only, and pull your torso back up. If you do it correctly you should feel the contraction and the burn directly on your rectus femoris which is a weird feeling (you feel it as a deep burn instead of a superficial one) Be also mindful during the movement you are actually rotating your hips back and not just extending your spine and slightly tilting the pelvis otherwise the exercise becomes a very ineffective weird looking crunch 🤣
@jobthooft5235
@jobthooft5235 Ай бұрын
@@autongnosis33 thanks for your comments. Do you not tip over backwards when doing this? If I move my torso backwards with my hips on my heels I will fall backwards
@autongnosis33
@autongnosis33 Ай бұрын
@jobthooft5235 not usually no, I have a small upper body tho. Probably slightly elevating your feet with like a rolled up towel might help with the tipping, or just going slightly less backwards
@migliore44
@migliore44 Ай бұрын
my pro tip: do this at a lat pulldown machine (or cable pully) on the floor and use it as a way to deload the weight if you are not strong enough to do them yourself, people will stare for sure and think you're stupid, but their probably a bunch of life long intermediates on gear anyway.
@alaaentabi7879
@alaaentabi7879 Ай бұрын
tried this and the fkin cable didnt reach lmao ,. looked extra stupid
@migliore44
@migliore44 Ай бұрын
@@alaaentabi7879 ahh depends on the machine i guess, some cables wont go down far enough. could try regular cable pully, but might not be enough room at the bottom for your knees.
@user-he4ef9br7z
@user-he4ef9br7z Ай бұрын
​@@alaaentabi7879Same. Do this with the cable rack.
@deanradley65
@deanradley65 Ай бұрын
Bands are really good for this as they assist the most in the hardest part of the exercise.
@Abe_3000
@Abe_3000 Ай бұрын
Bands resistance curve are more ideal. More assistance at higher angle (when most needed), although it defeats the objective of higher load at lengthened portion but a good way to progress
@Yajoy-kh3kc
@Yajoy-kh3kc Ай бұрын
10:16 the most significant factor for comfort personally is not the ground softness but keeping my shoes on. That prevents pain through the maintained extension of the feet, which causes me more pain than at the knees. Worth to try it out if someone struggles with it too.
@EricBohm
@EricBohm Ай бұрын
I started doing these last week and they've been good for me. I used to max out the front leg extension machine for 12-15, but on these I'm struggling to get 6-8.
@LeanAndMean44
@LeanAndMean44 Ай бұрын
Maxing out the extension machine 😳 I only have one gym bro who can do that for reps
@EricBohm
@EricBohm Ай бұрын
@@LeanAndMean44 It really depends on the machine. The ones at my gym barely get more than 90 degree angle, so even maxing it out at 240 lbs is just a bunch of shortened partials. Your machine may be heavier, have a wider angle, or a less favorable pulley arrangement.
@greysonhoffman3647
@greysonhoffman3647 Ай бұрын
To add a little bit more resistance, you can also lift your arms above your heads. My college fitness coach used to have us do this for sit-ups and it seems to increase the sensitivity
@Yeargdribble
@Yeargdribble Ай бұрын
I've been a fan of these for years, but I have a few things to add because I feel like you're looking at the issue of loading backward. For most lifters, it's not going to be about adding weight but subtracting it to be able to actually do quality reps and more easily progressively overload. One strategy I've used is resistance bands, but an even better option is cables. You can counter your body weight so that you can get fully deep no matter your level of strength starting out. This will help you lock in form a lot and will give the benefit of letting you slowly move the pin up the stack as you need less accommodating resistance over time. Being able to go full depth even at the start is better than a short ROM at the top. It can also let you do high rep work . Even if you can get several head to the floor full range reps, you might want to do some occasional work in the 12-30 range, and accommodating resistance really allows for this. It's also a way to warm up for these. You would start squats by slapping several plates on at ehat would be your 5RM or even 8RM. The mistake a lot of people make with things like pull ups as well is not using something to let them warm up that movement at a weight they could comfortably get somewhere from 12-20 reps with. Very few people can do that with BW pull-ups or reverse nordics. This can lead to drastically compromised form in an effort to complete them motion rather than engage the proper muscles and then those ha its stick.
@AC57001
@AC57001 Ай бұрын
i disagree, they're tough but not THAT hard. if a lifter can't do reps of these without weight they're probably new enough that most exercises give them good gains.
@timk8258
@timk8258 Ай бұрын
I’m not sure cable assistance is better than bands for these, or regular Nordic curls, due to the extreme resistance curve of the exercises. The cable assistance is constant which means that if you use enough load to help you in the bottom, it’s going to make the rest of the movement too easy and almost pull you up after a certain point. Bands help more in the bottom where you need it and less at the top where you don’t, while still retaining a lengthened bias profile overall.
@Yeargdribble
@Yeargdribble Ай бұрын
@@AC57001 A mistake a lot of people who are good at anything making assumptions about what is easy and hard for people who are way less advanced than them. Sure, maybe squats could be a more basic builder for absolute beginners, but reverse nordics for me aren't about being the big overall quad growth. They are a rec fem isolation movement. Also, I see plenty of guys doing 4 plate squats in the gym... with a 3 inch RoM. Yeah, that's easier... but many of those people couldn't do a slow, controlled set of 8 with any decent depth and they aren't getting much stretch. It's a similar idea here with reverse Nordics. I kinda disagree that the progression should be about increasing range of motion over time just like I'd never advocate someone to start with a 2 plate squat and only increase depth over time. I'd tell them start with the bar, get good depth and technique. then increase weight without compromising that technique with shortened RoM. Same idea for the reverse Nordics. Using increased depth as progression, in my opinion, is less effectively than finding a way to get maximum depth from the start and increase weight (or rather, decrease accommodating resistance). Like I said, I'm doing this head to the floor. Granted, I have very good mobility, but I also think that should be a goal just like I'd tell people who claim they can't squat deep to work on their angle mobility. I doubt most people can do reverse Nordics head to the floor at BW for serious reps as a beginner. And Milo here is talking about an ass to grass squat for 4 plates and he is talking about how hard getting a lot of BW reps on reverse Nordics is. They are actually very difficult and the technique is really easy to fuck up (mostly by using hip flexors or doing weird shit with your back).
@Yeargdribble
@Yeargdribble Ай бұрын
@@timk8258 I want movements to be harder at the bottom. Hell, that is damn near the whole premise of Milo's channel. All else being equal I'd prefer partials at the bottom than shallow reps at the top. I want LESS help at the bottom and I probably just won't come up that far. If you get anywhere near perpendicular, you've lost tension on the rec fem anyway. For me, damn near 45 degree is is the top end of the RoM and I'm going all the way down to perpendicular to the floor (head to the ground). I feel like one of the biggest mistakes people make when training for hypertrophy in general is being so worried about finishing the rep at all cost. The goal isn't to get to the top, it's the exhaust the muscle. I'm not worried about getting to the end range on reverse Nordics. I'm worried about exhausting the hell out of my rec fem specifically (usually following a more general quad builder). Most of my final reps are me only getting a few inches of motion. Partials at the bottom. Hell, that's even what the research using a leg extension machine showed to have better growth. I'm just applying that same principle to the reverse Nordic. It's very hard to progressively overload and actually track progress with band and it's very easy to help yourself more than you intend to or on a vastly different curve set to set. But if you do it with cables, there's no cheating. There's no using your upper body more to overcome the weight. You're locked in.
@timk8258
@timk8258 Ай бұрын
@@YeargdribbleReverse Nordics already have an extremely lengthened biased resistance curve. If you need assistance, you probably just need enough to get moving out of the bottom position. Using more than that isn’t going to add stimulus, it’s just going to mean there’s less useful range of motion to go through. If you find a band that’s just enough to help where you need it the exercise will still be lengthened biased but will have more than 10 degrees of ROM where there’s meaningful resistance. I think trying to take a movement like this and worrying about maximizing just *how* lengthened biased it is doesn’t make sense. If you take this stuff to that extreme you might as well do max length isometric holds. Also it seems kind of silly to worry about meticulously tracking incremental progressive overload on an exercise like this. Just use the lightest band you can and add reps until you can do 20 or more, then use a lighter band. Repeat until you can do it without assistance. Add reps with body weight until you are ready to hold a 5 or 10 lb plate while you do it. It doesn’t need to be that complicated.
@Metalkake
@Metalkake Ай бұрын
Thank you for this tutorial sir 🙏
@LNBarbell
@LNBarbell Ай бұрын
Hey Milo, can you make a video on muscle maturity? I’m interested in what the science says
@1TieDye1
@1TieDye1 Ай бұрын
Pretty sure science says precisely nothing about it.
@EvanZamir
@EvanZamir Ай бұрын
Milo, you have a clear opportunity here to partner with an equipment company to make an RNC machine. The lack of a machine is probably what is preventing most people (including myself) from bothering with this exercise. Just a thought!
@kwerby3285
@kwerby3285 Ай бұрын
Could be like one of those lower back machines but operates like an assisted pullup machine
@autongnosis33
@autongnosis33 Ай бұрын
You can use a cable machine to assist you on the exercise actually, or bands, but bands are worse in that they assist you more the lower you go which is kind of the opposite of what you want here.
@1TieDye1
@1TieDye1 Ай бұрын
No machine needed. A cable machine or band+any rack is pleasant
@EvanZamir
@EvanZamir Ай бұрын
@@1TieDye1 No machine is needed for a lot of exercises that have machines.
@adamcooper8463
@adamcooper8463 Ай бұрын
Great video and very interesting, will give this a go. Only one question, would you say this is an overall quad builder or more similar f the ‘top’ of the quad? I ask because I don’t see much ‘tension’ or stretch at the knee area? What’s the thoughts on this?
@Flahtort
@Flahtort Ай бұрын
Yeah! Already doing that one) Seen it from you. When you see it for the rirst time and analize benefits - you get surpized how goot it is
@gmelliot19
@gmelliot19 Ай бұрын
Best superset for legs is: Exercise 1: RDL Exercise 2: Sissy squats or reverse nordics
@DexFlex_YT
@DexFlex_YT Ай бұрын
You can also do a matrix quad blaster Elevated with way more range of motion i already do pendulum sissy squats And reverse Nordic
@plastikmaiden
@plastikmaiden Ай бұрын
@Jujimufu did a video with Chris Duffin where they highlighted the benefits of the reverse nordic. It's always cool to see science confirm and explain existing methods!
@gregorycocco9043
@gregorycocco9043 Ай бұрын
Started doing these. Thanks
@birdman4birdlegs
@birdman4birdlegs Ай бұрын
Does this mean we get a video on regular nordic curls now?!
@immolatewarlock6542
@immolatewarlock6542 Ай бұрын
Never heard of it but today is leg day so I'll try it.
@bobkelly8644
@bobkelly8644 Ай бұрын
I gave these a try. Seems like I couldn't lean back very far - not sure if that was a physical limit or fear. I had a bed behind me to catch me. Even with this slight lean, it was quite challenging and gave a bit of a burn in the quads. Great thing is that I can do this in the bedroom at any time. Don't have to wait for a gym session. Thanks for the suggestion.
@Raj-zt6hf
@Raj-zt6hf Ай бұрын
I love these technique videos! More!
@gmelliot19
@gmelliot19 Ай бұрын
Landmine sissy squats are better than reverse nordics for a stretch emphasis leg exercise. Why? 1) Landmine setup lets you progressively overload movement more easily than reverse nordic. 2) Landmine setup increases external load at bottom position and reduces external load at top position You can also perform sissy squats with lengthened partials if you want.
@1TieDye1
@1TieDye1 Ай бұрын
Your second point applies to reverse nordics. The moment arm of your body on your knee joint is longest at the bottom and shortens on the way up, so resistance is highest at the bottom
@gmelliot19
@gmelliot19 Ай бұрын
@@1TieDye1 No. I wrote external load not moment arm. Whats unique about the landmine setup you are supporting more of the load at the bottom but less of the load towards the top. So the actual external load is greater at the bottom IN ADDITION TO the moment arm being greater at the bottom.
@maths_505
@maths_505 Ай бұрын
Tried these last week. Absolutely brutal with that sweet sweet (i.e. TERRIBLE) stretch on the quads.
@kapoioBCS
@kapoioBCS Ай бұрын
Hey ! I follow you channel for years :)
@lt3880
@lt3880 19 күн бұрын
I needed an exercise to progress after maxing out pistol squats at over 30 reps for 3 sets, I couldnt even do 1 of these at max depth lmao. slowly progressing this at the moment by holding onto a band and lowering my head into a chair.
@CD-kl1dn
@CD-kl1dn Ай бұрын
Just tried it, and what the hell the stretch is insane, quads on fire right from the get go, can't do more than 5 reps though 😄
@user-io6dq6bg4m
@user-io6dq6bg4m Ай бұрын
How about doing this exercise with the ankle in dorsiflexion?
@Aleksandr_TRI
@Aleksandr_TRI Ай бұрын
i kinda like it but it feels awkward and painful for knees, leg extension feels more stable
@DragonballG.
@DragonballG. 6 күн бұрын
Question. Given squats won’t do the rectus femoris, or hamstrings, and given weighted glute bridges do your glutes as much as squats (Contreras, Henselmans study) if I wanted purely to optimise glute and quad growth, could I eliminate all squatting and leg press movements and replace them with the reverse nordic? Would I be missing out on anything?
@ozzy6162
@ozzy6162 Ай бұрын
I'll inform the local A&E department before giving these a try. I think holding a secured band/rope will help while learning the form.
@andyh3065
@andyh3065 Ай бұрын
Given these give a good stretch to all 4 quad muscles, including rec fem, would they be suitable for someone with mild patella alta? Be keen to hear any thoughts, or suggestions on other suitable exercises.
@bellabiagio1223
@bellabiagio1223 Ай бұрын
Nothing to do with your information. Which is amazing and I appreciate it!!!! I would like to suggest NOT doing the side angle shot of you speaking. It really takes away from your words. Besides you're great at looking right into the camera and giving us your brilliance. I could go on but I won't. Carry on with your work! You are helping so many of us that need it broken down as you do! Thank you!
@BenG-rd5wg
@BenG-rd5wg Ай бұрын
Truly awesome exercise! Is it okay to only extend my spine to a roughly neutral position? This way, I can do around 12 reps with 14 kg extra. My quads are still relatively small, though (I've only been training legs for 6-7 months). 😅
@brandonhallfit
@brandonhallfit 15 күн бұрын
Hey @WolfCoaching I've found that holding dumbbells (like light 10 lbs one) on my lower quads while performing these help to keep my knees from coming up and giving me more stretch and full ROM. Is there any possible negatives to this?
@mrAngusGus
@mrAngusGus Ай бұрын
Many bros and bro scientists on YT have been wicked triggered by your attempts to popularize this exercise. Idk what they are so afraid of
@hayesdelezene4590
@hayesdelezene4590 Ай бұрын
The haters are just a bunch of weak kneed pencil necks
@TheGreektrojan
@TheGreektrojan Ай бұрын
Its the opposite of an ego lift and leans into the loaded stretch (aka nerds 'overthinking' things) angle. A double whammy.
@mikesalvato
@mikesalvato Ай бұрын
Like who
@creekchub4200
@creekchub4200 Ай бұрын
@@mikesalvato TNF
@mrAngusGus
@mrAngusGus Ай бұрын
@@mikesalvato I was recommended by the KZfaq algorithm a video by "Shethar training" and the thumbnail of recent video by Shethar was making fun of reverse nordics. There was another video I was watching, can't recall it now, that was talking negatively about reverse nordics.
@Ebhin09
@Ebhin09 6 күн бұрын
Where can I get a board like that on the top rigth corner?
@Suptski
@Suptski Ай бұрын
I really like these. Sissy squats and or reverse nordics after a pistol squat or some kind of split squat is all I do for my quads. I prefer sissy squats if I had to pick one but that's just personal preference. Maybe doing both is redundant but I don't mind.
@claudiamarianidamato9499
@claudiamarianidamato9499 Ай бұрын
Here’s your solution, do both. Leg ext and reverse Nordic . One focuses on the contraction and the other on the stretch.. This thing about “which ones better” is not necessary. They are both useful in their own ways period !!
@pranavarvind4281
@pranavarvind4281 7 күн бұрын
My issue with chest-supported rows over cable rows is that they're really uncomfortable. I don't know if it's an adaptation issue or a strength issue or what, but it always makes me feel like im being crushed
@Bodeification
@Bodeification Ай бұрын
I found this interesting and it is something I will implement, since I am missing a quad exercise in my routine. Just one question: how do you know you are progressing? This exercise seems really difficult to know you are doing each rep the same/correctly
@kwerby3285
@kwerby3285 Ай бұрын
Depends on your range of felxibility. If you cant do 1 rep all the way up and down, maybe use bands to support your torso, or maybe use a cable machine to assist.
@MajklKral
@MajklKral Ай бұрын
What if they cause knee pain?
@malik_alharb
@malik_alharb Ай бұрын
I shattered my ankle a few years ago, dont have he ankle flexibility for this exercise
@LeanAndMean44
@LeanAndMean44 Ай бұрын
Put your legs on elevated ground so the feet can hang off
@1TieDye1
@1TieDye1 Ай бұрын
You can do it on your toes also
@scottiegeek4364
@scottiegeek4364 Ай бұрын
Started trying these a few months ago. Wish this video was out then, it took me four weeks to think of putting a rolled up mat under my feet which is what really made it click for me. 😂
@xpedrixfuryan
@xpedrixfuryan Ай бұрын
Quads day today! 🔥
@vegardbell
@vegardbell Ай бұрын
Any thoughts on the "normal" nordic curl (where you train the hamstrings)?
@ThePhysicalReaction
@ThePhysicalReaction Ай бұрын
I like to do this one while holding a 10 pound cable in each hand so I not only get muscle confusion, but entire gym confusion.
@shiva102fps
@shiva102fps Ай бұрын
What do you think are some good approaches for dealing with inflexible feet for leaning back in the reverse nordic
@CH1C4N0444
@CH1C4N0444 Ай бұрын
Friend of mine would hold a DB infront of him when he did these The Reverse Nordic is my ABSOLUTE favorite exercise for my quads at the moment
@chenzarella
@chenzarella Ай бұрын
Feels So weird with the back over extended . Is it still effective keeping it the glutes contracted the feet lifted helps heaps bit def hands in front for extra stability. Not what u said but lol
@davidbright8978
@davidbright8978 Ай бұрын
What the best way for folks to due this that may not have the strength lilenusing cords or such
@deanradley65
@deanradley65 Ай бұрын
I do my leg extensions using monkey feet lying on a bench, butt right at the edge and my knee point at about 45 degrees. I get stretch on the quads in bottom position and the hip flexor are stretched. Think I’m going to add reverse nordics to my other leg day.
@douglasauruss
@douglasauruss Ай бұрын
What would make reverse Nordic curls perfect for me would be doing it on a pad so my feet don't have to be pointed, and then so that I don't fall backwards from not having my feet for the needed leverage, have my legs strapped to the floor. I am gonna build something for this!
@Yajoy-kh3kc
@Yajoy-kh3kc Ай бұрын
Have you tried keeping the shoes on? Extended feet cause me intense pain in this position barefoot, but not with shoes on.
@douglasauruss
@douglasauruss Ай бұрын
@@Yajoy-kh3kc seems like the heel support would dig into my foot
@Yajoy-kh3kc
@Yajoy-kh3kc Ай бұрын
@@douglasauruss I don't get that
@douglasauruss
@douglasauruss Ай бұрын
@@Yajoy-kh3kc So your foot is fully extended and you are using your foot for support and the back of your shoe is not pressing into your achilles tendon?
@Yajoy-kh3kc
@Yajoy-kh3kc Ай бұрын
@@douglasauruss I use low-top lifting shoes and don't have that issue, yes. But I'm also not particularly mobile, so maybe my plantar flexion covers less range of motion than yours.
@paulc5389
@paulc5389 Ай бұрын
If you need to load would facing away from a pulley using a rope work or is it too cumbersome? As in kneel facing away holding the rope as if you're going to do a tricep overhead extension. Or would you need to raise yourself off the ground a bit to keep tension on the pulley?
@PowerMaze
@PowerMaze Ай бұрын
I'll try this out with a cable to assist!
@user-he4ef9br7z
@user-he4ef9br7z Ай бұрын
My hamstrings jam against my calves way before full quad extension. Seen the same on other trainees too. This doesn't work for my flexibility. Sissy squats.
@pedrojorge2741
@pedrojorge2741 Ай бұрын
Is using a band for assistance a good way to regress the exercise, or does the fact it helps the most at the stretch position defeat the main benefit of the exercise, making it better to just stick to a shorter ROM with no band assistance?
@dcuccia
@dcuccia Ай бұрын
Dr. Milo says "Is composed" not "Is comprised" in his promo, so he will get my money.
@douglasauruss
@douglasauruss Ай бұрын
Does it matter that I'm so weak in that stretched position that I have to do them with a cable assist? So much more tension possible in a leg extension machine.
@LeanAndMean44
@LeanAndMean44 Ай бұрын
Yeah but this gives way better stretch and more growth. They’re basically a lengthened partial for the quads. You have to decide based on whether you prioritize strength and not looking like a yoga fool or quad size
@christiancalkins9372
@christiancalkins9372 Ай бұрын
I wish I could do this exercise, but every single time I do it, my foot cramps up. 😭
@mattcarlson1052
@mattcarlson1052 Ай бұрын
Same! I get nasty cramps in my feet and hamstrings when I do this. Not always on the first rep, but pretty quickly. Anyone have ideas on overcoming this issue?
@thomasowens4844
@thomasowens4844 Ай бұрын
Stretch the top of your foot and strengthen the bottom of your foot and back of your calf
@sergiotorrijos3108
@sergiotorrijos3108 Ай бұрын
I make it using a deadlift drop pad, with my toes outside the pad.
@1TieDye1
@1TieDye1 Ай бұрын
You can do it up on your toes, instead of lying your feet down and plantar flexing your ankle. It stretches your toes and foot, so it might prevent cramping
@sergejstojanovic2518
@sergejstojanovic2518 Ай бұрын
why don't you react to some video of House of hypertrophy?
@mrAngusGus
@mrAngusGus Ай бұрын
Forearm video that came out today is pretty good
@ozzy6162
@ozzy6162 Ай бұрын
I get your argument Milo but is it not possible that being able to increase the load substantially for leg extensions and being able to change to a flexed hip position will make up for the issues you identify with leg extensions in terms of hypertrophy? We need research comparing Reverse Nordics with hip flexed leg extensions.
@alias5281
@alias5281 Ай бұрын
Does this stress the knees? My patellar tendon is a bit finnicky and I wonder if I can do this.
@Bigcheese6875
@Bigcheese6875 Ай бұрын
Been trying these. Feel pretty good but kinda hurt top of feel and can really only do 4-6 deep stretched reps. Hopefully gonna add some weight if I can get to around 12 in the future
@jeffbunnell9961
@jeffbunnell9961 Ай бұрын
Can these be superset with RDLs? I do that currently with leg extensions and would be swapping them
@karlmatillano8705
@karlmatillano8705 Ай бұрын
I rate this exercise A tier at best
@Biolo-G_KJ
@Biolo-G_KJ Ай бұрын
Why don't you go all the way down on the reverse nordics?? If you place your feet a bit wider you can touch the ground with your glutes and head and than go up from there. Way larger range of motion and more stretch.
@LeanAndMean44
@LeanAndMean44 Ай бұрын
He’s probably not strong enough?
@Biolo-G_KJ
@Biolo-G_KJ Ай бұрын
@@LeanAndMean44 maybe but I doubt it.
@LePrimo420
@LePrimo420 Ай бұрын
Everytime I get to the end rom my fucking foot cramps up so hard.
@CetherDesipio
@CetherDesipio Ай бұрын
can i help myself with a TRX while performing the Reverse Nordic Squat?
@mateusdovale5863
@mateusdovale5863 Ай бұрын
Yes, but don’t rely too much on
@ew-zd1th
@ew-zd1th Ай бұрын
Would you say you can grow the vmo better with short rom partials?
@EvanZamir
@EvanZamir Ай бұрын
It seems like this is mostly for advanced lifters, because if you're a beginner and can't even do one rep (which is essentially your body weight) then it's hard to imagine how this exercise is better than doing leg extensions with a lighter load even if it's not in the optimal length range.
@LeanAndMean44
@LeanAndMean44 Ай бұрын
No use the the weighted cables so you can do it
@EvanZamir
@EvanZamir Ай бұрын
@@LeanAndMean44 Ah, I see. Thanks.
@1TieDye1
@1TieDye1 Ай бұрын
Bands work well too
@trym54
@trym54 Ай бұрын
Are you from Norway??
@kapoioBCS
@kapoioBCS Ай бұрын
I don’t know.. no joke but i find them to easy with BW or some extra low weight, and when I try to take a 25kg plate to be in the 6-12 rep range it just becomes a flexibility and abs exercise for me.. With just a 20kg plate or less i can do so many reps that it just becomes painful in the joints of the foot (especially in the point where we shoot balls on football)
@LeanAndMean44
@LeanAndMean44 Ай бұрын
lol you’re quadzilla But I guess this is an ab exercise anyway? And it’s okay training your abs isometrically if that’s necessary for training your quads with lengthened eccentrics
@We_Run_Up_Hills
@We_Run_Up_Hills Ай бұрын
It probably feels like an ab exercize because thats the weak point!
@kapoioBCS
@kapoioBCS Ай бұрын
@@LeanAndMean44not really that big tbh, but I really like to train leg especially for strength
@fullmetalathlete
@fullmetalathlete 5 күн бұрын
Ok i have the weirdest issue with these, but every time i lean back my feet cramp so hard i have to stop... like the way I'm squeezing or straining with my feet against the ground makes thr arch of my foot cramp into a ball and i cant seem to work out anyway to make it stop while attempting these 😢
@jaymills1720
@jaymills1720 Ай бұрын
Without external load, how effective could it be good for size growth?
@joojotin
@joojotin Ай бұрын
Bad
@richardhill4938
@richardhill4938 Ай бұрын
Depends on where you are at in quad development. For novices to low intermediates it will be more than enough. Add in the stabilization need to do them properly and they are a great old school BW exercise. For more advanced a weight vest will take you further.
@xperience-evolution
@xperience-evolution Ай бұрын
The problem with that exercise I fall on my back. My knees come up pretty early in when I lean back. How do you counter that?
@xperience-evolution
@xperience-evolution Ай бұрын
Ok you talked about it. I'll try.
@alaaentabi7879
@alaaentabi7879 Ай бұрын
The movment is gruesome but the issue is i can only do 2 3 reps and am top heavy, any idea how to make the movement lighter ? i train at a gym
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