No Fertilizer, No Herbicide | The Best Food Plot Process, Part 2 (707)

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The second step to growing the best food plots that saves money, protects the soil, conserves moisture, reduces weeds, and provides natural fertilizer and many more benefits! See this vital step to growing killer plots!
This food plot system does a great job of suppressing almost all weeds without the use of herbicide and lets your food plot grow. It's a move to more natural, organic food plot crops for white-tailed deer and other wildlife on your hunting property. Using regenerative agriculture practices is a smart move for anyone interested in wildlife management/conservation and soil or water conservation. This is a more natural process that is better for the environment! Watch this video to learn more.
Crimping over after a food plot is planted is the best way to control weeds and provide natural fertilizer for the next crops.
More food plot videos here, • Food Plots
Are you trying to find out more information on food plots? Check out the answers from Dr. Grant Woods at this website - you'll also find many blog posts on growing food plots and deer hunting, www.growingdeer.tv/ask/?g=1
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@chadroehrick 2 жыл бұрын

I really, REALLY enjoy your videos! I also appreciate you always mentioning God in your videos and encouraging others to seek Him. Be Blessed!

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the blessing Chad!

@gschallert3293 Жыл бұрын

I love Ward Labs and also love what your doing. Great meaningful video and Praise the Lord on High for letting us steward His Land.

@230e4 2 жыл бұрын

Your plots are looking great Grant. The clover in some of our hay fields really got tall this year, I probably should have crimped it right after we drilled in the Timothy in those fields. It is challenging to ted and rake hay without disturbing the mulch layer and end up with it in the bales, definitely easier with row crops and food plots. We baled our first hay of this year today, it was a nice stand of orchard grass that we overseeded with Timothy a couple weeks ago. Looking to harvest the timothy with the second cutting the first part of july. Keeping the ground covered at all times makes a big difference with weed suppression. Looking forward to seeing your plots grow with the new crop.

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the nice crop of hay. Making hay is much different than the Release Process. Making hay means removing most of the growth and nutrients from a site.

@Giroux68 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@stormyacrefarms6816 2 жыл бұрын

Great video

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@timmebruer5205 Жыл бұрын

I love the taste of roundup in the morning

@GrowingDeerTV Жыл бұрын

Tim - I don't think anyone like to use herbicide - similar to a root canal. However, sometimes they are necessary.

@josephstephens3852 2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Woods, if I don't have a no till drill can I broadcast the blend of seeds before crimping and achieve the same results?

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Joseph - Seeds need to make good contact with the soil for the seedlings to survive. If the vegetation is thick enough that crimping works well, many of the seeds likely won't reach the soil when broadcast. Broadcasting into a mature crop works best when at least twice as much seed is spread as would be used if drilling and the seed is spread just before a good rain - 1/2" or more.

@calebdennis4167 2 жыл бұрын

For those of us starting our journey, is there a specific order in which tractor implements you would start with? For instance is a roller more beneficial than a no till? Don't quite have the funds to start off with everything all at once, so any help from your experience would be appreciated. Love the videos thank you for helping us improve our lands

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Caleb - Great question! Without a drill, and avoiding tillage, requires broadcasting seed. This can work and works best if the seed is broadcast at a very heavy rate and just before at least 1/2" of rain. Crops planted with a no-till drill almost always develop better than those that were seeded by broadcasting. Crimpers are important because they not only terminate crops and create the very important mulch layer that suppresses weeds. If I had to choose for a time, I'll probably start with a no-till drill.

@williamteunissen4774 2 жыл бұрын

Mr. Grant Woods I am located in Michigan and watch you regularlydue to my love for whitetails. With that being said, I have a question unrelated to whitetail. My question for you ""Do you think your system or the "Buffalo" system could help the west and they're ever worsening drought?"" I am worried if we can't fix the drought problem in the west all of us will pay the price, particularly my kids. Thank you for you thoughts.

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

William - I do! There are many great farmers in the westerns states were drought is a frequent issue that are very successful using such techniques. They are usually more profitable also due to greatly reduced inputs. What's odd is neighboring farms see the results and refuse to change. The GOV provides crop insurance and some of the stipulations to get the GOV funding prohibits adopting good soil health improvement techniques. I find this extremely sad, wasteful, and negligent.

@charlesrhea6810 2 жыл бұрын

Is there an optimal size/width of a crimper to use. I have 45hp and 80 hp tractors, but the 10 foot crimper is pretty heavy and somewhat wide for our wetter/ narrow roads to some of food plots. Average is about 3-5 acres. Thank you for your great work helping the sportsman who are not farmers! God bless and stay healthy to you and your family and team!😎🇺🇸👍

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Charles - You are wise to consider the lift capacity of your tractors. Crimpers weigh less than drills - way less - and therefore a crimper can usually be wider than the drill being used. I use an 8' crimper and have an 8' drill.

@charlesrhea6810 2 жыл бұрын

@@GrowingDeerTV Thank you, the concepts you describe with your Buffalo System makes a lot of sense, particularly with consideration of increasing cost of fuel ,fertilizer, and the ultimate scarce commodity “ time”. This is all new to us , but my son and I are “all in”. There is a lot we don’t know, and we appreciate the help and the benefit of your experience. Many of our plots have clovers in them, which the sun really works on. Do you recommend mowing the weeds and grasses or letting these grow providing shade. The clover seems to do a lot better in the fields with afternoon shade. Thanks C Rhea MD.

@jacksonbaisbais8663 2 жыл бұрын

Do you recommend using the crimping processes with a field full of weeds??? Currently have a plot with some clover and weeds. I wanna broadcast the summer blend and then crimp the weeds. But would you recommend spraying the weeds first, then broadcast a week later and then crimp?

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Jackson - Crimping works when the majority of plants to be terminated are producing seeds that are in the dough stage. Just like driving across a yard, crimping isn't effective at terminating plants before they are producing seed.

@salt-team-six5883 2 жыл бұрын

do you take any off your planter to be able to plant through standing crops

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Actually you may need more weight for the coulters to cut through the standing crop and roots!

@phillipjames9003 Жыл бұрын

I would like a rotation that benefits both deer and pheasants. I could drill sorghum into winter rye, crimp it, and I think that would work well but what about the next year? Seems I’d have to work the ground to plant rye again.

@GrowingDeerTV Жыл бұрын

Phillip - Pheasants need some open space to move due to their short legs. Open space allows weeds to grow. You might be better to plant some areas for pheasants and some for deer. Milo is a good grain for deer and pheasants, but without some forage species growing with the milo, there will be no food for deer during the growing season as they don't comsume milo forage.

@michaelwilhelm562 2 жыл бұрын

Who makes a good crimper that you can pull behind a side by side. Really enjoy your videos on planting

@VentureNorthEast 2 жыл бұрын

RTP outdoors makes a decent one priced between $4K-$6K

@bucksniper65 2 жыл бұрын

Packer Maxx makes a small cultipacker with a crimper attachment that looks like it works well. It is a lot more affordable than even a small dedicated crimper.

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

RTPOutdoors.com

@lukedog7028 2 жыл бұрын

The thing most folks are not going to like is the cost of a pretty big tractor, crimper, no till drill and a barn to store it in when not in use. Fertilizer isn’t cheap but equipment is high as a giraffe’s ass. If you are only dedicating 3-5% of your farm to food plots seems like burning and improving your timber stands for wildlife would be the place to concentrate the efforts.

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Luke - managing native vegetation can be a great tool. Pairing that with quality plots makes the herd and hunting quality better!

@tinfoiltim7593 2 жыл бұрын

Grant do you have a video that shows start to finish how to do this in my cow pasture. Its just natural grasses and we do have it bailed and sell so it must be good enough to sell as hay or whatever you wanna call it. Getting ready to retire to Oklahoma on our property in several years and cant wait to transform some of the pasture to good deer food plots. I have approx 60 acres of just pasture and nice grass in it. Do you spray for weeds first and then no drill till and then crimp or can I just crimp whats there and then no drill till over with the seeds I want to plant? I know probably dumb questions but I'm just learning. I will look at some more of your videos. Thanks

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on owning what sounds like neat land! Usually, pastures need to be treated with a herbicide at least once to eliminate cool season grasses such as fescue, etc. Prescribed fire and herbicide is a great treatment for converting pastures to wildlife habitat. This of course depends on the current species growing in the pastures. Removing hay year after year depletes the soil's nutrients so be sure and do a soil test

@tinfoiltim7593 2 жыл бұрын

@@GrowingDeerTV Thank you so much for replying to me. I definitely will do that!

@ryany4326 Жыл бұрын

Good news for people getting into food plots! You only need about $150,000 dollars to buy equipment to do this! I’m glad this works in some areas but all these no till guys fail to mention that this process dosent work in all soils. Try this down south in red clay. It dosent work on my souls which is heavy heavy loam with high clay content. And the soil here is healthy and yields well

@GrowingDeerTV Жыл бұрын

Ryan - This process works great in red clay soils. We just filmed a guy that's having great success with this process in South Carolina. To watch, checkout:kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j62AqMl2uqyqZ2g.html There are also several videos here about using hand tools with this process.

@coltondrake8563 Жыл бұрын

Could you crimp hayfields at the end of the year when winter hits or before winter hits to achieve creating the same natural mulch?

@GrowingDeerTV Жыл бұрын

Colton - Crimping terminates annual plants that are making seed heads or flowers. Crimping likely won't work well with perennial species of hay.

@johndeere7036 2 жыл бұрын

How long after you notill your Summer Blend cover do you come back and crimp. I am in Georgia.

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

John - there's a lot of flexibility in the Release Process. The seeds can be drilled when the conditions are good then crimp instantly or if necessary wait for the fall planted crop to mature to the dough stage. Crimping before the standing crop is in the dough stage rarely terminates it.

@thefall3551 Жыл бұрын

One thing Mr. Woods you are forgetting to mention is that the drill you are using cost around $20,000. My $800 set of discs and drag still will do the job and produce results.

@GrowingDeerTV Жыл бұрын

Disking works fine but many of us wish to improve the soil, eliminate erosion, and make fewer passes - less time and synthetic inputs. To each their own!

@nolans8708 2 жыл бұрын

Dr. woods, do you add any water to the Goliath when you crimp?

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Nolan - if I wait until the crop is in the later portion of the dough stage I don't - no water was added this year!

@nateaustin-st1nt 7 ай бұрын

How do u contact to learn more

@alanwhite4839 Жыл бұрын

In the Alabama area, who sells these roller/crimpers?

@GrowingDeerTV Жыл бұрын

Alan - Call RTP and ask where their closest dealer to you is located -(636) 825-8300.

@Brandon-uo1rv 2 жыл бұрын

Excited about roller crimping this year. Had a fantastic stand of rye that was broadcasted into fall plots. Planted summer release into the rye then crimped. Turned out terrible as the mares tail was everywhere within my plot and while the milo was coming up good the other species were struggling. Green Cover was no help with advice....so I'm back to spraying and drilling. Great idea in concept but almost impossible for the average hunter/land manager.

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Brandon - There must have been marestail in the plot before you started the Release Process? I'll be happy to assist you. Do you have images of the cereal rye stand before it was crimped? What planting rate of the Summer Release blend did you use?

@Brandon-uo1rv 2 жыл бұрын

@@GrowingDeerTV There is no telling what was in the seed bank before the rye was crimped. But that is going to always be the case I assume. It was 45lb/acre with the genesis drill. I've got a video clip of me crimping the rye too--too large to send it seems through social media. Went back just yesterday and the mares tail and other weeds were worse than I suspected. The release blend plants did seem to be coming up, the milo probably growing the fastest but everything was getting greatly out competed by the mares tail. Last falls food plot was a nice stand of brassicas on 1/2 and the other was peas, beans and oats with little to no weeds. I really thought this year roller crimp would be a no brainer.

@fergystuff Жыл бұрын

@Brandon-uo1rv setup your own KZfaq channe (its free)l, upload your big video and then share the URL to Grant

@andyparstino7280 2 жыл бұрын

I made a foot crimper like you have but still disc the big plot too much to walk and crimp

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Andy - Crimping by foot is a workout!

@willieclark2256 2 жыл бұрын

I just crimped my 2 ac food plot by having my neighbor turn in his cattle and sheep at just the right time for two days of grazing and then back off. Not only could they not have crimped it any better, but they fertilized as well!

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Willie - where you have fences this is an excellent plan! This is best if the seeds for the next crop have already been broadcast!

@willieclark2256 2 жыл бұрын

@@GrowingDeerTV 100% we're looking at a drought year I think so I adjusted my blend to milo, cowpea, sunflower, and mustard to thrive in low moisture, and broadcast the day before we turned the stock in.

@JustinC114 9 ай бұрын

When doing this method, do you still have to put lime down to change pH?

@GrowingDeerTV 9 ай бұрын

Justin - decaying plant material is basic - and often has a pH of 7.4. I haven't used lime in many, many years.

@JustinC114 9 ай бұрын

@@GrowingDeerTV okay, that makes sense. I've watched numerous videos of yours and have heard mention about no fertilizer/herbicide but hadn't picked up on the pH having to be adjusted or not. Thank you for clarifying. I plan to acquire a crimper for a four wheeler this winter and start learning to use this method myself starting in spring.

@kurtcaramanidis5705 2 жыл бұрын

Most will have to broadcast before crimping. Will that work as well?

@FuselierFarms 2 жыл бұрын

If you are broadcasting youll need to double the seeding rate per acre, so if youre planting cowpeas at 50lb/acre with a dtill 100lb/acre broadcast.

@kurtcaramanidis5705 2 жыл бұрын

@@FuselierFarms Yes, I am aware. Thank you. Most don't have a no til drill and will have to broadcast. Most don't have a crimper either but I love the approach.

@FuselierFarms 2 жыл бұрын

@@kurtcaramanidis5705 so truely a crimper can be anything that will exert enough force to break the stem. A light tractor, 4 wheeler, whatever you can come up with. Heck last year i used my 7ft bushhog to crimp my cover crop, and had a beautiful crop of cowpeas come up through the 8way mix. Use your imagination

@kurtcaramanidis5705 2 жыл бұрын

@@FuselierFarms Totally agree. We dragged pallets on our buckwheat last year and broadcasted before dragging and it turned out great.

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Kurt - Broadcasting can work! For the seedlings to survive their roots must be in the soil which means the seeds has to reach the soil. Hence, it's best to use at least twice as much seed as would be used if drilling and the seed is spread just before at least 1/2" of rain as rain helps the seed reach the soils through thick vegetation.

@chrisw1073 2 жыл бұрын

You never covered why the flat roller would not work in the place of a crimper. I understand it would not break the stem in multiple places, but it will break the stem at the base which should kill it.

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Chris - Breaking a stem at one place is like cutting it and mowing a yard doesn't terminate grass or weeds. Crimping when the plant is producing seed in the dough stage works well and is the technique used by regenerative ag farmers.

@dwbowhunterable 2 жыл бұрын

Need a good crimper for an ATV/UTV. Packermaxx is great packer, but I am not so sure on the crimper. Thoughts?

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know what a Packermaxx is but it sounds like a cultipacker which is designed to firm bare ground - not crush the stems of plants every fews inches.

@patricks7622 2 жыл бұрын

So I wonder, if I have a crimper can I simply sow the seeds of a food plot blend in the tall grass then crimp and hope for good results? Anyone? 🙂

@brianboyett6250 2 жыл бұрын

That's what we tried this year. Results are still tbd

@patricks7622 2 жыл бұрын

@@brianboyett6250 thanks very much for that. At the rate I'm going this year any results here will be "in the fall or not at all 👍🙂

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Patrick - seeds need to make great contact with the soil. If there's enough vegetation to crimp, it's doubtful most of the seeds will make great contact with the soil by simply broadcasting them. This technique does work if about twice as much seed is used as would be needed if drilled and the seed is broadcast just before a heavy rain. Rain helps the seed reach the soil.

@patricks7622 2 жыл бұрын

@@GrowingDeerTV thanks very much. This confirmed my speculation after giving it some thought. Thanks again 👍

@timmebruer5205 Жыл бұрын

Crimping works well with certain soil types and seeds but it's not the best for everything.

@GrowingDeerTV Жыл бұрын

Tim - Farmers with sandy and heavy clays use crimping - it works great an annual plants that are in the dough stage. It won't work on perennials or plants not in the dough stage. It's new to food plotters but has been used by production farmers for decades.

@dougkraemer8327 2 жыл бұрын

I love the concept. But the issue I have is being an average guy I don't have a big tractor, drill and crimper. So I think the plan is out of my league.

@bucksniper65 2 жыл бұрын

You can still do this process without the big equipment. If you have a 4wheeler or side by side there is a product from packer maxx. It is a small cultipacker that you can get a crimping attachment with. This will pretty much do the same thing without the cost.

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

Doug - we have several episodes about the Release Process using hand tools. Check them out!

@williamc.fetterjr9036 2 жыл бұрын

I dont have a crimper, and can't justify buying one. But I do have a cultipacker. It seems to me like it would do the same thing do you agree

@GrowingDeerTV 2 жыл бұрын

William - Cultipackers are designed to create a firm seedbed and press seed to make contact with the soil. Crimpers are designed to break a plant's stem in several places. The two implements are designed for totally different missions. If the vegetation to be crimped is almost mature - almost to have hard, viable seed, then it will likely work. However, there's a short window between when the seeds are mature enough to so the plant can be terminated by crimping and so mature the seed is viable and germinates and competes with the new crop.

@JRsVsO 3 ай бұрын

The only issue with your video is that it's like you're trying to sell $50-$60k worth of equipment while also saying how expensive herbicide is. A yard roller filled with 400lbs of water can do almost the same thing as a $4k crimper you're showing on the back of that $40k tractor. Your logic is very sound. But there are ways to get the same results with limited equipment. I've used herbicide and a disc hogg for 1st time plots, then used no til the next year, and it's worked great. More than one way to skin a cat, Dr.

@GrowingDeerTV 3 ай бұрын

Rollers are often like tires on a vehicle driving in a yard. It leaves tracks but the grass stands back up. The fins on crimpers crush the plant's circulatory system and often times most rollers simply push vegetation down. Rollers do work at times when the crop to be rolled is very mature. I hope this helps!