Supremely Outmatched | Su-57 Vs F-4E Phantom II | Digital Combat Simulator

Supremely Outmatched | Su-57 Vs F-4E Phantom II | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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@GrowlingSidewinder 26 күн бұрын

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@numberyellow 26 күн бұрын

NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx

@mileswilson1776 26 күн бұрын

could you do a video flying any f35 variant in a potential real world scenario?

@Anarchy_420 26 күн бұрын

Please fly The F-4 VS The A-4 guns only Please fly The Rafale VS The Typhoon guns only Please fly The F-15STOL/MTD VS The SU-30SM guns only

@jasontipton8430 26 күн бұрын

That was so cool merge then lights out

@johnnyd9992 26 күн бұрын

apparently he had 1 left..great use of knowledge of the aircraft..soo close to gettin him..

@shanebarenblatt1925 26 күн бұрын

Yo I think the f-15ex with its powerful radar armed with the aim 174s vs a MiG 31 armed with the r-37ms would be a very interesting fight showcasing both extreme standoff capabilities of the the superpowers

@christopherchartier3017 26 күн бұрын

The aim174b would outrange the R-37M, but the R-37M is a faster missile overall. Would be an interesting dynamic

@paulochs 26 күн бұрын

True!

@paulochs 26 күн бұрын

True! Really.

@dadaddy1677 26 күн бұрын

Would be very cool to see also

@user-2410 26 күн бұрын

What about Kh-172?

@LDSG_A_Team 26 күн бұрын

I can't believe you actually got to the merge 😂

@EvoraGT430 26 күн бұрын

The missile that killed him was most likely too close to arm, honestly.

@dannypattieovercash8327 26 күн бұрын

I can't believe he got a missile off at him!

@cancelanime1507 25 күн бұрын

If GS turned towards him a few seconds earlier that sparrow probably would have tracked

@steves1371 26 күн бұрын

It would be cool to hear from the perspective of your bandit sometimes, to see what they think of your tactics and whatnot

@Ayeshteni 26 күн бұрын

A lot of panicked screaming "WHY IS HE NOT DEAD YET!!!!!" and "AAAAAHHHH HE'S IN THE MERGE WITH ME!""""

@TheUberSchattenjager 26 күн бұрын

Maybe a chat window to see what the bandit is saying while GS narrates per usual

@dvjvbv 26 күн бұрын

Yes. Neither can hear the other during the fight, but insert the opponent's chat or POV at interesting points.

@ShovelMonkey 26 күн бұрын

A Tacview Debrief with both parties giving input.

@skipdippity 25 күн бұрын

Yeah would like to see a video on the felons side..!

@mrvwbug4423 26 күн бұрын

That you got that fight to a merge was amazing. Had he not had a Fox 2 left you might have had him, that was literally a thrust vector victory, he just got the nose around just fast enough to squeeze off a point blank Fox 2.

@Stinger522 26 күн бұрын

It was another R-77M since it came from the ventral bay. Archer missiles are shot from the side bays.

@SAM-jd6pk 26 күн бұрын

Firstly, get some glasses, that was clearly a R-77M, also, GSs Fox 2 would have never turned tight enough to get that shot, also even with only Guns the felon would destroy the F-4

@traviswalker8933 25 күн бұрын

The F-4 is no match for the Su-57.

@Stinger522 25 күн бұрын

@@traviswalker8933 True. But you can't deny Growling's sacrifice was entertaining.

@traviswalker8933 25 күн бұрын

@@Stinger522 he flew the ancient jet well. No denying that.

@DCobra98 26 күн бұрын

The fact that you got an F-4 to the merge with a Felon says it all. Awesome flying!

@michaelsmith1060 26 күн бұрын

A big part of that is that the Russian missiles are bugged in DCS.

@marrty777 26 күн бұрын

@@michaelsmith1060 Russian missiles are interfering with the election as we speak

@nobeltnium 25 күн бұрын

@@michaelsmith1060 It seems like it tracked the F4 pretty good there. Just lead to the ground

@davidmann1871 25 күн бұрын

In a larger scenario, that's definitely a victory for GS. Bought enough time for other assets to engage and wasted a whole sortie for that Felon.

@user-zv4jf8ag8p 25 күн бұрын

@@michaelsmith1060 Agreed, Russian missiles is unrealistically good in DCS.

@Sentinal375 26 күн бұрын

YES IT'S HERE! Next: Spitfire VS. SU-57

@Reaper_03-01 26 күн бұрын

After that it will have to be the Sopwith Camel vs Su-57.

@averagejoe112 26 күн бұрын

Su-57 against the Wright Flyer next!

@BlueDevel 26 күн бұрын

I-16 ?

@timonsolus 26 күн бұрын

@@averagejoe112 : Su-57 against a Native American with a bow and arrows?

@frtik753 26 күн бұрын

Sopwith Camel vs YF23

@DeathPenny 26 күн бұрын

The fact that you forced a Felon to the merge is a miracle in itself, and it had to be pissing him off watching you drive his missiles into the ground lol - ultimately spending more on the missiles fired than the cost of the plane they were trying to kill.

@lexwaldez 23 күн бұрын

I tried to figure out what the total cost of those missile launches might be but couldn't come up with a solid number. Has to be way more than the F-4.

@FireGoliath 26 күн бұрын

Dude you got closer to killing that felon than any airframe that old should have.

@wookie7017 26 күн бұрын

Bring back the tac-view after the fight and talk to the other pilot like you used to do. I’d love to hear how frustrated he was getting watching you drive his missiles into the ground. 😂

@MrWasurfer86 25 күн бұрын

this one wouldve been good

@jjkrayenhagen 24 күн бұрын

I kind of like how he just leaves it in these videos. But I really would like to see a tac view breakdown as well. What about a follow up video doing the tac view breakdowns?

@polarbear2697 26 күн бұрын

All that dodging had me calling you "Mr. Anderson"

@JETZcorp 26 күн бұрын

"He's starting to believe."

@ShovelMonkey 26 күн бұрын

Do you hear that? That is the sound of inevitability, Mr. Andersen.

@YokaiX 20 күн бұрын

Neo

@drumking241 14 күн бұрын

We're gonna need guns, .... lots of guns.

@djgummikuh8895 26 күн бұрын

I wouldn't like to be that Su-57 pilot having to explain to their superiors why they wasted missiles that in sum cost more than your entire F4 lol

@andersjjensen 25 күн бұрын

Don't ask what the target is worth. Ask what's the value of the things the target can destroy if left unchecked.

@AriraleLover 14 күн бұрын

Ракеты су57 не такие дорогие, как тебе может показаться, западные обычно в 2-3 раза дороже, но там и материалы с зарплатами рабочих выше

@theidiotictroublemaker2281 13 күн бұрын

The cost of a phantom is like 22 million usd. The cost of a r77 is 1.09 million usd.

@BooneFinn 26 күн бұрын

In todays episode: "David gets obliterated by Goliath, but not before giving the skychad PTSD" and... "Radar edition Daredevil faces frustrated Kingpin" Featuring: "Can't touch this FOX-3's" "Use the Force Luke" "Put the 'Phantom' to F-4"

@angrydragon4574 26 күн бұрын

Now THAT was creative.

@BooneFinn 25 күн бұрын

@@angrydragon4574 Thank you Sir! 🙏

@andersjjensen 25 күн бұрын

LOL! Have an upvote, Sir!

@chrismiller3835 26 күн бұрын

At least Jester survived to tell the world about your noble sacrifice! :P

@Ayeshteni 26 күн бұрын

I'm considering that a win. Especially of the report that "We manged to destroy millions of dollars of enemy ordnance."

@dansnow7374 26 күн бұрын

The fact you got to the merge in a nearly 65+ year design against a 5th gen is awesome. “Combat tactics Ryan.” Capt. Bart Mancuso, USS Dallas ret.

@Sacto1654 26 күн бұрын

I'm actually amazed you made it that long with an Su 57 with superior almost everything compared to the F-4E.

@brellnob 25 күн бұрын

Almost?

@EDCandLace 25 күн бұрын

Numbers?

@joshfritz5345 17 күн бұрын

The F4 is faster. It's not much of an advantage, but it's something.

@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 26 күн бұрын

On the plus side, the total cost of missiles to the Russian Federation far exceeded the cost of the 60 year old F4, and there are no bragging rights for the Felon pilot. It is like a ranked Olympic boxer going ten rounds with an unranked no-name.

@xX_Gravity_Xx 26 күн бұрын

Guy's not an unranked no-name afterwards though. 🤣

@amunra5330 26 күн бұрын

Jesus you guys take this personal dont you.......Its okay man the US is still number one lol

@benn454 26 күн бұрын

@@amunra5330 Lighten up, Francis. It's all in good fun.

@rocketassistedgoat1079 26 күн бұрын

I'm sure you meant to say; it's like a convicted felon with a bat, beating to death a baby seal.

@ShovelMonkey 26 күн бұрын

@@benn454 Stripes.

@ChadKanotz 21 күн бұрын

F-4 pilot visibility philosophy: See? You don't need to see. You got that...uh...radar thingy.

@cancelanime1507 26 күн бұрын

Man when I heard that sparrow tone I actually thought u were gonna get away with a kill

@aaronbadbear5921 26 күн бұрын

The Phantom is my favorite fighter jet. Loved this video. The inverted nose dive you used to defeat one of the missiles, using the weight and the power of the jet was what the pilots ended up doing to hang with smaller aircrafts. I watched a video on how pilots would use the same inverted dive to to turn harder with smaller jets that had better maneuverability and tighter turns. Would definately watch a round 2 to this matchup. Keep up the great work, love the videos!

@petercj550 25 күн бұрын

I miss the post flight analysis ,like you had a long time ago. It was just as entertaining if not more entertaining than the actual fight. I learned a lot from it. I wish you'd bring it back.

@blackbuttecruizr 26 күн бұрын

Can't wait to see the shenanigans! You definitely survived an unbelievably long time!

@esbuenodun 26 күн бұрын

In the faaaaace!! 😂😂😂 nice work. That was way closer than I thought it was going to be. 👍🏾👏🏾💪🏾🙌🏾

@cszabo8899 26 күн бұрын

One of your absolute best videos! Superb suspense, had me on the edge of my seat the entire time. A combination of your heightened anxiety, the suspense of a Phantom vs a Felon, and your expert search for the best possible forms and routes of evasion, really put us in the seat right there with you. I could have watched you evade him for hours.

@mrgoober6320 26 күн бұрын

For people who are curious about the numbers: at 20,000 ft, air density is about half what it is at sea level. At 40,000 ft, it's about a quarter.

@tigerpjm 25 күн бұрын

Thank you! I've spent a long time wondering how you figure out what the MAR is. Now I still don't know for sure! (I guess you halve the theoretical max range of the missile at 20,000, quarter it at low altitude?)

@Joey-tc2uo 26 күн бұрын

video idea for you would be to strap the aim 174 to a tomcat and see how reliant it would be against modern Russian and Chinese fighters. also great video gs

@KillerKev1961 26 күн бұрын

I thought you had it! The trees were your friend!

@gabrielm.6987 26 күн бұрын

Definitely try this again

@adamplatt5266 26 күн бұрын

The 57 is basically a dump truck of a stealth fighter

@andersjjensen 25 күн бұрын

Noooo! It's glorious superior Russian technology. The West has no analogy! :P

@rmjstrikecat 21 күн бұрын

@@andersjjensen*incoming call from The Kid*

@TheArcticFoxxo 3 күн бұрын

The heaviest of them all, and surprisingly taut as the most maneuverable at the same time.

@GH-yp8ri Күн бұрын

Just the fact that you managed to get sidewinders off at him in the merge is extraordinary. True testament to your skill as a pilot and the sheer speed brick that is the F4. That fight should not have been as close as it was. Fantastic performance from the old guard and her driver.

@icin4d 26 күн бұрын

Speechless as to your situational and tactical awareness here. Quite the nail-biter.

@FireGoliath 26 күн бұрын

How dangerous could a 21st century F-4 Phatom be? F-35 RADAR, AMRAAM's, ETC

@derekfaldik8041 25 күн бұрын

We are entering the age of avionics dominance. Anything that can haul ordinance is can be a missile truck then sensor-fused with F-35's and UCAV's of the future and be very dangerous.

@radical137 25 күн бұрын

There are F-4EJ's being retired now in Japan, you know those probably have some nice upgrades.

@andersjjensen 25 күн бұрын

It would be dangerous in a standoff fight, which is what everyone expects to be the absolute majority of engagements. But really, it's not the individual plane, but the entire kill-chain. Your hypothetical F-4 in packs of 4-5 with state of the art AWACS, mountain-top large aperture radars, layered GBAD and top professional crews on all of them would be practically impossible to penetrate. But it would royally suck if you wanted to go on the offensive.

@ioannismik 18 күн бұрын

HAF F-4E AUP with AIM-120B and radar data from Erieye would be a very different scenario.

@TheArcticFoxxo 3 күн бұрын

That's just an F-16 Block 60 at that point

@jameskester7745 26 күн бұрын

Man, that was a great fight. You made it closer then I imagined you would, great job!

@ColeDedhand 26 күн бұрын

Thank God Jester got out. He's got a virtual family.

@user-qy2vv2go2c 12 күн бұрын

He definitely did a top gun: maverick on you. Avenging a fellow Felon who died the moment he fired a missile.

@DarkOperationman 26 күн бұрын

You made it in to the merge! That's basically pretty much win already for me.

@user-zu7fr8qm8r 25 күн бұрын

That is so close. As in almost beating the Elden Ring Boss and dying with only 3 HP left on the boss health bar close. A good show indeed.

@PhilTParker 24 күн бұрын

For GS to actually get into the merge with that Felon in his A4 is a testament to smart flying combined with solid strategy and tactics, all used together. It’s amazing. And like it was said in Top Gun more than once, “It’s about the pilot. Not the plane.”

@Usurphlhen 26 күн бұрын

If you want to make this "fair" would you could use the F-4F ICE with an f-18 radar and amraams or the F-4E 2020 Terminator

@arrow0872 26 күн бұрын

The Terminator upgrade is A2G and lacks BVR capabilities as far as I know. The German and Greek ICE upgrades are A2A capable and would be more suitable…

@XTXImperator 26 күн бұрын

Bravo GS, you did very, VERY well here. You forced a Felon to merge with you and that is an outstanding achievement! Alas, in the end, the gap in technology proved to be too great in the end.

@jonathanbarrell82 25 күн бұрын

I cannot believe you made it to the merge with a Felon. Thats amazing flying.

@ZachAttack2U 26 күн бұрын

Excellent Effort GS, thanks for the great content! 🔥

@craig_sez8534 26 күн бұрын

I actually thought "Holy shit he might pull it off" then the explosion and it was gone..

@FlyboyKC64154 26 күн бұрын

He shot a bunch of missiles at you before taking you out at the merge. I would say you had better odds than you thought.

@iamn8746 26 күн бұрын

That shot of you leading the missle into the ground and riding low in the distance though ❤

@timandshannon03 25 күн бұрын

That lasted a lot longer than I expected. With the video length, I was honestly expected 2-3 rounds. Well done GS!!!!

@yourfavoritetoy 26 күн бұрын

i knew you were going to die, but getting even a shot off was super impressive

@glennhelka8045 26 күн бұрын

That was an awesome flying job Side, you did great.

@MulderJosh 25 күн бұрын

Quite the cinematography for the ending, great directing!

@208SledHead 25 күн бұрын

Absolutely brilliant flying. You had that Felon sweatin!!

@tombaldwin328 25 күн бұрын

Well fought battle. I didn't expect you to last that long either...😊

@muthaz1952 26 күн бұрын

This was a really great video. One of my favorite planes as well. Thank you.

@codychild2665 26 күн бұрын

Damn, GS! That was close! Thought you had him and very nearly did!👏👏👏🤯

@PrimarchX 26 күн бұрын

That was a super Fox-2 there at the end. Talk about a clutch shot. But you fought the good fight, making him put 3x the cost of your Phantom in missiles into the ground!

@SupaHogg 25 күн бұрын

One word: spectacular Both in the way you survived for so long and in the way you disintegrated.

@SirLionofBiff 26 күн бұрын

That was way the heck closer than it ever should have been.

@thrillzgaming8599 26 күн бұрын

Even making it to the merge was a huge win!

@a24396 26 күн бұрын

How do you win? You fly to not lose and force him to miss until he's out of BVR missiles. Then, if you can find him, you've got a chance...

@oddy1637 26 күн бұрын

Gun exists.. IR missiles exist...

@Nicolas-zw5ex 26 күн бұрын

Same with any other stealth plane

@jaejampro1 26 күн бұрын

Though you're dead that was excellent airmanship...

@Mariner311 26 күн бұрын

Curious if the Felon driver got some sphincter clench THAT close - you should have gone GUNS.

@Plymouth-Interlocking 26 күн бұрын

I laughed out loud when that went to the merge! That was awesome. If only you could have snuck in that fox 2!

@ohalrighthen4301 25 күн бұрын

Posthumous Distinguished Flying Cross for that effort.

@antonioconte49 12 күн бұрын

Another killer video! Thank you!

@rtpfixit 26 күн бұрын

Dude, what a wild choice of opponents. Game on!

@tristandaries1129 26 күн бұрын

I know going into the merge is an unnecessary risk if you outrange your opponent, but cmon it’s a Felon, he was several seconds late to turn and he still got his nose on before you and had enough time to break off and flare

@donphobos 26 күн бұрын

This has been a heroic fight, kudos!

@BladeKi11a 26 күн бұрын

Still waiting for GS to drop the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”

@Washing_Dirt_Prospecting 26 күн бұрын

That is just silly compared to an actual flight sim...

@PvtPartzz 26 күн бұрын

Whyyyyyyyyyy tho

@DannyB587 26 күн бұрын

C.W. Lemoine's reaction vid to that mission is gold

@FS2K4Pilot 26 күн бұрын

Mixing that Archer in with all those flares was tricky!

@Kenjake26 25 күн бұрын

ITS NOT THE PLANE, ITS THE PILOT 🤣 - Lieutenant Bradley "Rooster" Bradshaw

@waveman2952 25 күн бұрын

Some of the best flying I've seen right up until the point you ate a missile! Great flying Sidewinder

@jeffashworth5752 24 күн бұрын

The next Supremely Outmatched should be a P-47 Vs a A-10, Clash of the Thunderbolts

@SextonHardcastle85 26 күн бұрын

Surviving long enough in a F4 to merge with a Felon is nothing to sneeze at. Good flying!

@Michael_Michaels 26 күн бұрын

Damn! This one was close!! You almost had it!!! Well done!

@wruenvadam 24 күн бұрын

That was some seriously impressive flying. I'd say you definitely showcased the saying "its not the plane, its the pilot," all the way up until it out turned you and blasted you in the face. XD You really made that F-4E look like it actually stood a chance which is the most I could ask for considering its my favorite all time jet aircraft.

@LilMissMurder3409 26 күн бұрын

Noticing you're still alive has to be the greatest feeling ever.

@rodymonster 25 күн бұрын

THE BEST I have ever seen you fly BVR. that was AWESOME!

@Hubba404 26 күн бұрын

"It's not the plane, it's the pilot ins..." SPLAT

@murphyuriaguereka4360 22 күн бұрын

omg that was close man! Insane, good job!

@j.59 21 күн бұрын

Amazed you made it to the merge. Nice work

@sleepingpilot 12 күн бұрын

The beginning at the cockpit view in the Phantom legitimately looks like gopro footage

@HandFromCoffin 20 күн бұрын

2:00 I think you make a good point. You're a "modern pilot" with an old jet. So you know what he's slinging at you.

@Powerhead1000 25 күн бұрын

If you’re going out. That was one hell of a way to go! I was impressed you made it that far against those odds.

@defdaz 25 күн бұрын

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, so close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amazing job, GS!

@rhino269 15 күн бұрын

I'm impressed you managed to stay alive long enough to get face to face with him, that was some great flying despite getting KIA. :)

@Phoenix2.5D 18 күн бұрын

13:38 that's fucking awesome, I never even thought of that

@MrZeek1519 25 күн бұрын

What a fantastic video. More overmatched vids, Please!!!

@radioactive9861 24 күн бұрын

16:03 in, that's a nice radar dish you got there, GS.

@martinblank1484 25 күн бұрын

That was great! One of the best so far...great flying!

@SHARPSPEED 26 күн бұрын

The objective being "survive" is...telling.

@craiga.glesner424 24 күн бұрын

I don't know maybe it's just me but I realized, I miss the Tac View debriefs. I do like the F-4 content though. Another jet of my childhood. Thanks for the entertainment and a smidge of air to air knowledge. :)

@johnnydiaz2685 25 күн бұрын

Damnnn bro. I was hoping u get that missile off on time. The end got me too. Like spooked me lol

@N3wbConscript 26 күн бұрын

Good fight! I’d like to see a rematch, haha. Thanks for the vid as usual, GS!

@Smoldering-Hunk 18 күн бұрын

No idea if you’ve done it, f-14 vs f-4. 2 navy icons would be dope. Keep it up. Love these videos

@aerotorc 25 күн бұрын

Great job getting to the merge - but for the last shot remember Sky Fighters: “The only way to beat the missile is the gun” 😜

@jimm.6542 25 күн бұрын

I don’t normally make comments to your videos, but I watch most of them. I grew up wanting to be an F4 Phantom pilot. You did justice to that aircraft taking it to the merge. I was on the edge of my seat watching this video. I seriously think you should run this one back because I think you might win the next time! Lessons learned……

@Karvega11 25 күн бұрын

There is an AF base about 100 miles from me and about once a month you'll here a sonic boom. I looked up what plane it could be and the flightradar app showed a F-4 Phantom flying away. Pretty cool.