You can (might) hear the radio signals if you run them through an amplifier. But if you're using a passive speaker set there's no amplifiers between the speaker cable and the drivers. If your amplifier handles the noise filtering (as all good ones should) then you won't hear the noise that is picked up by the cables. I'm guessing that the cable you're talking about was the input cable to the amplifier.

Apparently so are photographers who can distinguish a good versus a bad print (color, contrast, exposure not to mention composition)

@@JustBrowsing777 Ugh??!?

@@parasitelights3158 Only a photographer would understand the analogy I guess. An untrained eye can look at a photograph/print and think it's just fine. A trained eye can see all the imperfections. I think the same can be applied to audio. My wife wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a crap audio file playing versus a lossless one. Doesn't mean there is no difference, she just can't tell. With that being said I think there is a ton of snake oil in the audio industry including most cables.

@@JustBrowsing777 I completely understand what you mean - I don't understand what the connection is with the first post and not to mention how bad your comparison is. You have to be very visually impaired so that you can't tell the difference between good and bad printing. For example, I have worked professionally with printing for about 10 years and from day one, without any previous experience it was quite obvious to me what is good and what is bad printing, given that I have vision problems and have never been professionally engaged in photography. And as far as I remember, of all my colleagues, there was only one that I saw carrying a serious camera from time to time. On the other hand, audio is completely subjective - different people hear and like completely different things. Again, I point my self as an example, but for all my life I've heard the bats without any problem, including to this day when I'm approaching 50's and at the beginning I was thinking that this is the norm, but I do not know anyone who hears them. In the high audio classes is a completely different situation and in 99,9% of cases it is a matter of habit. The moment you listen seriously to a system that at first seemed incredible for several months, you hear all the problems and think about upgrading. The same goes for audio formats. And when you fall into this bottomless pit for couple years, at one point you no longer need a few months but a few seconds to hear the difference. But wherever we look at it, you only can hear the difference between a $ 30 and $ 3000 per meter cable only if you've seen it first.

@@parasitelights3158 I guess we just don't agree fullly here then which is fine. My first response to the initial post was meant with slight sarcasm. I have also worked professionally with printing, Photoshop and photography hence my reference. In my experience a majority of ordinary people who hand in their photos to be printed cannot see if a print is perfect or just bland (unless they have 2 or more versions to compare. Even then...). Not referring to professionals or enthusiasts of course.

He knows he would fail a blind test. Simple as that.

So what's the best size and design?

try one. if you dont like it, send it back. till you listen, you cant comment. numbers are only 1/2 the game.

The sad truth is that he likely konws that, if he knows anything about electronics, but chooses to pull a hoodwink on his audience. FM radio signals picked by such an antenna would be at best a few micro-volts (assuming a very high impedance receiving circuit). Not even a microwatt of power available, the only thing that Danny properly hinted _"[otherwise] we would be using it. It would be wireless power transmission"_ A tower speaker requires volts to be driven, and several watts. I.e. a factor of > 1.000.000 (120dB) over whatever RFI the speaker cable might get over the air. And like izools wrote, it'd be in the MHz+ range anyway, outside of the amp/speaker's pass band. That's one reason why audio systems use shielded cables btwn source & pre-amp / amp: bc it is a high impedance & low signal connection. So RFI noise might be picked up as faint noise if these circuits do not properly low pass filter above the audio freq range. But hell no on the amp-speaker connect. Unfortunately most people in his audience don't know better, so they end up looking up to the guy who speaks with authority with FR plots in his hand, not knowing he sometimes peddles false technical arguments to sell his products.

@@paulcs2607 science and engineering gave you the freaking means to be able to enjoy recorded performances again and again you numbskull.

Isn't there a box around the wires ?

@@paulcs2607 You don’t like it when your hand waving heroes get exposed as utterly incompetent. The question I asked is entirely relevant.

@@paulcs2607 haha... Yeah sure

@@paulcs2607 utter bullshit designed to attempt to retain credibility. What you will not ever do is bring your arguments into the ASR community, which is packed full with people who have done extensive listening, scientists who know how the human ear can be fooled because they have proved it. YOU reject science, because if you even hinted at accepted it, virtually everything you espouse would be revealed as utter manipulative nonsense.

I added 3 feets of 3 gauge braided power cable to my 75 feets of 14/2 romex and now I can hear that Nirvana's albums sounded like shit.... Hahaha just kidding

@Jeroen Shouldn't take that long.

Jeroen word is he failed the test so he’s still trying to get above 50%

@@mundie33 😂 That wouldn't surprise me!

Yeah just use Romex or tinfoil

You better pick up a good sofa. It's gonna be a long wait

I'm a long time audio engineer and have my own studio now. Cables can clearly make a difference and there's no question of it, the differences can be quite large. But we cannot measure why we hear the difference. This offends those who beleive our current knowledge is endless and we know everything, but I learnt to make my peace with this 30 years ago, cause theres no point in denying what's right in front of you, and some of the best professional audio engineers, and some of the best equipment designers, will happily admit to chosing some components by ear, as they cannot measure a difference to explain the sonic differences they hear.

Seems to me that the flat earthers in this scenario are the cable believers. They are going by faith alone while the rest of us use evidence.

@Baz Wow, you like your own jokes. Good for you!

@Baz There’s no analogy there. Take your own advice. Just a quick lesson: The “analogy” was suggested by Danny. He calls people who trust only empirical evidence flat earthers. I simply suggested it was the reverse. Your issue is with the OP - Danny. And it’s a simile, not an analogy. And you’re a jerk and fanboy. Oh, and a troll.

It has been a week since this "challenge" was accepted... I don't expect to hear much of a difference over youtube - but with what Danny says, I do expect a group of people (3 to 5) to absolutely identify cable 1 or 2 with close to 80% or higher accuracy.... But, it's been a week....

I don't know what to say. Even I was a non believer till I heard for myself. If you can't hear the difference it might be because your gear/setup may have all kinds of noise. Speak wire isn't enough to solve the issue. I will say don't listen to a proper setup. One you hear the difference you can't unhear it.

@@mrmatthewpaul I guess it's a great thing that neither you or any other human being can hear a difference when proper listening controls are used! I recommend less KZfaq bro science and more AES reading.

I'm curious, how does this make GR Research look bad? Also, balanced only adds another set of problems. Unless you need balanced for some reason, un-balanced is better.

@@joshua43214 Not necessarily. If gear is pseudo balanced, then unbalanced will be better.

@@joshua43214 Now why do professionals use balanced cables?

@@edgar9651 Two main reasons, first and most important is very long cable runs. Second is the cables often end up in close proximity to mains cables and other equipment. Balanced audio requires adding a extra circuitry to both ends. This circuitry is not 100% transparent (and can often be pretty questionable), so using balanced audio when you don't need it actually can degrade your audio. Balanced audio in the right situation is excellent. Where it is not needed it is at best a waste of money.

Danny is a preacher, not a scientist.

That is NOT necessary. A test between ofc 12 ga wire to any other wire is all thats needed. Since no one has ever passed a double blind test, many were made with cheap 12 ga and expensive wire to hopefully be able to tell a difference. I say use high dollar fantastic wire vs cheap 12 ga. But the test needs to be pretty well controlled.

drops mic

Thats true you cant cure even 1 shitty element in a setup with all the best cables in the world. But if you know whats good you could improve even a budget setup if all parts r good. (Like with this channels small but good bookshelf speakers compared to big awesome 3-way setups for example)

This.

Like when they try to use a laser to prove that the earth is flat hahaha

I can't find any of these videos. Got some links?

even if we hear things differently if a speaker sounds natural to you it probably sounds natural to everyone else considering that u and everyone else hears nature that is the same even if u hear it different

Exactly what i want. After that i have to accept the results

@@nicoras8803 not the same, i mean we all listen to the same sounds of nature that even if we hear differently we all recognize it

@@iowaudioreviews Your just not aware. Many of the greatest audio designers will admit they have to pick some components by ear as they cannot measure the difference they can hear. Science should never dictate what you can observe as science is simply our best explanation of an observation, it can never dictate what can be observed (or you'd believe that bumble bees cant fly, or that all amplifiers operating within design limits sound the same.) Show me a machine that can pick up on a violent 'vibe' when you enter a room or will accurately determine an emotion from looking at a human face (robots are getting better, but still cant match humans.) Your belief that we know everything and that everything is quantifiable flies in the face of real experience and shows that far from being a bastion of reason, your intellect is stunted and limited to current knowledge. Thank god the human race still has some creative thinkers.....

@@titntin5178 Or subjective thinkers. Many scientists and engineers are creative thinkers...

F*ck

Hey as long as you happy and not cause some else grief. Go be happy...

You know how sound works don't you? Something must cause vibrations in the air, enough for it to reach your ears. If it can be heard, it can be recorded and it can be measured. So, record the spectrum of a sound played with one cable, record it played with another cable, compare the two spectrums. Why do people, especially older males, think their ears are as accurate as scientific equipment? You probably wear glasses if you're a bit older because eyes, like ears, deteriorate over the years.

You say wire has electrical properties. That’s true. Do you believe these properties are unmeasurable? That can’t be true because you claim that your ears can detect the difference. Therefore it is measurable, and that means you are claiming that your ears are more sensitive instruments than electronics that can detect distortion down to -135 decibels. Do you REALLY stand behind that?

@@plcamp1 , I don't believe that the sense of space and sound staging can be measured. There's more to the sound than just freq. response and such. I've sat and listened to a piece of music then made a change and suddenly it was like the wall behind the speakers was removed, so yes I do believe in science but science isn't the all of it.

@@captainwin6333 , I don't believe that the sense of space and sound staging can be measured. There's more to the sound than just freq. response and such. I've sat and listened to a piece of music then made a change and suddenly it was like the wall behind the speakers was removed, so yes I do believe in science but science isn't the all of it.

Yeah and Amir said he would be happy to see single blind testing in a video recently

@@jules153 Amir should do it himself

I agree but if its single blind there can be no talking and no visual interaction between the listener and the switcher. Small insignificant visual or sound cues that neither the listener or the switcher even knows is happening can radically skew the results.

@@MrDannydjmix2 Amir does not do alot of things he claims that others should do. I watch his vids, and read his blog anyway since he is extremely knowledgeable.

@@joshua43214 not so extremely knowledgeable tho but he definitely knows alot and i still think his a lil ignorant, well his still a nice guy tho and he definitely means well is just that things got a little too contented on his side

well but probably Amir isn't open minded enough to do that, i really dare him to go there and do exactly what u said! on the other hand i believe his a good guy and I'm sure he means well but at least try ones on a good system

@@nicoras8803 well he does know what hes talking about but i don't think anyone knows everything about anything so..

He who has the better equipment wins - wait but I thought you can't measure cables?

Bless your heart, you watch every video and comment.

I mean all he did is show he didn’t actually watch pay attention to the video. The “cable” was plugged in for the test not for the example. And he was able to show this across both cables. The more expensive cable performs far worse. GR glossed right over that. So bless his heart.

@@havok2022 It might have been plugged into the wall, but the other end was not plugged into any gear. He was holding it in his hand. So it had no current flowing through it.

@@dannyrichie9743 ah, so you’re saying the RF field it created on both cables, which was absolutely measurable (and he showed you this) was imaginary? Here’s the deal Danny. Put your money where your mouth is. Instead of the back and forth nonsense, contact Amir and setup a test that meets agreeable terms for both of you. Film it. And post it. You make claims with no supporting measurements in order to sell a product, so you should at least be willing to back it up.

@@havok2022 I don't think you're watching the video I am referring to. He wasn't measuring RFI. He was measuring EMI from a power cable. Secondly, I am not at all concerned with Amir and have no quest to educate him. And we put out money where our month is ever week. We have people here for auditions all the time. We've done 100's of cable comparisons for people. And they always end the same. And we will be doing some filming of some blind cable comparisons as soon as we can so they rest of you can see what we do here all the time.

You actually can see the curvature of the Earth with your own eyes, you just need a large enough body of water and a clear day. The horizon you see would be different if the Earth was flat. Aside from that, there is the classic ship appearing on the horizon proof. If the Earth was flat, ships would never appear or disappear from the horizon, they would only get bigger or smaller. In reality, ships look like they are sinking as the move over the horizon because of the curvature of the Earth.

Yes, Belden makes cables for the specific use cases based on the measured requirements of that category. For some reason however they don’t produce for the case of: “I’m a child of Krypton, half-god blessed with super hearing and need 1000 dollar a foot specialty cables to enjoy variation in music not even the most precise equipment can distinguish!” I wonder why that is?

My customers have been asking for this information and for good quality high end cables at low price points. And we have gained a ton of new customers from doing this. Sales are up greatly across the board. And we are getting repeat from cable sales. They have been a smash hit.

I don't think Amir has listened to music. Pretty sure his favorite track is "signal generator"

@@PlaybackMansion again, who among them is trying to sell a product.

It really dosen’t matter who is the product seller. We people believe what we want to believe. Science or proof never stopped any religion. It just make people believe even stronger.

Randall. Are you saying Amir would not be selling cables if he knew this to be true? Do you see the problem with your argument?

@@mrcohiba1662 feel free to point me to Amir’s product page with his grossly expensive cables and no measurements.

It'll never translate through KZfaqs encoding and compression. But measurements will.

Great Idea, I second this. A while back Ron did an A B comparison of the Klipsch RP600M stock vs GR-Research upgraded crossover. With headphones, I could tell the difference, even though the youtube compression.

Tyler Smith crossovers sure but not speaker cables

Why everyone always compare with the worst cable ever made to made their points? Use a "good" no nonsense cable as a basis. I think a good insulated cable can reject hum and others parasites, but after that its just subjective. Don't forget that everything you hear is measurable. If you do not agree... I can't do nothing for you, because you became the flat earther is this story.

You nailed it straight to the coffin! "Believe" is the right word!!!

That is not required if you control the switcher and the listener. I laid out the procedure in other posts.

No no no of course humans can't hear rf

Yes if you have a wireless system - a microphone for example. Haven't you watched Spinaltap?

@@parasitelights3158 lol….I’m talking 1972, before anything “wireless”

@@robertdiffin9136 Come on, mate, you can't contradict yourself so dramatically in two consecutive posts. Truck drivers had wireless communication but at the same time wireless technology was not invented? The first patent for a wireless microphone is from 1957 and the first studio wireless microphone has been on the market since 1953 - Shure Vagabond 88. By 1972, wireless studio equipment was already old school. Just because you didn't understand what technology you had while playing in the school studio doesn't mean that the same technology hasn't existed for decades. The only way to hear a radio signal is with a radio decoder. In the 1960s, all pretentious bands was used wireless on a large scale, and truck drivers were widely heard during their live shows.

@@parasitelights3158 you are absolutely correct. My implication - poorly worded (and poorly researched) - was we were not using any wireless mics (which I have learned were in use by then). The truckers chatter would be picked up while the system was playing vinyl records on a Thorens turntable through a Sherwood S5500 tube amp into some large wall mounted Wharfedale W70D’s. Was the phono cartridge picking it up? A ground wire, the speaker wires?

Danny does not understand the science, so he cannot setup a valid test.

@@plcamp1 Well i am pretty sure his mods on speakers do improve their sound. So he really understand speakers' science. On speaker cables instead i think he made a wrong comparison. A speaker is not an FM radio. It is a passive devices not active.

It doesn't work that way. Each cable has to be disconnected from the speaker to not effect the signal.

@@dannyrichie9743 that’s why I say use a relay so the connection is severed (at both ends)

But the connection could be severed without a relay just using any analog switch tbh. I say two switches so you can switch at the amp side and the speaker side.

@@ar_xiv You'd have to have a relay at the speaker end also and then there would be another set of cables from the relay tot he speaker that would have to be common. That would not work. And none of that is necessary. Blindfolding the listener is pretty easy, and it makes no difference who or what does the switching.

@@dannyrichie9743 ehh I disagree I don’t see a big problem but whatever

What bullshit is this? If I see a fata morgana in the desert, the measurements need to back up the oasis I’m seeing (I know, cliché) is actually there but if from those measurements it turns out something else is tricking my brain, we should just to denounce science and trust our senses?

@@TofumanFC3S No just don't trust measurements.

Totally agree science is a moving target. The world is not round or a sphere, it is an approximation of one.

@Douglas Blake Every piece of my audio equipment is produced by companies that design and develop their equipment by ear. We don't need more Julian Hirschs. Subjective audio reviewing is defensible because I want something to sound good not measure good. I don't enjoy music more knowing the distortion is .0003% and the noise floor is -90dB. When I have someone over to listen I don't run off the specs to impress them, I just let them listen.

@@TofumanFC3S I didn't say measurements are not important or that our senses are flawless. I'll give you a counter example: a while back we didn't used to discuss jitter. Some folk claimed to experience something off with digital playback equipment but they couldn't explain it at the time. Later science proved jitter was associated with what they were experiencing. With that said, don't you find it possible that we're not measuring the right thing to describe these differences that some people claim to hear? Like for instance, how do you currently measure soundstage differences with any known measuring equipment?

You are right. Most the people giving their 2 cents complaining has not tried a bunch of cables. Ived tried so much cable to know that there are differences sometimes big sometimes not sometimes good or sometimes bad for the system. Mit, cardas, van denhul, tchernov,kimber, oyaide, bewith etc all have their character that may or may not be good for your system.

​@@nicoras8803 I'm assuming you've not understood my comment. I simply said "not everything" as opposed to "everything" can be measured. It is an archaic way of thinking and I stand behind my comment. The foolishness is people trying to convince someone that what one hears or sees is wrong because the individual making such a foolish comment lacks experience and demonstrates a sheer lack of common sense.

I have been asking for decades every time I see someone like you make a comment like this. Can you tell me exactly what they are testing for, and reference the test so I can see for myself? So far, I've never had 1 single person even try. If you can't do that then you're lying.

@@solarfall2728 Just look up ABX testing of cables, lots of proven tests have been published. Last night I read an ABX test of DACs and they failed to tell the difference between expensive dac and cheap dac. You guys are just making up BS about these differences you supposedly hear.

@@Taffy84 Nope. Not going to fall for your BS. My request was very simple. If you had the tests, you would have already produced them. I want to see the tests you read that are so convincing. I've already read the junk science articles. You know you have nothing. You don't want to own your comments so you won't be embarrassed. That's all it is. It has nothing to do with audio equipment.

And many people choose Bud Light over a raft brewed IPA.

@@charlesgrubbs2101 If I'm reading your post right, I agree. Sometimes the cheaper cable sounds better. Happens all the time.

You are correct.

Isn't typically attenuated though with a small value cap/resistor on the output terminals? I know on my ADCOM power amp there is a .1uF cap and 4.7ohm resistor in parallel between the + and - terminals.

@@OHMAudioChannel There is some attenuation there and some amps do address it, but that is a low order filter. It does not remove it.

@@dannyrichie9743 Makes sense. Thanks for the added info Danny. Looking forward to the follow up videos. This has been a really interesting series.

@@dannyrichie9743 Yep, and we went to the moon in 1969. Oh and it and the Earth are spheres.

😂😂😂

He also described the placebo effect perfectly. Of course there are many instances where a professional will pick up on things which someone inexperienced will completely miss. But it's also widely demonstrated that people will also experience what they expect to happen.

@@andys844 The placebo effect can easily be managed by making a conscious effort to avoid it, as well as by various strategies that help to minimize it, such as having several listeners present, setting your mind on the positives of either outcome (one gets me a better sounding system, the other saves me spending money on the new equipment), repeated listening tests, comparing three or more alternative products, including a low budget product among the options that will clearly present a difference, and there are a few others.

@@SpeakerBuilder I'd argue that in the case of speakers, the placebo effect is quite hard to manage. Having several listeners present can present it's own problems. Multiple experiments have shown people are often swayed by those they deem more knowledgeable or the group's idea (juries are prone to this). Focusing on the positives of both outcomes doesn't really mitigate the placebo. It's more of a cost-benefit analysis and isn't really applicable to deciding which sounds better/clearer etc. The listener should have no knowledge of price or other qualities, like what the product benefits are supposed to be while conducting the test. This is incredibly hard to do with experienced listeners because they will likely know the equipment beforehand. Yes, having more than an A/B choice does provide a more reliable outcome but in practice is can be very hard to achieve. For example, doing a speaker comparison. You might compare three speakers, but we know that placement can be critical to the sound you hear, so how do you compare them against one another in a blind way and maintain their placement and not give away to the listener which speaker is playing and not interfere with the sound in other ways like covering it with another material. Testing speaker cables should be feasible though. A black box of contactors can be used to switch between various cables and record which is active at anytime. It should be possible to design the black boxes in such a way that it's not clear which cable has been selected by listening to the connections being made of timing the changeover.

What a load of BS. All pseudo science.

@@StewartMarkley Cute. At least you tried.

That's it, make your own. Blue Jeans Cable will give you top quality and charge you what the pros pay. 12 pf/foot for RCA, and no nonsense about resistance from your speaker cables (10 ft ~ 50 milliohms in series with more than 1,000 milliohms in a worst case scenario, 4000+ milliohms typical, so the voltage divider is essentially trivial, yet hucksters would have you spend up to $1000 on a pair of cables. One of the best amps out there right now goes for $900 new, why spend more on the wires than the amp?

@@iowaudioreviews i doubt that will happen. a guy who designs and builds kits this amazing is no charlatan.

Ron lost all credibility with me when he said he could hear the difference the tube connecters made.

One thing that I feel some don't realize, and that is important to note, is that Danny's overall System (Speaker, Electronics, Room, Wiring, etc.) give Danny the opportunity to hear things that others (Speaker designers, Electronics manufacturers, us Audiophile consumers, etc.) simply cannot. His system is to a large degree off the grid and very resolute, and therefore allows Danny to hear into the music more so than most. And so yeah, it then allows Danny to do the 'magic' that he does (Speaker designs, Crossover designs, etc.). Just something to consider...

@@iowaudioreviews No problem, remain a skeptic... your loss.

@@iowaudioreviews The differences in speaker cables and interconnects is not tone, but precision and accuracy in the soundstage. If it's affecting tone, it's likely doing damage to the signal and isn't a good cable. The differences in power cables is dynamics and life. Believe me when i tell you, I used to be a skeptic. But I've listened to Danny and Paul (and others, but those two have brought me the most knowledge that have really transformed my system). I'm a DIY guy so I thought, what the hell, and I built my own interconnects, speaker cables, and power cables. Yes, there was a huge difference. I didn't change anything in the gain, room, or anything. But after installing the power cables, guess what, everything was more dynamic and hit harder, including the subs. But, don't take my word for it, ask my closet door, which started rattling like crazy after the power cable install. The power cables were the only change! Gain was the same. Room was the same, from speaker and furniture placement. Everything was the same. I ended up lowering my subs gain 3db to tame the rattling. lol I'd like to add, I believe the disconnect with skeptics is the prices of these exotic cables. I'm right there with you. I can't muster up the balls to pay for them. DIY is my friend. It's been an amazing journey.

It is not useless, but it can be overkill. A single blind test properly run will do it. But, properly run is the hard part.

Surprising how many people trust a few computer statistics over the extraordinary human ear. The tympanic middle ear has been evolving for over 200,000,000 years. But since ears can't crank out a pretty graph some people think ears don't matter. Evolutionary Biology is Science and Ears Matter

@@PlaybackMansion Your ears are made for listening, not measuring. Easy proof of that is to do actual measurements. Some typical resolution limits for the ear are about 1Hz, 1dB, and 0.5% distortion (this one is the hardest to estimate). Below that you cannot perceive the differences, and this is easily proved. Try this test, and note how difficult it is to separate the tones that are only about ~1Hz different. You can perceive it, but with great difficulty: www.themusiclab.org/quizzes/td The ear is a wonderful thing... for perceiving the world around you. However, I always buttress my listening with measurements. Properly done, they never disagree. Only difference is the measurement will be several orders of magnitude more sensitive, and I can get actual numbers to go with what I hear.

I know right? And lies just keep coming and coming...

@@PlaybackMansion Do you have any statistics that show how extraordinary the human ear is compared to an expensive analyser? It funny how scientists are always wrong but the people that determine that never have any data.

@@PlaybackMansion yes because a microphone doesn't down regulate to too much stimulation, and doesn't have homeostatic and diurnal variance...

they only make a difference over distances that you can not have in a home.... 100KM there is a difference, from line losses, 1000 feet, meh. 100 feet, nope.

“...dismiss this based on theory...” Let me fix that for you: “....dismiss this based on science...”

“It’s easy to go to breath underwater. Anyone who thinks otherwise has not tried, hasn’t got good lungs or has breathing problems.”

Then explain the abx tests already done that proved ppl can't tell a difference. Go look it up, the data is published on the web. Look up coat hanger wire vs esoteric cable. They have done ABX testing on amps too and many ppl preferred the cheap amp. Explain that.

2x blind is often overkill in audio, I agree. Note: Amir fully espouses listening as part! of comparative testing AND he stresses the relevance of instrumental measurement data. But: Often we start arguing back and forth and really we have experimental setups that are flawed ( Goes for both "camps“), some of that was addressed in this video. 1 thing though: If he can hear a "hum“, he can measure it. That is one of the easy ones, not anywhere near as complex as speaker comparison. Imho both camps have a partial hold on the "Truth“ and the placebo effect is a bitch "You are the easiest person to fool“.

@@HelmutRockstroh one camp says cables make no audible difference...the other says they do...how can both be partially right? It sounds good to say this "both camps" stuff, but it makes no logical sense.

Weather KZfaq is set to 1080p or 4k the audio stays the same. Uses Opus 251 codec which I believe is variable about 160kbps so good MP3 quality. Far as I know there isn't a way get it any better.

I am with you on all of that. One thing I would note though. While Amir does do some listening to a speaker he tests, he only listens to one speaker. So he really isn't hearing what is brought to the table. He listened to one of our X-LS Encore speakers. It was a base level model. He liked it and recommended it. But he never really listened to a pair of them.

@Douglas Blake Right, my point was that it's impossible to know what caused any change when you alter multiple variables at once.

@@dannyrichie9743 I'm not trying to say anyone preaches the gospel. Over on his channel I had to point out that, you're not telling people they need to spend thousands of dollars, and you are not getting rich off your relatively inexpensive cable kits. I just want to jump on the notion that anyone here really has any ulterior motives or is unqualified.

@Douglas Blake did you check that with a debt, Doug. Could be expectation bias!

@Douglas Blake I was talking about me, switching out both the cables and connection method.

Could you provide a link to info about Colorado mountaintop experiment? Thank you

15000 is ridiculous for 3 feet yes no doubt even i agree that cables impact the sound the snake oil is in the prices and the marketing

@@MrDannydjmix2 Agree, believe it or not there are cables that cost that much for a pair. Of course made out of pure silver.🤯

@@bigjay1970 there are cables that cost more then 100 000

@@MrDannydjmix2 Gee wizzz🤯😳

@@bigjay1970 i do believe cables can make a big difference, most cheap cables are really poor quality, bad connectors etc, but no way in h*** those 100 000 cables are worth the price!

Comrade Stalin vould be weary disappointed to learn of somebody describing the benefits of a product und then having the nerve to sell something!!

His only problem is he won't do real science of doing and reconciling objective measurements and his subjective impressions. Real science requires both, just ad hoc subjective impressions is not true science. Danny should try to step up to doing true science if he wants to teach the world.

@@StewartMarkley So if 2 items that measure pretty much identically to the point naysayers say no one could possibly hear a difference, but the cheaper one sounds like shit, you would buy it "cause science". Like all super-low distortion DACs must sound identical and therefore are perfect and one need not buy anything else but a cheap DAC, right? Sorry, but if you believe that, you may save a lot of money, but you will never find that magic an exceptional unit will make. It's your loss, due to "science". I don't think anything has changed more than "science facts", in my lifetime.

@@46wireboy For the record, I purchased the drivers and built the Encore X-MTM cabinets designed by Danny but I don't use any speaker cables or power cables because I built amplifiers and active crossovers that sit on top of the speakers with very short wires heading directly to the drivers, and are powered by 48-volt batteries that are not connected to the AC mains when I use the system. So I save bundles of money and get better sound by avoiding potential problems rather than trying to tweak the system with dubious benefit. And I have the knowledge, tools, and time to measure and listen my way to audio bliss because I am now a retired audio and electronics engineer. As far as Danny trying to be a teacher, I think that it is a noble cause to undertake and I applaud him for the attempt. However unfortunately Danny makes no attempt to try to understand and reveal WHY and HOW he hears what he says he hears, which is what real science, real scientists, and real engineers always try to do. Saying that a whole cable industry exists is not evidence, proof, or science. It also is not science when someone does some measurements which they interpret to mean that there is not enough objective difference to make a subjective difference and for someone to claim that there IS an audible difference they are simply wrong. And leave it at that without making any attempt to replicate the conditions where people claim to hear obvious differences. Both conclusions suffer from INSUFFICIENT science and form the basis for ardent and zealous fans for both sides, neither one being sufficiently grounded in science to proclaim victory. Sadly I think that the struggle will continue probably forever mainly because of preconceived ideas and expenditures on fixes by the cable believers, and the inordinate cost of doing real scientific and statistically reliable double-blind testing that MAY help convince SOME of the cable naysayers that audible differences might actually exist under SOME conditions. But without attempting to uncover if, how, and why audible differences occur, there is only INSUFFICIENT SCIENCE going on. As Albert Einstein has been famously quoted as saying, "everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." And his natural curiosity of why and how there were observable differences from Newtonian physics led to a new and refined view of the universe. That's REAL SCIENCE.

Yeah but if it takes years of focused observation and "knowing what to listen for" for any of this to make a difference, what are we doing here? To me that's listening to your equipment instead of listening to the music. Never understood why you would want to spend great time and effort to learn how to recognize that your music, which always sounded great before, actually sounds terrible. My system cost more than a new Honda Civic and it still sounds like trash according to a lot of so-called audiophiles because it didn't cost more than a BMW in. Buy if I spent that it's still crap til you spend an S Class Mercedes on it. Let's just admit we are nerds with a gadget fetish as our wives well know. 😀

You never visited a garage for a tyre change have you?

No.