Gryphon Audio: The sound (my opinion)

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Real HIFI Help

Real HIFI Help

Күн бұрын

Deep review plus a surprise at the end.
I highly recommend trying Gryphon, it is one of the few brands that seems too pricey, but will many times actually save you a lot of money long term if you stick with it.
If you need help with your Hi-Fi system or general advice, then send me a mail to: realhifihelp@gmail.com (my name is Larry)
For free help, then look at my videos and comments. Then there are several 1000’s of hours put into these videos for the entire community. (circa 450 videos)

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@RealHIFIHelp
@RealHIFIHelp 2 жыл бұрын
If you need help with your Hi-Fi system or general advice, then send me a mail to: realhifihelp@gmail.com (my name is Larry) For free help, then look at my videos and comments. Then there are several 1000’s of hours put into these videos for the entire community. (circa 450 videos)
@IDontExist14
@IDontExist14 2 жыл бұрын
Larry ur so helpful on email, people don't have any idea, I say u should do some more vids maybe do reviews like other channels but in ur own style, but do follow there pattern of mentioning all the bs like frequency response etc, this is to get more people interested then slowly take them down the rabbit hole, just some advice if u wanna get more subs but KZfaq doesn't pay enough but maybe brands like audio note could send u something if u become large enough , do audio note know about your Channel
@michalryszawy
@michalryszawy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thats great You are back. I love Your passion and work. Greetings 😀
@brunorivademar5356
@brunorivademar5356 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you back. Just wanted to let you know your passion and knowledge is very much appreciated. :))
@aficionadohiend
@aficionadohiend 2 жыл бұрын
Great Analysis. Thanks.
@IDontExist14
@IDontExist14 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid bro 👍
@skynguyen7545
@skynguyen7545 2 жыл бұрын
It good to have you back! I will email you soon for help on my audio note system after I get all set up. I will love to have you review my system and point out to me if am going in the right direction?
@shingnosis
@shingnosis 2 жыл бұрын
I'm personally very interested in the Diablo 120, it's expensive like all gryphon gear but for a small "no hassle" system you can live with for a long time it ticks a lot of boxes. I might build a completely new system this year and either a Diablo 120 or something from Audio Note would be very interesting. Just have to figure out what speakers I want too.. so many options.
@nikolaoskakalis8465
@nikolaoskakalis8465 2 жыл бұрын
Larry thank you very much for the presentation and your opinion. In the 1 - 10 ranking, Pass Labs is not included. Can you please comment based on your experience please? Thank you very much.
@InnovativeBuildersmd
@InnovativeBuildersmd 2 жыл бұрын
I am picking up a gryphon essence stereo amp and preamp saterday to audition in my system. I had the new classe delta set before on loan from my dealer it was quite good. After this i want to try the McIntosh c12000/mc901s. I have 2way jbl 4367 , m2s , klipcsh la scala’s , jbl 4722’s and a couple other Big horn speakers im a fan of. Im really interested in the biamp crossover ability of the mc901s using the tube amp for the mid/hi horn and the ss for the woofers.
@jatmcpp
@jatmcpp 2 жыл бұрын
Hola Que altavoces has probado con el Diablo 300?. ¿Que altavoces, que no sean los propios de Gryphon, recomiendas para Gryphon? Gracias
@jdm-uk-yank
@jdm-uk-yank Жыл бұрын
I heard an Spectral amp with Avalon speakers in Boston years ago. It was one of the most memorable experiences I've ever had in audio.
@neilwood8794
@neilwood8794 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Diablo 250 and 300....i use ps audio directstream dac with mine... the gryphon vip speaker cable is one of the best speaker cables avaliable... Sublime 💕
@viorelciprian8765
@viorelciprian8765 Жыл бұрын
Hello. Your opinion about rotel sound ?!
@henriksrensen3220
@henriksrensen3220 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Gryphon Diablo 120 amp/dac integrated. The best amp I have owned.
@shingnosis
@shingnosis 2 жыл бұрын
What speakers are you using, or would you recommend, for this amp? Small to medium sized room. Are you happy with the integrated DAC? Thanks.
@henriksrensen3220
@henriksrensen3220 2 жыл бұрын
@@shingnosis Hi. I think the dac module is great, and it would be difficult to find better for the money, im very happy with the sound. I use Audiovector R1 arrete standmount speakers in my medium sized room. Audiovector and Gryphon has great synergy. I know that Audiovector uses Gryphon amplification at their factory.
@shingnosis
@shingnosis 2 жыл бұрын
@@henriksrensen3220 Thank you! :)
@henriksrensen3220
@henriksrensen3220 2 жыл бұрын
@@shingnosis you are welcome
@henriksrensen3220
@henriksrensen3220 2 жыл бұрын
@@shingnosis last year i had a chance to buy a used Gryphon Scorpio S cd player, but i was told that the dac module is better sounding than the Scorpio S own dac, also the same conclusion in a review from hifi plus magazine.
@nicktube3904
@nicktube3904 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Larry, I play for a long time with Isis mainscable with Wattgate silver plugs, which I like. But since a while I’m searching for a more sophisticated sound and tried the pure silver plugs from Iego (8095 and the new ti2020bk). The sound is soo smooth, natural and has enough ‘higher class warmth’ not the gold-style warmth. Great with Audio Note gear! For my streamer it was to much, here more forgiving Wattgate fits better. If I’m correct you work in IT-computers.. I was wondering why you don’t speak about audiophile switches and Ethernet cables. The audio switches with good lpsu’s act the same way as the Gustard and Audio GD reclock boxes. Common noise will travel with data in to the streamer and dac. Extra audio switches with good lpsu’s evolve your system to a new level. First I tried the Cisco 2960, than added Uptone Etherregen. But the most significant was adding a Farad Lpsu with all the upgrades! The soundstage is use, everything is way more pronounced, more mature.. But audio switch is not needed you can use some cheaper second hand switches in cascade mode and isolate by SFP.
@cleese74
@cleese74 2 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone! Has anyone tried Gryphon amp with Nagra preamp?
@ericstefko4852
@ericstefko4852 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard the Luxman Class A amps? what are your thoughts of them if you did
@RealHIFIHelp
@RealHIFIHelp 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I have heard most of their models up to around year 2018. I like Luxman but also Yamaha and Accuphase. Especially Luxman has a place in my heart where I think that price wise they are very reasonable. I have dedicated a whole chapter in my book to those 3 brands, since they have a lot of potential for harvesting top sound. Send me a mail if you are interested in the book, then you can get a free preview of it in PDF format.
@ericstefko4852
@ericstefko4852 Жыл бұрын
have you ever heard the Audionet amplifiers from Germany, I heard they are well regarded
@bricedoan6695
@bricedoan6695 2 жыл бұрын
I own a Diablo 300 but i prefer to use another brand's DAC instead of the built in DAC. My DAC is the Aqua Formula xHD Rev 2.
@connorduke4619
@connorduke4619 3 ай бұрын
I would recommend anyone to demo the new Rotel Michi P5 pre and S5 power combination, that outperforms pretty much everything.
@indravatar
@indravatar 2 жыл бұрын
which is better diablo 300 or mcintosh ma12000 ?
@RealHIFIHelp
@RealHIFIHelp 2 жыл бұрын
Mcintosh ma12000 is probably the best Mcintosh amplifier on the market IMO in terms of sounding most natural/being the best integrated sound not just as an amp, but in the way of not creating a preamp so the sound usually gets a bit away from the down to earth/intimate sound over to the more technical sound with poweramp/preamp combo, and even though the diablo 300 is really good I feel that the ma12000 is slightly better. I heard them both recently. But as soon as you go into stuff like Gryphon Mephisto nothing Mcintosh produces comes close, even though the ma12000 and especially the mc901 with the new top mcintosh preamp is superb. Both brands are very versatile taking room matching and speakers into consideration, so it isn't an easy thing to decide upon, more the price that makes the decision for you. On my wishlist I would want the Mephisto, then the mc901 with the new preamp, then the ma12000 and then the diablo 300 even though they all are very different and unique in their own way.
@paullongtailpair3812
@paullongtailpair3812 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Larry, i have seen a few of your video's this morning and i must thank you for the entertainment, it is absolutely clear that you don't have any knowledge on any of the subjects you try to discuss. Everything you telling makes me laugh, many thanks for that. I wish you all the best with your trial and errors because of you will never have a propper audio system. HiFi --> faitfull to the origional means that the system, including the accoustical environment your in, MUST BE FULLY TRANSPARENT. Tweeking your systems with unproovable hacks wil never get you anywhere close to it.
@RealHIFIHelp
@RealHIFIHelp 2 жыл бұрын
It's obvious from everything that you have written that you have not tried any of these things, and that constitutes all your considerations. If you have to have something work for your logically before you try it, then you are going to miss out on a lot in life and have opinions about stuff that does not always reflect reality. I do not expect everyone to agree, only to keep an upon mind and to try new stuff. Best HiFi wishes for you.
@audiofun999
@audiofun999 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a chance try to listen to Audionet gear, at least on a Pre G2 + Max monoblocks level. You might find them to be a better value than Gryphon / Dan D’Agostino. Also very powerful, natural sounding and have the sound that is easy to work with.
@henriksrensen3220
@henriksrensen3220 2 жыл бұрын
Audionet is not better value than gryphon.
@sidvicious3129
@sidvicious3129 2 жыл бұрын
How can you have a brand in a spot if you have not heard it (Vac, Einstein) or a brand that you are not sure about (YBA), Kondo. Audio Note number 1…..Ah…..no, Nagra Audio 2…..Ah no, but you are right it’s your list. We have to be careful about saying top brands since their are so many brands that haven’t been heard, but I can give you some credit because it’s your list and brands like Dan D’ Agostino, Burmeister, CH Precision, Vac, and Gryphon do deserve to be on anyone’s list. I think built in Dac can be a good thing and sound great, but Dac Technology changes too rapidly. I for one want all separates so when Dac technology changes, I can change with it if that change is worth changing to. I know that there are companies that do modular designs that allow replacement, but those replacements are often slow to happen or don't happen at all due to profitability.
@hkgoodman888
@hkgoodman888 11 ай бұрын
I have B&W805D3, planning to upgrade the amplifier. I mostly listen to pop music. Which of the following amplifier would be suggested? 1.) Hegel H390 2.) Gryphon Diablo 120 3.) Soulnote A2 3.) Used Classe CP-500/CP-800 Pre Amplifier + CA-2200 Amplifiers Appreciate any opinions
@danielesbordone1871
@danielesbordone1871 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard the new Michi line ?
@RealHIFIHelp
@RealHIFIHelp 2 жыл бұрын
Not yet.
@Pou-der-Zucker
@Pou-der-Zucker 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that is certain is that everything is subjective. Since you are a tube-fan the order of the list is ok. This will surely change if you had listened to Boulder or Constellation. 4 Sure!
@RealHIFIHelp
@RealHIFIHelp Жыл бұрын
My blog page: realhifihelp.wordpress.com/
@a.senghor9168
@a.senghor9168 2 жыл бұрын
Audio note UK? Seriously?
@chuckles59
@chuckles59 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think "Real HIFI Help" knows the sordid history of Audio Note UK; if he did.. he wouldn't put it at #1!
@LenSaPrinz
@LenSaPrinz 2 жыл бұрын
Real Hifi Help Hi Larry is the Diablo 120 Integrated Amplifier also a Streaming player tks
@RealHIFIHelp
@RealHIFIHelp 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I have never tried it. I think it is an amp/DAC only.
@LenSaPrinz
@LenSaPrinz 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealHIFIHelp ok noted with thank for your reply.have a great day.
@user-oe1jk2ro4o
@user-oe1jk2ro4o 2 жыл бұрын
Lampizator is one of the best in the world 😊
@chasehatton3691
@chasehatton3691 2 жыл бұрын
They Gryphon Diablo 300 is best described as that girl at the party : impressive clothes , has all the right things to say , quite attractive yet is a letdown in fact as she goes about everything in a colorless and lifeless manner. The Gryphon folks must be offering audio dealers fairly great spiffs to sell their products. As there is no other reason for it's popularity. The Vitus is a a breaking ray of sunlight compared to the Gryphon.
@RealHIFIHelp
@RealHIFIHelp 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the Mephisto is a lot better than the Diablo 300. I have not yet heard Vitus to comment about it, only heard from friends what they think about Vitus.
@henriksrensen3220
@henriksrensen3220 2 жыл бұрын
I totally don't agree. I prefer Gryphon. Gryphon better than Vitus
@hartgemini007
@hartgemini007 Жыл бұрын
Interesting comment Chase as I was looking at both the Vitus & Diablo 300, my dealer brought round the Diablo 300 to demo , the one thing it definitely isn’t is colourless or lifeless as you mention. Mines hooked up to a MSB DAC & Avalon speakers along With Antipodes top server -it’s the most natural organic sounding system I’ve ever heard by a Country mile. I did mention the Vitus amp to my dealer - he gets a lot of customers trading them in for Gryphon all the time , interestingly when I went to collect my 300 at the distributors they had just had a delivery of Gryphon, 20 Diablo 300’s all sold plus a number of the bigger amps as well. Nationally Gryphon is their biggest selling brand by some margin. I’ve never seen a negative review on the 300 or any mention of it being as you described - but like all things hi fi it’s personal . I demoed both the DCS Bartok & Tambaqui both were very good however MSB was in another league as I wanted natural organic real sounding not digital .
@Youtuber-ku4nk
@Youtuber-ku4nk 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Diablo 300 with built-in DAC last year and I love it. It was important for me, this time, to buy a more compact system. Before I had 3-part system from Hegel (pre P-30, power H20 and DAC HD-30). The Hegel was really good - very powerfull and great dynamic range. But the Diablo is another step or two up - especially in the lower frequencies. My next focus is to find something better than my Mac mini with powermodul modified (software: Audirvana). I'm currently interested in Auralic Aries G2.1. By the way... If someone is interested in buying my Hegel gear, text me :)
@danielhifi3147
@danielhifi3147 2 жыл бұрын
T+A High Voltage already...
@Puroplatino
@Puroplatino 2 жыл бұрын
This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. You’re ranking companies without hearing them all? Like Kondo is 4th best but you said you don’t really know because you didn’t actually listen to them? Yeah subbed and I un-subbed real quick. I know enough people in the world who think they know it all. ✌🏼
@RealHIFIHelp
@RealHIFIHelp 2 жыл бұрын
If you paid attention in class and have seen this video together with the rest I did. Then I openly said that I have listened to most gear on the market, which most reviewers have not. And I mentioned that I have probably done the most amount of tests on the market, together with most combinations of other gear. So that is at least 90% of the market that I have tested. Then there are all the hundreds of pieces of gear that I have owned. Then I have heard at least 300 units of Audio Note in standard version, then modified. Same story with Mcintosh, Cambridge, NAD. So my point of reference is at the highest level that you won't ever see from another guy on the net. Then I have only heard a couple of Kondo amps and other pieces of gear that they made like speakers, DACs.... (from the new and golden Kondo age) And I have been able to deduce from that little experience how the brand really is overall. And the rest that is on the list that I have not heard, I have from friends and aquintances that are on some of the highest levels with audio, told me about the designs/sounds they got from using them. And I openly said that I would guess that they are this rank on the list. So when you have reached my level, then at that time you can judge me. That was the missing context in your statement, which by the way was for free, so you did not have to read 10 years of reviews to get close to that opinion. I have in this video provided the precise context of Gryphon to for example Audio Note, which also nobody else has done. And no I do not need to heard the rest of Gryphon to know how good it is at my level. You just have to try 3 random Gryphon amps to know that they are awesome.
@tuathadedanann195
@tuathadedanann195 7 ай бұрын
They measure poorly with a lot of channel differences - over 15 db in some parameters indicating engineering and QC issues. Absolute numbers aren't that great either. Not too confidence inspiring on $100k+ power amps where I would expect state of the art performance and impeccable quality control.
@RealHIFIHelp
@RealHIFIHelp 6 ай бұрын
How good something measures is more an indicator of how analytical/controlled it is going to sound, not the actual quality of sound. If it is defect, just contact them and get it fixed. Or just buy the su-r1000 which is a lot of the same sound, just more natural and neutral, but without the giga power/meaty sound.
@tuathadedanann195
@tuathadedanann195 6 ай бұрын
@RealHIFIHelp disagree. true in some cases but not all. for 100k plus usd they should not have those issues. Good sound and good engineering go hand in hand.
@petergreen8101
@petergreen8101 2 жыл бұрын
One thing's for sure, you can't pronounce D'Agostino!
@jdm-uk-yank
@jdm-uk-yank Жыл бұрын
I heard Carver once, yawn.
@robertozanetti7707
@robertozanetti7707 4 ай бұрын
You are making a pointless argument, the design of a high-end power amplifier is a far more complex thing than what you have analysed, you don't build quality with speeches ........
@RealHIFIHelp
@RealHIFIHelp 4 ай бұрын
I am talking about the sound, you are just going off topic making this about something else. Itś pointless to you because you don´t understand my references because you have not heard what I did throughout the years. Just go back and clear up that misunderstanding.
I am DONE with Gryphon and here is WHY!
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