GSG MP40 9mm vs Original WWII MP40

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GSG MP40 9mm vs Original WWII MP40

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In this video, I discuss the differences between the GSG MP40 pistol and an original WWII MP40. This is a table-top comparison and side by side overview. Enjoy. Thanks!

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@sawsickness Жыл бұрын

Why is there so much hate for the replica? It's $500, not $5000 and certainly not $30,000. It still fires and it's still cool to own! The price is right IMO

@cadenreker 14 күн бұрын

Replica is not fully automatic meaning less cool

@dwdrumshdmotorcyclesvirgom7379 13 күн бұрын

@@cadenreker If you dont mind having the ATF in your business then get a full auto!

@golf-n-guns 7 жыл бұрын

Repeal the NFA

@Strato50 6 жыл бұрын

Funny how these are (will be) perfectly fine to own in Canada. Suckers.

@sandervanduren2779 5 жыл бұрын

Jordan Kipp these are perfectly legal in the US, too. They’re just neutered by the factory(no stock and semi auto only)

@bgarland5122 5 жыл бұрын

@@Strato50 we have more freedom here an we have the balls to rise up one day

@colegilliam2379 5 жыл бұрын

Jordan Kipp atleast we can own ak’s because our government isnt retarded

@ffarmchicken 5 жыл бұрын

Anyone against repealing the NFA should turn in all their firearms to the police and continue voting for Democrats.

@andydr908 3 жыл бұрын

Bakelite under the barrel allows to hook the gun in the armored vehicle firing port, and prevents the muzzle from backing into the vehicle during firing and bullets ricocheting inside.

@RobertCraft-re5sf Жыл бұрын

Ingenious

@KillerRedVine 7 жыл бұрын

Just ordered one, and can't wait to give it a shot... or more. Figured that there won't be anything closer to the original for the price, so I jumped.

@patrickkt423 6 жыл бұрын

Is it a good shooter?? Any problems??

@NoblesTx 6 жыл бұрын

..... wellllllll?

@vincivedivicilextalionas4036 5 жыл бұрын

Shot mine today boys i *fucking loved it*

@georgluger9501 7 жыл бұрын

Despite being from the 40's the original MP40 seems to be made to a higher standard of manufacture. That being said, I'm still very happy that ATI is bringing in 9mm MP40s!

@TheLouisianan 5 жыл бұрын

The MP40 was actually a cheapened version of the MP38 because the MP38 was a milled receiver and expensive to make. The MP40 was essentially the cheap version with mostly stamped parts to consume less raw materials and speed up production.

@victorglaviano 4 жыл бұрын

Almost all Machine Pistols (MP) or its later brethren sub-machine guns are stamped, they're designed to be produced quickly and cheaply, this is why the US military no longer uses them, last one was the M3. The M3 or known in the military as the grease gun, was a flop! Started production in 1942,issued to tankers some paratroopers, staff and artillery units. Because of its stamped production, using plastic parts in some cases it was prone to literally falling apart when fired because it's an inertia cyclic weapon. But hey, they looked, cool! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_submachine_gun

@dizzzave357 Жыл бұрын

I dunno, look at how poor the machining is on the bottom of the upper on the original. Other than the recoil spring assembly, the clone looks higher quality and generally improves on the original while keeping the aesthetics 99% intact.

@dusk1083 5 жыл бұрын

I got mine and I LOVE it, no issues great shooter, read a lot about things vibrating out no issues, just lock tight the usual things, like screws that hole the black plastic down, put around 200 rnds through it without a cleaning and no failures, the bar that connects the trigger is a bit mushy under the ejection side plastic bit, but Atlantic wall blanks sells a good stainless steel replacement, or if you're feeling frisky you can make your own, all in all great gun, I hope some one makes Bakelite replacements for the black polymer some day!

@charlesvickrey1509 3 жыл бұрын

I saw another video on replacing the trigger bar like the one Atlantic Wall sells. So I decided to make my own I will attach a photo if possible. Not having the oval slot in the front takes a lot of play/sloppiness out of the trigger.

@amorfati4559 5 жыл бұрын

The Germans had a milled version called the mp38, but the mp40 was developed as a cost effective replacement with it's stamped parts.

@rzr2ffe325 7 жыл бұрын

It's a historical gun...why does it need to have modern "improvements"? practicality or advantages are unwanted...I would much prefer a 1:1 replica

@massv953 6 жыл бұрын

Cant make a open bolt legally for one.

@rzr2ffe325 6 жыл бұрын

Cory R Understood, but this is completely different. The disassembly, the safety, the magazine incompadibilty. It doesn't even hold 32 which I thought was a trademark of this gun. The hi-visbility night sights, cheap pot metal...wtf. An abomination I tell you!

@MrBioniclefan1 5 жыл бұрын

Rzr2ffe I know right it’s not a MP-40

@buntspecht5180 5 жыл бұрын

German Gun Laws

@Brisco_County_Jr 5 жыл бұрын

Should've taken after Poland. The PPSH-43 C is a damn good semi auto representation of the real thing.

@Scott-hh3gh 7 жыл бұрын

Great video! I got one coming in. Years back while with a WW-II SS reenactment group, one of our members had the real thing and I got the chance to fire it full auto with live rounds, it was a beautiful weapon. The GSG MP4- I'm buying will just be for plinking at the range and not for hunting/home defense as I have several AR's and more various weapons for that purpose.

@kratoleaf7619 Жыл бұрын

can you use blanks on this new MP40?

@endonol4408 6 жыл бұрын

The original MP40 system was open bolt action, it can full auto because operate much cooler than closed-bolt designs due to the airflow allowed into the chamber

@raymiller9603 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I bought a gag mp40 at the Tanner gun show yesterday and all the questions I had you showed me thank you:)

@LesGitesTrepart 7 жыл бұрын

By the way, no issues with my GSG functions perfectly. Maybe I got one of the good ones.

@chzzyg2698 7 жыл бұрын

I was on a waiting list for one of these back in March with my dealer, but something odd happened where ATI ran out of stock or my dealer got lost on the list or something of a combo of the two. I'm a bit salty about it, because I was going to be cut a good deal on it.

@dirtywhiteboy4963 6 жыл бұрын

thanks for the vid and the info! i just bought one at my local gun show,and have had good luck so far! i always wanted one !

@Anchanthai 7 жыл бұрын

You can own an open bolt weapon as long it was manufactured before the 1986 NFA (USA) law went into affect (Grandfathered in). Just an FYI.

@matthewkuhn8692 6 жыл бұрын

Yes. All open bolts produced after 1986. They say its too easy to convert into a machine gun.

@vince1609 6 жыл бұрын

Matthew Kuhn they’re not banned the ones made from 81 to 86 are considered full auto no matter what making them nfa items and ones made post 86 can only be owned by dealers ones that are semi made before 81 are still considered semi and need no paper work

@pickeljarsforhillary102 5 жыл бұрын

ATF has no idea of how big of idiots they are. Now, I silently wait for the ATF to kick down my front door.

@sdivine13 4 жыл бұрын

They had to have been registered with the ATF before 1986 otherwise they're still illegal.

@victorglaviano 4 жыл бұрын

@@WildernessMedic some weapons made today are open bolt and are not banned, SCAR, FS 2000 and a couple others, it's a cost thing mostly. Plus some weapons today have what's known as a combination bolt, my M1A1 SOCOM comes to mind, last round the bolt will remain open and you can hit the release and it will slam home (i do mean slam with an M1A1!), loading a round, so it's called a combination bolt or as we call them a half bolt! Anyway, technically no you don't have to register an open bolt unless automatic, technically yes you can own without registering, like most of the NFA or 922r compliant (commonly called the 2nd arms control act, although really the 4th ,...34, 68,86 & 97), they're ambiguous!

@kalin6149 3 жыл бұрын

That sear is basically the same as a ppsh-41 open bolt machine gun. The only purpose of the trigger is to move the stub out of the way for the travel of the bolt! Thanks Chris!

@bsibs 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I just received an ATI GSG MP 40 for my birthday. Since I don't have several thousand dollars for an orginal, my wife bought me the ATI. Still scrathes my old weapon itch.

@MarksmanTV 7 жыл бұрын

bsibs yea I think they are actually good representations of the original. Similar in alot of ways. Congrats on getting an MP40!

@tb7771 6 жыл бұрын

Original MP-40 barrels were threaded primarily for BFA's for training purposes.

@dimaboz8012 5 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting theory, I haven't thought of that. My thinking was, that since MP40s were primarily made for tank crews, the thread was for portholes, just like on Russian BMPs. I recall, Germans were toying with the concept of periscopic gun adapter for shooting out of the hatch, but the adapters I've seen were primarily for Stg 44.

@811brian 7 жыл бұрын

registration is for squares.

@batjuan6670 5 жыл бұрын

I've ran close to 1500 rounds threw mine it's great fun love the gsg mp-40 only jammed once on me so far yeah it's not an exact replica and that is sad but none the less considering it's 650$ vs 20000$ or so for a mp-40 from ww2 I'm extremely happy with it I would recommend this if you don't have alot of money to spend on a real mp-40

@bcabmac 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to get one if these, but the exposed recoil spring just kinda kills it. It makes it look cheap or like a BB or airsoft gun. They should have at least blued the spring or telescoped it like the original. Damn, so close in appearance but falls just a bit short for the money.

@toddbazurto1423 4 жыл бұрын

I own the GSG MP-40. I haven't had the opportunity to fire it yet, but looking forward to doing so.

@dougwilliams44 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for "Taking Down" the actual MP-40, I was going to do a similar video. Having paid for a Class 3 MP, I know how stressful that would be for me! I've had the ATI/GSG version since they came out. I'd say they FTF/FTE LESS than the WW2 variant. -Cheers-!

@alecwilder9169 4 жыл бұрын

Regulas The aluminum bar performed 2 functions. First to aid in cooling the barrel and more importantly to prevent the barrel from being pulled out of a firing port when being fired, thus shooting into the vehicle.

@stephengoehring2846 6 жыл бұрын

Only Germans can make a weapon so close to the original yet make it completely non interchangeable. That's skill these may be cheap replicas but to make it look so close is a big win in my book . I bought one and I can wait to fire the one I ordered . Is the charging handle in the original removable

@chosenonewee-uuuwee-uuuwee6773 6 жыл бұрын

Exactly an inexpensive open bolt design worth 20,000 nowadays, compared to a current closed bolt design for 500$, please take my money.

@Del350K4 4 жыл бұрын

What an interesting and informative video - thank you for going into such detail.

@SuperVonKiller Жыл бұрын

Just picked one up!

@Medmann48 7 жыл бұрын

Our guns laws are ridiculous, it legal to have a bump fire stock turning your SKS into full automatic but not a swing out metal stock for your semi-automatic GSG MP40.

@Holret 3 жыл бұрын

would you rather be the other way?

@theragingcreeper9040 3 жыл бұрын

Wym? Its legal to sbr it.

@Kintepro 3 жыл бұрын

oof that didn't age well

@adriannarobeson4758 Жыл бұрын

I am planning on getting one a MP40 ,, I have a AR-15 & a KEL-TEC that shoots 9mm now add another to my collection a totally cool looking gun.

@adriannarobeson4758 11 ай бұрын

Update I have gotten my MP40. All I need is the SBR stamp from the Fed's ( ATF), for my folding stock which costs $200 and a background check , and all set I have gotten the sling for it , totally awesome I think my AR-15 will be jealous 😅🤣🤭 🇺🇲👍🏻

@davidcollis4758 7 жыл бұрын

Very interesting firearm. I wish having the folding stock was legal. Thank You for the interesting video.

@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 2 жыл бұрын

Is it..just fill a atf form 1. 4 weeks later you can install a folding stock..they sell them for it. Im gonna do that when I get mine

@codplayer308 6 жыл бұрын

They just got a non restricted status in Canada and our version comes with the stock can't wait to pick one of these up

@MrTomsmith123 7 жыл бұрын

Outstanding review. Very knowledgeable. My GSG MP40 should be in any day now!!

@MarksmanTV 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback! I hope you enjoy your GSG MP40!

@user-si9wz5dg2v 2 жыл бұрын

Превосходное изделие...это точно,. У меня отец воевал с немцами ...но я все равно обожаю эту оружию,...в нем что то карм есть,...

@walker2980 4 жыл бұрын

That is so freaking cool. I'm a big WW2 buff and I just wish I had the money to buy some old firearms. But they cost so stinkin much it's unreal

@edwardknox7506 4 жыл бұрын

buy a replica mp40 for the stock

@VR-ym8ys 3 жыл бұрын

That makes you a felon. Even owning both the gun and the stock, without even putting it on, is a felony, unless you get a tax stamp first.

@hook86 3 жыл бұрын

Lots of hate here but hell I think the GSG holds up great! Gives a lot of people a chance to have a great historic replica that they'd otherwise never be able to own

@Gunthusiest 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this comparison. I've been pretty set on buying the ATI but never realized just how much different it was from an original. Also now I know ahead of time how to take it apart to clean it

@tommygun6028 7 жыл бұрын

Great video MarksMan....

@MarksmanTV 7 жыл бұрын

I appreciate it - thanks for watching!

@siryeetus6226 2 жыл бұрын

Could you still put a stock on the GSG version? Would that be considered illegal to do?

@adriannarobeson4758 11 ай бұрын

Not as long you have the SBR STAMP , from the feds cost around $200 👍🏻🇺🇲 and a background check, then the folding stock is yours.

@globetrotter1121 6 жыл бұрын

those things on the front fold out, so can be hooked on a sandbag etc. Military vehicles have swivels where you can set it in, for more controlled fire.

@keithwhisman 7 жыл бұрын

I wonder if you can make a binary trigger for it and a folding pistol brace?

@Dirtkid98505 6 жыл бұрын

this

@kriegtrooper 6 жыл бұрын

I'm calling the Gestapo

@ahall1459 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid.... Just one criticism, keep the hand movements slow and allow for proper focusing of the subject. For example, Just as the object come into focus, you move it away...very tiring on the eye's to follow through all the movements...slow and deliberate would have made this for me, a excellent vid...thanks and keep up the good work.

@LesGitesTrepart 7 жыл бұрын

Very intersting review. My GSG 9mm isn't a real mp40 but is great fun

@user-vv1bd9dz6j 3 жыл бұрын

Превосходный обзор. Лайк! В России таких чудесных изделий даже на чердаках осталось немного... Excellent overview. Like! In Russia, there are not many such wonderful products even "in attics"...

@jimbash6384 Жыл бұрын

A stock can be added to the ati but it requires either the barrel to be lengthen or to register as an sbr.

@knottreel 4 жыл бұрын

More likely the differences such as mag sizes and charging handle differences were due to ATF requirements. We saw this with the Kahr semi reproduction of the Thompson 1928 where differences in tolerances and bolt design would make it difficult to interchange parts with the original full auto version.

@timmiller9666 6 жыл бұрын

Excellent video sir, very detailed!

@Ww2enthusiasts529 8 ай бұрын

Bakelite is not exactly the most toughest plastic if anything it was more on the brittle side, the reason the MP40s Bakelite was durable was because it was think, other things like the butter dish would snap and crumble, I know from experience lol

@alexsvigos2963 3 жыл бұрын

How much would the original WWII MP40 sell for?

@allentate3760 7 жыл бұрын

Very well done review. Do you know if the bakelite grips and forearm are interchangeable? There are some nice Bakelite repro grips out there which I'd like to use and replace the cheap plastic ones on the GSG

@MGB-learning 3 жыл бұрын

Great video and presentation.

@gnutzguy 5 жыл бұрын

The hammer will come up even when the lower is not connected, he may have had the safety on.

@Mr_Resz 4 жыл бұрын

Opens the box and checks the gun to see if it’s loaded. Like damn do they ship loaded guns lol

@mitchcornacchia968 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent review

@davebodah8517 6 жыл бұрын

Nice video. Dreaming about getting one.

@brudibrudi9237 5 жыл бұрын

They're selling almost the same version here in Germany, except for to folding Stock and the pushpin being a headless screw, also the muzzle looks little different.

@chickasawranger759 6 жыл бұрын

Well for the reenactors its great. They are cheaper to feed than the open bolts because of fire rates. Collectors yep get a real one. We carry a lot of originals in the field. It's a bad day when you loose a mag. These you can beat up who cares! The only design flaw or feature with the gsg is the charging handle can fall out in the field. Which happened to one of my pards. We had to share one between us. But other than that, blank or live fire mine has been reliable. ATI is working on a folding stock kit. So with a few mods and upgrades it will suffice.

@charlesboettger9506 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you - this was very helpful.

@annachrissy4874 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting!

@johndoee4511 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comparison

@sobe740 6 жыл бұрын

Great video it's a great gun the company I work for sells it love that it comes in 9mm

@dawsoncolby5487 6 жыл бұрын

Is there a replacement for the gsg mp40's plastic siding?

@stealthandy638 7 жыл бұрын

morning buddy . very interesting . old smg are a lots of fun . ATB you an yours

@MarksmanTV 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Andy!

@burakbakacak1707 6 жыл бұрын

stealth Andy .tr

@burakbakacak1707 6 жыл бұрын

@a.p.369 9 ай бұрын

What I wonder is that the sling ring is on the left side of the ww2 mp 40. Usually the ring was on the right side. Did the germans produced different versions?

@CCC303THIZZ 3 жыл бұрын

I just bought the gsg today And I can not lock the bolt It won’t go up into the locking mode It charges Any ideas? It’s brand new not a used one either

@noahsimmons4107 2 жыл бұрын

Nothing like a real mp40

@johanslammeat3499 7 жыл бұрын

what is the barrel thread size on the ATI? Is it a standard size or something crazy?

@Shankin_Taint 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing vid thanks so much!

@annachrissy4874 5 жыл бұрын

Great video

@Anglo-Saxon9 4 жыл бұрын

They had a bunch of ww2 reproductions at my local gun show. They all looked and felt like the real deal, the only issue is they were all 22's

@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the vodeo... totally gonna get one of these ati mp40s.. cant afford a 20k$ original they look close enough to me lol

@elvinator1047 Жыл бұрын

So the ATI is really a GSG German Sporting Guns, ATI only being the Importer and not the manufacturer, right?

@mitchcornacchia968 4 жыл бұрын

GREAT DEMO!

@crowsbridge 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, good review

@MarksmanTV 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@ScareCrow8ty3 7 жыл бұрын

I would love to have that gun

@1955porsche 7 жыл бұрын

2 questions,, can one add the folding stock from an original mp40 or another gsg mp40-22 to the gsg 9mm? can the front barrel muzzle "nut" from the original be put on the 9mm gsg mp40?...great channel u know your guns,,, gotta ask is gsg gonna make a mg34 or fg42?? wouldnt that be kool! i hav the mp44 n mp40 22s they make

@vincivedivicilextalionas4036 5 жыл бұрын

Fellow *hoosier* great video!

@MarksmanTV 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you and thanks for watching!!

@connorvaughn7968 7 жыл бұрын

I will always appreciate the originals over the re makes. EXCEPT for the new 7.62 STG44. That shit is fucking awesome. The only thing about them that pisses me off, is that the 7.62 version has fucking beech wood in place of the oak that was used on the grip and stock.

@aarond1622 5 жыл бұрын

Shopping time!

@bumpercoach 4 жыл бұрын

hmm... so the mp40 was the original "tupperware" gun?? bakelite is so named bcs of its initial use for cooking pot handles correct? is the replica a straight blowback action then since mass was in no way limited w/ the 8-lb heft?

@Mr00934 3 ай бұрын

today the atf lost banning braces or stocks for pistols like the mp40 from gsg. will they arrive in the usa now with the brace?

@101stGamerArmy 7 жыл бұрын

If I, somehow, put a rifle length barrel on and a stock would that be fine? I don't know how the NFA works, is the receiver "locked" to being certain things? Would i need to do paperwork or some shit if I, for some reason, wanted to put a rifle length barrel and stock on the gun?

@KingKairuku 2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to buy a functioning WWII MP40? Not for hunting, just home defense.

@Lisztomaniac1022 4 жыл бұрын

On the ww2 one I noticed the sling mount is on the left did you get it on the left they were traditionally on the right this is me just being very critical

@johnevely7662 6 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry But the historical Inaccuracy of the shortness of the charging slot with the charging handle kinda pisses me off maybe I'm missing.g something as why they did that?

@victorglaviano 4 жыл бұрын

Machine Pistol (MP), not a machine gun. A machine gun is either belt or drum fed, often called a crew-served weapon because the gunner normally has an "A gunner", the A gunner carries extra barrel, rounds and acts as a spotter when the gunner is in a fixed or defelaid (covered and concealed by a machine gun nest or a ridge) position. It will never be a SBR... It's a pistol!

@joeydubbs763 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was great bud.👍

@Mr00934 5 жыл бұрын

i want the stock. gsg should make that as an extra accesssory

@cavemanfromspace3038 5 жыл бұрын

THEY DO

@Mr00934 5 жыл бұрын

@@cavemanfromspace3038 u mean the fake ones for show only, right? i want the real thing

@cavemanfromspace3038 5 жыл бұрын

@@Mr00934 bro they offer the SBR kit

@Mr00934 5 жыл бұрын

@@cavemanfromspace3038 if it is a real sstock. cool. havent seen that. i have seen fake ones held on by magnets. funny. show me where

@cavemanfromspace3038 5 жыл бұрын

@@Mr00934 www.americantactical.us/5863/detail.html

@joshm3484 7 жыл бұрын

The cheap ABS looking plastic is a bit disappointing, but for the price I can't complain. Probably wouldn't take to much to replace it with aluminum either.

@sdivine13 4 жыл бұрын

It was originally plastic.

@John-ob7dh 9 ай бұрын

Yes it was plastic .So its close to the original weapon

@Bigcheese1334 2 жыл бұрын

Okay Ati is the importer not the manufacturer you know this because you titled the video "Gsg mp40" so why are you referring to it as such?

@frankmcgraw1824 7 жыл бұрын

Just subscribed great video wish i could have a real one ! yours looks great ! got a gsg coming !

@MarksmanTV 7 жыл бұрын

frank mcgraw thanks for watching and for subbing! I think you will really enjoy your GSG - it is a great representation of an original.

@frankmcgraw1824 7 жыл бұрын

Have wanted one since i was 7 yrs old when i watched my first ww2 movie i'm 55 now thought about the one in 22 lr but hated what was hanging off the front of the barrel i do have the gsg stg 44 & the mp 5 had no problems with either me & my 2 sons love them ! we can't wait to get the mp 40 !

@bluefeatherlopez7 3 ай бұрын

Awesome

@Fuck1em 3 жыл бұрын

Where buy?

@shock209996 4 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know why the gsg mags only hold 25 rounds instead of 32 since the mags have the same dimensions

@samsperformance4930 3 жыл бұрын

I have a question of you can modify the modern mp40 to fire like machine gun?

@derfid 5 жыл бұрын

I have the .22 lr version of the ATI. Could you do a video of the .22 lr vs the 9mm?

@Kukoricza 3 жыл бұрын

Hey there! A question, is the bakelite parts from an Original MP40 are fitting on the GSG one? If it does, Could you make a vid of that because I wish to change the plastic fore and pistol grips.

@noahsimmons4107 2 жыл бұрын

They are not interchangeable

@DerWaidmann_ 4 жыл бұрын

It was not that hard for ATI to make this correctly. The only change they had to make was the close bolt semi auto only. Every other cosmetic/external change is ridiculous. The only reason to own one of these is to have something as close as possible to the original.

@waynocook53 7 жыл бұрын

VERY cool!

@Cosmo_Stardust 2 жыл бұрын

The GSG MP40 is not machined, it's cast from pot metal, like any diecast toy. Some states in USA don't allow sales of pot metal guns, because sooner or later they will turn to dust and are dangerous. Kids this is how you make money, make a $5 product and sell it for $500. And yes I did buy and own a GSG MP40, but I know it will not last. That's why the original are worth a lot of money.