Poker Math Every Player Needs to Know

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GTOWizard

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Күн бұрын

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Poker Math Every Player Needs to Know:
0:00 Intro
2:20 Building Intuition
4:53 Risk & Reward
6:45 Pot Odds
9:52 Value-To-Bluff Ratio
11:21 Alpha
13:35 MDF
14:51 Putting It All Together
18:15 GTO Wizard Example
21:43 Calculating Edges
27:40 Summary
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@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 5 ай бұрын
Did you learn something new? What would you like to see Tombos21 cover next?
@stevefillier6951
@stevefillier6951 5 ай бұрын
Yes! I learned I need more gin in my tonic 👍
@postmur625
@postmur625 5 ай бұрын
Tombos21 is the best coach))) can he make please video about how deadmoney impact in cash game, for example rush cash cash drops (10bb deadmoney), maybe ante games etc
@zeouhu7345
@zeouhu7345 5 ай бұрын
Quantum Physics
@luizfelipeap
@luizfelipeap 5 ай бұрын
Loved it, I'm not sure if already has a video converting this, but I would like to know if I close my eyes and always play GTO would I be profitable in a field that plays way off the GTO, let's supose I play in a field that never bluffs, and I play GTO calling the MDF will I be profitable in the long run?
@modeob88
@modeob88 5 ай бұрын
range advantage, nut adventage and that kind of stuff
@AtGame7
@AtGame7 4 ай бұрын
For the first question I need more information? Am I holding Kings? If I'm holding Kings the correct answer is the flop will contain an Ace 100% of the time. Fact.
@schwarzer0se463
@schwarzer0se463 2 ай бұрын
Exactly my thought 😂
@If6wasnine
@If6wasnine 2 ай бұрын
Then shove pre flop
@mikecheckov5365
@mikecheckov5365 Ай бұрын
@@If6wasnine when shoving all in preflop with kings the caller will have aces 125% of the time. fact.
@MrCEO-1
@MrCEO-1 Ай бұрын
Yah theres no math to truth
@kelvinlee7550
@kelvinlee7550 5 ай бұрын
This is a comprehensive video on the science behind poker. Mastering both science and art is what makes any poker player greater than having only one, good job
@nicolasspray
@nicolasspray 5 ай бұрын
poker is not an art
@sov3273
@sov3273 4 ай бұрын
it is. even if what a pure gto/math game, it's still art imo. the hard science and statistics is working in tandem with the flawed human element@@nicolasspray
@gillesabraham2257
@gillesabraham2257 4 ай бұрын
Man thanks a lot for this ! this is very good material
@fisher00769
@fisher00769 5 ай бұрын
>start watching the video as a beginner >10 seconds in: "what do these 5 things I've never heard about have in common" >bruh 💀
@elias60
@elias60 5 ай бұрын
Like man I’m just trying to get better at poker not study theory 😭
@CasualSloth
@CasualSloth 11 күн бұрын
@@elias60well that’s how you get better like
@elias60
@elias60 11 күн бұрын
@@CasualSloth I’ve realized that lol
@CasualSloth
@CasualSloth 11 күн бұрын
@@elias60 yeah it’s a big can of worms mate haha
@raijin5280
@raijin5280 5 ай бұрын
Do you have a longer video on how to apply the math to your strategy? Kind of how you touched on the BB changing strategy based on value-to-bluff ratio at 11:06
@user-wg7hf6gk6i
@user-wg7hf6gk6i 2 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing your experience and knowledge about trading.
@DayOfVictory007
@DayOfVictory007 5 ай бұрын
Err in short, Great breakdowns! Subbed.
@wevertonsoaresdossantos1405
@wevertonsoaresdossantos1405 5 ай бұрын
Nice video !
@Oque.Nos.Somoss
@Oque.Nos.Somoss 5 ай бұрын
Amazing content guys! Thank you!
@josyvan7680
@josyvan7680 Ай бұрын
I love how in 21:28 "% of hero calling after raise" just ties in perfectly with you guys' True MDF video lol where we defend more than MDF suggests vs a raise suddenly the pieces of the puzzle fall into place ✅
@rileygibbs3128
@rileygibbs3128 5 ай бұрын
I must be the first person watching this video! I should go play poker with all this run good.
@garnetbelik4190
@garnetbelik4190 4 ай бұрын
A really great video tutorial
@x78963xx
@x78963xx 5 ай бұрын
i need more dozes of these Math. love it!!
@lucasdesiqueira6122
@lucasdesiqueira6122 5 ай бұрын
Excelent video
@AlessandroOrlandi83
@AlessandroOrlandi83 4 ай бұрын
Such an interesting video.
@parabellumCH
@parabellumCH 5 ай бұрын
thank u
@nawhead
@nawhead 4 ай бұрын
I really love the art style in this!
@elias60
@elias60 5 ай бұрын
I was under the impression this would be for people (like myself) who struggle with math lol
@jeffe2267
@jeffe2267 4 ай бұрын
are you implying that this math is difficult? honest question.
@elias60
@elias60 4 ай бұрын
@@jeffe2267 for me it is yes I’m dyslexic
@orange_caesar
@orange_caesar 5 ай бұрын
Hello GTO Wizard! Is there a way to compute for MDF without getting the alpha? For the example in 14:47 I tried doing 6.5 / 6.5 + 11.5 = 36% which isn’t the 43% of 1-alpha Not sure if I’m understanding this correctly.. Thank you in advance! And love the videos. Cheers!
@jambojack
@jambojack 5 ай бұрын
Yes, you can do 5 (size of pot before villian bets) divided by 11.5 (size of pot after villian bets). But I think MDF is only useful to ensure you don't start hugely over folding over a number of hands, and not a good way to decide whether to call or not in a particular situation.
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 5 ай бұрын
You can calculate MDF directly for the initial bet using this formula: MDF = pot / (bet + pot) -> 5 / (6.5 + 5) = 43% = MDF Facing a raise, like in example 17:56 you have to account for dead money in the pot. In this case the starting pot is (5 + 2.5) = 7.5 because SB already bet 2.5 and that belongs to the pot after we raise, and the Bet (Raise) is 12.5. MDF = pot / (bet + pot) -> 7.5 / (7.5 + 12.5) = 37.5% Or more succinctly: MDF = Reward / (Risk + Reward) I recommend calculating Alpha first rather than deriving MDF directly, and understanding the basics of risk and reward make it easier to learn EV and develop an intuitive understanding of what you're risking vs what you're getting. Hope that helps! You can check out our blog for more details: Read more: blog.gtowizard.com/mdf-alpha/
@mcc1200
@mcc1200 5 ай бұрын
Hi @GTOWizard! Excuse me but I am very confused in the example @19:04. I don t understand why OTF, BB checks before SB, and SB checks behind. Why does BB is first to speak? Anyway great content, love the simple way you put it. Thanks
@mcc1200
@mcc1200 5 ай бұрын
found it :)) its a heads-up sim
@ClockBain-ii4rh
@ClockBain-ii4rh 5 ай бұрын
I once had this on 888 poker. BB vs SB, I was the BB. after the flop the software decided it was my turn instead of the SB. I was completely flabbergasted. Eventually emailed support and told them I want my buy in back or i post it on 2+2. They gave back my buy in and a little extra, lol
@matheusstotti
@matheusstotti 5 ай бұрын
Any tips off contents that I can practice these maths concepts more deeply?
@dylanrobbins1245
@dylanrobbins1245 4 ай бұрын
Do them in your head, make the numbers up and practice. While playing, calculate on every street, especially when you're NOT in the hand.
@mur_do
@mur_do 2 ай бұрын
Saben donde puedo tener esta información en español?
@sentimenta1664
@sentimenta1664 5 ай бұрын
cool video and all but i think i'll stick to flopping royal flushes every hand
@lucianozaffaina9853
@lucianozaffaina9853 5 ай бұрын
Best poker books? I want to improve at heads up play, and single table tournaments. I would really appreciate if someone could give me a short list
@simonep3443
@simonep3443 Ай бұрын
They are almost all outdated in my opinion. You will improve more watching all the videos by GTOwiz and playing with the free version that reading an old book.
@lucabossi7253
@lucabossi7253 4 ай бұрын
It is possible make alla this maths and calculation multitabling on 6 max cash game or zoom tables? I don't think so. There must exist a shortcut or easier way to do this
@doktordiklegz
@doktordiklegz 2 ай бұрын
Nah you just do all your math and decision making away from the table, so when you are multi-tabling you're already studied on your position. Like chess.
@austinmurphy8932
@austinmurphy8932 Ай бұрын
all poker math = 25%. that's what I learned.
@TFFYoutube
@TFFYoutube 5 ай бұрын
Hi can someone tell me why do we count our chips in pot odds ? Like in 16:40, vilain asks us to put 10 chips on a pot of 20 (10 chips in the pot + vilain bet), how do we end up with a calculation of 10 / 30 = 1/3 ? Why isn't it 10 / 20 = 1/2 ? Thanks a lot
@hungjon
@hungjon 5 ай бұрын
You can also count the break even. If you lose ten and gain 20, in a 1/3 odds scenario you would lose ten twice and win 20 once in three runs of the hand, resulting in ev 0
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 5 ай бұрын
Check out 2:27 for an intuitive explanation. The basic idea is that you want to win your call back to at least break even. So if you win 1/3 of the new pot, you do just that.
@JakGruen
@JakGruen 2 ай бұрын
Please help, I'm crazy confused by the calculations at about 25:38 How is EV Bluff Raise = Edge (Risk+Reward)? Wouldn't that mean that the more I risk, the better my EV? So if I raise to 1000 pots, it's EV Bluff Raise = 100.2 pots? I can't make sense out of it. It seems way more profitable to just call, because I put less risk into the same amount of possible profit. So what's off with my thinking here? Where am I going wrong with my logic?
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard Ай бұрын
They can only fold a maximum of 100% of their range, so in practice your "edge" caps out. You can't have a 10% edge while risking 1000x pot, since that would likely require them folding more than 100% of the time.
@hectorlopez4075
@hectorlopez4075 2 ай бұрын
Here I was just expecting a 4X, 2x outs calculation vid and got a intro to stats class.
@Dmanz67
@Dmanz67 10 күн бұрын
How does knights move?
@omqbrown9041
@omqbrown9041 5 ай бұрын
Money is not meant to control people, rather it is meant to be put to work producing more money for you. You cannot build wealth without putting money in its rightful place.
@DirusSC
@DirusSC 5 ай бұрын
I have a problem with Method 2: The Easy Way at 25:38. Would increasing the raise to 4x initial pot increase the EV if we assume no influence on the edge to EV = 10 % (4 + 2) = 0.6? At the same time Method 1: The Hard Way at 24:47 calculates EV = 70 % (2) - 30 % (4) = 0.2. The two methods seem to give different answers. Am I doing the math wrong?
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 5 ай бұрын
You're close. Alpha of a 4x raise is 66.6%. Retaining the 10% edge means they fold 76.6%, not 70%. Hard way: 76.6% (2) - 23.4% (4) = 0.6 Easy way: 10%(2 + 4) = 0.6
@shrankai7285
@shrankai7285 5 ай бұрын
18:10 with a 33% pot odds, and a 37.5% defending percentage, how does that work? Does that mean that 37.5% of SB's hands have a 1/3 chance of winning against BB's raise? Do you start calling once you reach the 33% win chance with your hand, or do you call with worse hands to protect against BB's bluffs?
@jambojack
@jambojack 5 ай бұрын
This is an interesting question, and my sense is that what really matters for the caller are the pot odds. Once villian bets, the only thing that determines whether we can make a profitable call or not is whether our hand is good 33% of the time or more. I believe MDF is not a particularly useful concept in practice.
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 5 ай бұрын
Great question. Pot odds tells you how often your hand needs to WIN to break even, whereas MDF tells you how WIDE you need to defend to prevent your opponent from overbluffing. So if they're balanced, you'd call 37.5% of your range, and all of those hands would have minimum 33.3% equity facing the raise. However, it may not always be possible to meet MDF. For example, if villain is underbluffing, you would need to start calling unprofitable hands to meet MDF, which is a bad idea. So Pot Odds takes priority. It's ok to defend less than MDF if your opponent is underbluffing.
@virtualjoker9036
@virtualjoker9036 Ай бұрын
Teach me having pk KK 23bb , raise and then get shoved on, I have to call and I'm up against a donk a4 rags and he hits the ace and now I have 3 bigs left, quit or just keep rebuying
@naesone2653
@naesone2653 Ай бұрын
At 25:42 why is the reward suddenly 1 for calling and not 2 ?
@MajorBaker710
@MajorBaker710 4 ай бұрын
Im confused about the Ace high flop 4:35. How is it not a even 1/13 like all other cards? Is it because an ace out ranks all other cards thus discounting any sub ace high board? (AKx vs Kxx)
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 4 ай бұрын
Yes, each card is equally likely but if you're filtering by the highest card on the flop the math changes
@schlauLern
@schlauLern Ай бұрын
Very nice video! Thank you. I watched it just now so not sure if the question has already come up but I was wondering about the 10% over-bluffing and over-folding. Why is it additive? I would have intuitively thought that if the bluff frequency is 33.3% and they are bluffing 10% too much, they are actually bluffing 33.3 % * 1.1 = 36.63 % and NOT 43.3 %. But maybe this is more clear if you get the numbers out from the data base? Can you maybe share the discussion on 2+2?
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard Ай бұрын
You can define percentage changes as a relative (33% * 1.1) or absolute (33% + 10%). Both are valid, and if you wanted to define an equation using a relative input you could. I chose to use absolute differences because it made the math cleaner. Here is the 2+2 thread: forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15/poker-theory-amp-gto/theory-question-technical-players-1829120
@paataa5886
@paataa5886 4 ай бұрын
How do you bet an amount on the flop to get stacks in on the river? I remember seeing a simple formula before but I can’t remember it.
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 4 ай бұрын
You're referring to the geometric bet size, formula here: blog.gtowizard.com/pot-geometry/
@kylebennett4434
@kylebennett4434 5 ай бұрын
Can someone explain to me the flopping an ace bit? I don't understand how flopping an ace would be so much more likely than flopping a 6 or jack. It just seems like simple math that any card is just as likely as any other
@benjaminbereznak8588
@benjaminbereznak8588 5 ай бұрын
The Ace bit is saying the odds are over 20% that an Ace would be the highest card post flop. It is just as likely as flopping a 6 or jack, but since an Ace would be the highest card when it shows up, it has the highest probability of being the high card post flop if that makes sense.
@mad1337nes
@mad1337nes 5 ай бұрын
It's a slightly misleading chart, stating what % that will be the high card on the board....but that number looks correct for A high, since it will always be the highest card (all the others should have a ~21.7% chance to appear on a flop too). The more interesting thing is that the percentage drops to (assuming the random 2p2 thread I found these numbers in is actually right) 16.88% when you have an single A in your hand (known card). So depending on the game stakes/ effective stacks, it might be more profitable to fold all your Ax hands to discourage flops (or better yet, opening some much larger bb amount to take it down without seeing a flop). It's actually a very interesting proposition, as the above mentioned play of winning preflop comes into factor. Then the reality vs probability factors that players are more likely to take flops/defend with Ax holdings. Looks profitable on paper, but closer or even losing in practice.
@kezman82a
@kezman82a 5 ай бұрын
A23, A89 , AKQ OR 222, 234, 235. Do you see it now? If you got a deck of cards at home.. deal some flops and see how often its 5 high board and how often its A high board.
@kylebennett4434
@kylebennett4434 5 ай бұрын
Thanks y'all, makes more sense now. I got a bit confused why he was talking about the % chance an Ace hits on the flop and then showed a chart of the chances of an X high flop. Those are the same thing but only for the Ace, so trying to apply that logic generally threw me off. Appreciate the comments!
@LectiidePokerRo
@LectiidePokerRo 5 ай бұрын
@kylebennett4434: Your intuition is correct. The percentage is wrong as it looks at A high flops rather than chances of flop containing an A. Since A high flops doesn't take into account cases where 2 or 3 Aces show up, as well as A + pair, the percentage on screen is actually smaller. The correct one is ~23.5% and it's the same for any card in the deck, as you rightly pointed out. It can be calculated as 4/52+4/51+4/50 (assuming no hole cards).
@lvzee
@lvzee 5 ай бұрын
Perhaps it is a technical quibble but if someone overfolds or over bluffs by 10% their frequency doesn’t go from 33% to 43% but to 36.3%. 10% of 33%. Imagine a limit game where the river bet is 10% of pot. The bettor should bluff about 8% of the time. If he underbluffs by 10% he only bluffs 7% not the impossible negative 2%
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 5 ай бұрын
You can define the input over-bluffing or overfolding proportionally instead, but the resulting output equation isn't as clean.
@wolfcake34
@wolfcake34 4 ай бұрын
Bit confused… you showed the chance of an ace being high card, not an ace being shown on the flop. Otherwise the odds would be same across all cards
@ryanpark1219
@ryanpark1219 2 ай бұрын
ace being high card is the same as an ace being shown since ace is the highest card
@tommymeister9543
@tommymeister9543 5 ай бұрын
@GTOWizard can you tell me where i can get those cool images from this video)
@BenjaminK18335
@BenjaminK18335 5 ай бұрын
I bet is IA
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 5 ай бұрын
These were generated with DALLE 3, and some editing from our Graphic team. Glad you liked them! Feel free to reach out to our discord server to get the pics.
@LinusK500
@LinusK500 3 күн бұрын
It seems like the way you're calculating MDF is wrong. If you know your opponent will sometimes give up, when he reaches the river without a made hand, and he sometimes gets to the river with a made hand, then that ratio is the one you need to be calculating, not how often the opponent thinks you will fold.
@Alexandertygreat
@Alexandertygreat 5 ай бұрын
I shared this exact same theory of raising over calling in these exact same spots back when i was purely a pro poker player in 2009 and all the other pros at the time thought i was insane and just plain wrong. Didnt stop me from using it and crushing though. Especially in mtts, i made every online major Final table on every major site and won a ton of MTTs
@mr.annoying9453
@mr.annoying9453 5 ай бұрын
how much money have you made in your career if you dont mind me asking? just curious
@Alexandertygreat
@Alexandertygreat 5 ай бұрын
@@mr.annoying9453 hard to have exact amount, but i played professionally from 2006-2010, both cash and MTTs. Between 1.5 n 1.7 mil USD profit. Quit in 2011, didnt play again til sept of last year. Made every major online ft in every major MTT yearly on pp, UB, FT and stars. Best placing for 4th twice. Had couple 6figure scores live including 2 wins. Won alot of online mtts, crushed 6max NLHE on stars and ft from 2007-2009 2-4- 5/10 mainly, with occasional shot at 25/50 n 50/100. Crushed 10/20 thru 50/100 at the commerce mainly and live at the bike and would play wynn and bellagio couple weekends a month and during the series. Quit in 2010 after breaking up with my gf and moved back to Canada. She was a pro on fulltilt. Prob tmi lol i quit due to burn out as well and never enjoyed being in casinos, so toxic and depressing.
@mike8771ify
@mike8771ify 5 ай бұрын
Lmao people like this why did you stop playing if you were so good
@barygol
@barygol 4 ай бұрын
And now he is commenting on KZfaq instead of living it up
@Alexandertygreat
@Alexandertygreat 4 ай бұрын
@@barygol lol who said i wasnt "living it up" there is life after poker. Just a game i was better then most at, i moved on to other things and guess what im still better then most.
@marceloramin3673
@marceloramin3673 5 ай бұрын
good
@alexanderkornyukhin7241
@alexanderkornyukhin7241 5 ай бұрын
Why in GTO Wizard Example BB acts before SB? I am very confused with that tbh
@alexanderkornyukhin7241
@alexanderkornyukhin7241 5 ай бұрын
Oh, just realised it is a heads up sim :D
@silencedogood711
@silencedogood711 5 ай бұрын
​@@alexanderkornyukhin7241if you get confused by that just think "dealer acts last"
@gallagherk11
@gallagherk11 2 ай бұрын
Is there any good intuition for why MDF > Bluff %? For example, if villain makes a pot-sized bet on the river, they should be bluffing 33% of the time but MDF says we should defend at least 50% of the time, which means we should be defending against a portion of their value bets. What's a good way to think about why that is?
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 2 ай бұрын
That's a fun question. The intuition is that when you bluff, you are risking your bet to win the pot. But when you're calling a bet, you risk your call to win their bet and the pot. For that reason, MDF < Pot odds for all bet sizes less than the golden ratio.
@gallagherk11
@gallagherk11 2 ай бұрын
That makes sense, thank you!
@DystopianMonkeyMan
@DystopianMonkeyMan 29 күн бұрын
Isn't the probability to get at least one ace on the flop 23.5% (not 21.7%). (4/52) + (4/51) + (4/50) = 0,23535... If you don't know your hole cards that is. Why do I get a different answer if calculate it as: (all possible flops - flops with out an ace = flops with ace : all possible flops) which is the 21.7%?
@justsomeguy1671
@justsomeguy1671 5 күн бұрын
8:09 i got 9.1 for some reason not 8.1 but ill double check that.
@RobertoMacedaPanta
@RobertoMacedaPanta 22 күн бұрын
I got the doubt, if the probability of seeing an Ace on the flop is 21.7% is the same for a 2 or a 3 right?
@reisr4171
@reisr4171 14 күн бұрын
Yes. The probably of one or more A on flop is the same as any other card (doesn’t matter which one you pick) . Unsure why they used Ace high flops as it’s confusing. It’s always 21.7%.
@akantorman1
@akantorman1 5 ай бұрын
4:45 well… yes… but… no… Usually you‘d do these calculations assuming you have an Ace already in your hand, otherwise why would you hope for an ace on the flop? If you’re holding an ace that would be a massively losing bet. If that‘s just a bet between two spectators I don‘t really get the point of this example already but yes ofc then the math checks out
@conorkleitz6837
@conorkleitz6837 5 ай бұрын
no longer providing us with the power point file!??
@toppace
@toppace 3 ай бұрын
I learned implied odds was something else.
@emkrisp11
@emkrisp11 5 ай бұрын
Im confused when you say 1 minus 62.6% is 37%. Can you explain?
@soghotze
@soghotze 4 ай бұрын
1 = 100% obviously. So it is 37,4% actually
@loco4dogg
@loco4dogg 3 ай бұрын
Liking the content so far except for one thing. Math is funny in that there are many ways to get to the same conclusion or at least many ways to wrap your brain around it. The graphics need some work though, even on my 27 inch screen the smaller text is difficult to read. It can all be better the smaller stuff I left guessing is that 57% or 64%.
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@modeob88
@modeob88 5 ай бұрын
The image on the presentation are too good, some IA there :D
@sky_rokit
@sky_rokit 5 ай бұрын
Intelligence Artificial
@jynx619
@jynx619 5 ай бұрын
He is most probably french - it would stand for Intelligence Artificielle
@MrVeenrok
@MrVeenrok 5 ай бұрын
Hello guys! I didnt understand Alpha concept. If we bet 6,5 in 5 pot. We risk to lose 6,5(bet) + 2(already in pot) = 8,5 And if we win we get only 3bb, because 2 in the bank is ours What is wrong with this logic?
@schalke0494
@schalke0494 5 ай бұрын
The logic is wrong because we dont care what we already invested. We only see the pot now and what we win. So we win 5 and invest 6.5. 6.5/6.5+5= 57% it needs to work. This is the "sunk cost fallacy" you fall into.
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 5 ай бұрын
Compare to giving up with a bluff. You still lose that 2bb that you put into the pot earlier. So, if the river decision is to bluff or give up, the money you put in earlier is a sunk cost and doesn't count towards your risk.
@pedroarthurdutrahuning
@pedroarthurdutrahuning 12 күн бұрын
Bro this is so confusing 😢. I'm gonna watch one more time
@karthage3637
@karthage3637 4 ай бұрын
The comment of other player about how holding an A reduce the probability to see this flop make me think that if you want learn to play you Ax well you should first look at Kxx board (most probable board you will see holding an A)
@rvoykin
@rvoykin Ай бұрын
Did anyone else wish they only had to listen to this one time to understand it lol has a total beginner it’s not so common sense but I know a couple weeks it’ll be more and more
@jtcapperella3938
@jtcapperella3938 5 ай бұрын
4:42 is confusing me. I must be missing something. How does an Ace come on the flop 21.7% of the time?
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 5 ай бұрын
Probability of flopping an Ace = 1 - probability of NOT flopping an Ace =1 - (48/52 * 47/51 * 46/50) = 21.7%
@jimz1024
@jimz1024 24 күн бұрын
about 57% of the time, it works every time
@V1s10n0fl0v3
@V1s10n0fl0v3 5 ай бұрын
No hand is safe hand, every hand is winnable hand, and nothing beats luck. Chip count can dictate how you play each hand.
@FirstLast-zy6wv
@FirstLast-zy6wv 4 күн бұрын
Science and the tools produced by science can help those who are not chosen to feel for a while as if they are.
@Chavyyy
@Chavyyy Ай бұрын
first question regarding profitable bet or not is wrong!!!!! odds of flopping ace is not 21%
@coryaw95
@coryaw95 4 ай бұрын
Could someone explain exactly how aces have a higher chance to land on the flop? All cards should be equally statistically weighted, so how in the hell can Ace flop 21% while other cards flop with less than 10%?
@berdyderg900
@berdyderg900 4 ай бұрын
Ace high flop not chance of an ace appearing. Ace is obviously the highest card so if it appears, it will be an ace high flop regardless of the other two cards. A 4 is just as likely to flop as an ace though.
@user-ce9bc5xb2u
@user-ce9bc5xb2u 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. but idk what calculation you used to get a 21% chance of flopping an ace!? That would mean close to 1 in 5 cards in the deck are aces. I get an average of 8.5% chance roughly.. assuming there are none in your hand; 4/50, 4/49, 4/48 = 8.0, 8.1, 8.3 % for each card on the flop respectively.
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 5 ай бұрын
There are two problems with your approach: Problem 1) You are multiplying OR logic (1st card Ace OR 2nd card Ace OR 3rd card Ace). Problem 2) You are calculating the probability of EXACTLY one Ace, rather than AT LEAST one Ace. **My calculation assumes no information about your hole cards, so drawing from a fresh deck** Convert this from OR logic to AND logic to calculate it correctly: P(At least one Ace) = 1 - P(No Ace) P(At least one Ace) = 1 - (1st card not Ace AND 2nd card not Ace AND 3rd card not Ace). P(At least one Ace) = 1 - (48/52 * 47/51 * 46/50) = 21.7% Or alternatively, the much cleaner solution using combinatorics: Total ways to choose an Ace on the flop = (52 choose 3) - (48 choose 3) Total flops = (52 choose 3) Probability of a at least one ace = [(52 choose 3) - (48 choose 3)] / (52 choose 3) = 21.7% - Here’s the same calculation assuming we hold two non-ace cards: 1 - (46/50 * 45/49 * 44/48) = 22.6% ((50 choose 3)-(46 choose 3))/(50 choose 3) = 22.6% Hope that helps!
@justinbyrge8997
@justinbyrge8997 Ай бұрын
🤔 🙋 Just so you know, the probability of seeing at least 1 ace on the flop is 21% only if you haven't seen your hand. And it can be expressed like this: 1 - ((4 C 0 * 48 C 3) / (52 C 3)) Once you're dealt a hand though, you've seen 2 cards and now you have to update your information. Assuming you don't have an ace in hand then the probability is expressed like this: 1 - ((4 C 0 * 46 C 3) / (50 C 3)), which is 22.55%. Small difference but I like math. Have a great day. Okay bye. 😁
@taylorwoods8001
@taylorwoods8001 4 ай бұрын
So you’re getting 3:1 on a call, and you decide you need to be 25% favorite to “break even”. so what you’re telling me is you’re a break even player therefore you’re not winning in the long run if you think like this.
@joshuapatrick682
@joshuapatrick682 5 ай бұрын
Why would I hit like or subscribe before Ive seen the video?
@jakestern298
@jakestern298 13 күн бұрын
If this is 101, i need 100
@MrNicePotato
@MrNicePotato 5 ай бұрын
I just don’t get why people often start with x:1 as an odds. The bets are rarely given in a simple ratio anyway. I just skip that step.
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 5 ай бұрын
Odds tend to be more useful in live settings.
@Passion-tv4mx
@Passion-tv4mx 4 ай бұрын
2hard
@mr8966
@mr8966 5 ай бұрын
How can you flop an ace 20% of the time when aces are 1/13th or 7.7%
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 5 ай бұрын
There are three cards on the flop, not one. Probability of flopping an Ace = 1 - probability of NOT flopping an Ace =1 - (48/52 * 47/51 * 46/50) = 21.7%
@realchicagophill
@realchicagophill 5 ай бұрын
My lord! If you aren’t a tournament player, I’ll eat a deck of cards. Long division with decimals and remainders on the fly? That’s why tournament players take 20 minutes for each hand they play?
@stefkleij3891
@stefkleij3891 4 ай бұрын
8min in and i’m lost on the next one
@stefenleung
@stefenleung 4 ай бұрын
wait. would human being really calculate 6.5/(6.5+5) on the table?
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 4 ай бұрын
A good player would recognize that the risk is just slightly bigger than the reward, and would know that they need their opponent to fold just over half the time for this bluff to be profitable.
@stefenleung
@stefenleung 3 ай бұрын
you can just say no.@@GTOWizard
@fragslap5229
@fragslap5229 5 ай бұрын
So the UKTIMATE question comes down to how MUCH did all this "knowledge" INCREASE the PERFORMANCE of a REAL poker player.
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard 5 ай бұрын
Ask the opposite question. How many professional players do you know who don't understand basic poker math?
@fragslap5229
@fragslap5229 5 ай бұрын
@@GTOWizard I'd be willing to bet that ANY "professional" poker player could pass an exam on the basic probability of poker hands and how they relate to successful play..
@attackhelicopteridentifier7343
@attackhelicopteridentifier7343 2 ай бұрын
All this math assumes your opponent is playing this way. If they’re just firing random bluffs with random bets it doesn’t work
@davidrebocho2093
@davidrebocho2093 4 ай бұрын
The beginning of your video is all black, dark nothing going on
@pwnd785
@pwnd785 5 ай бұрын
Why does gto wizard not consider a 222 flop to be 2 high
@modeob88
@modeob88 5 ай бұрын
bcs is it.
@torpeda8766
@torpeda8766 5 ай бұрын
If you and your opponent is going to flop and nobody has a 2, the first card is 2 with 4/48, second 2 is 3/47, third is 2/46. If we multiply it, it is roughly 1 in 20000 that all three cards are going to be 2. However, if it is 6 or 8 player table, the probability of folded players having 2 is significant, so it is even less common. It's almost 0% for this to happen
@modeob88
@modeob88 5 ай бұрын
@@torpeda8766 that almost 0% happens all fucking days.
@pwnd785
@pwnd785 5 ай бұрын
@@modeob88 what he’s saying is it’s so low it gets rounded down to zero
@weare2iq376
@weare2iq376 5 ай бұрын
@@torpeda8766 This is just incorrect there could be a 20 handed table, and the odds the flop comes out as 222 is exactly the same as if the table is heads up. The reason being that we don't care about the cards we don't know about, and we only know about our hole cards. So it would work out as 4/50 * 3/49 * 2/48 which works out as 1/4900. Or in your example where you somehow know your opponent's hole cards it would be 1/4324...
@ResonNL
@ResonNL 8 күн бұрын
I always hated the math side of poker cause its really boring. To be honest, I have never known any of this stuf but I've been a winning poker player for over 20 years.
@Mstech20047
@Mstech20047 5 ай бұрын
How to play poker I mean I don't know anything about card games
@rosenpelovski3998
@rosenpelovski3998 5 ай бұрын
umm no
@bigcountry503
@bigcountry503 4 ай бұрын
Bro. 4:1 is 25% so your analysis of Ace on the flop is wrong.
@Cross40Productions
@Cross40Productions 3 ай бұрын
Odds and fractions are not the same… with fractions, one of the represented numbers is the total amount… with odds both numbers represented get added together for the total amount… he’s not wrong, and if you need further proof, google this exact phrase… “4:1 odds as a percentage”
@vicosam6055
@vicosam6055 4 ай бұрын
YOU SHOULD USE EASIER NUMBER TO YOUR YOU TUBE!!!
@ccualumni
@ccualumni 2 ай бұрын
Dude lost me when he showed a chart that shows that an Ace flops more often than any other card in the deck. Over time, all cards have an equal chance of being on the floor. An Ace will not show up more often than a different card.
@GTOWizard
@GTOWizard Ай бұрын
Yes, all cards are equally likely. However that chart displays the probabilities of the TOP card on the flop. Since there are 3 board cars, Ace high flops are obviously more common than 2-high flops.
@ccualumni
@ccualumni Ай бұрын
@@GTOWizard thank you for the clarification.
@ynwa73
@ynwa73 17 күн бұрын
Always remember 70% of poker is luck
@pedroarthurdutrahuning
@pedroarthurdutrahuning 12 күн бұрын
Lmao where did you get this information
@joeblunt6126
@joeblunt6126 2 ай бұрын
awful. Why use 2.7 and 5.4 when you could have used 2 and 1?
@DKBlair
@DKBlair 4 ай бұрын
No disrespect to GTO Wizard but the odds of flopping an Ace is closer to 23.5% 4/52 + 4/51 + 4/50 = 0.235354…
@PGproductionsHD
@PGproductionsHD 4 ай бұрын
Good video but not interactive enough. Next time place some family guy or subway surfers on the side to keep the audience engaged.
@peterhook2258
@peterhook2258 5 ай бұрын
the entire poker world needs to focus on an ai or auto game that deals the cards random or almost random and is reviewable after the fact. the entire process front to back needs to have no humans at all.except the players...smart contract crypto can do this, its still not done...ridiculous this is not done yet. imo the industry "giants" pay the developers to not make this...ohhhh its soooo hard. give me a break. poker world is full of ...well..the naive.
@wysonlegion5398
@wysonlegion5398 5 ай бұрын
What would be the point of smart contract poker? I could program it, but what’s the reason? Wouldn’t it be slow as shit?
@karthage3637
@karthage3637 4 ай бұрын
Coin poker do it no ?
@peterhook2258
@peterhook2258 4 ай бұрын
the point sir, is that poker players know that if you involve a central human authority there is always the danger of "knowing the deal" or "seeing the hole cards" always always and also collusion takes meeting at the same table or flooding the tables to by chance get together however live poker prevents some of that by the floor man sitting players (players do not decide which table they sit at). also anonymous player sitting prevents player tracking and heads up displays. you will see white papers come out professing crypto poker that does all this, and they never come to fruition...why? not enough money in it...for the house, for employees or for collusion. peace. A program that autodeals can be random enough, there are proven deal methods already in cryptoworld but and always always always...there is a human central authority? why? why no auto front to back..why why why. a smart coin and smart platform on the blockchain could do allllllll this with a human "manager" never lifting a finger and crypto knowledge already has beaten "hacking the blockchain" so...put auto poker on the blockchain with zero human interaction. have the table rake fuel the growth of the coin. have the smart contract deal the cards and the players engage with no human manager, it will be the most lucrative coin and poker "room" the entire history of humanity has ever seen. mark my words Software that is updatable or manageable by humans , and there will always be cheating...why? one word ..money. why will it be the best coin and smartcoin in the world...one word...money money money. if anyone knows crypto programmers let them know. finally we will have a fair online poker choice and an investment we will all make money from. Peace. Governments and Casinos will have a fit for sure. blockchain poker was headed in that direction..look them up...bye bye why? because it was headed there. they are probably remaking blockchain poker in exactly the way I am sayin and nobody in the world will ever see the riches this platform will produce..nobody knows the value of this except people who know both worlds..poker and crypto. this will be the most valuable crypto coin since bitcoin. they always make "coins" for poker but they always move to managing the table , software and people..why? got to get those humans involved. ridiculous @@wysonlegion5398
@nevmat1595
@nevmat1595 3 ай бұрын
This is like listening to grade 3 teachers droning on with drivel, whilst over analysing and over complicating shit. Total garbage.
@bennybeeeee
@bennybeeeee 5 ай бұрын
Blahblahblah, blahblah. Blah blah.
@justinbogeajis2949
@justinbogeajis2949 14 күн бұрын
Pointless
@SeamyEmail
@SeamyEmail 5 ай бұрын
This is a waste of time.
@chezchezchezchez
@chezchezchezchez 5 ай бұрын
This is over complicated. I have much simpler way of teaching my students the same thing.
@moldyorangepeel
@moldyorangepeel 5 ай бұрын
Nice what is it?
@chezchezchezchez
@chezchezchezchez 5 ай бұрын
@@moldyorangepeel want to become a student of mine?
@moldyorangepeel
@moldyorangepeel 5 ай бұрын
@@chezchezchezchez I'll just listen to the complicated explanations for free thanks though
@Tryptameme
@Tryptameme 5 ай бұрын
​@@chezchezchezchezconsidering you feel the need to withhold your teaching method for one of the most basic concepts in poker, I think anyone with a couple braincells to rub together would pass on hiring you.
@kezman82a
@kezman82a 5 ай бұрын
This sounds like those Nigera e-mail I´ve got recently.
@cctt3083
@cctt3083 2 ай бұрын
Get to the point besides babbling nonosense.
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