does it stay in tune if you break a string?

Hi Ola, does this have the same feel as a regular Floyd? And does it affect other more subtle Floyd techniques like subtle bigsby style vibrato or trem flutters?

@@davidyates8880 Unfortunately no But if you'll break a string you should get a new anyway

In fact it work exactly like a good ol' Tremsetter, with a different setup, especially you don't have to drill anything. Flutter : not possible with this. But who give a f**k about flutter if all major floating tremolo are gone.

Hi Ola I have problem with my DEAN DIME-O-FLAME (floyd rose of course), I'm not as good with guitars as you are, so I want to know how to make it stay in tune with fresh pack of strings when I want to tune it to drop C

awww that's the nicest someone ever said to me...

@@OlaEnglund any time!

@@OlaEnglund I'm having a bit of trouble finding the correct measurement for an Ibanez RG Prestige. The closest I could find is a recommendation of 35.4 x 19.7 x 7.9 inches. The site for the Tremmory only lists in 71mm, 76mm, and 86mm options. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

@@thehoppo patents.google.com/patent/RU2407067C1/ru here is a complete description of the tremmory and drawings of the TREMMORY

@@OlaEnglund patents.google.com/patent/RU2407067C1/ru here is a complete description of the tremmory and drawings of the tremmory

looks like jelly lol

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Omg lmao i thought it was gonna fall off

if you notice, the entire body of the guitar is loose and flopping around while he just keeps pounding on the whammy bar...

True, but are there any alternative products ?

@@sebasguitar132 tremmol-no is like 75 bucks and looks way more sturdy

@@thatmikeguy761 Tremol-No does not do the same thing as Tremmory

amazing,i heard it 35 years ago

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What the actual hell? xD

haha

@@AxxLAfriku wtf is wrong with you

@@adamandrews4198 I think that's actually Dr. Rockso, the rock and roll clown

@Virgil Grin Your link is broken.

@Virgil Grin I have. Not much variety to be found, but that's to be expected for something so niche.

I have a guitar with the zero point sistem, it actually works, but only with 9 gauge strings, I put a 10 custom gauge strings (10 - 46) to see how the sistem reacts, but the same problems appeared as the regular floyd (it still works but when you bend it goes a bit out of tune)

Edge zero.,. Work good but it doesn't allow me fluttering

@@lautaromarcoporleylopo8349 Yeah, i got the one with 4 springs, iirc you can remove two springs and use it as a traditional tremolo though.

Lol !

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@@endtyme1345 tremmory is my Inventory. Patent 2407067RU. RUSSIA. MOSCOW. my mail chromae@mail.ru.

IN Russia this tremmory 20 US dollars.

@@user-se4es1ck3o is it effective as this one ?? I saw your videos ! You are genious !

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except that the kahler goes out of tune as well if set to float

@@maxmustardman298 i have a strat with kahler and a sterling majesty and i have to say that the kahler close to never goes out of tune and bending is not and issue unlike the floyd and the mm style trem so really you talking like you never even tried it

@@eranbraun2 no I haven't tried a hybrid kahler like the 7300 or 7200, but I think that basic physics apply just as much as it does on other floating trems, ie if you droptune or snap a string everything else goes sharp, unless you use gadgets like the tremmory and (in the kahler case) a cam stop bolt. The bolt lets you still dive the kahler, but prevents the cam to go over the balance point and knock everything out if you detune somehow.

@@maxmustardman298 That only happens when you don't have a locking nut. Kahlers get a bad rap, but they're the superior design.

Hey! I taught the Germans how to make this tremmori. This is my invention. My original tremmory works better than the German copy. write me chromae@mail.ru

Hey! I taught the Germans how to make this tremmori. This is my invention. My original tremmory works better than the German copy. write me chromae@mail.ru

Covers_Sha Yeah man, I was stoked when I saw this. Then looked up the price....$110 euro....I’ll continue compensating as I play lol. Another option is just adding springs to your setup which makes things more stable. Takes some setup work to not be putting excess tension on your strings but it does the job as well. And you can probably buy 25 springs for the price of one of these. Cool gadget but too expensive.

@@ronsin9490 if you can use your floyd guitar and its dead stable tuning its worth a hundred fucking euros.check the price of evertune sometime ffs

the Göldo Back Box might be what you're looking for then

trillrif axegrindor Don’t need an ever tune to keep tune on a fixed bridge. They’re sweet but by no means necessary for the average guitarist. But to each their own. I have multiple FR trem guitars that I’ve been more than content with after adding springs and spending $20.

hipshot tremsetter is only 30 bucks not that difficult to install with patience

No (to both questions)

Chris Herndon I was about to comment the same exact thing. My Official Floyd 1500 never goes out of tune?? If you have the spring tension set up correctly this isn’t an issue...

@@The_Bass_Stunters probably because you guys have german shallers? try a licensed or a special...

its so you can bend ,watch the fucking video again

@@metal_helm I have a Korean made FR-1000, never goes out of tune either, and I'm dive bombing like crazy. It's not where the FR was made, it's how you set up and tune it.

Denis Didenko bend a note hard and see if your floating bridge moves at all. Probably does. I have a similar device and the bridge stays still even though it’s a floating one. I can drop D tune instantly and the rest of the strings stay in their exact tuning.

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I know that tool and I should get one too

link please! ;)

@@ablacon64 don't mind me, just commenting so i can see what this thing is....

50% true. When you have to move the saddle away from the pick ups you have to detune the string or you risk breaking it. Because even just a minute movement can make that high E turn in to high G. Or another issue is the intonation tool slipping and flying off. Its not perfect, but it helps.

Unfortunately that tool doesn’t work on low profile Floyds. I always use a piece of tight rolled up and taped paper towel that has the right size and put it underneath the trem on the top side to prevent it from going sharp when loosening strings

They are very stable but like any floating tremolo they have the string bending flaw which, other than developing a different technique to compensate, can only be fixed with some sort of tremolo stabilizer

stable and floyd rose in one sentence? what is stable on a fr-guitar?

Is that thumb bolt locked in or could you replace it with an Allen wrench tightened bolt?

@@torchlord11 I think you can replace it , I've never backed it all the way out, 4 months later and still very impressed with this , I've gigged this guitar a dozen times since I put it on , and I can disengage it (loosen the bolt) to get more flutter and if I'm still in tune when re locking it all works perfectly

@Virgil Grin You are correct sir thats all this is

Or simply change them one by one...

Changing strings on a Floyd is a matter of looking up the Frudua method and learning it.

@@legryzzly2 But then you cant clean fretboard and eventually it became dirty as... fretboard in the Solar guitar in this video.

I just block the bridge and take the strings off. Tune to key then remove the block and fine tune. If you want to switch to a heavier string gauge is where I ran into problems.

Then the Göldo Black Box/Rockinger Black Box might be what you need. Same funcionality, one fifth of the price.

Acer Pseudoplantatus whats that?

@@youarenotsafe2215 The black box is similar device to this or a tremsetter or the Ibanez backstop. It goes in the spring cavity in a similar way. These devices have been around years. From what I understand this one just works the best of them all which is why people are excited about it. I've not used this tremmory or black box, but the other two make your trem feel a lot more stiff when diving. So I assume the biggest difference is the feel of the trem with this.

@@youarenotsafe2215 www.thomann.de/gb/goeldo_backbox.htm

Yeah, cost is pretty crazy. Nice name, BTW...

Holy shit 110.00 euros?

I bet you could go from for example drop D to open D to standard. Going to thicker strings/drop B etc. would be the challenge

Or more likely they dont know how to set it up. If you set it up right you rarely need to tune at all. Im with you. Bizarre comment.

Yeah you can't flutter which by itself makes the modification not worth it, but when you make that modification and add a d tuna as well? I think the ability to quickly switch from standard to drop D and also maintain better tuning out weighs the ability to flutter or do any dimeback squeels. I feel like we guitarist to use tremolos to go down more than we use them to go up

@@jamesmoses4066 I think it depends on how many guitars you have and in what context you use them, for me I have 8 "working" electric guitars and 4 of them have trems (3 locking). I also don't play gigs so I'm not limited to just taking 2 or so but that's just me, there are always going to be tradeoffs. I personally use trems to go up and down pretty equally and do lots various degrees of vibrato.

@@InVacuo assuming you only had 1 guitar, would you value the ability to bend upwards versus better tuning stability plus the ability to switch between e and drop d instantly?

@@jamesmoses4066 Well I want to say that would be purely hypothetical but I actually had a similar situation when I first moved to Germany, two guitars, full floating trems, one E-standard, one B-standard. After a few months I got myself a hard-tail 7st. however.

I had exactly the same thought. Evertune lite for the poor ;)

@@PERRECTUMpl go look at the pricing for this spring. not for poor people at all

More like Ibanez Edge Zero trem.

​@smug Yep, tremol-no is way different. It does not "stabilize" like the tremmory/tremsetter/etc (which help pull the bar back to default position after diving). Tremel-no allows you to lock your trem like a hard tail or put it into a dive only so you can't pull up on the bar. I have one on a Jackson Kelly which was one of my first guitars. It was great when it was my only guitar and I wanted to change tuning for different songs to learn ****Note: when you do this to temporarily change tunings you can not unlock it and use as a floating trem with a new tuning, you'll need to tune it back to your default tuning before unlocking it if you want it to be floating again otherwise you'll have to re-setup everything (tuners/spring tension/fine tuners) for the new tuning****. For me personally Tremel-no is really just good for holding the trem in place while changing strings instead of a wedge of wood as I only use one tuning for it now since I acquired several guitars for other tuning. You could theoretically lock the tremol-no and do your bends fine and then unlock the thumbs screws when you need to use the whammy bar, but in my experience it'll go out of tune a little once you go from locked to unlocked anyway and you'll have to tune it once it's in floating mode. Just my thoughts on tremel-no since I've had one in a guitar for over 10 years. It's great if you only have one guitar which happens to have a floyd rose and want to experiment with other tunings (in locked/hardtail mode) without buying a new guitar and works well for changing strings.

So a more expensive Super Vee Mag Lok

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Agreed! Price is absurd for a tiny piece of metal. I use floyd since the 80's and that "bend problem" never stopped me from playing, in fact I got used to it decades ago. Being able to drop tuning would be nice though, but since we don't usually do it "on stage" I'll save my money for something else. BTW, I can dive bomb, grab the bar as a drunk violent mad monkey, jump over it, piss on it, and my Floyd does not get out of tune anyway.

The original patent holder sells these at a much reasonable price. Though you won’t get the german craftsmanship nor classy looks, you’ll still get a working device from the inventor himself. Just do a thorough search on YT (tip: his vids are of poor quality and lack any descent marketing strategy))

Well tremol-no is expensive too, this one is much more awesome

@Virgil Grin this thing is much more amazing than tremolno ,

@@kuzWich give us another hint! like a big one lol

I mean, how often do people do flutters?

@@MrKylederp People don't flutter enough.

this also requires that you replace a single spring with this item....

trillrif axegrindor I have this too. Instead of 3 springs i have 2 red springs that are stronger tension. Looks cooler too. No big deal with springs.

Carlos Fernández Martín doesn’t Zero point use 2 small springs to pull the bridge the opposite way of the regular big springs tension.

@Nim you have a 350dxz loaded with a edge zero ii tremolo?

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Id take tuning stability over those stupid flutters

@@naegleriafowleri1715 Something must be terribly wrong with your bridge then. My guitar has a Schaller floyd and I barely have to unlock and tune it once a month, if at all. Basically all decent floating bridges do that.

Thats right

I haven't look it up but when you change strings and go up in gauge of course more string tension and tighten the two screw going into the wood evenly and Patience is a great thing as now the guitar has different reality when they first came out they would drive you nuts I learned a lot about the tension and there for the sound tone and intonation

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I think the Frudua method helps in maintaining tuning while allowing for full range dive bomb level usage of the whammy bar. However It does not stop your other strings from going flat in a double stop bend etc. The expected technique is to rest the side of your palm on the bridge during bends. Correct me if Im wrong. I want to use the Frudua method but this singular fact is preventing me from lifting the bridge of my guitar.

I've used a Mag Lok for years, they are awesome.

No Reason it’s going to be a while

Bob Lo oh yeah, it will be. And I’m italian, so it will be a lot more for me

Stay safe !

Can you pls explain? I don't understand xd

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No modifications needed. You use the thumbscrew to dial in the zero position. Then all strings will stay in tune and you can drop tune or break a string and it stays in tune

Yeah, but better bridge is usually way mooooooore expensive, I think it's good deal

I’d say it worth it for convenience

I agree that it is very, very expensive (overpriced) but most Floyd Rose bridges do cost way more than that. The cheapest Floyd Rose system costs over €300. The Ibanez floating tremolos are a bit cheaper than that, and the Schaller ones are even cheaper than that (but start at €170, so still more than the Tremmory).

Taking a close look at the tremmory, it seems to be just about identical in function to a hipshot tremsetter, which is much less expensive (i.e. about 40USD).

I think he means a floating Floyd when doing double-stops or when you do a drop tuning and everything else goes out-of-tune.

Did you even watch or understand the video?

Thanks for letting us know how to contact him.