Love when you guys bring up Barry. He was a gem and is certainly missed by viewers who have been here long enough

Eric and Chad sitting down for a gun gripes is one of my favorite things about this channel. Don’t ever stop.

As a gun guy and a car guy, when I’m asked about Gucci guns, my answer is pretty basic : “Make it work, make it yours. Not everyone drives VW beetles.”

Can you do a video about how the California attorney general "leaked" thousands of private citizen gun owners' name, birth date and addresses? This needs to get out.

You shoot anything and they're taking the gun. That's money potentially lost. Cheap and works is where it's at... Even used is better

"Glock perfection", "but let me change out every part to make it run better"

I can honestly say I am the "master of my tool" since I was 12 yo I have been honing my skills to exacting perfections. Now back to gun, I roll with a shadow systems dr920 mainly because of the trigger and the trigger guard not being 2 inches thick like a glock also that sexy and extremely functional beaver tail that reminds my slightly of a modern 1911 beaver.

Whatever makes YOU happy..because in reality, that's all that matters.

buy all the guns you can doesn't matter if gucci or not can't have to many guns!!!!!!!+

Glock 19 GEN three. It is the Ford F-150 of pistols. Yeah it’s big yeah it’s chunky but it gets the job done.

I feel like if u end up shooting someone...ur gun is going into evidence so why would you want to tie up an expensive ass gun

At about the 30 minute mark, shows Eric's weakness in the hypothetical situation that he's forced to grab a rifle for a situation. He's going to stand in front of his safe(s) for 15 minutes trying to choose which one to grab lol.

The most "Gucci" I would go is shadow systems mr920 war poet. You get a little bit of everything and it being hand picked functional parts by John Lovell, I trust it!!

Gotta have a Gucci HiPoint😂

Depends on the use or what you do for it. Most importantly, if you’re using Gucci or any other make sure you’re comfortable with it

Think we might need to revisit PCP air rifles. They’re getting pretty powerful . I recently got one just so I don’t have to travel to the range . And its actually saving me money on ammo. And I am very impressed

I get it some want fancy. But from experience, you want it to be life-depending reliable. I used to carry a G30 with an extended mag thinking I'm good. When I found out at the range it jammed and stove-top'd ALOT. It was at that point I realized my life could have been on the line. So it's best to be practical, always.

I like how people knock others for trying out parts on their Glocks and pistols but no one bats an eye at AR15s. It feels like today it's no longer what's the best features on my AR15 but "how much money can I throw on it"

My weapon has a light, eats any ammo and fires every time. Gucci enough for me.

I put a $1000 or so into a g17 build and love it, it’s not really a Gucci Gun it’s just nice parts that always function and never fail

Nearly all the Gucci rifles out there are really over-gassed. That's basically their big secret on how to be ultra reliable.

I'd say leave your carry gun completely stock, so if you ever have to drop someone they can't say you modified your gun to make it "more deadly"

Beretta 92 and Browning Hi-Power is as gucci as I get

I would say no. Get something that works, that you can reliably hit with, and that you know isn't a piece of junk.

Id say you can keep fancy stuff in general if you want to leave something behind for your next of kin one day, because lets be honest these gucci guns aren't just a daily thing that we can replace or forget about eventually or something we use all the time to the point that it breaks and you scrap it for parts or just buy a new one, all these applies if you are financially poor if not then go ahead and do these things to your gucci guns but for us peasants we expect it to last long and be top of the line in its time since we spent the extra dime, but if you are a man of the present and you have no intent of leaving something fancy behind for your next of kin but rather make sure you live long enough to see your next of kin then maybe, maybe not buy a gucci gun, just buy a gun that's reliable and moderately cheap if you can

I LOVE my War Poet MR920, over 2k rounds through it. Most expensive pistol I have ever owned and took a lot of saving up for. I pray I never have to use it. I am sure the PD or DA would love to hang on to it.

Gucci Glocks make neat safe queens, but when you start adding all the skeletonized speed holes into the frame, those just become dust bunny accumulation holes for a CC gun.

Not for me. I just need one reliable pistol that I can shoot well. Rest of the money is spent on ammo.

Have either of you tried one of the Wilson Combat AR-15's? Very well functioning rifle.

My opinion is it’s better to have a cheap gun you practice with all the time. Then an expensive gun you think will make you a better shooter. Experince is always #1

I have a maverick 88 I’ve had it since 2004 and I absolutely love it

I've had q lot of guns over the years and I never tune on them because I think the gunsmiths at S&W, Taurus etc are smarter than I am with guns since they're selling to me so why try to enhance. I wanted a S&W 38 with a good trigger, so I got a Performance Center. Just my opinion

M&P45c Talon grip wrap, Fiber optic sights and Apex complete trigger upgrade. That is about as Gucci as I need an " Everyday Gun " to be.

It's that switch that will get you in trouble but you guys got the legal switches

Walked in a shop asking for a hi point 9mm as my 1st and was immediately told to not even think about it. :/

At IDPA, the pistols I see malfunction the most are: 1. Heavily modified Glocks 2. 1911's The pistols I see malfunction the least: Stock Glocks and other stock striker-fired pistols

I'm glad you're supporting firearms legal protection! I've had them for years and they really are awesome!

Buy a reliable; serviceable pistol then buy another one just like it. If you have to use it you're gong to lose it. It will end up in an evidence room somewhere, for an unknown amount of time. That's where pistol number 2 comes in.

I bought a Sig P320 subcompact in 9mm when they were released. It has been 100% reliable other than minor obvious mag issues during the high stress drills in windy, dirt, awful conditions. Have over 3000 rounds down the pipe. Regularly do drills where mags were dropped at certain points and got dirty! I had to "shoot and scoot" with a randomly loaded mag in the pistol, ditto with spare mag, and random mags in the dirt. Verbal ques where barked out to tell me where the threat was. I decided what cover/mag depot I ran to. High stress, random round counts, a few "tap, rack, bangs" because of dirt coating mags. Very valuable training (for me). Slow is smooth, smooth is fast

One of the few modded guns is my Walther P22 the main mod I did is a captured recoil spring to make it easier to clean

Imma Gucci my Hi-Point C9 with the Hundred Dollar Bill grips and the MCK Gen 2 when it comes out 😄 😄 😄 only gave 100 for it used.

I basically keep it simple in my carry options. There is alot of good durable pistols at 5-800$ and some cheaper. For me i don't have time to tinker with all these different options. Find a trigger you like put a red dot on it id call it good but I tend to keep it simple. Really it comes down to can you put rounds on target or not? The rest doesn't really matter.

If I was to choose a “Gucci” gun I’d go for the 92x performance. I love the m9 and the stainless finish on the performance is beautiful.

Oh man, I'd love that Wilson Combat P320. That would be awesome. I put their grip modules on my 320x5 and 365xl. My current gucci is the Shadow Systems MR920. The basic is the 320/365xl or gl45. ARs - LWRC and Ruger 556/PSA. Shotguns - no high end for me... Stoeger and Mossy do the work for me.

" Basic AR? S&W M&P 15." It was good enough for the Kenosha Kid 👍

G.G. list. 1: Hk P30Ls in .40 s&w 2: Hellcat RDP in 9mm 3: D.E. L5 44Mag 4: Q Honeybadger 300B

I build my own or modify my own. But! I study and research before doing so. It's like the Springfield Armory Range Officer I'm working over, one step at a time, to use either .45Super or .460Rowland. Right now it's set up for.45acp 230gr +p. I had to change the springs and get a balance of reliable ejection vs throwing brass into next week.

i love how Knowledgeable yall are it has helped me choose what type of gun owner i want to be and its helped me to decide what type of guns i want and how to keep reliability on my side.

as a nys resident, if your gun is used in a shooting YOU WILL NEVER GET IT BACK, carry the cheapest gun you can trust

Base gun: HK45, Gucci gun: Ed Brown Kobra Carry.

My browning hipower takes reddots and stuff and wasnt super expensive.... Im just sayin

Love my shadow systems. Mr920 War Poet

“Big baggy britches” 😂😂😂

Love the gun gripes. Thanks for sharing.

I think from a practical stand point, unless you shoot competition, there is no need for a gucci gun. However if you want a gucci gun, then go for it, because it's your right to own what you want.

Like my grandfather said make the shot count .he was a master and a lot of guns back than were single shot .

I have upgrades from Bowen Classic Arms, Cylinder and Slide, Smith and Wesson Master Revolver Package and aftermarket front sights from Brownell’s on my big bore revolvers from S&W.

My glock 19 gen 4 has all factory stuff in it, but mine is sluggish going back into battery if I do that, I've always wondered why it would, it didn't when I first got it but after about 150 rounds it started to do it. Great video as always fellas

don’t get belly button lint in the lightening cuts

I got my glock 19 with cyber bronze cerakote finish, 2 small lighting cuts with a royal arms flared mag well zev 2 compensator and a zafari titanium threaded barrel, with a cut for a rmr with a holosun 403c with trijicon suppresdor night sights, and laser etched diamond pattern stippling on the grip. I don't know why I need all of this because now i don't even want to carry it, it just sit in the safe. It's reliability hasn't changed it's just that i don't want it taken if used.

Interestingly, I kept my Carry pistol absolutely stock for years. It's an early M&P 2.0, so it doesn't have front slide serrations, still has the hinge trigger, and no optics cut. It has served me very well. However, over time, I have made incremental changes. The first was lightly reducing the coarseness of the grip on the left side to make a little less harsh on skin. Of course, I added a light. Thought I opted for a minimal light with decent lumens and candela. It is small, so it is still comfortable to carry, but the slight weight still helps absorb recoil. Eventually, I was looking at polymer80 frames and Sig Sauer undercuts. So I made one for my own. It took me a few attempt since I was always worried that I would take off too much material. But now my finger sits in a wide channel(I have big hands) and I can get very high on the gun. I also ground down and polished the handguard to make it more uniform. It's crazy how a slight groove can help you "lock" into the gun. Lately, more red dots are coming out that are not too bulky and not too small. The EPS Carry is low enough to co-witnesses with standard height iron sights. So I got one and now I am going to have the slide cut to mount the EPS Carry directly. But I am also having front serrations and lightening cuts on the slide to keep the weight close to the same. So, gradually, my pistol is looking more gucci. But I am not making these changes to look good. I feel like a proper tool should only be changed to improve performance. Though it doesn't have to look janky either. I really don't mind the trigger. But I do want a more traditional tab safety design. I really want a new gen M&P 2.0 flat face trigger. I don't want Apex. But it's hard to find the newer M&P 2.0 tab triggers as spare/replacement parts. I don't feel like the aftermarket M&P triggers are worth the price for the slight change you get. The original 2.0 trigger is pretty decent. It's mostly the hinge design that just isn't quite perfect. Personally, I don't really like most gucci guns, but sometimes I feel like it is inevitable to make changes and refinements the more you practice with certain guns.

As an AK enthusiast my attitude toward all these crazy post production accessories that gucci the platform out is "Nyet, rye fulls fine."

I'll take the 6 PSA daggers for the price of 1 ZEV please.

I will always carry my Glock 19x or my Walther ppq q5 match polymer. Both have run with 0 issues for a couple thousand rounds each. I don’t even clean my Glock really. Just oil and make sure there is no fuzz or dust from carrying or going in my backpack. My AR that i would take is my aero precision with a geissle trigger. Same as the Glock and Walther, never had an issue just keep her clean and oiled. Just remember, in a self defense situation, more times than not your firearm will sit in an evidence locker. I would rather $1000 upgraded Glock sit than a 2k+ pistol.

if im gonna get a Gucci Shot gun, its gonna be a custom berretta over under for pheasant hunting.

Started with a G19 with factory nite sights, switched to a P365xl for my edc. I prefer keeping everything stock. I’d love a Radian model 1 14.5

Great discussion guy's.... This is some stuff a lot of us are thinking.

Gucci if you can realistically afford it and keep it for play time. A carry weapon should be a basic gun, maybe some glow in the dark sights and a trigger job but not much more. Don't be the guy living in a $ 5k trailer while driving a $ 30k car.....

If you use it for social work, the cops will try to keep it. If you have a 3000 pistol, that stings a bit more than a G3C or a SD9VE for 250-350....

Thank you very much gentlemen. I enjoyed this gun gripe a lot. Lots of great information and topics for me think over.

Cool on the 300 Hamr.

Out of the box bet your life on it- Glock 19 ,HI Vis fiber optic sights, TLR7 light. I wasn't aware Glocks had that many problems being suppressed. I have pistol cans but have yet to get a threaded barrel for the G19 I have now. I'm super curious. Gucci gun- Desert Eagle 50 cal, Titanium nitried coated(gold) but a nice gloss not flat or machined look, and extended mags. I like SIG and own a few but, they have had too many issues to trust your life with them and the Army is carrying the P226 or P320 around.

Few years back LEO glock trade-ins were around $300. Some extra mags, holster or two, upgraded sights, and an weapon light. Done. The only handgun upgrade I'd do would be an secondary weapon being an small double action revolver and an pocketknife.

To my entry level ideas hard to beat a Taurus G3 and a budget ar15 even a bear Creek seems well made

miss Barry too - watching him shoot that Linebau 450 or whatever was awesome! CZ75 for me all day, every way. I was actually contemplating which model version of the 75 I might prefer if not the stock 75B when Chad range the 100% Czeck gong and said CZ75 baby!!

No. You should buy a firearm that you can hand craft yourself. That leads to research, knowledge, and even potentially a good handle on safety. Besides exercising your right, it tends to make your local politicians angry while at the same time you're defending yourself by the letter of the law and constitution.

Thanks guys as always very good vid!!

I cannot wait to feel that new FN 57 MRD

Gucci pick: Taran Tactical Pit Viper Stock pick: Shadow Systems MR920

Guess maybe I’m the guy you discussed with guns failing in class. I always treat full day class as equipment test along with imp going weakest link (my skills). OTOH I also bring another firearm. Have had parts work loose on multiple firearms, even just following first unaired fieldstrip of new semi shotgun. Had made it through 80%+ of class, pump worked fine for remainder though sling on pump was an utter failure (too tight to have mount gun with sling around shoulder even adjusted out all the way).

After my “incident” they didn’t take my gun apart to see if I modified the trigger of springs. I don’t see why they would.

Best Gucci carry gun you can buy or carry is the P365 spectre series

Ultimately the most important thing is your ability to hit the target without even thinking about it. That comes from training. I am incredibly comfortable with my XDSC, and don’t feel the need for anything more. I hit what I need to when I need to. Gucci is fine for collectibles, but totally unnecessary in a carry gun.

Base Shotgun: Remington 1100 Tactical. Gucci Shotgun: Benelli M1014 or M4

Great points guys.

I have several low tier and mid tier ar's. I recently got a Barrett ar and there is a world of difference. I'm looking at selling all my other ar's and buy another Barrett.

I have a Wilson Combat trigger in my Colt le6920 and I love it

I gotta say the Hipoint actually looks semi okay in that long slide variant. I don't think they're particularly ugly because they're not fancied up with all kinds of useless aesthetic details and machining, they are just oddly proportioned. The long slide hipoint looks better proportioned and less odd.

the way i see it is the same for all edc i want something not too cheap because i dont trust cheap but also dont have the funds for gucci stuff also dont want to risk loosing something that expensive whether by thief or by cops and i also want something worth it that can also be passed down to future generations also guns like shadow systems will give you free guns if it gets stolen or taken from use in self defense

For an out-of-the-box "basic carry gun," I'd go with the Sig P365 XL. For a "Gucci carry gun," I'd go with either the Staccato C2 DPO or the Wilson Combat EDC X9.

My zev oz9 is the best home defense pistol I think you can get for the money.

I have one of those crown grade mossbergs in 20ga bought it cheap at a gun show, love it to death

If a Hi Point goes bang when you need it to, it's a good gun.

My Gucci gun is a whitworth reproduction rifle and I my most expensive rifle. It's very accurate and I recommend on its $2.1k just by itself but with a platinum lined nipple and kal hexagonal .45 cal bullets they're amazing

If someone hypothetically modified 12g birdshot rounds to be 7/8 oz Lee drive slugs and had to use them in self defense could that potentially be used in court as "he modified 12 gauge shotgun ammunition to be *more lethal* he is a murderer!!!!!! .. simply because of the ammunition modification!"?

I have a old full size in M&P 40 1.0 and when I switched the barrel to 357sig I noticed a little extra wear on the locking lugs after 200 rounds or so. Then I added a plate, and a Holosun 507Cv2, I reblued the barrel exterior and the locking lugs and that wear pattern didn't come back. The extra weight helped to tame the extra recoil from the 357 round.

Gucci guns say Come look at me ! I say Don’t look at ME !

Haha Chad has the exact same changes to his glock I do.

A kinda funny comparison, the AR world will say a 16" barrel is too long for home defense but an 18" barrel shotgun is totally fine.

When you can build your own as many can... Yes, they're all Gucci. 😁