The Tragedy of Overkill's The Walking Dead

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From Dead Rising’s zany antics to the bleakness of Telltale’s The Walking Dead, gaming had become oversaturated with all manner of zombie titles by the mid-2010s. As with anything, however, the market willingly made extra room for the right project at the right time. Such was the case in 2014 when Skybound Entertainment and Payday publisher Starbreeze partnered to create Overkill’s The Walking Dead-a first-person cooperative shooter with Payday-esque qualities set in the same universe as the acclaimed comic book series.
Well versed in the issues that plagued countless licensed titles of the past, Skybound and Starbreeze deliberately tried sidestepping the most common trappings. For one, despite its connection to the IP’s wider lore, the teams treated Overkill’s The Walking Dead like an original game, complete with new characters, a previously unexplored setting, and fresh stories. Bucking the trend of utilizing licensed games as glorified marketing tools served as another example of each company’s commitment to a high-quality end result. But it wasn’t enough.
The project’s status as a licensed game, and the usual baggage that came with it, had no bearing on the disastrous 2018 release. Overkill’s The Walking Dead instead endured a four-year production cycle beset by delays, a mid-development engine switch, and a protracted period of crunch-all courtesy of inept leadership. Thus, this is a tale of wasted potential, one of over-ambition and little preparation culminating in broken promises and one company’s sudden financial ruin.
This is the tragedy of Overkill’s The Walking Dead.
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@zyonhenderson67 3 жыл бұрын

I just can't believe that this game had some of the most gripping zombie trailers I've seen, and ended up being a trash shoot em up

@GrubHuncher 3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Dead Island

@richardpatterson1694 3 жыл бұрын

Well it was a CG trailer of course they'll make it look as pretty as possible and then do the bare minimum for the actual game.

@MrRetrogoo 3 жыл бұрын

@@GrubHuncher dead island is a rough janky gem tho 👌

@rexplorer.official 3 жыл бұрын

For me, if a developer is mostly only showing cgi trailers to get the hype going is a big red flag. They didn’t show gameplay for awhile after the many cgi trailers put out iirc.

@richardpatterson1694 3 жыл бұрын

@@rexplorer.official something that I respect about Nintendo there business practices are horrible but at least they show you gameplay for a majority of all the games just look at there E3.

@WarmFizzyMilk 3 жыл бұрын

why do management INSIST on devs using engines they never asked for

@Rusty254 3 жыл бұрын

Usually because someone pitched it to them as the best thing since sliced bread with cheap/free licensing or it was created by friends of management.

@punishedbarca761 3 жыл бұрын

This one specifically is because of Valhallas apparently amazing rendering tech. Producers see dollar signs when they hear the words "it can make your game look cutting edge" and always forget that an engine needs more than a pretty renderer to be useful.

@Zombiekilleryamato 3 жыл бұрын

Because the Diesel engine was really bad it’s the reason The consul version doesn’t have all the continent and gave up and are only doing PC DLC now And why PAyDay 3 will use unreal engine

@486x 3 жыл бұрын

because they know better!

@fufu1405 3 жыл бұрын

@@486x Management knows better than the actual developers? What are you smoking?

@JaitsuStudios 3 жыл бұрын

"but it was not the fault of those down in the trenches" It very, very rarely is. 90 percent of the time when a game fails, the blame falls squarely on leadership or managers refusing to focus on what should be dealt with.

@YeTheGOATNoCap 3 жыл бұрын

The massive egos on a lot of these people in those positions can single handedly ruin a project.

@codylamp6814 3 жыл бұрын

Cyberpunk fucking 2077. That game hurt the whole industry, I am surprised CDPR hasnt had a massive exodus of employees.

@Dirtbag-Hyena 3 жыл бұрын

They focus on the money, and how fast they can make it. That's it.

@Dirtbag-Hyena 3 жыл бұрын

@@codylamp6814 Whatever happened to the cyber theft?? Did that get resolved??

@Texelion3Dprints 3 жыл бұрын

@@codylamp6814 Lots of people left during the development, not after. From what we know ( it was reported by Schreier if I remember correclty ) only a few people from the Witcher 3 team remains ( outside of the leads ), most of them weren't happy with the direction the game took and were replaced by new people, a lot of them fresh out of school ( which probably explains why a lot of features are worse than in games from 15 years ago, newbies just don't have the knowledge to do it ). You can feel when playing it that it wasn't made by the same people. Like Bioware with Andromeda.

@freaskydoodle999 3 жыл бұрын

forgot this existed

@brandonsclips7741 3 жыл бұрын

I forgot your mom existed.

@superskrull62 3 жыл бұрын

Facts lol........... Fucking facts!!!!!

@DeadPhoenix86DP 3 жыл бұрын

@@brandonsclips7741 Very immature and constructive reply.

@brandonsclips7741 3 жыл бұрын

@@DeadPhoenix86DP Your mom is mature and constructive in conversations

@Ike_of_pyke 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't because I remember telling the cg animator his game was taking too fucking long to come out and him getting pissy

@InTheMindOfDavid 3 жыл бұрын

I was working at GameStop when Overkill’s The Walking Dead was being marketed, which GameStop was banking on selling A LOT of copies because “Zombies” and to make up for low call of duty sale the year prior and low call of duty pre-orders that year. What’s really crazy is store were sent PS4 and XB1 copies a whole month before it’s launch date, which never happened before or since. So we’re sitting on 30 copies of the game and then even had a Marketing Kit that we put up on the week of its release that was heavy marketing the game. Then the night before the midnight release, so either Sunday or Wednesday night and were instructed to take down ALL marketing related to Overkill’s The Walking Dead, but with no explanation. The next day we found out it was canceled. Everyone at my store just laughed our ass off because, for starters, GameStop had order A LOT of copies of the game excepting it to be a huge sleeper-hit like Left 4 Dead was. The other reason we were so amused was because we had copies of the game ready to be sold. Had them for a month. I’m still blown away by that single fact. Starbreeze had already pressed and shipped physical copies of the game and still pulled the plug. It’s fucking hilarious to me.

@Lucios1995 3 жыл бұрын

There's console copies out in the wild? They're a collector's item now, I didn't know they existed

@InTheMindOfDavid 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lucios1995 We were instructed to send the copies back, but it’s possible a handful people have it.

@Hot18Shot 3 жыл бұрын

Hell, I would have snuck away with a few.

@franzpattison 3 жыл бұрын

Can I have a TLDR please? Or at least proper paragraph structure so it's not just a wall of text? 😅👍

@InTheMindOfDavid 3 жыл бұрын

@@franzpattison Not trying to be a dick or patronizing but over 100 other people could read it just fine. And that in of itself is one paragraphs. And meant only to be one paragraphs. Also it’s really not a wall of text, nor is it really even that long of a paragraphs. Plus, you literally say you didn’t read it, so…how would you know if there needed to be a paragraph break…?

@igodreamer7096 3 жыл бұрын

The lack of competent leadership really can cost more that what is expected

@D0NU75 3 жыл бұрын

a good development leader can keep the corpo suits at bay from compromising most of a project's identity and leave the team to their work. A bad leadership is almost as having none, leaving the dev team to answer to out of touch people who do not even play games.

@jaku1622 3 жыл бұрын

Battlefield V flashbacks

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

Bo was a co-creator of Payday. Was around through the whole Payday and Payday 2 development processes as a leader. What you're saying really doesn't work for this situation. The reality is... Payday fans didn't like this game and there's no reason why they would have. OTWD is a stealth based zombie apocalypse camp management game where walking dead universe rules apply, where you are punished for making noise, you have to use melee fighting as your default fighting mechanics. Easily 98% of the people who trashed this game were Payday people who were salty that the game was made at all, instead of Payday 3 being made.

@D0NU75 3 жыл бұрын

@@DonniePCgames but then you see the game trying to do merits of it's own and it completely misses the mark with bugs and stuff. Also it was plagued by cheaters not long after it's steam release.

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

@@D0NU75 not it wasn't. You have no idea what you're talking about. You clearly didn't play this. It's always people who didn't play this game who have the loudest opinions. This is a 4 player CO-OP game. Not a PVP multiplayer game. The games are locally hosted, not hosted on servers and you can vote kick players and restrict players from joining your session by making the session private.

@Milo92927 3 жыл бұрын

Sad too see how the bosses of game companies don’t care anymore about the game but care only about the quick cash

@lutherheggs451 3 жыл бұрын

What.....You mean the entire purpose of a company is to make money....Oooooohhhhh myyyyy gaaaaawwwwwwddddd...Its almost like thats how its always been, Jesus maybe you should start a company and show them how you can develop games, run a company and pay employees salaries with hearts and minds....

@misterpotato427 3 жыл бұрын

@@lutherheggs451 i dont think that is what he means, I understand your point but still if the owners of the company only want Quick money its almost guaranteed to be a bad game. Sorry for my bad grammar

@SylverstoneKhandr 3 жыл бұрын

@@lutherheggs451 You completely missed the point. Obviously the point is to make money, but how can you do that by selling poorly-produced products? That's not smart at all.

@EggEnjoyer 3 жыл бұрын

@@lutherheggs451 You can balance the need for money and quality of product. The problem is that capitalism demands infinite growth. Making a lot of money is never enough, the goal is always to make all of the money. You can make 500 million dollars and the first question you’re gonna be asked as CEO is “how can we make more”. You can make 500 billion and you’ll still be asked that same question. You never just make enough and are comfortable with your business as is. There’s disgusting need for infinite growth. That’s just how capitalism functions.

@novato455 3 жыл бұрын

That's mercantilism not capitalism mate. Mercantilism allows the hoarding of resources at the expense of workers and customer; capitalism its just free market, anyone can trade, plus producers gain a lot by making what customers want.

@muckymucks 3 жыл бұрын

I played the beta and thought the game was terrible. It was team-based and that didn’t work well playing with a bunch of randos because some missions required stealth and there was always someone who wanted to go in guns a blazing. Other missions required securing the base and shooting waves of zombies, which also required team work. The controls were also jerky and didn’t feel fluid at all. It was a bad game. I remember the publisher trying to build hype for this game. On launch day they had a Twitch show where they hired Greg Miller to host and everything was off. Nobody was excited but boy did they try.

@SarkkiKarkki 3 жыл бұрын

Whenever Miller is hired you know it's gonna be bad.

@igodreamer7096 3 жыл бұрын

Damn

@shawklan27 3 жыл бұрын

Oof

@Sparkmovement 3 жыл бұрын

@@SarkkiKarkki WOWWWWWWWWWW. That was literally damn near my exact words. I don't think companies who hire him understand, who exactly their hiring. lol

@ChiknTikka 3 жыл бұрын

Played the beta too, tried a few games but the controls felt awful and the game was just bland. Really disappointed.

@Krenki5555 3 жыл бұрын

_"We've made it clear that Payday 2 will have no microtransactions whatsoever (shame on you if you thought otherwise!)"_ - Overkill circa 2013

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

I saw people bitching about this on the Overkills Walking Dead forums. Salty payday fans wanting to crap on anything Overkill did.

@odanobukatsu4649 3 жыл бұрын

@@DonniePCgames Why is that a bad thing? They lied. People were mad that they lied. That's all.

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

@@odanobukatsu4649 Overkill are just the developers. Starbreeze is the publisher... and all the people who talked shit about the microtransactions went and bought DLC themselves. They will buy Payday 3 with DLC as well. Because they are fucking tools with no actual cause.

@centercannothold 2 жыл бұрын

@@DonniePCgames That is just your projection man . You can’t prove that . Take a chill pill.

@iicustodianlaw 2 жыл бұрын

at least we got marioinatophat

@addidaswguy 3 жыл бұрын

I was soo excited, when we saw that trailer of the old man sitting in the car, I was wicked hyped. The thought of a badass game with branching storylines that looked great in this universe could have sold so well. But it was a huge let down.

@NIRO_II 3 жыл бұрын

Mid development engine switch... never heard that being featured in a critically acclaimed game 🤔

@NIRO_II 3 жыл бұрын

@2 Corinthians 4:7-11 original borderlands was a masterpiece. ALTHOUGH endgame was nonexistant after killing tentacles.

@slinkbradshaw8674 2 жыл бұрын

@@NIRO_II man we really be throwing the term MASTERPIECE around like nothing these days

@NIRO_II 2 жыл бұрын

@@slinkbradshaw8674 fallout 76 reset our standards

@ShadowAngel-lt8nw Жыл бұрын

@@NIRO_II Boringlands was still a piece of crap. Typical Gearbox garbage.

@kirbymarchbarcena 3 жыл бұрын

The game was already dead from the very beginning. A company that pushes its employees beyond their physical, emotional and mental limits is an overkill, ironically.

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

That's 100% of all games. It's typical for devs to work 100 hour work weeks.

@LaRavachole 3 жыл бұрын

@@DonniePCgames That doesn't make it any less worse. It's something that should and must be addressed in this industry.

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

@@LaRavachole Can you explain how to address it? Because video games take a VERY long time to make. GTAV was in alpha for four years and they had the biggest gaming budget in history. You can't just pay more money. It takes a long time to make games and if you want your game coming out semi fast, you have to work long hours. It's not just gaming. The movie business is like this. Director Kevin Smith just said in an interview that he would easily put over 100 hours in a week to get things done for his movies. Ever worked in retail? General Managers of high end high volume retail stores like Wal Mart easily do 80 hour weeks. During important crunch times like inventory they do 100 to 120 hour weeks. Working hard and long hours is common if you consider yourself one of the best in the business, period. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea how hard work actually goes.

@LaRavachole 3 жыл бұрын

@@DonniePCgames There's a clear difference between hard working and literally burning yourself out to the point of health and mental problems, which is sadly becoming common as more reports of these sort of thing comes out. I'm talking about crunch and the abuse of the higher ups on their Dev team. And as always, their only interest is quick and easy money. You DON'T have to torture your employees for them to release a game, it's called having a schedule and a realistic one at that that doesn't push the next "big thing" in the smallest ammount of time possible which also shows to be a good reason for failures. When the developing team is burnt out and the time is not enough, chances are the product will suck or not be worth all the trouble and problems it caused on the ones who made it. A good example of why none of that fallacy of "hard work" sticks is this video. No matter how much they worked, this project had no salvation and the higher ups put the blame on the Devs to try and hide their fuck ups. This story isn't new. Look The Last of Us part 2 or Cyberpunk 2077, both done by these so called "best in the business". You address this by speaking it up and out and then, if you feel that you have to, vote with your wallet. Don't support bad business practices. If people stopped buying lootboxes, for example, things could be different.

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

@@LaRavachole the entire "higher ups blamed the devs" is nothing more than speculation. Unconfirmed rumors that people like yourself just automatically believe. You also have absolutely no idea what the hell went on during the development of this game. Just because someone reports "anonymous sources" as fact it doesn't mean it's fact. Simply put... Overkill is still a developer team who works for Starbreeze and they are making Payday 3 as we speak. I know several devs and I have a development hobby of my own, so I understand the process and hard work that goes into a game. People should not be hired developers if they cannot meet deadlines or work in crunch environments. That's how contracted work goes, as I've demonstrated in countless other ways in my last post. Without crunches, work flow would be considerably slower. Games would not come out on time if at all and there's no guarantee the quality would be that much better. By the way... this game is a lot of fun. It was largely panned by the Payday community, but in my opinion it was never something they would like anyway. This game requires attention to detail and long form patient gameplay... something Payday gamers do not have. You do not get infinite ammo in this game with running and shooting. It's a stealth based strategy action first person game with camp management aspects.

@bluespart 3 жыл бұрын

I remember those teasers, they were pushing them so hard on the payday players everyone was trying to figure out how they were related to payday 2 on what that would mean for that game. It blew up on them when they revealed it wasn't anything payday related but a walking dead licensed game.

@Lucios1995 3 жыл бұрын

A human enemy mentions someone dressed as a clown but that's it

@cataorshane 3 жыл бұрын

I had no idea this game existed. These type of CEOs and big bosses need a reality check.

@ihatebananas5737 3 жыл бұрын

I agree it’s like game developers don’t care about the game anymore they’re just doing it for a quick buck now😭

@mahogany7712 3 жыл бұрын

Money creates wall that cant be circumnavigated

@jughhanus5922 Жыл бұрын

@@ihatebananas5737 It's not the developers fault. Did you even watch the video?

@ihatebananas5737 Жыл бұрын

@@jughhanus5922 did you even watch the video and read others comments🫠 it was an opinion

@jughhanus5922 Жыл бұрын

@@ihatebananas5737 Yeah, it was a pretty bad opinion.

@randomdude3578 3 жыл бұрын

Well turns out, the other brother who wanted to take it slow and keep it safe was right. I can just imagine him annoying bo with an "I told you so" at every chance he gets

@wolfpack95805 Жыл бұрын

It honestly could have been saved hearing all this, if only management hadn't bought in to whatever snake-oil salesman told them Valhalla would be the best engine deal they could ever get. That one misstep over months/years wasted so much work and brought about the crunch that resulted in a half-finished buggy mess

@meatbeatmania 3 жыл бұрын

the sad thing is the trailers for the characters where so fucking good

@byronluke6633 3 жыл бұрын

"We had hope it would be a commercial success." Yah in krder for it to be successful it jas to be playable and fun. Why do these supposed managers ignore the DEVELOPERS complaints? Those managers should be fired and blacklisted for such a monumental fuck up.

@supereldinho 3 жыл бұрын

What really gets to me is the fact the devs had a fully-functioning game engine they were heavily familiar with but upper management decided they ought to switch to a nigh-unworkable engine they paid a lot of money for, only to scrap it all and switch to Unreal. You'd think upper management would at least heed the time-honored practice of cutting costs and maximizing profit. How do companies like that even stay afloat by making such utterly bone-headed business decisions?

@annadelsiena 3 жыл бұрын

Diesel engine is dated and barely works at best, just play Payday 2 and realize just how dated it is in physics, graphics and it's performance. Lots of people wanted Overkill to step away from Diesel engine, and they did, but they instead went for Valhalla which was just... terrible. Andersson and some of the other higher ups were genuinely more interested in vanity projects and lining their own pockets, it's quite sad. Especially with the talent the studio has, seeing what they made of Payday 2

@BazzaroPlays 3 жыл бұрын

That right there should be a good example to never work with those brothers again.

@annadelsiena 3 жыл бұрын

@@BazzaroPlays Ulf is actually alright, he portrayed Wolf in Payday and is currently the person leading the GTFO project which is doing pretty well

@BazzaroPlays 3 жыл бұрын

@@annadelsiena that was the first brother to leave. After I typed it I remember one ducked out pretty quick.

@begonefosh 3 жыл бұрын

@@annadelsiena They did however switch to unreal engine sometime during development of PAYDAY 3. So it's safe to say they dumped the diesel and valhalla engine for good

@jyag730 3 жыл бұрын

It might not look like it, but this game is really legendary for how bad it turned out. I mean from the developers to the good source material coming out in the early 2010s, the project is a "spectacular trainwreck" in recent gaming history.

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

Did you play it?

@jyag730 3 жыл бұрын

@@DonniePCgames I saw a lot of clips and I’m a fan of their biggest hit “Payday 2” I would really want to check it out before there next project

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

@@jyag730 you didn't play it, so I don't want to hear opinions on how good or bad it is. Gameplay clips can be dominated by a biased person who would never like the game anyway. Payday 2 people in particular were not the target market, despite Overkill's involvement and that's the disconnection. You see... Payday people thought they would like this game and didn't but never considered that this game was never the type of game they would enjoy. This game is dominated by melee fighting and the demand to play quietly or be severely punished, per the universe rules. Payday is nothing like that.

@milowolfface9392 3 жыл бұрын

So legendary most forgot it existed. Look through out hs comment section. Oh I forgot this exist pops up way to often. I remember the hype around this game. Most were saying it will fail once we got the announcement. Walkers man, just arent interesting to fight in video game format.

@OrionDawn15 Жыл бұрын

@@DonniePCgames You don't need to play a game to recognize it's quality, you can do so based off of what you see and hear as I've often done and that has saved me plenty of money. And there's more to it than the average payday 2 player not being used to this kind of game, the game just wasn't good.

@larsgoverno6313 3 жыл бұрын

Bruh this channel is so good I can’t believe I finally found a video about this game lmao

@Jekyll_Jackal 3 жыл бұрын

Check out WhaHappun's video on this topic

@TimeBomb014X 3 жыл бұрын

Here's the thing about TWD as a franchise. On TV it works because there was no zombie tv genre and if there was they were short lived, so TV was ripe for TWD to come in and essentially take the world by storm. Video games however has the polar opposite problem, it's literally oversaturated, now not to say the failures of the games aren't because of terrible game designs, but the zombie genre already has so many different genres of zombie games that TWD doesn't have a chance.

@FrozenDozer 3 жыл бұрын

And then, on top of that, the game was awful, lol.

@LuffyBlack 3 жыл бұрын

I mean you could say the same thing about comics too in which TWD originated as, there weren't any zombie comic books of that epic scale. The other forms of media, the shitty tv show included, failed to capture what made it work. That being said Telltaile's season one was good.

@TimeBomb014X 3 жыл бұрын

@@LuffyBlack Yeah but people quicly saw the 1 string to that games bow

@0neiros. 3 жыл бұрын

@@LuffyBlack Liked, you called AMC’s the walking dead what it is, shit.

@Idiotsbabble23 3 жыл бұрын

How are zombie games over saturated

@nightbirdgames 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine an open world version of Telltales TWD. In the same style but with more of a sandbox approach with various groups and missions around the world. Along with allowing you to recruit survivors you've gained trust with and possibly building up a home base wherever you want.

@fearlesswee5036 Жыл бұрын

Sorry for necroposting, but what you've described is eerily similar to the State of Decay franchise. It's getting a 3rd entry sometime soon, and the 2nd game gets constantly updated.

@hazardousmaterials-ff7nm Жыл бұрын

You can play days gone , its kinda like what you said , also the main character has a badass bike just like daryl

@MaeveIsConfused Ай бұрын

@@fearlesswee5036 fellow necroposter here to say i fucking love State of Decay...such an underrated but perfect game ^^

@peterbparker6968 3 жыл бұрын

Love these vids the quality is amazing you guys deserve so much subscribers

@yutube2323 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the quality context. Always stoked for your new videos ♥️

@SirCrackerBulb 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, Overkills the walking dead, how I miss you, it's funny to think this game got removed from steam yet the walking dead onslaught a game with even an even lower level of quality is still up to this day, also not sure how relevant this information is but Season 2 did end up getting finished but starbreeze can't release it due to skybound

@jamespaul6315 3 жыл бұрын

You mean survival instinct, onslaught was good

@jamespaul6315 3 жыл бұрын

And even then both are better than this shit

@SirCrackerBulb 3 жыл бұрын

@@jamespaul6315 Survival instinct was the worst, but onslaught is mediocre compared to saints and sinners

@Lucios1995 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, my friend has the same thought about Onslaught. Still waiting for this to come back as well. Saw your video by the way, thank you

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

@@SirCrackerBulb I have no idea why anyone thinks survival instinct was terrible. It was a very standard game, and it actually started several trends in survival zombie gaming. It's an on the rails story game with optional routes and decision making for variety purposes. It's not game of the year quality but it's probably a 7 out of 10 if you're a Walking Dead fan.

@Ike_of_pyke 3 жыл бұрын

I've been following the brothers since bionic commando rearmed as Grin, Alf and the guys who went to might & delight(pid, shelter series, blue flamingo) are definitely where I feel the artistic talent of the grin team went, with fatshark games is where the trench workers went

@Falco561 3 жыл бұрын

Man i love this channel. Thank you for the work you guys put in to making these videos. Btw can you guys look into making a video on the matrix games. Dont know if people liked them but i loved them and would like to see the history behind them

@henrycrabs3497 3 жыл бұрын

God a Joker pfp, nice to see!

@AshtrayBanditReal Жыл бұрын

I really hope one day this project gets revisited. It has an unreasonable amount of potential. From the comics and shows source material to the well designed and realistically fleshed out characters, it had so much going for it. It still does. They need to make it one day man This game could’ve been on par with if not better than l4d

@christophertustin3602 Жыл бұрын

I would love for them to come back to the characters and use them for a game similar to the last of us, or entirely different and a story choice based game

@kingkongplays5875 Жыл бұрын

a lot of people confused this game to an action shooter when it is actually an objective-based survival game, would love to see this game come to life also someday

@theguypersondude 3 жыл бұрын

The trailers were fantastic, they would have been well off just making a feature film instead of a game.

@rexplorer.official 3 жыл бұрын

I remember back then when the trailers first released I commented on being cautious about this game. I got shitted on by all those people who were hyped for the game.

@reapthewhirlwind6915 3 жыл бұрын

nothing wrong with being optimistic

@reapthewhirlwind6915 3 жыл бұрын

no amount of hype will make or break a game its only the ppl making it/producing it

@reapthewhirlwind6915 3 жыл бұрын

you cant blame the consumer blame the corporations

@gamblerssensei7607 3 жыл бұрын

@@HZLTS so it's the consumer fault for cyberpunk being a bad game? 🤔🤔

@gamblerssensei7607 3 жыл бұрын

@@HZLTS proof?

@GiggleFist720 11 ай бұрын

mid viewing notes: 1:43 I appreciate your kind of humor when inputting the word "Crunch" along side a video of a man in a wheel chair. Maybe others wouldn't find it so funny, but I do so thank you.

@trailermashproductions3437 3 жыл бұрын

We really need a first person open world zombie game with other players that you can team or kill

@Ghaz013 3 жыл бұрын

Why is it that bad management is so prevalent in all industries.? Frustrating

@dessa4885 3 жыл бұрын

The game doesn’t look that bad but it’s a shame it failed the way it did

@Lucios1995 3 жыл бұрын

It's really not that bad. Wish they got a free weekend in before Skybound cancelled it.

@ivaartemiev 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly it was not that bad, and they were improving it greatly over time. It is just that Skybound immediately had to sever ties the moment they realized they are not pulling in nearly as much money

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

I thought the game was awesome. Had a blast playing it. Around 98% of the people who bitch about the game, never played it.

@Lucios1995 3 жыл бұрын

@@DonniePCgames Or played the beta/release build, which I heard was pretty buggy

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lucios1995 Betas are not demos. Betas are supposed to incomplete versions of games that need wide testing to fix broken features. That's the entire reasons beta versions of games exist. Idiotic gamers who can't understand this concept treating the beta like a demo and bitched about bugs.

@DevilOfRoses 3 жыл бұрын

I love that their merchandizing clip was frakkin' Steve Zaragoza doing a bit.

@KosmicKat396 Жыл бұрын

You have a very lovely voice, sir. I hope you continue to narrate these videos and other content in the future!!! ^.^

@Fryman217 3 жыл бұрын

The outlook of this game was deader than the walkers in their source material.

@lutherheggs451 3 жыл бұрын

Its lower IQ than the low IQ people who watched the TV show, expecting a LMFAO horror show even though the comic book was literally a story about how the living people left behind deal with each other and the zombies are just a background thing....Its almost like people see a trailer, know nothing about the source material and because they obviously can't read don't know what its about....

@Dirtbag-Hyena 3 жыл бұрын

@@lutherheggs451 Yeah, I never saw it as a zombie show, besides, the humans are always worse than the zombies.

@shmookins 3 жыл бұрын

I watched every video on this channel and this is the first game I never heard about before. Also, it is shocking how managers that don't know what they are doing get hired. It is clear by this example the managers had no clue how game development worked since they kept asking to change the gameplay design completely every few days... Some of the most successful companies in the world have engineers as their CEOs. You NEED to hire leaders that actually know how the sausage is made.

@cdamiengtz8992 3 жыл бұрын

I'll never not see these videos , they are great an informative 👍🏻

@MegaRohan1987 3 жыл бұрын

Love your channel!! When can we expect a video for the tragedy of Cyberpunk? That would have been a great story to know

@acunt 3 жыл бұрын

I remember being so hyped for this game after seeing the CG trailers and then I saw the gameplay, and it was just a shoddy payday clone. their biggest mistake was making overkill to make the game. they're such a one trick pony who made one good game and tried to replicate it in every other game they made. this game really should've been a 3rd person, dark and realistic open world game with an interesting story and characters with cooperative mechanics and features, and overkill definitely weren't qualified for such a thing, but "they made a hit once so they can do it again" is probably what starbreeze thought. this game is the main reason why I don't get hyped after seeing CG trailers, no gameplay means 'fuck off and come back with with something you actually made' for me now.

@itsasecrettoeverybody 3 жыл бұрын

Starbreeze logo should be in the dictionary entrance for miss management.

@lutherheggs451 3 жыл бұрын

They could put the logo next to overrated also for that mediocre meh Riddick game that special people jerk off over and swear that its some kind of masterpiece.

@Hiihtopipa 2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe they did the crunch period and suffered for nothing... That's just sad

@skelo9033 Жыл бұрын

It’s cool you guys used Walking Dead: Saints and Sinners music in the video!

@ManinTidyWhities 3 жыл бұрын

First this, and that awful discount Payday game with a WW2 theme. It's amazing how the company is still around

@reapthewhirlwind6915 3 жыл бұрын

payday 2 microtransactions make them bank

@MrFrankcap 3 жыл бұрын

There's been a complete restructuring of starbreeze (or maybe it's gone? I don't remember) The Bo dude is gone for sure and someone new is in charge. Since then, overkill shifted their focus on financing Payday 3 and are no longer with starbreeze I believe, with aid of fans buying new payday 2 expansions helping them out financially. Currently, they paid all the money they owed and started looking for a new publisher, which they found. (Forgot the name). Payday 3 was finally announced and the latest payday 2 expansion has been well received. Regardless of the mistakes they made (mostly due to terrible AWFUL management led by that Bo dude) fans loved payday and still love payday 2, which is what got overkill popular. So they are finally returning to what they should've focused on.

@loganreed9340 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrFrankcap Overkill and Starbreeze are basically the same thing

@luminosity01 3 жыл бұрын

you can thanks dead by daylight

@MrFrankcap 3 жыл бұрын

@@loganreed9340 Well, then they restructured everything and paid off their debts. They are having a fresh start with Payday 3

@tHeWasTeDYouTh 2 жыл бұрын

every time I am watching a video about a game with a troubled dev cycle we always reach the point when "the game engine was changed" . that is always the death knell to almost any game in development. It is what screwed over Romero in the Daikatana days and he left the industry

@rickyecheverria6033 3 жыл бұрын

anyone know where I can download this game?? I really want to experience it

@AKIBAI9 2 жыл бұрын

I just watched the intro cinematic and it had my attention more than the show. started grabbing some boards to build defenses and it was a straight ALT+F4

@lou45 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I remember this game, I am also still kind of financially ruined since this game.

@HootHinge 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that Bo

@brentb_ 3 жыл бұрын

feel sorry for these devs, and to think i wanted to be one back in school

@kelleygieger1598 2 жыл бұрын

You just have to be careful which studio you work for. There are a lot of great ones who actually LISTEN to the developers. This one just wanted to get it out as fast as they could, to get sales

@declaneccles3449 2 жыл бұрын

Whatever happened to this game its says its out on ps4 and pc but i can't seem to find a copy of it anywhere disk or on the ps store

@caifrootz2537 3 жыл бұрын

Hope this means your long awaited video on Telltale's The Walking Dead is soon lol

@toolazy3066 3 жыл бұрын

The game if done correctly could’ve been amazing and great

@MrRetrogoo 3 жыл бұрын

Ironically they went back on their word about payday 2 being complete to sell more dlc to recuperate from this loss. I hope they fuck up payday 3 too so people stop giving that Almir and co any more money.

@WiidLover 3 жыл бұрын

No matter what people say, the newer Payday 2 dlc are trash.

@lutherheggs451 3 жыл бұрын

@@WiidLover Payday is trash period....

@thatsnodildo1974 3 жыл бұрын

I remember seeing the trailers and getting so hyped than once the game play footage came out I lost any hope for it

@WeatbixZ 3 жыл бұрын

I kinda wanna play it. Is there any way to do so now?

@Crackerjack917 3 жыл бұрын

I genuinely hope stories like overkill's the walking dead will inspire higher ups and management to focus on a vision for your game and delay, delay, delay as much as you can to put out a good product. it'll sell guys, dont worry. especially if the game you delayed ends up being really good. workers shouldn't have to suffer and have a botched game hang over the heads for the rest of their careers because you weren't listening to the people making your game.

@issacclark1045 3 жыл бұрын

We can all hope that with Cyberpunk to.

@Roler42 3 жыл бұрын

@@issacclark1045 Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?

@monolitwoods 3 жыл бұрын

Due to Overkills streak of failures over the years, I aint holding my breath for Payday 3

@himynameisaaron86 3 жыл бұрын

One of the best gaming related channels on KZfaq.

@bignose4703 3 жыл бұрын

I bought survival instincts when I was a kid, was so hyped to play it, bought it on ps3 and the intro had a mouse cursor permanently baked into it, i knew it wasn't gonna be good

@charlesman8722 3 жыл бұрын

“Gripping experience”, shoot zombie. Ooooooh fascinating. Hadn’t seen that 500 other times before this point

@Lucios1995 3 жыл бұрын

You really shouldn't use unsilenced guns in non-defense missions, as it will screw the whole team later by overwhelming you with walkers. Weapon silencers last for about two magazines, tops.

@EricMichaelLP 3 жыл бұрын

I remember playing the beta. There was so much potential but none was ever acted upon. Therefore it was just terrible

@720jlconner 3 жыл бұрын

Man i was looking so forward to this game. Starbreeze used to be a kickass dev with butcher bay and the darkness series. Expected a full single player campaign and it turned out to be nothing at all like what they first described when originally shown.

@erenmckenzie9577 Жыл бұрын

I was so excited for the game when I first saw Aiden’s travel when it came out. I didn’t even know the name and forgot all about it bc I heard nothing of it after the trailers. Unfortunately I knew something must of happened.

@SpiderGMan 3 жыл бұрын

It makes me sad that just when the game was starting to get better, they pulled the plug on it. The devs had a whole free season of content with story missions and characters but Skybound wouldnt let them release it. I still havent lost hope on the game.

@ivaartemiev 3 жыл бұрын

Same here dude, they were so close and the game was already getting better Honestly, fuck Skybound. And fuck Bo aswell, his way of managing did not help the situation either.

@drewinsur7321 3 жыл бұрын

i pirated it and played with friends for about a week, when a game is so bad even your hanging out with the bois time cant save it, says a lot about your game lol

@lutherheggs451 3 жыл бұрын

How did you pirate a game that was never released in any state other than betas and early access

@Lucios1995 3 жыл бұрын

@@lutherheggs451 It's available around... you can play it with Splitscreen with NucleusCoop. Online with Parsec AND Nucleus to stream the 2nd screen to someone else. Good internet required.

@drewinsur7321 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lucios1995 we did it with tunngle (or was it hamachi?) i remember the crack was the generic "spacewar" on steam, multiplayer worked nice besides my 450kbps internet at the time. but godamm the fun didnt last long, i think we tried like 6 hours total in the spam of a week, went right back dayz origins.

@drewinsur7321 3 жыл бұрын

@@lutherheggs451 if you go to the torrent site "1337x .to" (put the 'dot' together with the 'x') and just type "the walking dead overkill" it still there with 400+ seeders, and still only 15gb, one of those torrent even comes with the multiplayer stuff ready to install.

@Lucios1995 3 жыл бұрын

@@drewinsur7321 Someone told me of the Spacewar method but my friend I wanted to play it thought it was unsafe

@kyllianpeches2723 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this awesome content

@ytmB4HyU4kUq 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. No other big youtuber that I know of has reviewed or reported on this disaster. This definitely is overdue but very much needed. Telltale games must've cringed so fucking hard when Overkill's game died.

@papabray4703 3 жыл бұрын

I totally forgot this game existed.

@ipellaers 3 жыл бұрын

Overkill is a micro transaction cancer to rival EA, and deserves everything bad coming to em.

@neojenshi4055 3 жыл бұрын

Payday 2?

@jesseomollo9405 3 жыл бұрын

I remember when this game came out I didn't know if it actually released or it was some sort of early access

@The_Spartan_Legend 2 ай бұрын

11:49 Look at their lips: Guy laughing - "I love this game!" Guy to his left - "WHAT THE FUCK?!?"

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

@GVMERS you just spent all that time talking about this game and completely ignored the consumer protection side of this. Well over 100,000 people own Overkills The Walking Dead and paid for season two content and bug fixes that they were never given. Overkill announced that they finished the season two content in June of 2019 but couldn't release the content because of the Skybound gag order. Skybound actively screwed over their customers as a result. No matter how anyone feels about this game... people paid for content that they never received. This is downright theft, in my opinion. How can you possibly fail to mention the most important part of this story?

@Slurpified Ай бұрын

Yeah this is why I think Im going to unsub from him. Every kind of these videos I watch from this guy theres just always something missing like he doesnt hit the nail, fails to mention other important factors, saying what everyone else is already saying, etc. The results are always watered down nostalgia driven videos with the same format. Not much elaboracy or journalism.

@Pellepalt 3 жыл бұрын

It's interesting how skybound followed the development closely and thought it was good at release, but when the reviews came in, it suddenly didnt live up to their standards anymore and had to be removed from steam...

@Lucios1995 3 жыл бұрын

Think Robert didn't want to go to jail with Bo, is all. Still, it's been two years and it's still not back

@DonniePCgames 3 жыл бұрын

The reviews had nothing to do with it. It's because they had a tip that Starbreeze was about to crash financially and they didn't want to be attached to another bankruptcy. Survival Instinct came out and Activision went bankrupt. They didn't get to finish one of the telltale Walking Dead games because of telltale going under. Then this happened. The IP overvalued itself, in my opinion.

@HughTrudden 10 ай бұрын

does anyone know where i can still get it?

@seibertron500 9 ай бұрын

3rd party key sites maybe. but there is now a build going around with the unreleased S2 content

@KouD3Graw 3 жыл бұрын

I remember this game had a GREAT marketing, but the issue is what i assumbed from the advertisements and trailers in the beginning we were getting a single player game telling a intertwined story between 4 characters in the world of walking dead. Especially when it was following up the Telltale games.

@maineman5757 3 жыл бұрын

I can't believe anyone in their right mind trusted Overkill to create an "innovative multiplayer experience". Payday has always just been mediocre and janky with nothing at all innovative.

@lesgoshooping6695 2 жыл бұрын

I love Payday because it feels different from all your run of the mill games. like Call of Duty and such. I also like it because it's a game with lots of replayability and how easy it is to play with friends. I'm excited to get infamy and try out new Skills, New Perk decks and run a new me

@brotherrabbit5525 3 жыл бұрын

I knew this game was going to be garbage by the way they were handling Payday 2.

@reapthewhirlwind6915 3 жыл бұрын

payday 2 can actually be fun though

@ipellaers 3 жыл бұрын

@@reapthewhirlwind6915 Yeah, the uninstaller was quite gratifying.

@brotherrabbit5525 3 жыл бұрын

@@reapthewhirlwind6915 Yeah its a fun game but slow update, bugs, delays and lies ruined it for me. Not sure about the state of the game now. I haven’t touched it in three years.

@reapthewhirlwind6915 3 жыл бұрын

@@brotherrabbit5525 Yeah I never followed the development or anything it's just a good multiplayer heist game, havent really sat down and got into the meat and potatos of the game for 1-2 years, but what i remember is a good gameplay loop with alot of customization but grindy.

@pRaX85815 3 жыл бұрын

A story of two brothers and one of them got too greedy and dragged everyone down with him while the other one might've smelled it and bailed.

@leightonrud66 Жыл бұрын

Imagine it as a zombie payday 2 where instead of attacking banks you raid medical centres, supermarkets, gun stores etc and bag up food/water/meds/weapons whilst fending off swarms of zombies. Stealth options too. Or have something play like dying light but have an open world, with coop missions as a mode where you have progression, skills, classes, cosmetics and have an actually customizable base which zombies sometimes attack. You find blueprints as drops to beefen your defenses. Spike walls of different tiers, turrets, fences, portholes you can shoot out of. Once they're gone, head out and scavenge and complete more missions or coop Honestly love a good zombie game with scavenging, defending, surviving and make you feel like its the end but there's not been any like that. I loved dead island 1 and dying light 1, hope Di2 is good.

@brandonsclips7741 3 жыл бұрын

The payday development team were legit the worst people to do a zombie shooter for considering 1. They can't get atmosphere and story right and 2. The shooting in their games feels like you're drunk and having a stroke at the same time.

@jamespaul6315 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, overkill are ass

@spoike7027 3 жыл бұрын

@@jamespaul6315 I can't believe I played Payday 2 for so many hours

@LatinoJackson 3 жыл бұрын

Another issue is that the Walking Dead franchise is sooooo overplayed now. It's stale and has definitely overstayed its welcome.

@LuffyMcDuck 3 жыл бұрын

When I saw this in my subscription box: Oh yeah, I forgot this existed.

@FaZeElite0212392124x2 8 ай бұрын

I remember seeing alot of trailers around this game. I was so excited that i would rewatch some of the trailers and by the time the game came out it felt depressing. This game taught me something though and that was do not have high expectations from a game so that you won't be dissapointed by the time it release.

@BL4NKio 3 жыл бұрын

So disappointed this game turned out the way it did, you can tell from the initial trailers the game had a lot of potential before it ran into problems with leadership and what not

@lutherheggs451 3 жыл бұрын

what potential...There were ZERO actual gameplay trailers released but a whole hell of alot of garbage cgi trailers that just showed that it was Payday with a Walking Dead skin on it, because clearly they are such mediocre devs they can only make 1 type of game over and over and over again

@Largentina. 3 жыл бұрын

Please expand on this so-called "potential" you speak of.

@TheRustyShackleford 3 жыл бұрын

Loved this game despite it being busted af

@johnnycatt72 3 жыл бұрын

I'm always so amazed that bosses don't see that squeezing too tightly will only make something worse. I can't name a single time it has worked but still they do it and act surprised when it fails

@Jacknife17shadows Жыл бұрын

In my opinion the walking deads success was never about the zombies in a zombie apocalypse but about the people and their interactions in a zombie apocalypse. So the only way a walking dead game would work is by mmorpg. With a direct focus on player communications. In the WD universe the survivors get quite adept at taking out zombies but always get killed by each other. Why I think DayZ is the closest active representation of the WD universe. If they made a game with not forced but optionally cooperative players and ai group interaction that would be cool.

@apierre6 3 жыл бұрын

I was really looking forward to this game when it as announced.

@BoolyK 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't know Steve Zaragoza would make an appearance in this one

@codylamp6814 3 жыл бұрын

Didnt this get released on steam?

@DinsRune 3 жыл бұрын

God, I was so excited for this game. I still wanna play it, honestly, it's not even on steam anymore.

@user-jm8ri8kb4k 2 жыл бұрын

When i first saw the trailers for this game i thought its going to be a story driven singleplayer game exploring the different stories of the characters, something like The Walking Dead Survival Instinct, but it ended up being whatever it is now

@KingstonTV334 3 жыл бұрын

The quality of this channel is syndicated tv level

@ipellaers 3 жыл бұрын

That's an insult. It's well researched, narrated clearly without a hint of ADHD and not drawn out over an hour. Clearly it's way better than syndicated TV.

@elementalramen6792 3 жыл бұрын

2014!? Damn has it really been that long?

@GloomGenetics 2 жыл бұрын

what a tragedy.. i still remember the trailer..

@Soten_Bori Жыл бұрын

This was the first time I had a game where the fucking tutorial felt slower than the beginning of Kingdom Hearts 2 while also being more difficult than the secret bosses in it