哈佛教授傅高義專訪:「中美對抗」、「習鄧比較」與「香港問題」- BBC News 中文

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BBC News 中文

BBC News 中文

4 жыл бұрын

傅高義(Ezra F. Vogel),西方著名中國問題專家,哈佛大學亨利・福特二世社會科學榮休教授,曾任費正清東亞研究中心主任。
有多部關於日本、中國及亞洲研究的著作。其中《日本第一》及《鄧小平時代》在日本、中國及西方暢銷多年,影響廣泛。
2019年底及2020年初,傅高義兩次訪港,期間接受BBC中文訪問,就「中日關係」、「中美對抗」以及「香港示威」等問題發表了自己的看法。
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@zhungbob9906
@zhungbob9906 4 жыл бұрын
傅高义算是个很不错的学者了,邓小平时代我也读过,还是很佩服他的。可惜立场和眼光和意识形态这种东西,不可能完全兼顾,兼听则明吧
@wujingping
@wujingping 3 жыл бұрын
反正他个人没有恶意,意识形态不同,这是肯定的。
@bunbury4620
@bunbury4620 4 жыл бұрын
He's basically saying "if China plays by the rules laid down by the US, the US won't be hostile then"... No shit.
@jimmyjudywu8212
@jimmyjudywu8212 3 жыл бұрын
習鄧比較,時空背景皆有極大差異,無法比較。 鄧在美國極須聯中抗蘇的年代,理解西方領導人,不是重點, 彼時西方視中國為一個抗蘇的朋友。 今日的習,因為理解西方領導人的眞實對中立場, 認為中國是競爭敵手,所謂因瞭解而分開,這才是習的態度。
@user-jyk951
@user-jyk951 3 жыл бұрын
如果國際人士仍然以自我偏執的觀點與保護西方白人地球優勢為目的,那任何說詞都只是掩蓋目的的文語而無濟於世界種族和平。
@user-ej7bt6st3l
@user-ej7bt6st3l 3 жыл бұрын
西方的教授都是玩语境的高手 不经意间就侧面烘托很多不正确却又无法辩论的观点去影响听者。
@nicoh8050
@nicoh8050 3 жыл бұрын
​ if china wants to invade some places…” actually US invaded, and is still invading many places 视频后 我觉得 傅高义 自以为是,,,中国人(黄种人)不可以影响美国 不可以全世界吗。 难道只能是有白人至上? 美国 英国 犹太名族 ??? 亲美 亲欧 亲白人血统能说话。。。。 能看的懂中文的不要做奴隶。
@aidenyao4249
@aidenyao4249 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicoh8050 goddamn right!
@user-jh3od1kk2i
@user-jh3od1kk2i 2 жыл бұрын
究竟谁偏执谁没有科学精神?你的见解是什么?发些偏激的语句还说别人偏激?需要脑白金吗?
@user-em6yi6ek3e
@user-em6yi6ek3e 2 ай бұрын
偏执?你在说你的习大大吗?😂😂
@nihaojxjx
@nihaojxjx 4 жыл бұрын
Throughout the discussion of Xi ’s ruling experience, I would like to ask what other Western leaders have ruling experience? Especially Trump, what experience does he have to lead the country.
@joakgum
@joakgum 4 жыл бұрын
Trump simply doesn't know how to handle the event in Minneapolis and said nothing on it during a press conference.
@LY-uf2bh
@LY-uf2bh 4 жыл бұрын
They’re the same kind of moron
@Kevin509wisdom
@Kevin509wisdom 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's funny.
@lilyloh9375
@lilyloh9375 4 жыл бұрын
Ha..ha..ha...
@hualice5118
@hualice5118 3 жыл бұрын
haha, trump born in america so he doesn’t need ruling experience and can rule the whole world.
@nemartin1
@nemartin1 4 жыл бұрын
"The better they can treat Americans, the better the western views of China will be" 🤣 They just want every country to be their puppy.
@jackchan3988
@jackchan3988 4 жыл бұрын
傅高义也是一条为美国利益服务的狗。。。当美国人随便入侵他国的时候。。。你有个狗屁吗。。虚伪的美国学者。。该杀。。。傅高义也是一条为美国利益服务的狗。。。当美国人随便入侵他国的时候。。。你有个狗屁吗。。虚伪的美国学者。。该杀。。。
@Helen-tz6lu
@Helen-tz6lu 4 жыл бұрын
I think what he said is: be better to treat American JOURNALIST, the better view of China will be reported.
@berrybear2465
@berrybear2465 4 жыл бұрын
Well his allegiance and loyalty is with the US, we must respect that.
@gcpanda2912
@gcpanda2912 4 жыл бұрын
@@Helen-tz6lu I think you must be too simple too naive if you really believe what he says :-)
@user-yr6rs2dp2z
@user-yr6rs2dp2z 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackchan3988 你能说中国话吗
@helenkim7051
@helenkim7051 3 жыл бұрын
Great interview. I agree with everything he's said. More and more experts want to speak correctly and objectively.
@nastyajay70
@nastyajay70 3 жыл бұрын
Helen Kim in ur dreams China will be worse , coz u never been here
@ng6148
@ng6148 2 жыл бұрын
He wasn't right about HK 's movement. He said the reason of the movement bz young people' s hopeless future. I can't believe this was said by him. HK movement's core reason was Chinese government broke their promise of letting HK keep their life style and political systems for 50 years
@user-wq6ov3bg6k
@user-wq6ov3bg6k 2 жыл бұрын
沙币
@ming9253
@ming9253 Жыл бұрын
also, hk's movement is not violent. 'Violence' is an illusion that the CCP and the Hong Kong regime want to show to the outside world, trying to blacken and defame the peaceful nature of the demonstrations.
@user-fr1xh9vq6n
@user-fr1xh9vq6n 3 жыл бұрын
傅高义先生是美国最早一批观察新中国问题的人,是哈佛费正清中国研究中心主任,其著作《邓小平时代》是目前最客观全面的改革开放初期中国的历史,这位大师于2020.12.21去世,其生前促进了中美合作,外交部发言评论傅高义先生是中国人民的老朋友。
@jerrytom8943
@jerrytom8943 4 жыл бұрын
不必去肯定否定什么,因为曾经肯定的人错了,曾经否定的人也错了,历史会证明一切!希望大家安好!身体健康!
@neilbenmc
@neilbenmc 4 жыл бұрын
一句无比正确的废话
@user-lb1ry4yp1z
@user-lb1ry4yp1z 4 жыл бұрын
你高看自己了,因为你啥也肯定不了,也否定不得 因为你啥也不知道,假装有文化?
@user-lb1ry4yp1z
@user-lb1ry4yp1z 4 жыл бұрын
二次病毒又回来,暴雨天象可怕, 还是回墙叫起家人逃命吧,葛洲坝要溃堤了,你逃的越远越好 我可能无处讲真话,但我绝不到处讲假话:我可能为五斗米折腰,但我绝不为不义之财屈膝; 我可能没有勇气做义人,但我绝不出卖和攻击义人;我可能不想追求崇高,但我绝不卑污如蛆; 我可能无力翻越那堵墙,但我绝不撤掉翻墙者的梯子;我可能无法为自由擎火把,但我绝不为奴役唱赞歌。
@sisi-ic4xy
@sisi-ic4xy 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-lb1ry4yp1z 你是每个地方都要复制一段吗🌚
@user-mk7kd1bk5b
@user-mk7kd1bk5b 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-lb1ry4yp1z 那你是谁?你谁也不是。你只是收了钱,复制,黏贴,黏贴,黏贴,黏贴,黏贴,黏贴的狗。
@pinglampinglam1136
@pinglampinglam1136 4 жыл бұрын
This professor still tries to protect American interests, , no talking about both interets. He's imperialism.
@zhangqian6057
@zhangqian6057 4 жыл бұрын
That's what American is.
@mancoleungleung8997
@mancoleungleung8997 4 жыл бұрын
because this is from BBC, BBC only interview those professional that they think are professional
@kenso9
@kenso9 4 жыл бұрын
Ping Lam Ping Lam should this Harford prof protect China CCP interest ??😬🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️
@jackchan3988
@jackchan3988 4 жыл бұрын
傅高义也是一条为美国利益服务的狗。。。当美国人随便入侵他国的时候。。。你有个狗屁吗。。虚伪的美国学者。。该杀。。。傅高义也是一条为美国利益服务的狗。。。当美国人随便入侵他国的时候。。。你有个狗屁吗。。虚伪的美国学者。。该杀。。。
@thoughtmilkwang782
@thoughtmilkwang782 4 жыл бұрын
@@kenso9 how about the interest of China, a country of 1.4 billion people?
@honggangwei5085
@honggangwei5085 3 жыл бұрын
讲的非常透彻客观,做为中国人欢迎这样理性的观点和声音
@shengjon1851
@shengjon1851 3 жыл бұрын
@芝麻 活该台湾进步不了🐸🐸🐸
@qinyin9147
@qinyin9147 3 жыл бұрын
@芝麻 台湾人还在文化大革命时期。太不进步了
@andrew-huang-home
@andrew-huang-home 3 жыл бұрын
《 油管中文时事自媒体大比拼》: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hqqBdNai0NCWeWg.html
@heynotcool741
@heynotcool741 4 жыл бұрын
Been to Shanghai. Love the view of Shanghai it just looks so good at night!
@tanmenghuat7032
@tanmenghuat7032 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say this professor's speech is totally out of date!
@yliang1688
@yliang1688 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@leslie5559
@leslie5559 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@hangmingfu6721
@hangmingfu6721 4 жыл бұрын
Why?Can you tell me?I am Chinese.
@nickname718
@nickname718 4 жыл бұрын
too old idea from an old man
@jsmith2306
@jsmith2306 4 жыл бұрын
the idea from cold war
@hansanhu2756
@hansanhu2756 3 жыл бұрын
研究了一辈子,没研究透中国人的心理
@bin6116
@bin6116 3 жыл бұрын
中国人到现在为止心中仍然有一个天朝大国万邦来朝的梦,换句话说中国人根本没有任何平等的概念,金灿荣对于双赢的解释非常准确地反应了这一点
@user-qf6kv6xt3y
@user-qf6kv6xt3y 3 жыл бұрын
美国担心的是中国崛起会让他失去世界霸主的地位!
@user-qf6kv6xt3y
@user-qf6kv6xt3y 3 жыл бұрын
@@bin6116 你心中不这么想,就不会说出这种话
@surewong9111
@surewong9111 3 жыл бұрын
@@bin6116 人家双赢的解释本来就是开玩笑的,你断章取义
@bin6116
@bin6116 3 жыл бұрын
@@surewong9111 你说你学谁不好,偏学胡叼盘,你可没有他的技术好
@leecarpenter9757
@leecarpenter9757 2 жыл бұрын
多謝你的講述.
@schofieldbruce7101
@schofieldbruce7101 4 жыл бұрын
"is this what good guys will do?" Edward Snowden "have I told you I'm good guy? No one knows “rob and spying” more than me" Donald Trump
@xuebinbu3581
@xuebinbu3581 4 жыл бұрын
After 4 years Americans were suffered more than before
@yaxiongzhao6640
@yaxiongzhao6640 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I always feel awkward when someone who does not really understood China is teaching how to deal with the country... Disaster incoming...
@tangstan1
@tangstan1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your analysis and sharing the political landscape of the past and the present. Unfortunately current leader with limited education and control freak, he finally wakes the whole Western world !
@MrAlexander6666
@MrAlexander6666 3 жыл бұрын
What is the last background track playing?
@matthewbai4389
@matthewbai4389 4 жыл бұрын
“when china is weak, it doesn't matter so much.......”
@wheeldon6084
@wheeldon6084 4 жыл бұрын
They always wanna a weak China…so they can get everything they want.😡
@kakaxifx4913
@kakaxifx4913 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, not much blame of human rights for other contries like India, and not much blame for authority for other contries like Singapore.
@fevergrotham4209
@fevergrotham4209 4 жыл бұрын
it doesn't matter for you but matter for Chinese
@mame947
@mame947 4 жыл бұрын
When a bad guy is weak, it doesn't matter. But now he is strong.
@heinzrichung
@heinzrichung 4 жыл бұрын
stupid ,chinese communists killed chinese people more than 2 times japanese killed chinese in ww2, . but internationally it's also a big threat. the North korea regime that it has been supporting also killed many people, including those who tried to escapefrom North Korea, they were sent back by the communist china to face a certain death or torture.. , how about the red Khmer that the communists had supported, the massacred people require a sorry from the communist China. how about 2003 SARS, they hided the situation inside China (god knows how many mainland chinese died of the virus), and then suddenly it spreaded to Hong Kong without any information from China , killing more than 300 HKer . the communist government doesn't learn from it obviously in the recent wuhan virus outbreak . but the wuhan virus is no match to the chinese communist virus. it makes some mainland Chinese lack any empathy to the victims of chinese communists, such as Liu Xiaobo, HK protestors who became floating naked bodies, Wukan village dead villager, Uyghurs killed and Uyghurs being tortured and sent to concentration camps .
@user-jq4lr1fj3s
@user-jq4lr1fj3s 4 жыл бұрын
国人需要正视问题,不只是看自己所看,听自己所听,也同样要看他人所看,听他人所听。也无需见不到、听不得他人有不同的见解。学会看到问题才能强我中华
@leilou80
@leilou80 4 жыл бұрын
自己开心就好。别想多了。
@buffqiqi3229
@buffqiqi3229 4 жыл бұрын
那你学到了什么 说来听听
@mikelee3825
@mikelee3825 4 жыл бұрын
闭嘴吧 太年轻了你 !这老头比公知还厉害 ,洗脑呢! 黑的说成白的。
@user-sl4eq6wm4y
@user-sl4eq6wm4y 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikelee3825 他说的够客观够中立了好吧!你来说说他把什么黑的说成白的了。
@flag635
@flag635 4 жыл бұрын
youtube少數具質素的留言
@wakinup
@wakinup 2 жыл бұрын
迄今为止最客观的采访,内容也十分的好,学习到好多
@user-li7xp2sx3w
@user-li7xp2sx3w 3 жыл бұрын
美国手脚伸张全世界,四处打仗,这老头只字不提啊。
@crazyameba
@crazyameba 3 жыл бұрын
他提了也会被剪掉,比如开始说的美国在中国领海周边布防,一个设问句没有展开就结束了,事实上很可能谈了很多。
@user-li7xp2sx3w
@user-li7xp2sx3w 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazyameba 这就是言论自由吗,你尽管说,我可以让别人听不见
@crazyameba
@crazyameba 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-li7xp2sx3w 著名的中立媒体据我所知全世界不超过三个。很无奈。
@tyutyu3604
@tyutyu3604 3 жыл бұрын
看不看到標題?「中美對抗」、「習鄧比較」與「香港問題」 小學老師有教你看題作答? 想看你想說的問題很多書籍和外國視頻也有,做人不要那麼狹窄
@lonsoa214
@lonsoa214 3 жыл бұрын
@@tyutyu3604 哦,你文化很高? 几料的博士啊?在这装尼玛呢,还看题作答,我看你就只记得小学的文化吧,心胸狭隘的人,看见别人反驳,还教育别人心胸狭隘? 你躺床上好好想想自己有多恶心吧。
@dandongxu923
@dandongxu923 4 жыл бұрын
公平冷静的分析让人更加容易理解问题所在,和推测未来的发展趋势。
@jan3751
@jan3751 4 жыл бұрын
dandong Xu 此老全是欧美媒体报道的採摘,无自己研究发现,好在哪里?
@user-wh4hc1cv1g
@user-wh4hc1cv1g 4 жыл бұрын
好好发现一下,切尔诺贝利和美国新冠的应对吧,你会发现问题所在
@mackelzhang8398
@mackelzhang8398 4 жыл бұрын
同意
@user-jx9lp9wh5u
@user-jx9lp9wh5u 4 жыл бұрын
说半天就一个问题,美国当老大太久了,不习惯有国家和它平起平坐。其它都是扯蛋。
@user-me9vm1kx3l
@user-me9vm1kx3l 4 жыл бұрын
面对歧视与威胁,这里是全国皆兵
@oliverxmen5873
@oliverxmen5873 4 жыл бұрын
别说这么多了,赶紧打一仗
@zhaochengwan8590
@zhaochengwan8590 4 жыл бұрын
精辟
@biaofan5979
@biaofan5979 4 жыл бұрын
美国必须学会在国际问题上更加尊重其他国家的意见,不能再一味地以“普世价值”要求全世界的人,他们应该认识到,人类社会的发现道路与形式不是只有美国一种标准
@edmondho7404
@edmondho7404 3 жыл бұрын
Basically he says nothing scholarly in this video.
@jackc.3285
@jackc.3285 3 жыл бұрын
such as?
@judyj.x3977
@judyj.x3977 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackc.3285 Such as 1. He said foreign journalists were maltreated by China government so they condemned and criticized it in their post. I want to roll my eyes .... 2. Young people in China generally dislike Japan... basically wrong, we know what is the different between history and nowadays 3. Xi has no experience in working in Beijing... Dose he really know Xi was a Vice President before, and the meaning of Vice President in China? The job takes how many years in Beijing? And so on.... just to name a few....
@ginlunglim7941
@ginlunglim7941 3 жыл бұрын
Why show edited video? BBC can u please show full interview video?
@mayzoey9743
@mayzoey9743 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, hope to see more similar interviews!
@georgelee7884
@georgelee7884 4 жыл бұрын
It's hard to see a rational comment like this here. It shows that you have an open mind and unbiased judgement.
@user-gp9qe7up7s
@user-gp9qe7up7s 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgelee7884 We watch CCTV together.
@johnsonlee9797
@johnsonlee9797 Жыл бұрын
The BBC is a stronghold of rumors. The Xinjiang and Hong Kong issues are all rumored by US and British intelligence agencies, making Americans hate China and deceiving Americans. It is China that has taken jobs from Americans. The main reason is that they are afraid that China will become stronger.
@samueltang6220
@samueltang6220 4 жыл бұрын
就一句话,中国得一直怂着
@greatvanchang5289
@greatvanchang5289 4 жыл бұрын
好怕怕哦!
@huangshuliu3548
@huangshuliu3548 4 жыл бұрын
Great Van Chang 楼主才是大智慧~然而美国想掐断你脖子就掐断,从华为事件就能看出来。还是需要养精蓄锐,不要觉得自己行了,然并卵~没有疫情19年国内经济好么?经济好,国内过上好日子比什么都强。
@user-lb1ry4yp1z
@user-lb1ry4yp1z 4 жыл бұрын
这就是区别--人与人的命,自己就划清了 奴隶就是一条奴隶命嚒?我开始信了,难怪他们世世代代做奴隶,不敢抬头 我可能无处讲真话,但我绝不到处讲假话:我可能为五斗米折腰,但我绝不为不义之财屈膝; 我可能没有勇气做义人,但我绝不出卖和攻击义人;我可能不想追求崇高,但我绝不卑污如蛆; 我可能无力翻越那堵墙,但我绝不撤掉翻墙者的梯子;我可能无法为自由擎火把,但我绝不为奴役唱赞歌。 因为我想做一个“人”,而不是任人宰割铲除的奴隶和蛆虫
@user-lb1ry4yp1z
@user-lb1ry4yp1z 4 жыл бұрын
阳痿的男人,他倒是想硬,做梦都想硬....
@vincebrook9505
@vincebrook9505 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-lb1ry4yp1z 不会的华夏民族民族一直都有民族凝聚力,之所以内部不统一团结,是少数家族及其爪牙为了少数人的利益出卖了自强不息的中华。
@99AiZiYou
@99AiZiYou 3 жыл бұрын
不知道哪里可以看到完整版访谈
@yousayblyat
@yousayblyat 3 жыл бұрын
"中美對抗",但是对美国只字不提。
@giannigianni1457
@giannigianni1457 3 жыл бұрын
哪个中国专家谈过中美对抗中国的问题?
@user-om2ck8tl9v
@user-om2ck8tl9v 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qN17a66ix9qlhWQ.html
@bourne3852
@bourne3852 3 жыл бұрын
@@giannigianni1457 对抗尼玛的黑笔,全尼玛是美国在打压中国,中国一直都是防守
@yousayblyat
@yousayblyat 3 жыл бұрын
@@bourne3852 一直好奇在BBC中文工作的都是怎样的一群人,带节奏永远冲在最前线。
@rockykong4110
@rockykong4110 3 жыл бұрын
普bourne 要不要脸?
@xingyulu735
@xingyulu735 4 жыл бұрын
傅高義:虽然美国在世界各地传播战争和分裂,但是中国居然在填海造陆,造成地缘政治风险,我表示担忧。习是红二代,政治经验不足,只在河北,福建和其他地区工作过(我只能说其他地区,不能说浙江上海,不然配上窑洞的照片没有说服力),没有在北京工作过,这是硬伤啊。虽然特朗普富二代出生,没有政治经验,但是问题不大,美国有最好的制度。香港问题就是房租太高,大陆人把香港人的工作给抢了,和外国势力培训分裂活动,提供策划和资金的影响不大。大陆要让港独和平示威,保护他们的人权。什么?英港时期连游行的权利都没有,现在是一国两制,你得解决学生的问题。我是哈佛教授,我说的话没有偏见。:)
@user-if7gq9vu8x
@user-if7gq9vu8x 4 жыл бұрын
什麼教授,community college?英治時期沒有遊行權利?當年保衛釣魚台運動知道嗎?
@chunchuanlv3211
@chunchuanlv3211 4 жыл бұрын
河北,福建和其他地区 真的是坐实了 这个人就是良知有问题,而不是无知。
@wzhang4870
@wzhang4870 4 жыл бұрын
垃圾教授,地摊文学的水平
@Elocess
@Elocess 4 жыл бұрын
Oh US has "no problem" if the issue on Taiwan can be solved peacefully?
@jackchan3988
@jackchan3988 4 жыл бұрын
傅高义也是一条为美国利益服务的狗。。。当美国人随便入侵他国的时候。。。你有个狗屁吗。。虚伪的美国学者。。该杀。。。傅高义也是一条为美国利益服务的狗。。。当美国人随便入侵他国的时候。。。你有个狗屁吗。。虚伪的美国学者。。该杀。。。
@marksoon6839
@marksoon6839 4 жыл бұрын
Native
@jinchai8583
@jinchai8583 2 жыл бұрын
老教授 讲的基本没毛病 点赞! 共产党像在走钢丝 ,处理不好国内的矛盾 ,老百姓不会饶恕的。 加油 为了幸福生活
@user-iu4do1tx8b
@user-iu4do1tx8b 2 жыл бұрын
What the old man said is very objective, but any country and region faces many problems. Under the current circumstances, the rise of China is inevitable.
@sccheung6375
@sccheung6375 3 жыл бұрын
He tried to portray Xi as an unfriendly, aggressive, horrifying leader while Deng was open and western-friendly. He helps justify that China itself is the main reason for the tension. I am shocked that a renowned scholar concluded Chinese leaders in such a simple and inaccurate way.
@user-ly4yt5vd7v
@user-ly4yt5vd7v 3 жыл бұрын
Xi is friendly because he's a cute little bear.
@lijingch
@lijingch 4 жыл бұрын
当年前苏联让中国当它粮仓被中国拒绝了,现在美国让中国老老实实生产衬衣,玩具,皮鞋同样被中国拒绝。
@ben_8375
@ben_8375 4 жыл бұрын
他坚持的政治正确:共产党要维护西方人的利益,当发生利益冲突时,要懂得退让。 中国不能强大,更不能威胁西方,一旦强大,一定会侵害到他们的利益。 要继续与周边国家保持冲突,没有冲突,西方国家也会积极创造条件来制造混乱。 见识了西方人的傲慢与偏见,毫无道德底线,够厚颜无耻。
@yooo692
@yooo692 4 жыл бұрын
这个世界需要更多合作,一味对抗是没有好结果的。
@liulingqi0
@liulingqi0 4 жыл бұрын
@@yooo692 以斗争求和平,则和平存;以妥协求和平,则和平亡。
@abelwong8335
@abelwong8335 3 жыл бұрын
Is this Harvard level?
@wingcwan
@wingcwan 3 жыл бұрын
21:54 yes we knew the way on 35/5 30 years ago, is that included in prof Vogel study? haha
@piercejiang6602
@piercejiang6602 3 жыл бұрын
he is just wasting the fund the college gave to him, as his study is full of shit and so pointless. He knows shit about China.
@mengfeiz
@mengfeiz 4 жыл бұрын
He is honestly telling the truth, specially the part of comparing Xi with Deng
@johnsonlee9797
@johnsonlee9797 Жыл бұрын
The BBC is a stronghold of rumors. The Xinjiang and Hong Kong issues are all rumored by US and British intelligence agencies, making Americans hate China and deceiving Americans. It is China that has taken jobs from Americans. The main reason is that they are afraid that China will become stronger.
@skyekittilson8110
@skyekittilson8110 3 жыл бұрын
A totally Eurocentric “analysis” with condescending biases. Just because Deng had studied in the west for several years that became the reason why he qualified and did well on governing? Overall his entire argument is based on twisted, incomplete and non-evidential presumptions. Very disappointed.
@graceyang1474
@graceyang1474 3 жыл бұрын
actually,Xi did worst on governing because he is pupil
@ChristopherLeeSJ
@ChristopherLeeSJ 3 жыл бұрын
Would you prefer a biased Sinocentric analysis?
@skyekittilson8110
@skyekittilson8110 3 жыл бұрын
Christopher Lee are you telling me these are the only two voices you can get? If that I feel sorry for you 🤨
@shadybanksjack697
@shadybanksjack697 3 жыл бұрын
@@skyekittilson8110 no but please enlighten us with an unbiased non-eurocentric "analysis".
@ew1902
@ew1902 3 жыл бұрын
the point is, imo, Deng can give better impression and make ppl understand him&China well when dealing with foreign leaders. And yes, that's related to his experience of abroad study.
@user-gv3zc4yj4k
@user-gv3zc4yj4k 3 жыл бұрын
说到习的时候背景音乐变得严肃,到川普就变的逗比
@user-qd9cq1dj6s
@user-qd9cq1dj6s 3 жыл бұрын
給你臉呢,不然讓你們發現自己連小學畢業的主子都不如,你會自暴自棄一輩子不想做人
@chen8802
@chen8802 2 жыл бұрын
正确客观的对待与评价,上理性的分析值得一听
@eugeniewong1
@eugeniewong1 4 жыл бұрын
When he said the protests in 2019 are due to economic problem in hk, I’d say he made a wrong diagnosis of the whole thing.
@vivifong100
@vivifong100 4 жыл бұрын
He did not understand the reason
@lesterchang3730
@lesterchang3730 4 жыл бұрын
Because you have no idea of the 'Historical Materialism' of Marxism: 'The superstructure is ultimately an expression of the mode of production on which the society is founded'.
@YY-kk6db
@YY-kk6db 4 жыл бұрын
这期节目非常不错,傅高义教授果然还是懂东方社会的,不像一些西方学者只知道胡喷
@user-pb7oj3tv4g
@user-pb7oj3tv4g 4 жыл бұрын
美国记者那节完全是扯淡 操作层面各国政府往往利用独家新闻“贿赂”记者换正面报道,但是关于中国的正面报道是不允许被登上版面的,就像亲中的KZfaqr会被禁言下架一样🤷🤷🤷
@chriskwan7559
@chriskwan7559 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-pb7oj3tv4g 懂哥来辣
@he9142
@he9142 4 жыл бұрын
这位算是泰斗级别的学者了,也不能要求他们每个人都有这个水平,哈哈
@kennywu5183
@kennywu5183 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Kwan 懂哥来了?
@zhanshi9205
@zhanshi9205 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-pb7oj3tv4g 你好像纽约时报华盛顿邮报副总编 啥你都门清是吧? 什么细节你都清楚 怎么让正面报道下架的你全看着了
@yangzhao1860
@yangzhao1860 3 жыл бұрын
很棒的中国通专家,拜读过大作《邓小平时代》,很赞
@zhanghenry5298
@zhanghenry5298 3 жыл бұрын
是的,很不错。这里回帖的好多个五毛和美分真的是够了,非黑即白的。
@houjam1373
@houjam1373 3 жыл бұрын
@@zhanghenry5298 我一个小粉红都觉得老人家讲的很好🤣
@zhanghenry5298
@zhanghenry5298 3 жыл бұрын
@@houjam1373 说明你听得进去实话、他赞中共的话也挺多;可很多人只喜欢赞美、批评都认为是污蔑、是轮子等等
@leoimperator2318
@leoimperator2318 3 жыл бұрын
In general, this expert on Chinese issues is just saying: China's problems with the West can be solved as long as China stops to be China. And he is also very well aware that China is getting stronger and stronger so it will never stop to be itself....What's the point of your suggestions then? I wonder how he raised fundings with the quality of policy suggestions like these.
@user-pr9vi4ze4j
@user-pr9vi4ze4j 4 жыл бұрын
When the US became independent, That was what the UK said to the US at the time. Britain has a great sense of superiority and treats the United States like an aristocratic attitude towards civilians. However, it was not until the War of 1812 that the US achieved independent status. Britain can only helplessly accept the existence of the US. In the US today, it is necessary to start accepting the rise of the Chinese as the British accept the rise of the Americans. This is the law of history. The British Empire will decline, and the US will decline.
@gghdkkliam3390
@gghdkkliam3390 4 жыл бұрын
A country ruled by a puppet regime can’t perpetuate let alone there is a despotic leader implementing idiotic diplomatic policy Communist party shall fall and in the aftermath of it’s fall China would rise again
@user-pr9vi4ze4j
@user-pr9vi4ze4j 4 жыл бұрын
@@gghdkkliam3390 The Communist Party has led the Chinese people to prosperity. If you understand Chinese history, hundreds of political parties in China have not been able to do so since 1840, so your view is not valid I am not arguing with you, but what is happening in reality, even if you individually curse a country with a huge population of 1.4 billion, you will know that your opinion is not so important.
@user-bz1jt7pd2x
@user-bz1jt7pd2x 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-pr9vi4ze4j 很了不起的样子,也就清朝 军阀 国民党 共产党这四个时期,何来几百个政党?说富裕,周边相似民族特性的韩国 日本 台湾哪个不比中国富?14亿人口960万土地的确挺强,全国的大部分财富和大公司多数都在共产党手上,哪个国家不怕这样的国家。糟糕的外交政策,宣扬民族精神,大国崛起,民族自豪感,没了老一辈领导人的务实低调。
@user-mj3wz8xd8q
@user-mj3wz8xd8q Жыл бұрын
@@user-bz1jt7pd2x 然而,韩国日本和台湾都丧失了一样东西,那就是国家的主权,他们成为了美国的附庸。身为中国人应该更加自信,中国会变得更好!对共产党不满可以理解,但不能全盘否定它。你觉得用美国民主中国会更好吗?还是你觉得美国希望看到一个比现在更强大的中国呢,美国人找出中国社会矛盾是为了让中国变得更好吗?这对美国有好处还是美国人有善良的菩萨心肠?我觉得共产党不算这世上最坏的政党,如果你生活在印度也许有更多你看不惯的事,但美国和西方没那么关注印度的丑闻,你也知道这是为什么吧
@user-bz1jt7pd2x
@user-bz1jt7pd2x Жыл бұрын
@@user-mj3wz8xd8q 日本韩国附庸啥了?怎样附庸法?赚的钱给美国了?领导人是美国人?韩国日本没觉得被侵犯,你倒是自作多情可怜起别人。他们某些地方可能要妥协,但是他们价值观是一样的,互惠互助,美国更像是他们的大哥,而不是主人。看看北朝鲜多有骨气,苏联和中国的小弟,活得个清贫,人民给金胖子做奴隶。
@user-bo9lv3qx2m
@user-bo9lv3qx2m 4 жыл бұрын
“中国正在变得强大,我们很担忧他会做我们现在做的事情,侵略别国,干预他国内政,抢夺资源这些事情,只有我们可以做,他也想要,就太可怕了”
@user-dc4fp1zh5b
@user-dc4fp1zh5b 4 жыл бұрын
典型的强盗逻辑
@skyfucker1955
@skyfucker1955 4 жыл бұрын
以小人之心度君子之腹莫过于此
@kittyyodatv1432
@kittyyodatv1432 4 жыл бұрын
阿智 他们当老大了 不得像我欺负她一样欺负我啊
@MrHkl8324
@MrHkl8324 4 жыл бұрын
不。分別是美國侵略别国,干预他国内政,世界活在二戰後歐美沒甚麼大問題。換一個領頭國家看看﹖就不知道結果怎樣了。
@MrHkl8324
@MrHkl8324 4 жыл бұрын
其實有甚麼問題﹖中國人不是最相信弱肉強食嗎﹖美國就擺著要把你攪死。有甚麼問題﹖你中國就像個嬰兒哭吧。
@issac_hu2000
@issac_hu2000 3 жыл бұрын
為什麼這裡有這麼多成都的clip
@anguschoi9122
@anguschoi9122 2 жыл бұрын
傅高義說得好!
@Yan-ww2gd
@Yan-ww2gd 4 жыл бұрын
2 Questions: What China will do to the world when they are stronger? What the US have done to the world when they are strong.
@thankqwerty
@thankqwerty 4 жыл бұрын
Another question: What China is doing to her own people now?
@revermak8797
@revermak8797 4 жыл бұрын
thankqwerty lmao nothing. Their own people are happy with their government it’s only foreigners like you who has nothing better to do cares
@Yan-ww2gd
@Yan-ww2gd 4 жыл бұрын
@@thankqwerty thankqwert for you concern about China but no thanks. Mind your own business.
@rayjoo1735
@rayjoo1735 4 жыл бұрын
Yan8527 When China become stronger ,the world gonna be a Socialism world....There’s no freedom and human rights anymore
@Yan-ww2gd
@Yan-ww2gd 4 жыл бұрын
@@rayjoo1735 So you are just repeating the mainstream media told you. Those who mistakenly believe that they have freedom are the most hopeless slaves. where is the WMD in iraq? Guantanamo Bay. Drone murder.White helmets.Ukrainian coup.PRISM.Police violence. you name it.
@DZranger
@DZranger 4 жыл бұрын
“China is rising and strong” - that’s the key point.
@rosylau6531
@rosylau6531 4 жыл бұрын
have u read all of his speech? Can u show some respect instead of acting like a dumb?
@DZranger
@DZranger 4 жыл бұрын
Rosy Lau I did finish and nothing new in his speech. I will pay attention for the words I use.
@jackchan3988
@jackchan3988 4 жыл бұрын
傅高义也是一条为美国利益服务的狗。。。当美国人随便入侵他国的时候。。。你有个狗屁吗。。虚伪的美国学者。。该杀。。。傅高义也是一条为美国利益服务的狗。。。当美国人随便入侵他国的时候。。。你有个狗屁吗。。虚伪的美国学者。。该杀。。。
@sgfthank
@sgfthank 4 жыл бұрын
中共从1978年改革开放加入WTO就从来没有遵守规则,不尊重知识产权,偷盗技术,市场不开放,贸易逆差太严重,这种情况在朱镕基时代的韬光养晦还能暂时忽悠欧美国家。但问题是迟早要爆发的。 到了习近平的大国崛起,中国制造2025,一代一路,南海问题,就把问题加速化了。 所以问题是迟早要爆发的,习近平只是提早把遮羞布掀开了。 同时要问一个问题,中国真的强大了吗? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nq2WZqVj2peam4k.html&feature=emb_logo
@jackchan3988
@jackchan3988 4 жыл бұрын
@@sgfthank 你个傻逼。。去看看你的美国爸爸多尊重人权吧。。你脑子满是屎尿吗
@pulldownthewall1569
@pulldownthewall1569 3 жыл бұрын
评价相当到位。
@harbin88
@harbin88 3 жыл бұрын
Very good understanding of the issues👍👏
@user-ss9nk1qu4q
@user-ss9nk1qu4q 4 жыл бұрын
中国人难道对老美还不够好吗?!?你们的记者常常写的又是什么?从来说句实话,中国人对白人是比较有好感的,难道您感觉不到?
@sandynorman3643
@sandynorman3643 4 жыл бұрын
那又怎樣呢?需要別人的時候假裝友好,一旦得逞過河拆橋
@specialoperator-0543
@specialoperator-0543 4 жыл бұрын
对,你永远都理解不了,某国的记者想写啥写啥的感觉,中国人问的永远不是如何解决问题,而是为什么有人提问题,为什么记者要说这些,为什么你们要反对我们,为什么你们什么都说
@jiongweiliu2594
@jiongweiliu2594 4 жыл бұрын
@@specialoperator-0543 你又能代表中国人了。某国的记者就该想写啥写啥,中国人就该听着,然后人家说什么,就去做什么。某些总想代表中国人的人,从来不去想什么才是对中国人好的,正确的事情。总以为自己看到了民族的劣根性,其实不知道自己才是那个劣根。 顺带说一句,无数事实都能够说明,中国人不仅在不断探求问题,更在解决问题。
@edwardso8903
@edwardso8903 4 жыл бұрын
911 時中國人不是拍手歡呼嗎?還是我記錯了😂
@Nron-ni4gj
@Nron-ni4gj 4 жыл бұрын
@@edwardso8903 嗯,反恐就是万能令。 穆斯林确实部分人比较极端,我也认为他们不应该这样。 但问题是他们为什么要采取这种极端的手段?就跟前几天警察压死黑人,被黑人放火烧警察局一样,黑人为什么要这么做。 如果没有什么事把你逼成那样,你会去做那么极端的事情吗? 假如没有警察谋杀黑人,黑人会做极端的事吗? 一个巴掌拍不响,某些穆斯林那么极端,你也得想想为什么。
@Calvin4016
@Calvin4016 4 жыл бұрын
Wasted 20mins of my life
@Nron-ni4gj
@Nron-ni4gj 4 жыл бұрын
我也在美国学过政治,到现在我还是觉得那门课让我受益匪浅。 但是这种东西,20分钟看下来,屁都没学到,我都不知道我刚看了什么。
@miko8956
@miko8956 Жыл бұрын
Thank you BBC . 🙇🙇 👍👍👍💪💪💪👏👏👏⛽⛽⛽⛽ .
@una1975
@una1975 3 жыл бұрын
Same old cliche, can't believe Harvard waste their funds on these "experts"
@kaitoshinichi
@kaitoshinichi 3 жыл бұрын
Well they are far more knowledgeable in the subject than any from China. The citizens of China didn't even know the proper history of their own country because the ccp skewed it so horribly.
@markhong3762
@markhong3762 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaitoshinichi I think you are in the dream!
@grabpiece661
@grabpiece661 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaitoshinichi oh please!! Enlighten Us!!! Jesus sent from Trumpven
@user-qt8tj3oo1b
@user-qt8tj3oo1b 3 жыл бұрын
They will fund anyone as long as those people are fit in with their political agenda. BBC is extremely biased, they are really BPC.
@jbb2660
@jbb2660 3 жыл бұрын
Ezra Vogel used to be a very insightful and a leading scholar in east asian studies in the West, a pioneer even, that is - in the old Deng era and 4 east asian tigers days. He seems to be recycling the materials abit here and have not updated his insights with time, anchoring and forming his views more based from the last era.
@honglizhang9229
@honglizhang9229 4 жыл бұрын
如果把老先生的话美国和中国对调一下试试,会很有意思。
@sangtsang7936
@sangtsang7936 4 жыл бұрын
如果這编演説中美对調那就不是事實了,以今時今日中共的氣焰來看,中共早已經指點天下了,絕不會意圖和平相處了。
@Sam642009
@Sam642009 4 жыл бұрын
Sang Tsang 習近平這小學生膨脹了
@MGMG-ym6rk
@MGMG-ym6rk 4 жыл бұрын
对调一下就放不出来了,呵呵
@user-tr8yv5fm4b
@user-tr8yv5fm4b 4 жыл бұрын
Sang Tsang 指点天下不知道,但是美国发动的战争手指脚趾加起来不够数是真实发生的事。为什么不见你们去让美国反思呢
@XX-cm3mf
@XX-cm3mf 4 жыл бұрын
@@MGMG-ym6rk 对调一下,BBC就不会让他露脸,也不会上传影片
@feihu6094
@feihu6094 4 жыл бұрын
He used to hold the most prestigious position in the US. Even he has such a biased perspective on China, what can you expect for all others... World-renowned double standards and hypocrisy
@MrHkl8324
@MrHkl8324 4 жыл бұрын
CCP is the new Nazi. You are the one who is biased.
@kninja6236
@kninja6236 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrHkl8324 I CANT BREATH..... who is the new Nazi in comparison
@gghdkkliam3390
@gghdkkliam3390 4 жыл бұрын
K Ninja Maybe ask those died from great Chinese famine and the cultural revolution
@vincentfang5639
@vincentfang5639 3 жыл бұрын
@@gghdkkliam3390 If you would like to recall history, let's go a little further to WW2 and Siege of the International Legations. How many local civilian died due to Japan, UK and US?
@user-fl4pw1tz5x
@user-fl4pw1tz5x 3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@user-tn2my8df3v
@user-tn2my8df3v Жыл бұрын
非常的客观!
@qqpol
@qqpol 2 жыл бұрын
现在的革命小将听不明白正常分析了。只要有一点点不合心意的表达,就怒气冲冲。Vogel已经是非常平和与善意的理解中国,小将们有没有稍微做些努力去理解不同的观点。在他们眼里中国没有任何缺点,全是他人的错。这个趋势让人担心。
@user-nu4lq6hh2l
@user-nu4lq6hh2l 4 жыл бұрын
无可否认 男人一生至死都不断犯的错误就是 自以为是 无一人例外
@bowinwon720
@bowinwon720 4 жыл бұрын
包括习大大?
@jjzhu77
@jjzhu77 4 жыл бұрын
真是不分国籍种族的无一例外
@FreedumbSauceFriedFrogs
@FreedumbSauceFriedFrogs 4 жыл бұрын
In the meantime… the US left WHO 🤔
@BrianRGioia
@BrianRGioia 3 жыл бұрын
Because WHO found to be favoring China narrative over the truth. 🤔
@jamesguo4510
@jamesguo4510 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that ain’t true. It’s Trump need someone to blame to cover all his failures about COVID-19 and WHO is speaking the truth
@user-mm4yj9ni9t
@user-mm4yj9ni9t 3 жыл бұрын
看过傅先生写的邓小平时代写的很客观是外国政治家少有了解中国的一位学者
@user-um4kj7lo6y
@user-um4kj7lo6y 3 жыл бұрын
都说新疆集中营了,您还在这客观呢,您还反思自己呢?贱不贱啊?
@user-pn9kc6tt9s
@user-pn9kc6tt9s 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-um4kj7lo6y 没必要非黑即白,邓小平时代写得确实很好,很全面,如果想了解邓,确实是本好书。
@jackc.3285
@jackc.3285 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-um4kj7lo6y 不贱,自己想想自己客不客观
@treesmith5914
@treesmith5914 3 жыл бұрын
​@@user-um4kj7lo6y 并不是说不好听的都是假的,好的也要听,坏的也要听,它集中营我感觉程度没有那么大,或者可以叫改造营(看其它视频了解的,人数没那么多),两者性质不一样。比如中国有家医院给人挖器官买,人还能治,故意不治,哪个省我忘了,你百度能搜到,上新闻了。
@user-hx5dg8xh5d
@user-hx5dg8xh5d 3 жыл бұрын
搁那瞎扯什么东西?新疆本地人都没见过集中营,好家伙让你们看见了?做梦看见的吧,自己看看那些集中营的照片,还他么有学校,你是上个学都在被改造是吧,原始人吗?
@enzema7280
@enzema7280 3 жыл бұрын
我觉得老先生讲的挺好的,挺客观地,大家不要因为中间一些片段断章取义地理解
@andpracticethinking3978
@andpracticethinking3978 3 жыл бұрын
屁股决定脑袋
@winiy678
@winiy678 4 жыл бұрын
他说的香港问题部分不对,这些示威不是因为抱怨高房价和没工作,是制度、法治、意识形态和价值观等问题。先看看他们的五大诉求,还有对于高度自治、双普选等诉求,对打压言论自由和新闻自由以及不公正的执法等等的抗拒
@ton7576
@ton7576 4 жыл бұрын
+1 , 不一會兒有小粉紅攻擊我
@cairz5360
@cairz5360 4 жыл бұрын
不一定,即使我确实不喜欢他们做出的恐怖行为和破坏行为,但造成这种情况的一种客观原因也是现在香港的阶层固化,高房价工作等等经济原因。
@user-gc3rm1fx5i
@user-gc3rm1fx5i 4 жыл бұрын
社会矛盾肯定是引导性因素,再加上某些势力引导。就像美国一些州游行要求解除隔离,你看着很反智,觉得美国人脑残。但是本质是这些人没工作没收入,而且储蓄率又低,饿死和概率病死,必然是选后者,当然这种大规模一致性的游行肯定是有势力从中引导,川普都在推特喊话支持游行
@YES-ok9dv
@YES-ok9dv 4 жыл бұрын
个人感觉主要还是优越感不在了,本来你一直踩在别人头上的,这些年却被别人踩着,之前香港人一直看不起大陆人,台湾人,感觉自己是高级华人🍒再加上这些年的鸭梨山大🍐
@ddhanabi5873
@ddhanabi5873 4 жыл бұрын
虽然我不是香港人 但是也应该有房价的因素吧 房价过高 人们生活质量低 就产生对港府及中共的不满 出现一个导火索 就马上被引爆了
@user-dp4oj1hy2y
@user-dp4oj1hy2y 4 жыл бұрын
說道中國GDP超越日本一事,我好像在傅高義的另外一個視頻中是反著說的, 他說日本1895年以來一直領先中國,現在被超越,日本人心理有點失衡。 本視頻中傅高義則說中國人超越日本,心理過於膨脹。 或許正反都對吧。
@joele1445
@joele1445 4 жыл бұрын
人均GDP比較符合民情吧 日本人均是中國的10倍
@nevermind8084
@nevermind8084 4 жыл бұрын
一个飘了一个心态崩了 没毛病啊
@user-cr9mi3fi8k
@user-cr9mi3fi8k 4 жыл бұрын
@@joele1445 你在逗我,你看过资料嘛,你有脑子嘛?
@aoitori7485
@aoitori7485 4 жыл бұрын
@@joele1445 你活在10年前吗?
@magnustownsend1962
@magnustownsend1962 4 жыл бұрын
@@joele1445 吃个西瓜得按小片买的垃圾人均
@jims3532
@jims3532 3 жыл бұрын
日本從不正面回應對亞洲國家的傷害,這是一個問題。
@user-kj7tb4yp6h
@user-kj7tb4yp6h 3 жыл бұрын
@中立观察者 不对吧 这样说来英国 德国 美国都没必要存在了尤其是美国近两百年才完成白人对印第安人的侵虐和种族灭绝。
@user-fw7ci5uo9y
@user-fw7ci5uo9y 3 жыл бұрын
感觉虽然说的很平和,不过还是没有逃脱人的劣根性,他只看到了他想要看到的,并且加上了自己的臆想
@Aska-oe1dy
@Aska-oe1dy 3 жыл бұрын
比起中國的戰螂外交官 整天說鬼話 好太多了. 外國學者說話都是基於資訊. 中共說的任何話都是基於政治正確. 中國已經是垃圾中的垃圾了.
@andasain2832
@andasain2832 3 жыл бұрын
你也没有摆脱作为无知韭菜的劣根性
@guotan7023
@guotan7023 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aska-oe1dy 确实,根本不配称做人,天天说假话,还说的不利索。念个稿子都磕磕巴巴,都退化成智障了
@fang-ZY
@fang-ZY 3 жыл бұрын
单看你这句话,中学生的水平。说话平和与人的劣根性没有必然的联系,你却是在臆想他只看了他想要看到的。所以要评价一个学者,要么你达到他level,要么你至少读过他的书。
@atm-gt9ul
@atm-gt9ul 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aska-oe1dy 是的啊,看看现在尾角爸爸忽悠黑人的鬼话,什么时候你也过去你尾角爸爸那边黑命贵抗议一下,感受一下自由国家的子弹和毒打?
@neilguan6479
@neilguan6479 3 жыл бұрын
Why are there many reporters who have no complaint in China , only American reporters feel unfair ?
@juliann2945
@juliann2945 3 жыл бұрын
Biases, double standards, hypocrisy, manipulation, American hegemony....you name it
@wesleywlhu
@wesleywlhu 4 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that he’s relatively neutral, so worth thinking through his points. End of the day, really hope it is a better world out there, not worse :/
@adamlc1287
@adamlc1287 3 жыл бұрын
He means “ Our police can use guns in USA but I need to blame you using spontoon . USA can send Army to another country but I need to blame you using your army in your country. We can earn money from you but your Economy cannot over me. How fair he said
@woodywalter6690
@woodywalter6690 3 жыл бұрын
He just mentioned right at the beginning that the trade surplus made on China side will finally create conflicts on countries’ relationship. I hope it’s not as complicated as you through.
@MM-ee2pv
@MM-ee2pv 3 жыл бұрын
非常客观。。说的很好。
@shanyun7682
@shanyun7682 3 жыл бұрын
客观个屁,美国中扮演的角色,美国的罪恶超做一点不提,也客观。?
@mewe9466
@mewe9466 4 жыл бұрын
the world needs to learn how to get along with a stronger China instead of getting all bitter and jealous.
@jackchan3988
@jackchan3988 4 жыл бұрын
傅高义也是一条为美国利益服务的狗。。。当美国人随便入侵他国的时候。。。你有个狗屁吗。。虚伪的美国学者。。该杀。。。傅高义也是一条为美国利益服务的狗。。。当美国人随便入侵他国的时候。。。你有个狗屁吗。。虚伪的美国学者。。该杀。。。
@zivcheung6594
@zivcheung6594 3 жыл бұрын
I am here to see and laugh at how twenty cents question the expert and insist what they want to believe.
@laterwell
@laterwell 3 жыл бұрын
they are fifty cents
@chuimeing716
@chuimeing716 3 жыл бұрын
@@laterwell theyre paid less these days, 50¢ down to 20¢ already
@user-ef6gt6tz2l
@user-ef6gt6tz2l 2 жыл бұрын
很受启发
@minyeequ705
@minyeequ705 2 жыл бұрын
不愧为傅先生,讲得高义
@huiwu3901
@huiwu3901 3 жыл бұрын
要取得宽松 温和的国际环境确实要某些方面做妥协 问题在于在核心问题的坚守跟妥协之间找到平衡点 让双方满足以至于可以继续合作发展 特别是在全球目光中你不断崛起的大背景下 难 太难 前所未有的难!
@joceyhamirton521
@joceyhamirton521 3 жыл бұрын
说到底都是利益问题
@funnydisappointed5221
@funnydisappointed5221 3 жыл бұрын
不懂得收敛锋芒,只会招来更多的箭头。
@biaofan5979
@biaofan5979 4 жыл бұрын
日本与中国的矛盾是因为中国的发展速度,日本有了危机感,可是这实在很荒谬,因为历史上的上一次战争,却是由于日本的贪婪而发生的。 如此双标。
@user-ub4bl4tr9s
@user-ub4bl4tr9s 3 жыл бұрын
这是以美国利益至上的宣传,你没看到,它大概的意思就是,美国就是西方世界,全然没把 欧洲 ,欧盟, 以及 5眼联盟等区分,实际上,欧盟和美国对中国的崛起是2个立场,欧盟是一个谨慎的交往态度,美国则是遏制甚至打压。不过,现在再吹中国威胁论已经没有意义,中国既然修改了游戏规则,那么,它就有足够的底气修改。所以,至于中美能做到什么程度,接下来的10年时间里面,我们可以拭目以待。等中国彻底把美国在南海打趴下,而且东南亚各国肯定不会也不敢参与到打击中国的军事战争,这个时候,美国就知道什么叫 赔了夫人又折兵 ,什么叫穷兵黩武,什么叫扩张主义,这是相对的。美国难道不是世界上最大的扩张主义和穷兵黩武吗,不然,你怎么把你的航母开进南海,如果中国比你更加扩张,那应该是中国把军舰开进加勒比海,或者夏威夷群岛。或者白令海峡,这才叫扩张。中国的所有扩张都是以自身实力进行扩展的。既然扩展到南海,那么南海中国就不怕一战
@longlu9441
@longlu9441 3 жыл бұрын
隋朝呢
@rouza0712
@rouza0712 3 жыл бұрын
貪婪嗎? 其實我覺得還好。 當時是氣焰囂張了些,但沒想打中國。 對日抗戰的第一槍,是在上海打起的, 是蔣介石意圖把戰場從河北拉到他準備好的長江戰場, 還搞決堤阻斷日軍沿鐵路南下。 . 簡單的說,老蔣當年想搞奇襲, 想讓日軍臨時增援上海,然後一次次送頭, 意圖以這一勝換日本的退步與打壓氣焰。 誰知道最終還是敗了。 . 以日本人的角度來說, 當年東北,是孫文允諾的, 當年孫文是只要關內十八省獨立建國, 沒要東北、沒要蒙古、沒有新疆、沒要西藏。 是個道地的民族革命者, 所以答應了日本,只要日本協助革命, 東北利益歸日本,所以日本幫助了。 . 但卻半路殺出個袁世凱, 讓滿清和平過渡到民國。 這下東北、蒙古、新疆、西藏都有了, 口號從驅逐韃虜,變成五族共和。 日本這下慌了,這債該如何討? 才有了後面的九一八, 這對日本來說,是有理有據, 也師出有名。 . 再加上,抗戰真正開打, 是國軍在上海開戰, 根本不是日軍開戰的。 要說貪婪,我不同意, 說囂張,我同意。
@hhz246
@hhz246 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🕯️
@scuroniub557
@scuroniub557 3 жыл бұрын
我觉得这是我在油管看过的最理性的
@user-gp4hm2md7u
@user-gp4hm2md7u 3 жыл бұрын
是的,同感
@inhthetran5722
@inhthetran5722 3 жыл бұрын
你们两个的评论很不理性。
@JunchenRBAO
@JunchenRBAO 4 жыл бұрын
非常有趣的评论;毕竟真理是越辩越明的,应该多听听外界的声音,但我们同时也应该要保持清醒。
@user-lb1ry4yp1z
@user-lb1ry4yp1z 4 жыл бұрын
我可能无处讲真话,但我绝不到处讲假话:我可能为五斗米折腰,但我绝不为不义之财屈膝; 我可能没有勇气做义人,但我绝不出卖和攻击义人;我可能不想追求崇高,但我绝不卑污如蛆; 我可能无力翻越那堵墙,但我绝不撤掉翻墙者的梯子;我可能无法为自由擎火把,但我绝不为奴役唱赞歌。 因为我想做一个“人”,而不是任人宰割铲除的奴隶和蛆虫
@user-hj6ni5nx5s
@user-hj6ni5nx5s 3 жыл бұрын
暗香826 你说的是什么意思?什么叫奴役,谁奴役你了?
@johnsonlee9797
@johnsonlee9797 Жыл бұрын
BBC是造謠大本營 新疆 香港問題都是美 英情報單位造謠的 讓美國人仇恨中國 欺騙美國人 是中國搶走了 美國人的工作 主因就是害怕中國越來越強大
@beaverxue8405
@beaverxue8405 3 жыл бұрын
我感到非常奇怪和吃惊的是,西方学者在谈及与中国有关的国际问题时,为何不提及第二次世界大战后所确定的世界秩序及有关中国领土领海领空划分和确定的原则。
@silence.m9991
@silence.m9991 3 жыл бұрын
去問一下俄羅斯
@yaohan2369
@yaohan2369 3 жыл бұрын
@芝麻 我是团员你想蒙我?沙雕😂
@baronchen4510
@baronchen4510 3 жыл бұрын
奇怪大病毒怎么在你美爹那里流行了,对中国只影响了武汉
@Tsedenisboring
@Tsedenisboring 3 жыл бұрын
@芝麻 ....美国感染人数超5百万了,是god's plan 吗?
@user-kx8ku5eq6t
@user-kx8ku5eq6t 3 жыл бұрын
@@baronchen4510 隱藏疫情的國家不會感到羞愧嗎?真可恥
@user-ds4ez4hv4o
@user-ds4ez4hv4o 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why it means what it means and what is the importance of the political camp. If it is not good for us to develop our national strength and provide the people with quality of life, we must plunder and fight for development?
@boyiyelcham2630
@boyiyelcham2630 2 жыл бұрын
非常好的访谈
@liu2435
@liu2435 4 жыл бұрын
当今的美国不把国际当做社交圈而是控制区。当今的中国也应该改变,不应该把美国当做社交圈。
@brand_newday
@brand_newday 4 жыл бұрын
亚洲需要同情心
@user-xn4yu5rn9q
@user-xn4yu5rn9q 4 жыл бұрын
Not sympathy, but fairness
@FUNNY-BIRDS.
@FUNNY-BIRDS. 4 жыл бұрын
全世界对美国要求同情心,如果它世界第一的位置受到威胁,其他各国要同情它,主动避让、主动阉割。
@travellerspace1047
@travellerspace1047 4 жыл бұрын
什么意思? 我的理解是亚洲或中国富人要对底层人民富有同情心,而美国要对亚洲有同情心。 中国也需了解美国或西方的想法,站在他们的立场考虑问题,不要因为不必要的误会增加双方怨恨。但原则性利益还是要坚守的(要分清哪些是原则性的,哪些不是的)。
@MYoung-yr9yi
@MYoung-yr9yi Жыл бұрын
强烈推荐《邓小平时代》。傅教授的考据,梳理和分析,让任何华人都能读得津津有味。认清这几十年从哪儿来,接下去又会去哪儿。
@delekam5723
@delekam5723 3 жыл бұрын
中國對西方越好,西方會對中國越好,我真的笑到噴飯....
@soewinu4806
@soewinu4806 3 жыл бұрын
自強才會被尊重!中國人加油💪
@nicoh8050
@nicoh8050 3 жыл бұрын
视频后 我觉得 傅高义 自以为是,,,中国人(黄种人)不可以影响美国 不可以全世界吗。 难道只能是有白人至上? 美国 英国 犹太名族 ??? 亲美 亲欧 亲白人血统能说话。。。。 能看的懂中文的不要做奴隶。
@verebz8221
@verebz8221 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicoh8050 可看得懂的正在做奴隶啊🤣
@user-mr7oy5cs8q
@user-mr7oy5cs8q 4 жыл бұрын
信息量很大!
@legao6783
@legao6783 4 жыл бұрын
正好相反,恰恰是多年来没有西方记者对中国友善,也做不到客观,总是变着法扭曲事实,我们才会这么警惕。
@yingyingmei9887
@yingyingmei9887 4 жыл бұрын
哈哈哈哈,比如说黄继光事件是假的,说狼牙山五战士是编的,我真是受够了!还有各路公知争当汉奸的!真的是
@user-oy9kx7xl1s
@user-oy9kx7xl1s 3 жыл бұрын
When we become strong,you treat us as enemies. Why?What can we do to satisfy you?
@user-sn3ng9er2z
@user-sn3ng9er2z 3 жыл бұрын
说中文
@user-oy9kx7xl1s
@user-oy9kx7xl1s 3 жыл бұрын
段小炎 反正无论怎么做都被说不好那不如放开手去做吧
@seiten4557
@seiten4557 3 жыл бұрын
香港问题说的有道理,值得仔细研究。
@treesmith5914
@treesmith5914 3 жыл бұрын
追究还是经济问题,人要吃的好,喝的好,住房住的好,基本上没有外部势力,国家不会乱,只有傻子才会不要命去参加一场不知胜负的政治暴动,给人当枪使。现在大陆房子也不便宜,我也买不起,但也不至于特别买不起,其他方面感觉还行
@user-un8iv8eu9i
@user-un8iv8eu9i 4 жыл бұрын
我们只是讨厌那些希望我们分裂的人
@Sam642009
@Sam642009 4 жыл бұрын
范淼 如果要分裂中國早在八國聯軍一役已經可以把中國分裂
@obyssey
@obyssey 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sam642009 中国史和世界史哪有那么肤浅... 别说没下口,港澳,台湾,新疆西藏,蒙古,东三省。 再说不具备威胁的中国分裂了有啥价值?无论是后期的清廷还是军阀,只是不同的半殖民地模式罢了。你要好处,也得有棒槌呀。
@user-gzy12kjhomv25
@user-gzy12kjhomv25 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sam642009 They didn't do that because they didn't want conflicts in China among themselves. Wise up, dude !
@granthan1994
@granthan1994 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sam642009 兄弟,八国联军基本上等于分裂的中国,削弱了清政府的集权统治。然后进入军阀割据,直到国民政府北伐才统一大部分国土。还有很多地方没有统一。现在其实就是在分裂中国啊,因为有人支持民主,但是大多数有人支持共产党。共产党的统治制度不允许第二个声音。这是矛盾所在。虽然我不能justify 共产党的所作所为,但是美国所作所为肯定不是为了我们的人民好。和平时期永远会比混乱强,制裁中国经济受伤的永远是底层人民,难道他们觉得那些高官会受损吗?但是美国也不在乎。
@shinesunet7747
@shinesunet7747 4 жыл бұрын
Lam SAM 八国联军打垮的是清政府,灭的了全中国人,灭的了中国这么多年的文化?他们最多只能分裂我们,躲在背后看中国人自己斗,然后他们捞得好油水,一个统一的中国才是他们的噩梦
@user-ni8mc5kz1t
@user-ni8mc5kz1t 4 жыл бұрын
這個人完全是以西方為主體意識的本位主義,
@user-me9vm1kx3l
@user-me9vm1kx3l 4 жыл бұрын
我觉得现在渐渐还有一种趋势,就是中国年轻人看待中国社会与国际形势中慢慢不再以西方为标准了。甚至很多人已经自信到我不会因为你觉得中国如何如何我就自省或郁闷,我们有自己的评价方式了。
@harrypan3778
@harrypan3778 3 жыл бұрын
他讲的非常客观,我们不应该被任何一方的意识形态所裹挟
@user-ci2vl5of8l
@user-ci2vl5of8l 3 жыл бұрын
一半真一半假 中国很多行为的国际背景以及国际事件他要么回避要么不知道
@kaixuanlu6577
@kaixuanlu6577 3 жыл бұрын
说得真好,比较中肯客观的评价!
@moxingan2346
@moxingan2346 3 жыл бұрын
这是BBC 美国政府出台过专门的反华方案 西方媒体洗脑国民 一个反华的势力阵营 请一个所谓的专家 说一些好话 夹杂一些批评 明显的有问题
@moxingan2346
@moxingan2346 3 жыл бұрын
第一 美英是一个联盟 甚至以前是一个国家啊 这是他们的媒体 第二 这位专家说的明显傲慢偏颇片面 那里中肯客观
@moxingan2346
@moxingan2346 3 жыл бұрын
算了 讲道理是没有的 除非自己拥有批判性思维 同时追求真实本质 不然就只能用事实让人闭嘴 其他毫无意义 PS媒体的嘴 人们说的话并不是事实
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