The Tesla Roadster Tricked Enthusiasts Into Loving EVs

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The Tesla Roadster Tricked Enthusiasts Into Loving EVs - Jason Cammisa Revelations Ep. 30

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This is the story of the Tesla Roadster - and thus, the beginnings of Tesla, which has grown to be the most valuable automaker in history.
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Tesla's promised new roadster is a very different thing - this Roadster went into production at a time when electric vehicles weren't just in their infancy, they were a joke, disregarded by enthusiasts and regular customers alike.
The story begins with the Piontek Sportech, which was a home-built tube-frame sports car created by Ford Engineer Dave Piontek in his garage in Michigan. It used a 1300-cc Suzuki 4-cylinder motorcycle engine (with Nitrous injection) and could hit 60 mph in just 4.5 seconds, weighing only 1234 lb.
A California-based startup called AC Propulsion bought one of the Sport-Techs and converted it to run on Optima Yellow-Top lead-acid batteries. They called it the tZero, and a prospective customer, Martin Eberhard, drove it and wanted to buy one - but only if it used Lithium-Ion batteries.
Bypassing the expensive Nickel-Metal-Hydride batteries that were leading edge, Eberhard helped AC Propulsion go straight to small-format cylindrical Lithium-Ion batteries, which had vastly more capacity, were much lighter, and were ultimately cheaper.
The result was 60 mph in 3.7 seconds, and a newly minted millionaire named Elon Musk wanted one, too. He joined forces with Eberhard, who had created Tesla Inc., and they worked directly with Lotus to extensively modify the Elise to become the Tesla Roadster.
In the end, the Elise's fundamentals remained, but the details didn't, and the Roadster emerged its own car. Tesla, at the same time, emerged the most valuable car company in the world. And the Roadster became the proof-of-concept that showed enthusiasts that an electric car could be fast and fun.
Next up was the Model S, the first part of the the S3XY product line that has catapulted Lotus to previously unknown valuations.
And it all started here.
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@andyx2 Жыл бұрын

Still the most entertaining host around.

@HoratioHoodoo Жыл бұрын

Absolute genius.

@highcard6155 Жыл бұрын

Agree! His energy is unmatched

@yodawg3469 Жыл бұрын

Helps he's a car nut himself

@omarinimblett1431 Жыл бұрын

💯

@RumblesBettr Жыл бұрын

Hands down. Get this guy on top gear america (if they want to salvage that thing for the 10th time)

@stephanematis Жыл бұрын

The sound of the electric motor reminds me how Montreal, the city that has had electric subway for so long, eventually "upgraded" the system to newer version of the trains cars about 20 years ago and people got very sad. You see the original models had a multi-stage sound as the electric motors wound up, and this sound was iconic. In the end, they captured the sound and added it back into the cabin via the speakers as a nod to tradition. Humans are silly.

@andrewduong2740 Жыл бұрын

The Montreal Metro is super sick. It makes the TTC subway feel and look mediocre by comparison. Though it's not a very high bar to clear.

@opposedrocket3 Жыл бұрын

The last place I was expecting reading about the Montreal Metro was in this comment section, yet here we are. And while reading your comment the aforementioned 3-note sound immediately played in my head. Crazy how some small things like that stay in your head forever.

@opposedrocket3 Жыл бұрын

@@andrewduong2740 except it's always broken down. So frustrating.

@JoshWalker1 5 ай бұрын

There's a famous set of cars in Japan on the Keikyu lines known as the singing trains. They tuned those sounds to occur as a chromatic scale on startup. Some replacement parts are unobtainable now and so the number of trainsets that do this are dwindling and people are sad. And it is pretty cool

@shartbimpson 5 ай бұрын

there's one line on the London underground with these motors, sounds like a spaceship

@ScottBullard Жыл бұрын

What’s so awesome about these videos is that Jason, unlike almost every other automotive KZfaqr, doesn’t just copy and paste from other sources: he actually does his own original research. As a Roadster owner and enthusiast, I’ve heard most of these stories, but never with this level of detail: for example, I knew about the issues with the 2-speed approach, but never knew *why* they kept blowing up. Entertaining, informative, and insightful! My only complaint is I wish these videos were twice or three times as long!

@boxoffisa Жыл бұрын

It is a team. His idea with script writers adds up to this. I love what the whole production team is doing.

@mobiusflammel9372 Жыл бұрын

⁠@@boxoffisa I could’ve sworn Jason talked about writing the shows himself. I’m not doubting that there are others on the team but I vaguely remember him at least mentioning that in passing on Carmudgeon a looong time ago. I could be mistaken, though.

@ScottBullard Жыл бұрын

I get why you’d think there’s a big crew with a big budget (the production quality!) but it really is just four people: Jason (Writer/Host), Anthony (Director/DP), Robert (Editor), and Liv (Producer). All the more impressive for it!

@papa_pt Жыл бұрын

@@ScottBullardwow yeah. I thought he'd have an extra writer or two to help him out, at the least...just bc these productions are so good

@theupscriber65 Жыл бұрын

The transmission story is missing a little early info. I worked as a quality engineer on this program for Magna Powertrain. We developed a dry sump 2 speed transmission based on Tesla's design requirements in Syracuse NY at our New Process Gear plant. But we could never get it to pass durability testing. The issue was the dry sump system resulting in bearing failures. Tesla and Magna began fighting over about $5 million that Magna claimed Tesla owed for development costs. Tesla's position was that they'd pay once we delivered a working product. Tesla took the Magna design to Hamtramck, who I thought locked it into 2nd gear, but it was possibly BorgWarner (where I work now).

@realestateeric Жыл бұрын

That sound on acceleration is surprisingly awesome. Sounds like a jet on take off.

@TheBowerbird Жыл бұрын

Rivian R1T's quad motors have a very similar sound!

@bitmen1296 Жыл бұрын

Man, I bet it feels like a jet too when you put your foot in it That car would be so fun on a back road

@MichaelThwaite Жыл бұрын

And it never gets old 🙂

@anirudhramakrishnan2686 Жыл бұрын

Honestly this car seems amazing but to me it sounded like a vacuum cleaner

@StalePhish 7 ай бұрын

If you are in a Model 3, charge to 100% battery, fold the rear seats down, and open the cargo floor, it actually sounds super similar to this! Not sure on the physics but there is a lot more motor noise when it's not doing regen braking, and the sound dampening from all the panels closed hides it from being heard on the daily

@grug_son_of_thog Жыл бұрын

First gen Roadster: Tesla shared every detail of the development process with customers, explaining everything they were doing to meet their goals. Second gen Roadster: Radio silence (other than repeated delay announcements) since they unveiled it and started taking reservations nearly 6 years ago.

@sudeeptaghosh Жыл бұрын

2nd Gen roadster does not move the needle on Tesla’s master plan .. bigger fishes to fry

@DuvJones Жыл бұрын

Yeah, well... alot has changed and the thing that this video points out is this: Tesla has become the thing that it hates. Elon.... meet Henry Ford the first, all the good and all the bad. That is what he is, that is what he has always been it's just much more noticeable now.

@DuvJones Жыл бұрын

@@CyanRooper Oh the irony of that.

@ButterNutter37 Жыл бұрын

@@CyanRooper right, so only one person in history can have a Master Plan. Next you'll try to convince people a pencil is proprietary hardware.

@sharlesleglerc Жыл бұрын

@@CyanRooper It hadn’t worked for me.

@IdealMediaChannel Жыл бұрын

As always, great job Jason!

@alanperry8676 Жыл бұрын

The problem with Jason is that he tells stories and glides right over facts that don't align with the story. The company was Eberhard and Musk. How does Eberhard fit in now? At least Musk didn't call him a pedo. I think. Elon under promises and over delivers. How is promising 250 mile range and delivering 244 mile range doing that? He scaled down expectations and then over-delivered on that. Elise and Tesla Roadsters are really different because they only share 7% of parts. Except they were built on the same production line and based on the same unique chassis technology.

@sparkgrid Жыл бұрын

@@alanperry8676keep hatin', you can't be helped

@wujus2 Жыл бұрын

@@alanperry8676 So if I make two different cakes at home, using the same technology - they are the same cake? 🙃

@alanperry8676 Жыл бұрын

@@sparkgrid Yes, any criticism is hatin'. So, you are admitting that you have nothing to argue against the points that I made?

@alanperry8676 Жыл бұрын

@@wujus2 Thank you for at least attempting to address a point that I made. They could be the same cake. Tell me more about them.

@zymmer4 Жыл бұрын

As usual, Jason easily becomes..again..the finest mind at Hagerty..Jason...don't change a thing.

@benzina5917 Жыл бұрын

Jason's Revelations never cease to impress. Each one is better than the last and he is setting the bar absurdly high. Wonderful production.

@HobbyTimeSeattle Жыл бұрын

AC Propulsion really loved their Japanese Volk Racing TE37's. They are on everything. lol

@realAlexChoi Жыл бұрын

I’m guessing it’s bc with those early batteries they wanted every bit of range possible, and TE37s are some of the lightest wheels around. Plus they look so damn good

@GetOffMyLog Жыл бұрын

@@realAlexChoiif they were only shooting for range they'd have flat hubcaps. Someone definitely loved the way TE37s looked as well as their weight.

@djlytic4603 Жыл бұрын

Just got a set for my model 3 :)

@tiagobelo4965 Жыл бұрын

@@GetOffMyLogwell, mooneyes style wheels are really bad for brake cooling, so in the end they'd still need to put some holes in, even with all the regen braking stuff. Now, some P-slots, maybe even toned down turbofans? That might just work

@GetOffMyLog Жыл бұрын

@@tiagobelo4965 see Tesla aero wheels for example

@boxoffisa Жыл бұрын

I watch and forget it’s 20 minute video because this man delivers in a way that’s catchy. Great talent.

@winteronice Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I feel so stupid missing out on this car. They were only 75K in the Netherlands. Due to goverment subsidies and tax returns, you would only pay 30k in the end. Should have bought one when I could.

@f308gtb1977 Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, we rob our neighbors and feel good about it. Government is so great.

@cars-and-guitars Жыл бұрын

On behalf of my fellow Tesla Raodster owners all over the world, THANK YOU for this!! This is brilliantly done and the research and attention to detail is astounding. I didn't think I could know any more about this car, but I learned quite a bit from this! I can't express how happy I was watching this whole video through. Thank you so much.

@freshmexicano0375 Жыл бұрын

OMG!! I met Dave at a Cars and Coffee a couple weeks ago!! He was super cool and we talked for about half an hour about all the home brewed cars he made. Had no idea it was even remotely related to this!!

@sankey5915 Жыл бұрын

When jason is in the video its alwasy going to be good!

@KyleHubb Жыл бұрын

Always.

@polishdude001 Жыл бұрын

Fr I only watch for Jason

@fatstrat772 Жыл бұрын

Big daddy J hits nothing but home runs

@wisconsineaglesfan7925 Жыл бұрын

100% The only thing I watch on Hagerty now is Jason, now that Tony Angelo went back to his own thing.

@robertedwards3551 4 ай бұрын

Jason deserves a TV channel, c'mon Amazon, this guy is as entertaining as Clarkson!

@redlinek Жыл бұрын

Jason delivers to the automotive world what David Attenborough does to BBC Earth. No small accomplishment at any scale. Stunning performance, execution, and delivery. You work is appreciated, thank you.

@polishdude001 Жыл бұрын

I was smiling ear to ear at the end of the video ….. wow that sound and handling

@ethereous Жыл бұрын

Been binge-rewatching all of the Revelations videos in the last few days. What incredible timing.

@farishanafiah8461 Жыл бұрын

6:17 That is what I love about Jason. That joke is brilliant. 😂🤣

@car-spot-one8271 Жыл бұрын

It's so nice to watch when Jason talks about cars in is own way.

@spikymikie Жыл бұрын

Very interesting story. Thanks Jason. As always, your sarcastic observations are halarious. Always happy to see you drop another video.

@AdityaShah-sl2wg Жыл бұрын

Jason is the Porsche of Automotive Journalists, The Absolute Benchmark!! Fantastic Video Cammisa

@wallyr.7854 Жыл бұрын

Jason can feature a review of an old 1980s Vespa scooter and I would still not hesitate one second to click on the video and automatically give it a thumbs up because I know that no matter what Jason reviews I know 💯% that it will be entertaining, humorous, informative and simply fantastic…gotta love JC 👍🏻

@borntodieworldisafuck Жыл бұрын

Odd example, Vespa would make a perfect revelations ep. One of the most influential post-war vehicles, tons of revolutionary engineering on them.

@adhamdavlatov Жыл бұрын

Jason's story telling is unparalleled. He is a master of his craft and such an inspiration!

@PSR1791 Жыл бұрын

If 33 miles is walking distance, I'm in trouble.

@air-headedaviator1805 Жыл бұрын

You could knock that out in a day or two

@JoshuaTootell Жыл бұрын

About t hours for me, if I'm trained up for it.

@Raymo2u Жыл бұрын

If the dollar falls, it will become a normal thing once again.

@jsquared1013 Жыл бұрын

Average human walking speed is about 3 mph. Going 33 miles would not be enjoyable, but it's doable. A few centuries ago it would have been common.

@pbfloyd13 Жыл бұрын

Tell us you're American without telling us you're American...

@aikodo22 Жыл бұрын

I drove the first Tesla Roadster in the Netherlands a long time ago, I was immediately hooked, even though I am a real petrolhead. Brilliant show like always!

@DrieStone Жыл бұрын

Kudos to your production using the RGB LED light-strip for the fire. A++

@jonathanblake5844 Жыл бұрын

The story about the sound of the roadster being used in the Batman movie is awesome! I didnt know about that before

@andrewthompson6893 Жыл бұрын

I'm sad every time one of these videos ends. I want it to just go on and on and on. So well done. Although I'm going to respectfully disagree with you about how many parts it shares with the S2 Elise/Exige. A great majority of the parts are NEARLY identical, but if you take that little bit out then it seems that they aren't similar at all...and they are.

@BlatentlyFakeName Жыл бұрын

Not sure if it's really true. Even the way the roof mounts is identicle, you can put an Elise roof on a Tesla. The wing mirrors are the same old Metro ones, the airbags etc are the same Toyota ones found in the Elise

@ThaMythbuster Жыл бұрын

I've been saying for a while that electric cars should sound like KITT from Knight Rider, that turbine whine, and that's the only way they could be cool... This Tesla Roadster at the end sounds exactly like what I had in my head when I said that. That was a great video :)

@markk3453 Жыл бұрын

when a veteran reporter and a hardcore car guy can admit on video they were wrong. not many can do so! great video !

@tiagocoelho7415 Жыл бұрын

As I’m sure most people here half of the media I consume through KZfaq is car related and as been for many years. Can sincerely say I’ve never watched anything that gets me glued to the screen every single second as your shows on Hagerty Jason. Very good job

@StevenYanni Жыл бұрын

Nothing else matches the excitement of a new video from Camissa at lunch time :D Phenomenal as usual.

@Imdeadlydan Жыл бұрын

Never Stop Jason ! 😎👍 Awesome stuff, learned lots, interesting AF, entertaining to the very end, many thanks to all involved in making these first class videos . ♥

@UpenShenoy Жыл бұрын

Automotive storytelling at it's best!

@dennisbrown2571 Жыл бұрын

I don't how Jason and his production people continualy turnout all of the stories. From the special effects, the stories, the dialog and some comedy, everything is first rate and just so entertaining. Amazing.

@LIL_Dave1964 Жыл бұрын

The fastest electric car in the world (it didn't even get a mention) was the 1972(?) Datsun 210 called the "White Zombie", it was a dragster that destroyed the ¼ mile with a low 7 ET....

@0o0ification Жыл бұрын

The most underdog poster car ever? Indisputably, an _electric_ revelation. And, a reminder that cash flow is king 😉 Thanks Hagerty! and thanx for the deets Jason ^^

@Adamas_83 Жыл бұрын

Amazing production as always, and Jason is forever the exact right proportion of self-deprecation, sarcasm, snarkiness and unfiltered truth. Best automotive host period.

@ErikRobertson Жыл бұрын

Not mentioned - this particular car has been upgraded with an 80kWh battery pack, giving it 340 miles of range. Incredible video! The best I've seen accurately covering the Roadster and early Tesla history. The last minute gave me goosebumps.

@4literv6 Жыл бұрын

80kwh? Wow I thought the upgraded roadster pack's had like 55 or so kwhs. 🤔

@ErikRobertson Жыл бұрын

@@4literv6 Original pack was 53kWh. New is 80, hence the "R80" badge seen on the back on this one. Tesla was working on some aero improvements to be part of the "package", hinting at 400 miles range, but it never happened. Almost like it's on-brand for Tesla to overpromise and underdeliver ;)

@4literv6 Жыл бұрын

@@ErikRobertson interesting. You think everything they've delivered to customers inc over 4,500,000 evs globally now is overpromising? 😀

@ErikRobertson Жыл бұрын

@@4literv6 oh no, the scale that they've achieved is beyond insane. They now make more cars per day than the entire Roadster production (~2,500) over 3 years. Overpromising -> 2nd gen Roadster, FSD, Cybertruck, among other things.

@4literv6 Жыл бұрын

@@ErikRobertson yeah the latest gen products are all way overdue. Imo they should've refunded everyone with a gen2 roadster order, ct order and semi order between late 2020&2021. Once they decided no new products&gung ho on model y production. 😏 Then you can take stock of what's the real model timelines, specs and price point's. After those are realigned reopen the order books. With the caveat anyone originally in line could keep their same deposit down&place in line but with an understanding the prices changed.

@iavoridtube Жыл бұрын

Loving Jason's Revelations! Really looking forward to his next one. Great job guys!

@gabriels1869 Жыл бұрын

Always happy to see a new Revelations episode

@justaguy9681 Жыл бұрын

Jason you're such a great host it's insane Please never stop fam

@cgmoog Жыл бұрын

Absolutely fantastic. I was working for a clean air consulting company around the time the EV1 came out. We had tested electric vehicles (along with CNG, MeOH and other alternative fuels). I remember discussing electrics with the other engineers. We came to the conclusion that an electric drag racer could challenge ICE drag racers. At the same time we were disappointed that none of the EVs we tested (Solectria, S10 conversions) were even as fast as a horse in the quarter mile (a little over 20 seconds).

@QMaverick1 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only person that freaking loves that noise. When I gun it in my Mach-E it makes me feel like I'm in a starfighter--would be even more fun in a little roadster! Just wish they'd start putting gauges in front of the driver again . . .

@tekature2315 Жыл бұрын

Ok is it just me, or in the end when Jason is driving the Roadster, it just sounds so damn cool?

@andrewdekoning Жыл бұрын

This is what straight cut gears sound like if you don't have motor noise covering them up... :D

@RC-fp1tl Жыл бұрын

is sounds so siiick!

@2cats1guy Жыл бұрын

This is awesome. Thank you Jason. You’re the best host ever. Never. Stop. Working. My first EV was an old Hyundai Ioniq and I regret not waiting another year to get a model 3. I finally found a used model 3 LR RWD with high milage for cheap and I can’t go back. It’s my bucket list and I’ll die with this car unless I can afford the cybertruck when I come up on the list. But even then, a little EV that feels like a golf cart and reminds me of the old M3 BMW in looks is a keeper. First car that I don’t want to sell…..other than my first car; 1984 Trans Am. That thing was so fun.

@SOFAKINGRNDM Ай бұрын

Batman reference and last shot with the sound made EV motors sound cool. Excellent job all around!

@alsa4real Жыл бұрын

Damn this is an eye-opening video as an EV hater

@Commander-McBragg Жыл бұрын

The AA battery bit was hilarious. I could hear the nerds screaming before the punchline.

@imliterallyjustjake Жыл бұрын

Dude I wasn’t expecting that whatsoever 😂😂 that came from the clouds

@Coyote.five.0 7 ай бұрын

i love watching this guy talk about cars he knows what he's talking about and you can see it .

@sm51259 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for telling this story. As an employee, absolutely loved it. Fascinating and beautifully presented as always

@LaczPro Жыл бұрын

This was a great story. I was missing the Revelations series quite a lot. I didn't even know that noise from the Roadster was in the Batman movie, but I knew I heard it before.

@steventrent7750 Жыл бұрын

My favorite part is when he holds up the laptop and it's blurred. I know what you were watching Jason! Hahahaha! I love Teslas. People hate evs because they don't know anything about them, only what other people that know nothing about them have said. Jason is the BEST!!!

@eskamobob8662 Жыл бұрын

Eh, I started my engineering career in the EV space. They still just don't do what I want from a car (I don't actualy want a fast car and like lightweight)

@JoshuaTootell Жыл бұрын

It says "Pornhub" right on the screen...

@BeNNstAh Жыл бұрын

Wow, never thought I'd say this, but that thing sounds amazing. The whining of the gears sounds awesome!

@ericbagdikian3339 Жыл бұрын

Jason Cammisa is the best! Knowledgable, explains everything understandably, and is entertaining as hell!

@frestkd Жыл бұрын

I use to race electric 1/10 scale R/C cars back in the mid 1990s to early 2000s they were fast back then now they're really fast and so are the full size electric cars. I saw it coming way back then just needed to have the battery tech get better, and charging get populated.

@bradcomis1066 Жыл бұрын

The electric revolution took place much quicker in RC than in full size cars! Its not quite the same circumstances, but the technological battle was pretty similar. ICE RC cars are so rare now. The power and run time/range of modern electric systems are incredible.

@incognitotorpedo42 Жыл бұрын

@@bradcomis1066 I was at an RC race around the time they were starting to transition to electric, watching a guy doing a brilliant job driving his ICE RC car. He was just running away from the field, WAY out in front, and stopped to pit. Then he couldn't get it started, and wound up in the middle of the pack without enough time to catch the leader. He was super pissed, and said "That does it! I'm going electric!". Another convert. I love EV road cars and would never go back to ICE. It's mainly about the power delivery, acceleration, and low cost of operation/maintenance.

@bluejayfabrications2216 Жыл бұрын

I was racing RC as well during that time mid 90s up to 2015 ish Electric was better in most cases except for range with our club the final was three times as long as qualifying and didn't that cause issues so much so that the electric cars had the finals cut down to qualifying length because it just became a war of attrition not racing The nitro guys just drove into the pits lifted the lid and filled it up and went again I mucked around with quick release battery options plugs that were magnetic but it was just to clunky and unreliable to race with so I went nitro then realised I could burn just as much money on real cars

@GrandmasterFU666 Жыл бұрын

Really cool story, love it! I love all vehicles regardless of propulsion, they all sound awsome!

@thesupremekai1980s Жыл бұрын

Honestly, the battery explanation at 6:38 explained a lot to me... It had been passing me by. Thank you for the great story too!

@bundy26 9 ай бұрын

Another top quality car documentary video. There is no one even close to Jason.

@matthewwilkins5668 Жыл бұрын

This was a great video. I have always been a fan of Tesla and it would be a dream to drive an original Roadster. I love the size, I just wish more companies would make 2 seater electric sports cars. The end of the video when you could actually hear the motor is amazing and I wish more were like it. Thanks!

@xskinyx Жыл бұрын

I feel like the Lotus involvement is criminally downplayed. They built the car. Maybe it's not an Elise, but it's definitely a Lotus.

@maristef9773 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Mr. Cammisa for your constant delightful educational entertainment! Would love to share enthusiast's & engineering bits with you and the team for weeks.

@MarioScanu77 Жыл бұрын

I wish there was more than a simple 👍 to express my enjoyment of every episode I watch .. thank you with every episode seemingly further apart I think just goes to show how much they are enjoyed .. can’t wait for the next one

@nirbhayatiwari5425 Жыл бұрын

Jason in itself is a masterpiece creation of nature ...

@joshuagibson2520 Жыл бұрын

I'll say he's good. Very good, honestly. There are so many that are so poor at what they do that it makes Jason seem even better. I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but it used to be that exceptional writing and presentations was the norm. Now there are just a handful of people who are great at it like Jason.

@williamfischer3990 Жыл бұрын

I feel the same way about motorcycles. If you don’t think they’re cool it’s because you haven’t ridden one.

@EUC-lid Жыл бұрын

ER Doctors call them donor-cycles because they only see motorcyclists that enter their lives on a gurney, so the public has this notion that they're far deadlier to ride than they are. Even with a tremendous amount of leather-chap-wearing wannabe-badass cruiser doofuses riding home drunk from bars and frontal-lobe-lacking squids buying liter-bikes, the stats for dying on a motorcycle are still better than flying in a glider or GA plane, or even riding a horse. If you get regular training, wear protective gear, ride sober, and use a bit of frontal-lobe-powered self preservation, motorcycles are only marginally more dangerous than riding a bicycle. Car enthusiasts will remove airbags, install bolt-in 'JDM' cages, keep unsecured loads inside the passenger compartment, and drive 40mph faster than traffic all while decrying motorcycles as too dangerous to ride. 😂

@JoshuaTootell Жыл бұрын

I was going to say "some people don't belong on one", but you just said it with more words @@EUC-lid 😂

@borntodieworldisafuck Жыл бұрын

@@EUC-lid Motorcycles are less dangerous than bicycles, once you're experienced. It's a matter of being seen by cars or not seen, and having control over situations in traffic. Bicyclists are at the mercy of whoever is approaching from behind. On a motorcycle I get to choose where I accept risk, and generally it's not behind me unless I'm the first person at a stoplight (keep it in gear lol). Anecdotal I know, but I've ridden motorcyles daily for decades without a serious incident, but I've been clobbered twice on a bicycle (by cars) in the course of riding a few times a year. In both cases a quick blip of a throttle would have prevented it.

@scottevers8425 5 ай бұрын

Jason was the best part of Head to Head. Glad I found him again. Best thing on the internet.

@a-_-s Жыл бұрын

Electric motor sound is the reason I open the tonneau cover and back window on my F150 Lightning whenever I drive it, as it allows you to clearly hear the raw propulsion sound. Punching it and out-accelerating almost anything on the road while hearing that whine certainly isn’t like an angry V8 - but it’s different, and it’s fantastic. I’m all in on EVs taking over. I daily my Lightning and wouldn’t daily anything else right now… Waking up to a 320 mile range, blistering acceleration, fantastic comfort and refinement is stellar. But I’ll take the V8 out on the weekends for the fun winding backroads.

@trulegend4109 Жыл бұрын

Not a EV fan, but that sound is Amazing.

@theredbaron7302 Жыл бұрын

Before tonight i thought the roadster was just an elise with batteries. Guess i was wrong.

@morora.9312 11 ай бұрын

This really is one of the best channels of all time. These stories are always fascinating but the delivery makes it truly amazing to watch everytime. Thank you guys for your work !

@CutlassSupreme455 Жыл бұрын

Great video Jason. I’m so happy that it wasn’t just another generic negative hit piece against Tesla. Actual history backed by facts. 👍

@adityasingh1657 Жыл бұрын

Revelations on Lamborghini LM200 as well as new icons episode , love watching Jason Cammisa explainations

@Miggy2j Жыл бұрын

Great writing, great editing, great video!

@raumgleiter1973 Жыл бұрын

you made my day! 😂 everytime i walk in my garage, i will look now at my 35mill car… but i will never complain! ❤

@TheodoreRavindranath Жыл бұрын

I have heard pieces of this story many times, but your story telling is amazing. Thanks for doing this!

@alanperry8676 Жыл бұрын

Sorry, I will stick with my S1 Elise. I guess that I am an oddball driving enthusiast because I have little interest in electric sports cars. With current technology, it will still be twice as heavy as my S1. The local Lotus club did a lapping day on a karting track. Four Tesla Roadsters showed up. The fastest Tesla driver was still significantly slower than me in my S1 (and I am not a brlliant driver).

@N911GT2 Жыл бұрын

I have a VX and totally agree. The roadster isn’t even a fast EV. Let alone a fast car.

@ButterNutter37 Жыл бұрын

Here's a reminder to everyone. Tesla is doing the exact same thing with autonomous driving. All the media hit pieces would have you believe Full Self Driving (FSD) is a failure of a program. But speaking from my experience on the inside, testing since 2019, we are on the cusp of a new paradigm. Bravo Tesla for all the successes of the past, present and future.

@DJL78 Жыл бұрын

“Testing since 2019” “WE are on the cusp of a new paradigm” LMFAO! 🤡

@michaelpolec7216 8 ай бұрын

Wow. I didn't even know the story of Tesla or cared much for this video but i had to watch the whole thing as it was so insightful and fully engrossing. Well Done

@pjcornell9691 Жыл бұрын

I owned a few Dodge Viper at the time. A friend in purchased one and was so wanting to give me a ride in it. I was Impressed that day. Here in Scottsdale Arizona probably 20%+ of the cars at every stoplight are a Tesla Sport Ute or Sedan. Very Impressive Company!

@gabriel.casanas Жыл бұрын

to be fair any purchase or investment made was a mistake compared to buying Tesla stock during that time

@samwestenskow Жыл бұрын

The original Tesla Roadster is sooo cool. I really hope someone builds another EV like it.

@davefox72 4 ай бұрын

Wow. I truly forgot where I was and what time it was while I watched this review. I was fully fully engaged and anybody who wants to know how a review of anything should be done should look deeply second by second study this video here. My hats off to you you are an amazing host and my thank you. Jason.

@travisa6311 Жыл бұрын

One of the best automotive journalists in the industry right now. Keep up the great work.

@aviation3530 Жыл бұрын

Jason’s vids are the most well written funniest on the net. Predict this will be his lowest viewed

@Projectunderground___ Жыл бұрын

Why would you think this will be his lowest? Very dumb assumption. Quite the opposite

@4literv6 Жыл бұрын

Because it's about a world shaking ev? All his recent ev content has been killing it. 🤔

@danapeck5382 5 ай бұрын

Thanks, great history snippet. I denigrated EVs and batteries from 1975 until Tesla engineering delivered. Now driving a 2023 Model Y LR -- in rural America -- and loving it. All the best.

@bumstead1383 Жыл бұрын

I just recently ( this year) discovered this channel and Cammisa is the best fkn mouth piece, journalist, wtevr….today, in all of media. Thanks , I enjoy watching.

@Lucas_Broom Жыл бұрын

it really is a shame that the idea of a lighter electric sports car hasn't really caught on. Electric cars are only really marketed now for there daily drivability and there tech.

@briankearn6991 Жыл бұрын

A lighter electric sports car is not a possibility because of the weight of the battery.if a range of even 200 miles is the goal, or a high speed is desired. 3000 pounds of battery would be necessary.

@ksr906 Жыл бұрын

The next Porsche Boxster/Cayman is all electric

@RB-kb3tc Жыл бұрын

@@briankearn6991 Kinda silly to say when the the very car this video is about has 240 miles of range while maintaining a sub 3000lbs weight... (All of this from a fresh, inexperienced startup using a borrowed chassis.) There has been many incremental improvements in EV tech and EV design since this car launched, and newer small evs like the aptera and mcmurtry offer decent range while weighing less than 2200lbs.

@martingardens Жыл бұрын

@@RB-kb3tc He was talking out of his tailpipe. 2024 BMW M3 Curb Weight: 3929 lb. A Tesla Performance Model 3 is 4,065.

@Marc-zi4vg Жыл бұрын

@@briankearn6991 eh not really these days i mean if formula E gen 3 is getting as small as those grand prix cars in the 60's (with now the same top speed, just look at Portland). there is also an argument to be made that an electric sportscar built in the same philosophy as the F40/Lotus/Viper would win the hearts of car guys and this is why out of all of the car companies that would nail the electric sportscars its not tesla...its LOTUS who have helped Tesla and ex-lotus execs working with Lucid (which their chassis tuning based on the E39 M5) Colin Chapman's Philosophy works THE BEST in sports EVs than ICEs, soo while people complained that lotus would now only make electrics cars, for me...ITS JUST in-character for them to do so!

@mndlessdrwer Жыл бұрын

The terrifying thing about electric sports cars is how quickly and how easily you can end up going way, way faster than you intended to go, and subsequently how difficult it can be to actually feel the limits of the vehicle before you exceed them. To their immense credit, the engineers at Tesla have made their vehicles, particularly the performance sedans and roadster, handle exceptionally well for their weight, so the handling ceiling is quite high and it is somewhat difficult to actually push through it, but it certainly isn't impossible. I suspect whenever they do finally get the new roadster into the hands of anxious buyers that there will be a slew of very destroyed roadsters and some owners who are very surprised that they survived the crash. Not because it doesn't handle well, but because it has just too much performance for a normal mindset to cope with. As previously mentioned, it becomes very difficult to intuit how fast you're going and exactly how much speed you're taking into a corner and, subsequently, how much force you'll be generating as you try to take said corner. The more effortless the acceleration feels to the driver, the easier it is to lose track of the speed you're going. Take James May's track day with the Bughatti Veyron. After his top speed run, he went to stop and open the door, not realizing that he was still going nearly 60MPH because the speed dilation that he experienced made that feel akin to standing still. I've felt a lesser degree of this when I finished a long, uninterrupted road trip at 90MPH and went into town where I'd have to slow to 35 and it felt unbearably slow, like I was idling around. So you have a car that makes 60 feel like 15 and you try to toss it through a turn you should be taking at 35...

@sportbikejesus6297 Жыл бұрын

35 is unbearably slow and only a nuisance does that outside a school zone or parking garage. Add 10-15 to the speed limit or gtfo

@dougrobinson8602 Жыл бұрын

Part of the problem is that electric motors can vary torque almost instantaneously, while even the best ABS systems actuating large brakes cannot slow the vehicle as quickly as it can accelerate. Add in the weight of an electric car, and you can get into trouble very quickly.

@Dreznin Жыл бұрын

That's how I got a ticket so soon after buying my Model 3 Performance - the tiniest bit of pressure on the pedal is enough to run you up to 60 MPH and my neighborhood is a 30 MPH limit. Really wish it had a setting somewhere between "Sport" and "Chill" since Sport is way too eager to get you in trouble and Chill is so neutered that you'd think it was a land yacht from the 70s. It's not just the effortless acceleration that does it, it's also how silent it is - I drove a 2016 F-Type R for a few days prior to buying my Model 3 Performance and the 0-60 and 1/4 miles times are comparable between them, but the F-Type had a much better sense of speed because you could hear it and you could feel the transmission go through the gears... the only time I hear my Model 3 is when I floor it and get the whine of the motors loud enough to hear inside the cabin.

@borntodieworldisafuck Жыл бұрын

Too much performance for the average person. I've never met an owner who had any seat-time on a track, although I know they exist. We need another license class for these cars, the tests we developed for driving base model thunderbirds won't cut it.

@mndlessdrwer 5 ай бұрын

@@borntodieworldisafuck Honestly, I'd have to agree. We need a performance license to allow people to purchase cars with those kinds of acceleration figures. I've driven a Model 3 Performance and it takes quite a bit of driver awareness to avoid going significantly faster than the speed limit. A large part of the problem that I've noticed from that particular model is just how sensitive the accelerator is to input. Like, it's just a bit too linear and you can hit 60 in a hurry with only, like, a centimeter of travel, which feels very minute compared to most other cars' throttles. And Chill mode isn't quite the solution I wish it could have been, since it just constantly pulls accelerator input timing to make the car accelerate more slowly, which isn't exactly the solution that I want. I, more or less, would prefer to have it emulate the throttle and acceleration rate of a 350-ish HP car with a CVT transmission unless I depress the throttle more than, like, 2/3 of its travel. If I've stabbed the throttle that hard then I want as much acceleration as I can get. I tend to think that we need more stringent driving tests to begin with, since basically nobody understands how four-way stops and rotary interchanges work, how school bus right of way and emergency vehicle right of way works, which lane you're supposed to turn into when making a turn onto a multi-lane road, how the zipper merge method works, what appropriate following distance looks like, etc. I know for a fact that all of these things were taught when I was in the driver's education class, while the practical driving course was more about familiarizing yourself with the vehicle and more practical road skills.

@TheTussman Жыл бұрын

"The Medium is the Message" theory on full, glorious display, every upload!

@nvrndingsmmr Жыл бұрын

Oh my god, the sounds that car makes!! That's awesome!

@Frostfly Жыл бұрын

Telsa isn't a car company, they are a tech company. They've always sold it as that. that's why it's so massively overvalued. (and it shows in their manufacturing)

@minascholevas Жыл бұрын

*The personality change of Elon over the years it's crazy. I guess rich and crazy people got to him*

@emersonvella 4 ай бұрын

Ahahaha love the red LED rope for the flame effect 😂 genius!

@shr00m7 Жыл бұрын

You sir, are the best automotive storyteller in the game. The battery in a bag with water was a perfect nod/foreshadowing. I wonder if people watching this video in 20 years will pick up on it.

@mrki412 Жыл бұрын

You buy a Tesla for the price of a new luxury limousine and then drive at a price twice as expensive as if you had bought a luxury diesel vehicle - a priceless feeling, especially when it leaves you on the road if you accidentally turned on the air conditioner.

@jorgejefferson8251 Жыл бұрын

Would rather have the Elise all day long.

@danyb97 Жыл бұрын

Jason has already become the most entertaining Motor Journalist on KZfaq currently.

@SkipPlossCT Жыл бұрын

Jason, you are the most entertaining automotive journalist I've ever watched and I remember Brock Yates and Jean Lindamood. I always watch one of your videos and end up hours later, having watched many of your videos, wondering where the day went. Thank you for all of the info and great fun.

@LordLoMR2 Жыл бұрын

Most EV haters haven’t even driven an EV. And when they do, they pretend not to be impressed. 😂

@ItzzzBeamo 4 ай бұрын

Model S P65 I found used at a jaguar/rover lot. It accelerated alright, but the Stelvio Quad I was familiar with was far more fun, and it came with vibrations and noise, whereas the tesla was dead quiet and sitting in silence with the salesman who was with me test driving the car made the experience incredibly awkward. If car guys want contained explosions punching them into their seat, then EVs will never replace that.