Dale is down the Earth so honest he sees the good and talent in people this is why people respect him and honor him he says it with kindness

A few years when she was on the Dale Jr podcast Kelly and Dale told her to not to worry about rushing up the ladder. Kelly knew then and i recall watching that episode and believing she was not as talented as what everyone wanted to believe. Even with that advice from Kelly Earnhardt the Deegan camp did the exact opposite and here we are.

You could hear on the radio during the Chicago race, Joey wasn't just telling the crew chief what was going on with the car, but also telling him how to adjust it, so even if Halie knew how to articulate what was going on, sounds like they were guessing on how to fix it

Dale hit the nail on the head when it comes to Hallie's career and choices

I agree with both perspectives. I hope Hailie lands on her feet with a team that can be patient with her in this new machine and be able to facilitate her growth. The lady has talent!!!

It was great listening to TJ coach Hailie as a driver while he was her spotter in Trucks. Losing that definitely hurt her performance in trucks, and this highlights how a skilled driver may not be able to articulate what they need to a team that may not know how to provide it

I think the comparison would be a young solid QB out of college gets drafted by a team who is not considered a contender and does not have a lot of experience with winning and what it takes to win and they expect him to make them a winner. When he doesn't they trade him claiming he isn't a winner. See it is easier to do that instead on focusing on how can the team get better by that QB gaining experience both on the field and at the same time the coaching improves which will assist in his development. I guess we will see if that team's performance improves much. I am betting they will see some improvement at times but will continue to struggle most weeks.

I’m glad that he pointed out the circumstances to everyone and not saying she’s a bad driver. Everyone wants her to succeed and there are companies that want to fast track her success so they can ride on it. Too hard, too fast. Who has the financial patience to give her the time and experience to be successful?

I am HD fan, and thank you for not tearing her down like all the other channels. Other NASCAR Fans should listen to qualified individuals like both if you.

100%, you could see that. You could tell that the team really didn't have the experience to really help her. Listen to the conversation on the video's, they didn't know much more then she did.

Thank you for taking the time to dive into Hailie's current situation. It's looking like she got the raw end of the deal here. Hopefully her National Series career isn't over. I would love to see her back in a better situation. She clearly needs a quality mentor in her corner.

Wow…guess what?? Dale Jr. & TJ Majors together in studio was great chemistry 🏁🏁 Now the show has back that substance it was missing after MD left!

You and Kelly are the best thing I don't think you would regret it because I think Hailie will perform great for you guys I think you guys would think perfectly together I wish it would happen

Deegan has the raw talent to be successful, but raw talent can only get you so far. You have to listen to the people who have been there and have the knowledge and experience to refine that raw talent. I personally do not think Jr would have had the success he did if it wasn't for Dale Sr having him drive in the Busch Series for 2 yrs before bringing him up to Cup. Also, I don't see Jr taking a chance with her at this stage of her career. I think he learned a valuable lesson with Danica Patrick when she drove/ wrecked for Jr Motorsports.

Probably the best explanation I’ve heard so far that she didn’t have the experience in the car to tell her crew what she needed to make the car better 👍

I think Brett said it best on DBC; the other drivers don’t race Joey the way they race Hailie.

Money can get you there, but it won't keep you there.

Thank you for your respectful discussion about Hailey. I have really enjoyed listening to her channel over the last few years. As they taught her, i also learned a lot about racing.Other channels are not so respectful, and they bring in the fact that she is a woman and she doesn't belong in this man's world.

I absolutely love the Deegan family, wish her the best.

Dale sign her start her with the cars tour and teach her what you know.

Thanks Jr, people might actually listen to you. AM Racing commited to a new team dynamic, with Deegan as the driver. They produced a car that ran 2 sec slower, a pit crew that pulled off many 18 sec pit stops, and a crew chief that was not ready to be a crew chief. Logano did ok, but practiced and qualified the car not much better than Deegan averaged. His experience brought the car up to 8th. Did you hear about the crew chief he had at Chicago? He was asking the driver how much tire pressure he needed to put in. As far as last year, Moffett had a different crew and crew chief. You simply can't compare the old to the new. AM Racing misrepresented the end goal to Deegan. It's that simple. It was so bad a situation that even Jeff Burton was calling her "afraid" at Iowa while on TV.

didn't she leave toyota? I know Toyota is known for fostering young talents and have a good development program. That's her own doing. no tears from me.

The crew chief at am racing didn’t know how to adjust tire pressure. I think it was a combo of both her inexperience and the teams inability to do their job

I hope she gets a good opportunity very soon.

I feel Jr. and TJ have a very fair assessment of Haillie. And in my opinion she has a good head on her shoulders, works hard, and like they say she's good for NASCAR. I agree that in right situation she can have an accomplished NASCAR career. She will get another shot

Great discussion - well done. In a past time and place, Woods Brothers would be the right path

Im a big fan of hers, and wish her well. I also think she needs to get away from Ford

I bet Jr would not hire her......

Oh man, JR and TJ. I'm in, this would be almost as good as Mike being there.

TJ brings so much to a podcast. 👏👏👏

Looks to me that AM does not have the patience or ability to grow a rookie driver into a race winner.

Great answer!

Absolutely on point.. Hailey is bad fast.. BUT.. She needs a team that can not only set up her ride but a crew that can guide her when it comes to how to drive the setup.. Much love and Thanks so much for Sharing

I believe she has the talent and potential and I also believe she brings her financial support and sponsorship to a team. And she is good for the sport itself. Hopefully she finds a team where the balance is good for her and them and can learn and progress and become better

Keep going Hailie we're behind you 👍🇺🇸

That’s why she did good in srx . As much as srx was a race all the drivers talked . And David streeme seem to work with the drivers on adjusting those cars .

2 things, because her last name is Deagan, she is used for the publicity and lots of people think she is given everything because of her name and if they knew the family they would see that she has earned most of what she has gotten. Reguardless of her racing career, its in her genes to be a successful buiseness owner. She will be successful somewere.

If they have the funding,the need to get a coach/setup or evaluation driver to work with her to help her learn what to feel .

I am so glad you two, specifically you two, gave your take on the situation and Halie's capability. It is something I believed was true but really have no way of verifying it. Thank you! 👍

I really appreciate yall talking about this a lot of great points made during this and i agree she's amazing for the sport would definitely hate to see her go somewhere else

Bravo!! Well deserved understanding and encouragement from a racing legend!! Showing NASCAR ❤

Get her on the show

I think Hailie needs a good patient teacher to help her along. She has talent but she needs time to learn to talk to the crew on what her car needs.

❤, the show.

One of the things you hear on the radio traffic for her is keep in the back and go for it last stage, if you're racing, you're running 110% the whole time to get that experience imo, everyone else is.

I think this has been the most accurate, fair , and true comment about this situation. Alot of the comments in other forums have been really brutal and just pure hating on her and This is what is really going on . Dale Jr is my favorite driver and his opinion , and tj major are spot on.experienced driver experienced spotter. Hailie is a major talent . She needs to see this and follow these 2 guys advice.

If she is so “incredibly” talented then there would be a ride for her. Incredibly talented is a Larson. She should have stayed back in the one of the other series and become a top talent.

But what was she supposed to do? They signed her to a three-year contract They didn’t even honor the three-year contract because after 12 or 13 races, they decided that she was no good when they according to report pursued her. You had to know after the three or four races that she couldn’t give them the proper feedback that they needed to help her so somebody should’ve been able to come in and help her.

Offroad where she isn't used as a marketing puppet

A lot is perception. I do believe she has talent. But! She comes across as being more interested in her social media than racing. In 2022 at the spring Daytona race, there was a little girl sitting in front of me all decked out in Hailie garb. During introductions, all the drivers were waving at the fans from the back of the pickups. Hailie had her face buried in her phone. The messages can wait 10 minutes. The little girl was calling her name and was crushed when Deegan did not respond. "Mom, she didn't even look up". Very sad.

Thanks for this video. TJ echoed the points that I've posted to all the Hailie haters that she needed coaching from a much more skilled driver or crew chief on what she needs to be looking for in the car, in herself to get better qualifying and race results. I think she should go to a racing school or find some series that she can grow outside NASCAR's anal practice and testing Rules

She should go late model racing and learn about setup so she doesn't need to rely on someone else. She did pretty well in ARCA but wasn't there very long before she got up to trucks and Xfinity.

Hey Jr… you have a garage full of cars! Slide her right in one😂 I hear she has her own sponsor!

So what about the other younger (than Deegen) drivers who have found success in Trucks and Xfinity ? Whats the argument for their success ?

It takes awhile to get adjusted with a cup car, some have it and some don't. She needs time and Jr could give that to her if hired.

I'm so glad that he has the perspective to see that this isn't just a Halie situation. There is no doubt that she has talent, much like almost every driver that's ever set foot in the top 3 series. Another driver who had a forgettable Xfinity drive, awkwardly so for JR, was Ben Rhodes. Two time truck champion, always competitive in that series. Had a single top 10 and 4 finishes in the 30s in his limited JR motorsports starts. Compare that to any of the cup guys that got into that 88 car and his young stats wilt.

If her dedication was with racing like she does on KZfaq maybe she would still have a ride.

She needs to look at SVG and follow his methodology to NASCAR. SVG raced in a number of different categories to learn different skills and to be exposed to different race teams. It meant that SVG is not a one trick pony who specialises in just V8 Supercars. He has experience in open wheelers in NZ, V8 Supercars in Australia, he raced GT3 Sportcars at Monza, Silverstone, Paul Ricard, Spa 24 hours and Nurburgring, IMSA Sportscars at Daytona 24 hours and Sebring 12 hours and even around of the WRC. SVG earned his money in V8 Supercars but made sure his racecraft was honed across multiple series and that he was exposed to different teams, different conditions and different types of setup. In 2016 he travelled overseas for the Daytona 24 hour, the Spa 24 hour, sportscar races at Monza, Silverstone, Spa and Nurburging. Each of these events happened during a season he was fighting for the V8 Supercar championship and each involved 24 hour flights and short turnarounds. He was prepared to risk his main source of income in V8 Supercars to gain experience and skills across multiple categories. Hailie needs to get her backside into any racing category anywhere in the world to improve her racecraft, her only criteria should be making sure she is with a team that has a competitive car and that has experience. Her time in the NASCAR pyramid has not developed her racecraft enough and she needs to grab every opportunity. 24 hour races at Nurburgring, Spa and Daytona would inject massive experience and racecraft and give her the chance to work with experienced drivers as team mates and with experienced teams and their sheer length would quickly give her more experience. Every V8 Supercar team needs a co-driver for Bathurst again she needs to get herself into a seat in an event that just by its very length will give her experience and in a two car team will expose her to three team mates with experience that she can learn from. Right now her commercial brand relies on image rather than experience and image is unfortunately transitory.

Good job Junior. Haley has a lot of talent.

The JGR Xfinity program has given opportunities to several drivers in one off deals to drive their cars and most have done well even though they hadn’t done much with other lower funded teams, I’m sure she could probably get the funding to try that route like others have, that might show where she stands talent wise as those cars have shown to be front runners with just about anyone who drives them.

She and other rookies who came in around 2020, never got the same opportunities as every driver before them with practices, qualifying and all that hands on experience either, which was detrimental to their careers. It would be nice to see her get another chance, but I feel like after seeing Joey put up an 8th, this may have been her last real chance to shine.

I'm sure Hailey would benift greatly with some JRM suport, and it would open up a new fan base for JRM. Sounds like a win win situation to me. Maybe put her in the Car's tour for a few races? But first, and formost Hailey needs to be in a Chevrolet!

Pick her up Jr you have a way to make her a great driver you done proved that you can do it lol I just started following her darn it

Wonder if she would do a Preece deal or a Ryan Truex deal where she can put together a part time schedule in a decent car and then use a couple good runs to propel herself into a better ride for the next year.

Dale Jr. Would you sign her act as her coach. She is talented but as you said she doesn’t know what she wants..

She had David Ragan as her driver coach, has been in CHAMPIONSHIP equipment at Thorsport and couldn't get it done. IMO AM racing saw her focus probably wasn't 1000% on driving instead of worrying about her own brand and channel they told her to kick rocks.

Deegan advanced from full time ARCA to full time Xfinity in less time than a lot of people advance from one ARCA to trucks. Although there are a million ways to skin a cat, I'd personally like to see her move back to ARCA and work on her race craft. She was a contender in that series, and having the ability to run up towards the front would allow her time to gain experience in other aspects to help her overall improve her race craft, as opposed to the Truck and Xfinity series where she was often being enveloped in the pack, and spent a lot of time just trying to see the checkered flag. Learning to swim is a lot easier when you're not drowning. Also, Budweiser Select 55 is my new beer of choice. lol. Thats all.

I think the right scenario is you and Kelly Bell really seriously

I'm rooting for her. A rookie team paired with a rookie driver...what did they expect? Smoke needs to put her in a car with a good team.

She drove for an awesome truck team and did horrible.

Offroad Representation

That's what I love about Ryan Vargas. He went DOWN for a year and is driving in EuroNASCAR to get that road course experience. He knows where he is lacking and is going to where he can hone his skills and come back faster and more competative. One day, he will be a star, who knows, maybe even in a cup car.

This is also the problem when you have top tier drivers also racing in the lower tiers. If your in the main game you shouldn't be also racing in the lower tiers taking opportunities away from people. Xfinity is really bad for this and it takes opportunity away from developing drivers who are already struggling with track time limitations as it is.

Hailie Deegan only chance is to cut ties with Ford, her career has gone no where since being a Ford Development Driver. 4 years in Ford. 4 years of Disappointment. If a Tricon Garage seat opens up, that is her chance.

come on dale man i was out there in traffic side drafting drafting up hill taking care of my stuff dang man

She did so well at the Roar Before the 24 a couple of years back. I hope she considers looking into IMSA

Just like a lot of very talented drivers, I think Hailie Deegan needs to be driving for a team that has better infrastructure, better, pit crew, better all around organization, and most of all an Owner and Team that BELIEVES IN HER ABILITY... She also gets a raw deal out on the track wear a lot of drivers Billy her, damage her car, flat out take her out the race, now weather they do it because they don't want her there or they do it because they are afraid of losing to her, losing to a girl and get tons of backlash and being made fun of w/ the whole " Haha you got beat by a girl" and should these guys race her clean and she finally gets the chance to drive without having to be defensive the entire race constantly mirror driving and watching for who's around her, who's gonna put her in the wall, run her up the track, whatever the case. I believe if she can run her race the way she wants to run and NOT WORRY about being wrecked every weekend, I guarantee she would finish at least 8 - 13 spots better if not win the race. I bet she can run top 5's and 10's almost every weekend if she can race her race and NOT RACE 50% of the field defensively, mirror driving the entire race.. Anyone who watches Xfinity can flat out see how some of these guys race her. I'm very confused as to why they never get an invite to the NASCAR TRAILER after the race weekend in an weekend out.

Come on Dale hook her up

I think she would be a great add to you team dale jr

I was at Portland sitting in turn one chicain, she was like 10 miles an hour slower than everybody else going though there almost stopping. why she was a lap down just over half way.

Put her in one of your cars for a race or two. Help her out

How about we give more practice time, just a thought

Hailee has a lot of avenues she can take. She got 💰💰 wherever She goes. Go Girl!!

You’re the one that hires drivers to develop them Dale so you should hire her!!

If she didn’t do well in trucks why would she do well in xfinity?

She should move to NHRA Already about a dozen female drivers, with a few being class champions. She won't stand out as much.... Unless that's what she wants to do. She did seem to pay a lot of attention to her KZfaq channel.

Danica was lightweight the advantage in indy car. The same reason EV has become dominant yet. It is lighter weight at tech with equal hp. That ABB is a dam GT3

This is the same thing that happened with Danica, imo. Rushed up the ladder when more time at lower levels would have benefitted them and given them more experience and knowledge before moving up.

Deegan got screwed when Joe Williams her crew chief was fired they were getting faster and she seemed very pissed off after he got fired Also if Ford wants to salvage her career go to Hass say take deegan and preece have him mentor her or just send her to RSS that's just a ton of experience all over that team

Well there you go jr, hire her for one of your cars if a spot becomes available next season or part time her. If you believe what you are saying, then give her a chance for her to show everyone what she has in a jrm car and maybe a decent team would pick her up and silence the doubters. That’s something I can get behind.👍

I keep thinking that if Xfinity and NASCAR as a whole doesn't work out, she should pursue the IMSA route fully (with Ford support), Look at The Iron Dames team, They are a team of all women. They run great and are contenders for the win 60%-70% of the time. If she can do well in the Michelin Pilot Challenge, VP Sportscar Challenge, or even Mustang Challenge, I could see her eventually getting a call from the Ford GT3 factory team or any Ford customer teams.

Ive actually been a fan of hers for years because i remember her dad and the metal militia. Ive probably seen her 3 times race in person. Sorry she DOES NOT HAVE IT. I understand shes a young girl who is cute and posts on Instagram a lot because i follow her and its just sad seeing comments. Shes good looking and got decent as a driver. Actually her brother is a true superstar yet nobody talks about him. Everyone needs to stop pushing her as a professional cup driver because shes a good looking girl.

AM Racing can’t afford to replace torn up race cars. She doesn’t know how to set up a car.

You notice jr is not inviting Hallie over to their organization. Kelly his sister has been promoting we need girls in the sport bla bla. She sucks they know it you hear it in the conversation ah well ok well maybe bla bla

Does Hailey's team have a test driver like factory test riders in supercross to help set up the car guys who have experience get the car competitive but don't race?

She is about to be the best " Monster Truck" driver ever. Mark my words.

I hope harrison burton can get in the 15 full time

Remember, she's 22. She's got time to bounce back if she wants

JR Motorsports should hire her.

She did great in Stewart race