Half Derivative of x

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Dr Peyam

Dr Peyam

6 жыл бұрын

You may be familiar with derivatives, but do you know how to take half-derivatives? What does that even mean? In this video I define the concept of a half derivative, and then calculate the half-derivative of x^n, and then show what that result is for x. The answer may surprise you, or maybe not :P
Sequel: • Half derivative of cos x

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@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
Here’s a link to the sequel: Fractional derivatives of exponential and trigonometric functions kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oZiEY7ya0bbWh6s.html Some applications of fractional derivatives: There are surprisingly many applications of this, because it turns out that some differential equations in physics are written in terms of fractional derivatives, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional_calculus#Applications There are three other ones I can think of: 1) In functional analysis, it's an important problem to find a square root of an operator (I don't really know why, maybe to decompose that operator?), and what we really did is to find a square root of the derivative operator, because if you apply D1/2 twice, you get D, so (D1/2)^2 = D, so D1/2 = sqrt(D) in some sense. 2) There is the nice formula in Fourier analysis that says that the Fourier transform of f' is integral of x e^(i something), and we have a similar formula for the fractional derivative, (I think, don't quote me on that) that the Fourier transform of D^(1/2) f is integral of x^(1/2) e^(i something). 3) Fractional derivatives allow us to define nice spaces of functions (for example, those whose fractional derivatives exist and are square integrable), and sometimes in differential equations you have a solution that is not defined in the classical sense (i.e. continuously differentiable), but might belong to this nice space, which allows us to study those equations.
@fimblewinter7806
@fimblewinter7806 6 жыл бұрын
so what would that mean you can have a ith derivative
@flatfingertuning727
@flatfingertuning727 6 жыл бұрын
In electronic filtering applications, an integrator may be used as a low-pass filter that attenuates signals by ~6dB/octave (a factor of two in amplitude for a factor of two in frequency) and a differentiator may be be used as a 6dB/octave high-pass filter. Integration and differentiation thus behaves as filters whose amplitude/frequency function, plotted on a log/log scale, would have slopes of -1 and +1, respectively. I would expect that non-generalized derivatives and integrals would behave as filters whose slope on a log/log scale is the order of the derivative.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
2=1+1
@OonHan
@OonHan 6 жыл бұрын
7=4+3
@GetSmart008
@GetSmart008 6 жыл бұрын
Prove 1+1 is 2 or site Cantor`s proof. Doc P can frCTIONAL DERIVATIVES BE DEFINEd using Fourier pseudodiff operators? If so do a video. TIA
@Gameboygenius
@Gameboygenius 6 жыл бұрын
*gives blackpenredpen a cookie* (Oreo brand, of course.)
@hassanalihusseini1717
@hassanalihusseini1717 6 жыл бұрын
2+2=5
@chasemarangu
@chasemarangu 6 жыл бұрын
and 1+1=2 communicative property of addition don't forget that either
@pco246
@pco246 6 жыл бұрын
It now seems obvious that not all derivatives should be positive integers. In fact, when you think about it, negative derivatives are integral to math and science
@neck2b
@neck2b 6 жыл бұрын
PCreeper394 god damnit
@srimayikorrapati9423
@srimayikorrapati9423 6 жыл бұрын
OH MAN HAD TO READ THAT THRICE BECAUSE I KNEW I WAS MISSING SOMETHING
@OfficialMrQ
@OfficialMrQ 6 жыл бұрын
let's try complex derivatives
@rajdeepyadav4590
@rajdeepyadav4590 5 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMrQ That could be complex
@aliciatamayo6680
@aliciatamayo6680 4 жыл бұрын
a+b
@fountainovaphilosopher8112
@fountainovaphilosopher8112 6 жыл бұрын
1:25 Maan, you're gonna kill me with high-level mathematics.
@JaydentheMathGuy
@JaydentheMathGuy 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not ready for Ph.D. level math yet! I'm still in high school!
@brian554xx
@brian554xx 6 жыл бұрын
If I watch this video while half asleep, and watch it again while half asleep, will I have watched it in my sleep?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, they say that sleeping is addi(c)tive! :P
@brian554xx
@brian554xx 6 жыл бұрын
Never realized how mathematical a bed can be. Multiplication _and_ addi(c)tion?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, a bed is an algebra then 😂
@poetu2951
@poetu2951 6 жыл бұрын
Now do the half-integral !
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
Poetu Hahaha, great idea!!! :D I'm guessing it should be constant times x^3/2 :)
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
OMG, guess what!!! If you assume that the half-derivative of the half-integral of a function is just the function itself, then: Claim: The half-integral of a function is just the half derivative of the ordinary integral! Here's why: By definition, the half integral int^(1/2) should satisfy: int^(1/2) (int^(1/2) f) = int f (the integral of f) Now take half derivatives on both sides: D^(1/2) int^(1/2) (int^(1/2) f) = D^(1/2) int f Now assuming that the half derivative of the half integral of a function is just the function itself, we then get int^(1/2) f = D^(1/2) (int f) Ta-daa!!!! :D
@OonHan
@OonHan 6 жыл бұрын
Dr. Peyam's Show amazing!
@MagicGonads
@MagicGonads 6 жыл бұрын
I totally read that in your voice
@Gameboygenius
@Gameboygenius 6 жыл бұрын
Remember, if you do the half integral, make sure you only add C/2 at the end!
@JLConawayII
@JLConawayII 6 жыл бұрын
What I learned today: 2=1+1. Thanks Dr. Peyam!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
I did too!!
@mihaiciorobitca5287
@mihaiciorobitca5287 6 жыл бұрын
i learned today that 2=bprp+dr. peyam i love '2' !!!
@tricky778
@tricky778 2 жыл бұрын
but also that 2≠½+1+½
@k_wl
@k_wl Жыл бұрын
and 7 = 4 + 3
@TheFerdi265
@TheFerdi265 6 жыл бұрын
"A derivative is a derivative, you can't say it's only a half" Joking aside, really great video
@VikeingBlade
@VikeingBlade 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@alexanderm5728
@alexanderm5728 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw this video I looked for this comment.
@gdash6925
@gdash6925 4 жыл бұрын
Well Dr """"""""""Peyam"""""""" yoshi.
@epalegmail
@epalegmail 4 жыл бұрын
God tier coment
@deedewald1707
@deedewald1707 3 жыл бұрын
Is this a half video TOO !
@gnikola2013
@gnikola2013 6 жыл бұрын
I am super excited to watch this video, because actually I have thought about this concept of non-interger order derivatives some years ago, when I was like 16 or so. However I obviously didn't have the tools nor the knowledge to actually develop the idea. But know I'm watching someone who thought about this like I did! Amazing!
@firebrain2991
@firebrain2991 6 жыл бұрын
Hell, I did the same thing, but I looked up the gamma function, tried to read the Wikipedia article, and gave up.
@afadeevz
@afadeevz 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about negative-order derivative
@gnikola2013
@gnikola2013 6 жыл бұрын
Alexander Fadeev there would be integrals. I think Peyam shows this in other video or in this one. The point is that if the derivative of f is D^1(f), then considering that the grade of the derivative is equal to the sum of the "exponents", and that any function is its own 0th derivative, then D^-1(D^1(f)) = f. Considering the fundamental theorem of calculus, of derive a function and then integrate it you get the original function. Also, considering that integration also satisfies the linear transformation properties, we can assume that D^-1(f) is the integral of f. (Technically you also have a constant of integration, but I've neglected it for demonstration purposes)
@bcthoburn
@bcthoburn 5 жыл бұрын
SAME. Me too, I considered it as he did but wasn’t thinking about the linearity thing and never tried one.
@sowmyag5142
@sowmyag5142 5 жыл бұрын
R u Indian?
@49fa75
@49fa75 5 жыл бұрын
Your enthusiasm about this beautiful art is contagious, sir. You are amazing.
@Gameboygenius
@Gameboygenius 6 жыл бұрын
This is the quality content I came here for. Please explore the properties of non-integer derivatives of some non-polynomials!
@_cytosine
@_cytosine 4 жыл бұрын
"A derivative is a derivative. You can't say it's only a half." - TJ Henry Yoshi
@dominickrobinson332
@dominickrobinson332 4 жыл бұрын
Computer pannenkoek2012 heck yes
@rubixtheslime
@rubixtheslime 4 жыл бұрын
A few years back, I thought of the idea of a half-derivative. I realized that sinx and e^x work quite well, being sin(x + pi/4) and e^x. The only thing was, I almost felt like people would laugh at me for proposing something so ridiculous. Of course now I'm actually quite relieved to see that at least one other person was just as crazy as me, and I kinda wish I wouldn't have convinced myself that it having no apparent application it was useless. I mean like a lot of math was discovered before it was needed, so... I think I should probably finally figure out the half-derivative chain rule.
@Fircasice
@Fircasice 6 жыл бұрын
Both you and blackpenredpen rock! Keep those awesome math videos coming!
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!!! bprp and I really appreciate it!!!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!
@roygalaasen
@roygalaasen 6 жыл бұрын
Is it blackpenredpen that I can hear in the background? Edit: err probably since he commented on this comment lol...
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
roygalaasen loll yes.
@starmealon4223
@starmealon4223 4 жыл бұрын
KZfaq started this rabbit hole for me, and I’m glad it finally brought me to the video that has the best explanation I’ve seen so far!
@koenth2359
@koenth2359 6 жыл бұрын
This is great stuff! Never thought of the concept of fractional order derivatives, but it comes so naturally. Thanks Dr P!
@mustafamalik4211
@mustafamalik4211 3 жыл бұрын
This was a fascinating video, it had everything: Derivatives, Gamma Function and the Gaussian Integral. Thank you Dr. Peyam!
@theirreghoular8435
@theirreghoular8435 6 жыл бұрын
I just learnt derivatives in School and watched this entirely video without getting a single thing and enjoyed the hell out of it only from watching the hype and excitement. Wished i had you as a teacher xD. Keep it up ^^ :3
@lumi2030
@lumi2030 3 жыл бұрын
this dude is just filled to the brim with positive energy
@wilderuhl3450
@wilderuhl3450 2 жыл бұрын
Your excitement is contagious. Love your personality.
@pendalink
@pendalink 6 жыл бұрын
What a fun video. Interesting topic, and it was great to see you guys having so much fun with the maths. Subbed :)
@kamoroso94
@kamoroso94 6 жыл бұрын
This is only the first video of yours I've seen, but it's so dang good I had to subscribe!
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!!!! :D
@luisrosano3510
@luisrosano3510 5 жыл бұрын
I nenver, ever imagine that this could be posible. Your channel is amazing.
@user-ed1tg9rj1e
@user-ed1tg9rj1e 5 жыл бұрын
Wow I really wonderred if there's any way to define derivative 'continuously' when I first knew the second and third derivative and this video answers my question in 20 mins! I really enjoyed this video and now I wonder how to define half derivative in analytic way. Thank you Dr. Peyam!!
@ctogaurav
@ctogaurav 5 жыл бұрын
Your video is cool! The half derivative of a function is really a great thing; I want to learn more about it. But, I want to know what is the geometrical interpretation of half derivative?
@chimetimepaprika
@chimetimepaprika 5 жыл бұрын
That got a lot more tricky than I anticipated. Well played!
@ishwar8119
@ishwar8119 6 жыл бұрын
I love how he always sneaks in pop culture references into his videos
@snakespeak
@snakespeak 6 жыл бұрын
Good Gamma, what a mind blower! I need a straight jacket!
@UnforsakenXII
@UnforsakenXII 6 жыл бұрын
Such a happy presentation. I get to go to sleep thinking about fractional calculus, thanks. : )
@alberto3071
@alberto3071 6 жыл бұрын
Incredibly amazed. Great video!!!
@larryli2752
@larryli2752 6 жыл бұрын
I have never thought about this before. Amazing!
@aee220phmunirabad
@aee220phmunirabad 3 жыл бұрын
Mind blowing half derivative.... of x Simply amazing. Dr. Peyam always master of mathematics
@davidwright8432
@davidwright8432 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dr. Peyem! Very clear; each step made sense Now I need to think, re-view and internalize the whole thing! Then I'll be able to grin a Cheshire-cat-like grin, and know what I'm talking about.
@davidwright8432
@davidwright8432 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kudos, Dr Peyam! The Cheshire Cat now awards himself a generous saucer of double cream.
@afifakimih8823
@afifakimih8823 5 жыл бұрын
"When Dr. Peyam teaches It's a show" believe me It is absolutely true.💜💜💜 Dr. Peyam show is very addictive.if someone enter this show,he/she never go out.
@jumperluk6267
@jumperluk6267 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I always asked myself if this could be possible. Very nice job
@researchersworld4718
@researchersworld4718 3 жыл бұрын
I have done so many proofs in Undergraduate Maths but I never enjoyed it. finding you I am enjoying learning mathematics. Thank you Sir.
@ericlizalde5362
@ericlizalde5362 6 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos, much more than before!!
@GinoGiotto
@GinoGiotto 6 жыл бұрын
This stuff is amazing! Good work guys!
@firasnizam
@firasnizam 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work, thanks for sharing this wonderful work
@abhijeetkushwaha424
@abhijeetkushwaha424 5 жыл бұрын
2 =1+1 BPRP : LAUGHS LIKE CRAZY Fast forward to 2019: BPRP: 2=1+1
@cycklist
@cycklist 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Your best video yet.
@hopp2184
@hopp2184 6 жыл бұрын
Dr Payem! What about negative derivatives, are they possible? Or is that an integral? What about complex derivatives? (The i-th derivative of x) Maybe this can be used to create some very hard differential equations. This is an eye opener thanks for the amazing video.
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
Ahsoka Tano Indeed the -1th derivative of f is just the integral of f, because by definition we should have D(D-1 f) = f, and similarly the -alpha derivative of f is the integral of the alpha derivative of f. Not sure about complex numbers, but since Gamma is defined for complex numbers this might actually work! I'll check it out and see what happens, but I'm guessing it's just a constant times x^(1-i)
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
Ahsoka Tano Oh, and there are indeed differential equations with fractional derivatives! Check out one of the comments below where I put some applications!
@GermanSnipe14
@GermanSnipe14 6 жыл бұрын
Wait but wouldn't the kth derivative (where k is a negative natural number) not exist for x^n since that would yield a negative natural number in the gamma function, which isn't defined?
@OonHan
@OonHan 6 жыл бұрын
Dr Peyam yay
@MagicGonads
@MagicGonads 6 жыл бұрын
And yet, GermanSnipe14, we can very easily integrate x to obtain it's kth integrals (where k is positive natural number), so I think this generic definition of the derivative is incomplete, do we need to make a special gamma function so that it has satisfactory values?
@camilosuarez9724
@camilosuarez9724 4 жыл бұрын
as always :) just beautiful !! thanks Dr Peyman
@marsag3118
@marsag3118 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Kakà is now a calculus teacher... great explanation by the way!
@sea34101
@sea34101 6 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: It is not possible to extend that result to any continously differentiable function.
@turbopotato4575
@turbopotato4575 6 жыл бұрын
Why not? He claimed it is a linear operator so polynomials and power series are half-differentiable and thus so are all holomorphic functions which even though still doesnt cover all continuously differentiable functions it includes most elementary functions
@sea34101
@sea34101 6 жыл бұрын
turbo potato As an exercise try to calculate the half derivative of x->1 (this only requires basic linear algebra), this will lead to a contradiction.
@maxvilla5005
@maxvilla5005 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't "f(x)=x" a continuous, differentiable function? So the last result shown in the video is not valid?
@mpalssonur
@mpalssonur 6 жыл бұрын
Wait... what do you mean?
@douggwyn9656
@douggwyn9656 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for supplying a little bit of actual math here.
@TSPxEclipse
@TSPxEclipse 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just waiting for a practical use of this incredible and ridiculously complicated piece of art.
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
See the pinned comment for applications :)
@thecountoftuscany9493
@thecountoftuscany9493 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you very much sir!
@InXLsisDeo
@InXLsisDeo 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting ! I learned something today.
@kamalrihani9609
@kamalrihani9609 5 жыл бұрын
Hi ,10 ans passés que j'attends cette démonstration , en fait j'ai lu dans livre de distributions mathématiques mais sans aucune indication ,c'est magique ,les mathématiques avancent plus vite que la physique ,certainement il y aura l application de cette formule ,MERI Dr, c'est génial. write in French.
@sahilnaik3079
@sahilnaik3079 5 жыл бұрын
Sir you are a legend. Mind blown!!!
@youssefts
@youssefts 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! 6 min in and im already impressed!
@joeremus9039
@joeremus9039 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, I really enjoyed it Dr Payam Show.
@tmogoreanu
@tmogoreanu 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Dr., thanks
@spencertaylor6910
@spencertaylor6910 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. You just earned a sub
@ACTlVISION
@ACTlVISION 6 жыл бұрын
Wish my calc 2 course covered this, neat stuff
@yeshuaisrael2090
@yeshuaisrael2090 5 жыл бұрын
I can't say nothing just wooooowww! I haven't seen something like this. Everything makes sense. You're awesome 😮
@treksci-math9909
@treksci-math9909 2 жыл бұрын
He is the happiest person I've ever seen.
@wronger0123
@wronger0123 5 жыл бұрын
Dr Peyam! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL MY LIFE???!!!
@RAJAT6555
@RAJAT6555 5 жыл бұрын
For those wanting to read up on this subject, there is a book published by Dover Publications and authored by KB Oldham and J Spanier. It is a good introduction to the subject.
@sherllymentalism4756
@sherllymentalism4756 5 жыл бұрын
What's it called?
@RAJAT6555
@RAJAT6555 5 жыл бұрын
Here it is: b-ok.cc/book/2315244/757a6e
@baskara3668
@baskara3668 4 жыл бұрын
@@RAJAT6555 Thank you so much...
@brendawilliams8062
@brendawilliams8062 2 жыл бұрын
You all are enjoying yourselves. Thx. For the video.
@RJYounglingTricking
@RJYounglingTricking 4 жыл бұрын
This was soooooooo fucking legit
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@rishumohanka4832
@rishumohanka4832 6 жыл бұрын
This was a really awesome video, but I had a couple questions. Is it mathematically rigorous to treat the derivative operators as variables when you kind of add the "exponents"/n-th order on the derivative operator? If not, what is the mathematically rigorous way to defined fractional derivatives? Also, what do fractional derivatives conceptually mean (I know what a regular derivative conceptually mean, but it's hard for me to visualize a fractional derivative)?
@christopherclements5909
@christopherclements5909 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome lesson!
@redline6802
@redline6802 6 жыл бұрын
what happens when you take the derivative of the value you get when you change the order of the derivative of a function?
@markzero8291
@markzero8291 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! Do you know of any applications of fractional derivatives? Why might someone want to calculate fractional derivatives?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
There are surprisingly many applications of this, because it turns out that some differential equations in physics are written in terms of fractional derivatives, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional_calculus#Applications There are three other ones I can think of: 1) In functional analysis, it's an important problem to find a square root of an operator (I don't really know why, maybe to decompose that operator?), and what we really did is to find a square root of the derivative operator, because if you apply D1/2 twice, you get D, so (D1/2)^2 = D, so D1/2 = sqrt(D) in some sense. 2) There is the nice formula in Fourier analysis that says that the Fourier transform of f' is integral of x e^(i something), and we have a similar formula for the fractional derivative, (I think, don't quote me on that) that the Fourier transform of D^(1/2) f is integral of x^(1/2) e^(i something). 3) Fractional derivatives allow us to define nice spaces of functions (for example, those whose fractional derivatives exist and are square integrable), and sometimes in differential equations you have a solution that is not defined in the classical sense (i.e. continuously differentiable), but might belong to this nice space, which allows us to study those equations.
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
Ahsoka Tano This is the comment I was referring to!
@markzero8291
@markzero8291 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr. Peyam!
@paulg444
@paulg444 3 жыл бұрын
I love their energy !!!
@johnwroblewski6458
@johnwroblewski6458 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was wondering if the linearity of the half derivative is ever proved, or if we just assume it?
@armchair8258
@armchair8258 Жыл бұрын
great stuff and camerawork!
@WerIstWieJesus
@WerIstWieJesus 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation and presentation of the non-integer derivation of the monoms. I would have two other candidates for similar cases to examine: 1) You could take the taylor development of the square root and apply it to the derivative operator. 2) You could take the Fourier analysis of the function you want to derivate and then the n-th derivative of sin(omega x) is (omega^n)*sin(omega x + n*pi/2) and the n-th derivative of cos(omega x) is (omega^n)*cos(omega x + n*pi/2).
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 жыл бұрын
Check out my playlist, I do precisely that
@arunkumarcs9191
@arunkumarcs9191 3 жыл бұрын
You just rekindled my inner math fire! ❤️😍
@davidacus956
@davidacus956 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an animation of a plot as you let the derivative vary. I wonder if it would be a smooth animation
@vitoj568
@vitoj568 5 жыл бұрын
How beautiful this prove steps, thanks
@shiwamsingroul1367
@shiwamsingroul1367 5 жыл бұрын
Man, you're so cool!! I wish i was as good as you , in maths
@HarryRunes
@HarryRunes 6 жыл бұрын
wow awesome video, interesting content presented in an interesting way
@IshaaqNewton
@IshaaqNewton 4 жыл бұрын
Wow.... That's why I love math. And that's why I love you,Sir....
@gergelyfazekas7285
@gergelyfazekas7285 5 жыл бұрын
I was solving integrals the other day and writing up the n-th derivative of certain functions, and I was wondering, what if we plug in a fraction into n? Looks like it wasn't that crazy of a thought after all :D
@salonisharma4-yrb.tech.c-pj4sp
@salonisharma4-yrb.tech.c-pj4sp 6 ай бұрын
How amazingly u explained , thanku so much 😃😃
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 ай бұрын
My pleasure 😊
@tomvanmoer8202
@tomvanmoer8202 6 жыл бұрын
Dr. Peyam is a great man.
@ahmadnoor2972
@ahmadnoor2972 3 жыл бұрын
Really good work 👍.
@adrianarulseelan5126
@adrianarulseelan5126 6 жыл бұрын
You kinda look like Ramanujan xD
@MiroslavMakaveli
@MiroslavMakaveli 6 жыл бұрын
Hahah!!! YES THATS TRUE BUT NOT FORGET THE TRUE GENIUS !!!
@alephnull4044
@alephnull4044 5 жыл бұрын
He does actually, now that you mention it. Haha
@arthurk7270
@arthurk7270 6 жыл бұрын
Do you extend this to non-polynomial functions by converting them into a Taylor series and applying the fractional derivative term wise?
@borisburd2951
@borisburd2951 5 жыл бұрын
The donkey kong joke caught me off guard hahaha so good
@anirvinvaddiyar7671
@anirvinvaddiyar7671 4 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering, does this have any application or is it just a fun thing?
@Orcosus
@Orcosus 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! Can you do another one about non-polynomial functions?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
There will be one coming soon :)
@ritesharora6032
@ritesharora6032 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do video explaining what are cosets and how do they partition the group and why is that equivalence relation defined on group in that way? I just cannot get that no matter how much i read
@johannesh7610
@johannesh7610 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great and natural extension of derivatives. Just like we define the 3rd operation (exponentiation) first as repeatedly multiplying ^n , then finding an inverse ^1/n and therefore having rational exponents, you apply this to the "multiplication" of differential operators. On another note, I am always annoyed by the shift in the operand of the gamma function. I prefer having Π(n) = n!, which is much more intuitive and removes some unnecessary thinking efforts, just like with π=τ/2 (why alway 2 π, if you mean 1 period ? why always Γ(x) = x-1!).
@MrWorshipMe
@MrWorshipMe 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a better way to calculate the half derivative of trigonometric, exponential or logarithmic functions than using the method shown above to their respective Taylor's series?
@Musiclover5258
@Musiclover5258 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video, Dr. Peyam !! How can we generalize this for any arbitrary function of x? Perhaps via the following argument? Any "reasonable" function of x can be expressed as a power series in x, within an "applicable neighborhood". Half derivative can be applied to each individual term of the expansion, and then combined back by virtue of linearity?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 2 жыл бұрын
See playlist
@oanjenaldwrel3720
@oanjenaldwrel3720 6 жыл бұрын
wow!! this was awesome!
@thethug1946
@thethug1946 4 жыл бұрын
You are every bit as good as the 3b1b and bprp's of this world
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 жыл бұрын
❤️
@Mrwiseguy101690
@Mrwiseguy101690 6 жыл бұрын
I had the same idea as well. But instead of x^n, I chose xe^x. The nth derivative of xe^x is (x+n)e^x which is very simple and doesn't require any analytically continued functions.
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, that’s a beautiful example, I didn’t even think about that!
@Mrwiseguy101690
@Mrwiseguy101690 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks I was pretty proud of it haha. I just stumbled upon this channel today and I'm loving the content so far. Keep up the great work!
@METMfarhan
@METMfarhan 4 жыл бұрын
hey dr peyam i have never seen such thing in my maths class,although i studied calculus upto class 12. so could you please suggest me some resourses or some good books to study these stuffs of calculus
@ponirvea
@ponirvea 6 жыл бұрын
I'm rewatching this just to tell you you're awesome
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
Awwwwww, thanks!!!
@ekadria-bo4962
@ekadria-bo4962 6 жыл бұрын
How about Prdouct and Chain rule for fractional derivative?. Do more on Fractional Calculus..
@Eliasguitarred
@Eliasguitarred 4 жыл бұрын
I would kill for one calc class with Dr. Peyam
@carstenbode8251
@carstenbode8251 2 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff. Does is also work for an one half integral ?
@plaustrarius
@plaustrarius 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to see this concept described using vectors with a polynomial basis and the derivative transformation matrix. given that the square of the half derivative would give you the derivative, you should be able to describe half derivatives using the derivative transformation matrix and finding its square root. you should be able to easily generalize this to nth fractional derivatives using the eigenvalues of the matrix and then computing the fractional powers. does that seem right or am i completely off? Immediately i am becoming skeptical of imaginary derivatives, negative derivatives, irrational or transcendental derivatives etc. because of the branch nature of the nth root mapping would you find extraneous fractional derivatives? or that the n solutions would be on footing somehow, implying that there are n 1/nth fractional derivatives? so many questions i can hardly formulate them properly.
@joaopedrodonasolo680
@joaopedrodonasolo680 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@madhavpr
@madhavpr 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, as usual. :D Is there a way of defining fractional derivatives in terms of limits and best linear approximations?? Secondly, would half derivatives in higher dimensions have some connections with square roots of positive semi-definite linear operators?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 3 жыл бұрын
Yes check out my playlist for the limit thing. And yes this is precisely the square root of a derivative operator like in linear algebra
@madhavpr
@madhavpr 3 жыл бұрын
@@drpeyam Awesome. Will check it out.
@hadhad129
@hadhad129 6 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video explaining physically or geometrically the meaning of non-integer order derivatives, even complex number order derivatives?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
I wish there were a physical or geometric intuition for this, but unfortunately there isn’t. The only intuition is that people like to find square roots (y such that y^2 = x), so this is like the square root of a derivative. In other words, you split up the task of differentiating into two easier (?) tasks of half-differentiating. There are applications, though, which is discussed in one of the threads below
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