Of course it's salvageable. But the Eclipse is a piece of shit...so while I hate the ships we did get, I'm glad we didn't get that thing.

@@DoremiFasolatido1979 At least the Eclipse isn't just a CTRL-C CTRL-V ISD, upsized (without any regard to logic) and with an underslung cock

Agreed that movie was so laughably bad..

Imagine if we got the Legend Byss defense fleet instead of that copy-paste ISD... I meant Xyston class.

@@DoremiFasolatido1979 lol if not the Eclispe, then what SSD or large Imp vessel would have been better?

The assertor is a force to reckoned with

mandator 3 is underrated, my fav SSD

5 words: imperium class ultra star destroyer

Whatever it is, Eclipse can destroy any ship with just one shot.

Uh, didn't Executor survive 2 movies? And the Resurgence and ISDs survived both of their respective trilogies.

@@nooneofimportance2110 i agree

always hated how massive ships / weapons were destroyed so easy and cheap by rebels

@@KaiserBruh plot armor am i right? its so stupid

@@matthewwilson5019 Ikr! Whenever i saw one of those ships i was like wow, these ships are massive and amazing! But turns out, they are somehow easily destroyed

No, regardless of the size of an ISD, the Executor SD was obviously much longer than just three times the size of an ISD. Just look at the scenes of both Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi and you can clearly see it is at least 10 times longer.

Not quite! I was there in the forums, debating and discussing the diameter of the Executor-class SSD. Back in the 2000s. The EU novels all said 8km. Then it was later changed to 12.5km. Then it was finalised to 19km. The debating and acceptance was what we called the good old days. We used to call it the Super Star Destroyer Wars. I admit, I caused the Second SSD War. What? We're fans. It's who we are. We were the "Fleet Junkies" as they called us.

Great lil' story, good on you...sounds like those were the best times to be a SW nerd after all!

@@valentusdolor3742 Early days of the internet. Before social media turned everyone into hate obsessed, badmouthing, fake hating sheep. We had content disagreements, but always that underlining respect end of the day. The early 2000s was great.

"the past decade"? that's been a thing in legends longer than most the people still crying about big nasty disney have been alive

I like seeing the enormity of the way oversized star destroyers for the eye candy, but I’d love to see a storyline that really goes deep into using their capabilities or intended mission - probably fan film material. The writing has gotten, mmmmm, not great, with too much ‘trying to hard’ to make it DEI-approved, instead of developing characters (and the franchise) over many films. Now the characters, writing, and story lines seem forced, not complex or deep, and merely tick quota boxes. What I don’t understand is how Rogue One was just a phenomenal episode and how the others weren’t or aren’t. To me and my humbleness, Rogue One stands on its own for simply being a superb movie, and as impactful (again, to me) as A New Hope - and in 1977, when I was 7, ANH made an impression. Are the other tries really that bad because of DEI boxing out the creativity of the writers, or is the writing just that bad?

Yeah. The supremacy is just too big. 😁

@@Halfscreen although, you forgot about smaller more efficient ships, like Assertor(weapons like Executor, 15000m long), Vengance, and Praetor II(and If we count Xyston, I would include ISD Conqueror)

@@andrzejhinc6404 Yeah, I did remember them but should have put them on the list.

@@Halfscreen can you please talk about Borderlands ships

@@maxnewwolf Not sure since I know very little about the Borderland ships.

IT IS called the Disney move, Change the Plot and Logic of everything how they Just need IT so they need Not Work much

Glad it was helpful!

Actually in terms of size the Executor is #1.

@@Scar-Predator I thought Executor was 12-19 km in length (depending on source material), end Eclipse was the same length but bulkier and deeper. However, in terms of AWESOME, Executor is number #1 - 5 (it's so goddamn cool it IS the top 5 ships).

​@@Scar-Predator it is a little bit longer, but it's wingspan is way shorter then the sepremacy

The supremacy is just stupid

The assertor is cooler than both of those ships

Thanks and welcome

Glad you enjoyed it

You are very welcome

In terms of Power output and armaments. Both Venator and Secutor SDs were extremely underpowered. They were exceptional in other areas however.

While not canon. I love the Revenge class heavy carrier from IMPS the Relentless. One or two is ideal for any ISD based fleet as it compliment the usual lack of fighter covers.

@@absboodoo Oh yes! I love that ship!

​@@richardched6085the Venator was small, but it was actually very power dense for its size, since it was designed purely for the Clone War

Glad you enjoyed it!

LMAO. It's crap compared to the other destroyers

@@Betis91it eliminates most of the weaknesses of the isd2 tho

Thanks for watching!

Not confirmed in the lore. No clue where you go this idea from

The most horrifying thing about Xyston that it should have never existed in the first place. This is just an Imperial I Star Destroyer model that was scaled up and has a super laser instead of a hanger. The ability to destroy a whole planet using ship of it's size is just ridiculous. Better have Death Star IV instead, which is till pretty silly, but at least somewhat more believable. Hell, even Eclipse class could destroy only small moons despite it being way larger then Xyston.

​@@ReasonX3 agreed and the fact that there is a whole fleet of them is just retarded! Like 1 or 2 ships ok. But a whole fleet with of them with no other major capital ships is just weird.

@@ReasonX3 you know what makes it even more stupid and worse, the xyston was being build just after episode 5 and before episode 6, if you had a fleet of ships that could distroy planets why even bother with the second death star

Yes, yes, yes! I couldn’t agree more. There are so many stories and historical episodes that are out there, waiting to be put to paper. The franchise might need a change in ownership, and a different dedication to the story.

Good because Disney wars is fan fiction.

That would be nice but I think Disney doesn't care!

If Disney cared, we already would have got it

@@Halfscreen maybe you should do what disney doesnt want to do

@@matthewwilson5019 I have been thinking about that for a long while.

I am an imperial fan long live the Galactic Empire.

Yes, I basically model it myself. It's basically a combination of the Resurgent-class remodel.

Merci d'avoir regardé!

Well, you do in Empire Strikes Back when you see the landing force and troops that attack the base.

@@cchavezjr7 I don’t think that really covers it. You see dozens of stormtroopers and the ATATs sure, but that force is several thousand troopers and equipment. We’re still some 60,000 crew short and that’s asking me to believe was need 5000 guys to run a reactor, 10,000 guys to operate the navigation systems. It just doesn’t add up.

Sort of like Red Dwarf, but with Imperials? :P

Thanks for the visit

The Executor in the current canon is 19KM long, making it the longest space ship in all of Star Wars.

@@Scar-Predator No, it's not, they retconed the size from 7 to 19, trying to make ships bigger for no reason, plus 7-8km long is far easier to explain and develop.

@@LoneTiger Actually, the 12.8 km to 19 km range came from calculations of the onscreen ship in ESB and ROJ. The 7 km was the figure from the tech manual, but in no way matched what was seen on screen, not even remotely close. If you look at the scale between the actual filming models themselves, that is the ISD and Executor models that were filmed together in the same scene, then the Executor would be ~13.5 km long. The 19 km that the newer official guide books and blueprints have settled on can still fit within the uncertainty of measuring using the movie on screen sources only, but at the absolute very max it can be. It's definitely an interesting discussion, but that 13.5 km seems the true intended size as that is literally the size from the models themselves.

It kind of doesn't matter anymore since I used text to speech on all my videos.

The first order is not the empire, they had to make their own designs.

But this was because Palpatine Set Up everything as a trap

Well, this is done to save some time with the modeling process. I have a 3D model of the 2 but not the 1.

Yeah. I guess the empire has an unlimited amount of money.

Its fanon

It's inferior in all aspects

Same for me

Exactly! 😁

With good high command officers trusted by a strong eightinled emperor like Reinhard von Lohengramm or his wife Hilda the Empire is invicible ...unfortnaly Palpatine is not this type of ruler

It had heavier weapons. The Executor just had a much greater rate of fire, more weapons, better shields, a larger hangar, and was a newer ship. I likely missed some other facts.

@@90skidcultist Executor wasn't a newer ship, because Assertor was designed after first two Executors(Lusankya, Executor) were put into service, for one Assertor had in his design better anti-fighter weaponry made after Executor's poor bridge and superstructure coverage in that matter, also Assertor superstructure was better designed to fit more weapons in less space, and to better protect Middle section of ship, it was faster than Executor, and If we are talking about rate of fire, Assertor had faster, more efficient systems, hangar was smaller, due to 4000m shorter Hull, but it accomodated 120 starfighters where Executor had 144 of them, so I would consider it a very efficient and well planed hangar, due to size you had lesser number of turbolasers, and shield generator, but it just goes with size. If You are talking about more heavier weaponry, but older ships, you may have had in mind Praetor II or Mandator II

@@andrzejhinc6404 NO. AND WHAT!? Assertor was already out PRIOR to the Battle of Yavin. So, it is in fact an older ship. That`s a fact. Not debatable. The Executor has over FIVE THOUSAND WEPAONS, and you grossly downplayed the hangar space! The weapons are way more than the Assertor. This is a stomp, friend. Assertor is the heavy artillery of the SSD line. You played World of Tanks? What happens when a Super Heavy Tank fights Arty? Also, taking out the bridge isn`t going to kill the Executor. It can still perform, unless you take out the engines and/or backup systems as well. The Assertor also won`t be getting behind an Executor, lol. It is not faster than it. Assertor would be trying to play at its strength. Bombarding it from a distance, otherwise the shorter-range weapons on the Executor would rip the shields apart, even quicker. Then you just target the weapons and engines as it turns around. Executor can also tank it`s heavier weapons longer than the Assertor can deal with a full bombardment from the Executor. I`m pretty sure this would be a quick fight, with a moderately damage Executor winning and able to still fight off the next fleet(supported). What is even the point of an Assertor!?? Executor can do the same damn thing it can do, but better! Plus, it`s a sexier ship...🥰 You are going off old lore, and what it was MEANT to be. Not what it is. Also, the Executor can hold thousands of TIEs, as could the Assertor, but the Executor is a larger ship, more modern, with more space. Most of the TIEs on the Executor are upgraded Interceptors as well. It is the go-to of the SSD line, for a reason. Sovereign and Eclipse are the only ones stronger. Even then, a Sovereign may not be able to one shot an Executor. Legend even TELLS YOU that the Executor is the better ships and is (probably) the strongest SSD to fight, minus the Superlaser SSDs. Assertor was meant to be even more overpowered when it was on the drawing board and before it became cannon. I`m just waiting for you to tell me that it had a super laser, like it was meant to... The Assertor is a heavy weapons platform. The Executor is a jack of all trade ships, with massive hanger space potential, and with a lot more rate of fire. A LOT MORE. It can melt whole fleets, and worlds, by itself. The Assertor can be overwhelmed much easier, if not supported. A decent Rebel fleet can overwhelm it, as heavy Mon Cal battlecruisers just take it for as long as they can. Then they just jump to hyperspace as the others take out its engines. However, Assertor would be one-shotting a lot of heavy frigates and medium type ships. So, there is that. Maybe some older MC 80s. Executor is meant to overwhelm FLEETS and would also quickly kill single targets. It would even beat an Eclipse in a normal one on one fight. No superlaser, but it would be tougher for it to do than it would against the Assertor.

@@90skidcultist chill its only a discussion xD, and yes, I only am referencing the legends material, because I just dont like canon, and furthermore, I don't think it is logical at least in politics or shipbuilding, as legends are. As to your points, first Executor-class (Lusankya) was created around 3BBY(3 years before battle of Yavin) and Assertors were being assembled between 2-0 BBY, after that yes, I said only about the lowest number of fighters required, you are right with that statment that there are thousands of fighters, but I think lovest number can serve to scale, next, yes, Executor had 2000 turbo lasers, and 2000 ion cannons, and Assertor had significantly less, but it was much better located, Executor has a huge weakspot in probbably your most beloved iconic "city" like superstructure on top, because there is almost nothing to defend this ship, and turbolasers are mostly located in the row goig around the whole ship(except the engines of course), Assertor on the other hand has more diverse set of guns, its guns are located evenly at all sides, and its superstructure is crawling with defence weapons, also from financial point Assertor is a better ship, because to fight rebels hutts, Chiss, Kiliks, or Ssi-ruuvi you dont need 19000 m warship, even 15000 is big, but at least more efficient

@@90skidcultist And to your argument that Executor is having A LOT MORE fire power, I'm not disagreeing, but it does not make it a better ship