Of you mean the Cutscenes that was Blur Studios, but wow yeah I didn’t notice that difference till you pointed it out, now I can’t un-see it.

ODSTs and UNSC forces generally rely on orbital an air support

the unsc uses combined arms, the covenant just removes their ability to get any constant support in the ground.

@andrewgonzalez3214 Oh yeah, that makes sense. The other guy said they always rely on orbital and air support, but I was like "but I don't remember having support"

The automatons would just be taken over by logic plague. And the bugs would just be assimilated

I honestly don’t think the flood are that scary.

@@sunbreakerqueenofbronze621then you don’t understand them.

@@clydemarshall8095 oh, boo hoo. I don’t find your fictional story villains to be very entertaining? How dare I have that opinion?

@@sunbreakerqueenofbronze621 You don't gotta be a tool about It, I mean It's kinda Understandable Since none of the Newer games haven't really shown the Flood In It's full Potential but when you actually read the lore about It they can get pretty bad.

from what we see in helldivers 2, there is no chest harness. theyre sitting in an empty tube and are pushed up out of it after landed. you can watch it yourself when a teammate lands. and despite burning their thrusters for so long, their pod still fully buries itself into the ground on impact. even on the softest earth, that is ALOT of displacement, meaning a crazy amount of force. its pretty clear the hellpods would be delivering terminids fresh ground helldiver if any amount of realism were considered.

​@@arcanealchemist3190its displacing a lot of ground which takes a lot of force, but acceleration is what matters. The occupant isn't pushing the ground out of the way, the pod is, so force is irrelevant. The question would have to be over an est ~2 meter travel at some slowed-velocity (descent thrusters) would it be survivable, and frankly that seems entirely plausible. In-game since the pods behave the exact same irrelevant of the material they land on it's obviously heavily gamified, but in-concept I imagine it's entirely reasonable that using some reasonable combination of pod weight, impact velocity, surface integrity, etc. it'd be entirely survivable. Going by some quick estimates I found online it looks like you'd need to go from 45m/s to 0m/s inside of 2 meters. (Going based on terminal velocity of a bullet estimated by mythbusters who guessed ~150 mph, so we are IGNORING the deceleration boosters) G force lethality is highly dependent on a number of things, but exposure time is critical. Brief stints of high G forces are survivable, but most of our data is about multi-second exposure, as in 10+. In brief instances however its been shown humans can survive upto 40 or so Gs, which using 10m/s^2 for gravity (technically its 9.8) would imply 400m/s^2 is the acceleration we can work with. In other words helldivers can come to a complete stop in a tenth of a second and survive. In 1 second they'd be going ~45 meters by our *_extremely_* rough estimates, which means 2 meters of travel would be ~0.05 seconds. That *_is_* bad since its about half of the estimate, but the John Stapp's rocket sled tests which pushed him to those Gs in the 40 something range was still over several seconds, and the impact deceleration would not be linear. I.e. the hell pod would get higher Gs at impact and lower Gs throughout impact, shortening exposure time. In other words, there is a *_lot_* of wiggle room here, so being within an order of magnitude, hell, within a single 2x, is insanely promising, especially since we are completely ignoring the decel boosters AND are assuming the pods are only 2 meters tall.

Canonize the Thanatos Battleship

That is true however there is bit of issues with that theory, helldivers's shield tech are reversed engineered illuminate's shield tech and helldiver exist before the first contact with illuminate. The piece of info can find in helldivers 1 wiki about the first deployment of helldiver

@@mccat6235 Ive yet to find the first deployment wiki badge. But i believe the kinetic shield isn’t based on illuminate technology, considering none of the illuminate shields work close to the kinetic one. Their shields block this one dampens

@@thegamerserpent4271 I think the first deployment might be in some in game conversation with the NPCs I swear I seem them been mention before, but that ages ago

@@thegamerserpent4271 also the game only say 1 tech is 100% base off Illuminate tech, that been the Displacement field and in it's discribition it says "This was the first piece of equipment create from Illuminate research" so any other tech after it don't get labelled from illuminate. BUT I'm pretty sure in game you unlock shield pack tech from liberate illuminate planet

@@thegamerserpent4271 yep I find it the shield pack are unlocked in game on illumated planet 6-7 level

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You say that all of their stuff is too notch with no costs cut, but like most of the stuff is clearly budget have you ever read most of the ship upgrades? Also the hellpods themselves don’t even come with enough stuff to completely arm a helldiver that’s an external thing that a helldiver themself would need to do (IE. use the booster)

​@@ShinyRISEvery Helldiver mission is very expensive iirc it's enough to field an entire cruiser so I think even with some cost cutting thier gear are still much better standard SEAF infantrymen.

It's for the head on my shoulders unfortunately

Rangers are the 75th

I can imagine the first thing that happens in Helldivers is the Diver being shot full of a combat cocktail

With that many planets? Nah...plenty of bodies. Also the bugs you can kill with melee also die with one shot by any gun. The robots you can kill with melee take more shots and hits.

Helldivers do have kinetic reduction technology and it’s used to make an energy shield that reduces the force of incoming damage rather than blocking it. So clearly it’s cost effective enough to be given to infantry, which probably makes it cheap enough to adapt into the hellpods

You realize every Helldiver went through prior training before THE ACTUAL Tutorial, right? Not only that, but you might not even GET to be a Diver. The biggest honor is being a Helldiver. On top of this, they can weild any weapon, drive any vehicle, are player dependent, extra smart, as well cost a significant amount of money and resources to actually make. We don't get in-depth melee as the game isn't focused on it, but the Divers can take out a metal tincan, which can take bullets, with a few hits. I'm pretty sure Helldivers are also not using Standard Nato Rounds to take these things out soooo. I have read, watched, and played Halo content for a while, but I have also delved in Helldivers as well. It never says outright, but you need to look into it to see why I make these statements

@@glazredfield9489 Yup I do know that. However from I read from the halo books and play halo games, ODST is no joke. They have to keep up with Spartan 2.

The main weapon of a Helldiver is the Super Destroyer They are effectively a spotter for massive artillery batteries and airstrikes. They’re meant to be disposable and are trained to reflect that. Killing a helldiver is like shooting a tanks periscope. Sure it’s annoying and can even make it extremely difficult for the tank to hit you but it’s still a tank and they have 20 spare periscopes they can replace the broken one with in mere moments

@jackball344 I can agree with that. The ODSTs are very specialized, though very lethal in a plethora of environments. I have to say though, they are much fewer but not too few

@floofyboi7546 I can agree to that but also keep in mind each mission takes 1-24 Divers. And each mission section of a planet takes from 1-60 Divers. I assume it'll only take a few less ODSTs but I'd say it's pretty good considering the heavier firepower and higher numbered enemies there are

ODST pods would kill you. They don't have retro thrusters that stay on till you make landfall. In SOME of the games they have some that turn on...and then turn off before you hit the ground. In other games they have none at all. You are strapped into a sitting position on a platform hard bolted to the pod itself. Meaning your SPINE takes the fall. This would put compression on you like someone who uses an ejector seat. In case you didn't know, anyone that uses an ejector seat suffers from some amount of spinal compression. The worst sufferers lost an inch or more to their height from it. For most this is not permanent but it can be for a lot of them. Either way they will be dealing with that pain for a long time. In any case, they will not be doing too great upon landing. They could fight long as they had enough adrenaline and pain killers but they will feel it after. No, being 'super soldiers' would not help with this. It is fundamental biology and you wouldn't be able to just hand wave that problem away. Helldivers are on a cushion they are locked into with more around them after they get inside. They are not locked into anything but the floor plate that is cushioned. They also are dropped from low orbit, not high orbit. Less G's to absorb. However the Helldivers have the plate they are on cushioning them, the extra gel in the base (it is the blue gunk that shoots out the pod when you hit a tank or such and explode it. The oil is black from the explosion, or green blood from the bugs if you hit a tyrant, that blue stuff is the gel) and they are standing and thus can use their legs to absorb a bit more. You can tell they have an air cushion and padding as when it pops early on rocks and such, you see the padding fly out and of course the air no matter what you land on blows out the top with the cap. Of the two, Helldivers have the more realistic that someone could actually come away from ready to fight. Remember ODST is coming from high orbit, so that stiff locked in method would completely destroy your body coming down from that height.