Maintenance, Arty, and Engineer are nice and cheap. They make it so op for me. Especially for infantry

​@@AndrewBunch1 bet

assault battalion!!

AA can also be put in an exclusive Uber tier tbh. Its hands down the single best one. and an absolute nobrainer to slap on every single one of your templates except garrisons. In the current patches air rules the game. And here you have a dirt cheap support company that reduces cas effect on your units and even downs planes. But not only that, it also gives you enough piercing against the AIs light tanks.

Great way of breaking it down!

That's exactly what I said 😅

It's so cool how there's different things you can stack together to make an interesting combination work

They're still good of course! But it can be easy to be in a constant support equipment drain when you might not need to be :)

Allegedly... but how do we really know? I don't trust it

See The Pacific on HBO hahah

Erm, no? Initiative increases your planning speed and acts as a multiplier on reinforcement rate and coordination. It has no impact on reliability. That's the maintenance companies' thing.

ik it gives you reinforce rate, but i dont know anything about planning speed. And maintenence company doesnt affect reliablity, it used to but they changed it to capturing enemy equipment@@magni5648

Same

so is rec worth it?

If you can spare the research, yes. There's 2 reasons why you would want to have it: 1. You can create a duplicate of your main front-line division and add cavalry recon. It's dirt cheap, and it works because you only need one division with recon in the battle (even if it's in reserves) for your general to get the benefit. 2. Light tank recon for your mobile divisions. A specific tank model that matches the division max speed and carries extra fuel barrels is very useful (you can manually edit which models the division will get reinforced with in the division designer). You can do this with flamers too

But what's the benefit really gonna be? Imo not really worth it regardless of the tactics stuff 😊

@@hammotimee considering the bonuses tactics give when they're not countered it's like having a night penalty reduction in some sense, you get better stats for 24h and then the dice gets rolled again within your favor besides, if you have division 1 per province it's cheap and it will help both in defense and offense

@@hammotimee I mean you get 5 companies max. Bonus seems good enough to be worth it

How many mils do you put on support equipment?

Allegedly

Good choices

Agreed! AA is the goated support company

You can just take the focus and it should fire! Make sure to have an army on the border with Slovenia :)

@@hammotimee oh yeah, i was keep annexing everything lol.. i am new to this game thanks for helping man

@@master26449 Hahah good luck! Happy to help!

Agreed! Just a bit $$$ to be using it all the time, you can get away without it a lot of the time

​@hammotimee True, but If I may add, i feel like your analysis misses out on a few things. First off, you mention it's expensive. However, the cost of MP relative to its benefits is negligible. Not only does it increase training time, but it doesn't increase org and HP division stats like other support companies do, only adding a little bit of defense and lots of Suppression. Since Support equipment has better value in other support companies there's no point in MP's, and the nation's who can afford them don't need to because the resistance isn't that big of a deal anyway especially when playing as massive production powerhouses like the soviet union or Germany. It really doesn't compare to the equipment loss of not adding extra supply reduction or entrenchment (especially when on barb!)

​@@hammotimeeI also don't think your taking into account some strategies that may not suit your playstyle. Sure, field hospitals may not be A-tier on germany defeating minor nations, but when playing as the soviet union the proportion of casualties taken means you benefit the most out of -30% experience loss compared to any other nation, not to mention the manpower saving measures associated with it. This means total MOB is more affordable as by 1942 you essentially have 30% more manpower for free simply by having field hospitals and good entrenchment. This means more divisions on the front and a bigger economy in the long run. If you pair this with Concentrated industry and planning + supply reduction bonuses in "deep battle" you can get germany in a equipment deficit pretty early during barb, and from there it's smooth sailing. I can personally attest to field hospitals being S+ tier not because of their stat bonuses but the affects on the economy and war in the long run are too good to ignore!

They do be good like that too! Not one step back innit

I agree, again if you're using them on all divs, go mediums, but for SF, lights are fine, or if you have less production. Mediums are only 20ic more than lights, but that's about 70% more expensive IC required per tank type for a division: Light Flame = 15 x 1.95 = 29.25ic Medium flame = 15 x 3.37 = 50.55ic Heavy Flame = 15 x 9 = 135ic

@@hammotimee actually just looked more into it and i saw that the bonuses that you get for mediums are only 5% more than light ones, and it's only on 4 terrains, now i'm not too sure if 5% is worth for another 20ic but imo, it is, if you only put them on your offensive divisions, as you said!

@@b_alexy it's situational as a lot of things are in this game! 😁

@@hammotimee it really is, thanks for giving me a heads up!

Hahhaha if you find out what they do the whole community would love to know

Agreed!

They do not actually! I just checked this

All three require 15 tanks per division

@@hammotimee oh nvm then, thanks for the quick reply

I don't say to go for it early? It's not something you should get unti you need it, but in function it's literally going to fix all your garrison issues, a 20w cav template for me has always been more than enough without supply issues :)

@@hammotimee Fair enough.

I do have a communist China video, the process is pretty much the same for all the nations you play!

@@hammotimee ah right, lemme check that one out, havent seen it

@@hammotimee ah I see its communist china, I meant the non aligned China

Engineers are far too overused, but great if you're not planning to make an offensive division or if you're going to be playing very defensively

It's not super needed against AI

They don't exist 😶

They're okay on defence, but generally I agree

BLESS KING 👑

Medium flames do give better bonuses and are quite cheap!

​@@hammotimee ill try it

"I don't want to be disrespcteful" but is patronising anyway. I usually wouldn't reply to a comment like this, but you could lead new players astray. Support artillery: Artillery is always good, but you have to make concessions in this game. If I have a massive army and I'm mainly attacking with tanks or dedicated assault divisions, I'm not going to waste production on having 5-10 mils pumping out arty when that can be 2-3, and then I put the other favtories on tanks or planes. Or even AA. If I have to choose between arty or aa, I'm always taking AA, air is too powerful. Field hospitals: I literally say in the video it's situational. It's good for nations with low manpower that can't afford the losses or the XP loss, especially as they have been buffed with the latest DLC/update. You can get the manpower of puppets true, if you have them. Which Turkey, Greece and a bunch of other countries don't start with. I'd argue that we DO want to research this to save XP, you can get +75% bonus for having the highest experience divisions, you really should want to hold onto that as a small nation where you have to make the most of your few divs. Signal companies: fair enough, I agree with that pretty much MP: Legit don't get your point here, it costs 10xp for the support company, and to get your cav division to 20w, at the absolute most (if you're making a new division) it'll cost you 50xp more. Except in reality, most countries already start with a cav division, so it very rarely will. And you only need to worry about making this when you're at war and have a lot of occupied land to suppress, at which point you'll have so much XP you won't know what to do with it. Flame tanks: Your ears must be painted on, light flame tanks don't provide as much bonus as medium flame tanks do in terms of terrain bonuses, despite this I say in the video to use the cheapest designs possible. Recon: Again I swear you didn't listen to me, the bonuses you get from any of the types is not really worth going for, especially with the cost of equipment that motorised or armoured recon uses. If you have a stockpile then great, but any minor nation will not, and it's a waste of IC to build these things just for recon. Logistics: Again you simply have not listened to what I've said in the video, reducing the supply usage is not the only benefit, there's more levels to it like being able to put more divisions in an area due to the reduced supply. Your point that it's not worth it because when your troops are out of supply they are penalised is confusing to me, because that happens regardless. Look at the out of supply penalties, regardless of if you have logistics attached or not. If you're a new player and you see a comment from someone like this, please ignore them as someone who thinks that the way they play the game is the only way to do things, it's damaging to beginners.

Thanks for your answers you are more precise with some point. I listened your vids don't worry It's not what you say is wrong but it's always related to the cost of thing and i perceive a little disconnection beetween your description and your placement. And I just desagree on a lot of things, and by checking other analysis i'am not alone. But knowledge expires quickly on this game. I will check the buff on hospital, i just never use it myself or never see other people use it since age. I still strongly disegree on support artillery. It's only take 12 unit/div, witch is 42 IC for 15 SA + some defense + some breakthr for a division, and it will benefit of multiples multipliers. IC cost is not easy to evaluate, i will give an exemple : it will take only 1 factory to equips in 1 year an entire 24 divs army of support Artillery (it's 1000IC, calculated with 0.6 production efficiency witch what we turn arround at the beginning of the game). In comparaison with the same cost you will build like 1 or 2 maximum 3 brigades of tanks depending of it's price. It's just better in every way even if you focus on tank. Agree on AA i say nothing about that :) I think we also both agree on recon : it's not worth the cost whatever the types. I use sometime light tank recon because i want to valorise stockpile of starting LT, re-use in mid game outdated '36-'39 design in mid game or captured one. I perfectly agree for supply. Of course if we reduce supply we can squeeze more divs, but it's just not very usefull to me. But my game rarely go after '43 perhaps it make more sense in late game. About what i say on fuel is that a unit with truck have specefic penalty in case of fuel shortage witch can raise to 40% speed penalty. This malus will be applied in adition of other out of supply penalty. In that case it's much easier to going down at minimum speed, and if an unit lose a combat it can de wipe out on retreat.

Thank you

Initiative is a mystery

Initiative does three things: 1. Increased planning speed. 2. Multiplier on reinforcement chance. 3. Multiplier on Coordination aka how likely your divisions are to focus-fire on one enemy division instead of spreading it out.