Did MESHTASTIC Die At Hamvention??

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What happened with the MESHTASTIC devices at Hamvention? Let me explain! Don't worry! This is not a bug! We can make this work even better!!
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@Dennis-tf2cs
@Dennis-tf2cs 27 күн бұрын
"Packet" is the right term. The "CHIRP" is still a packet similar to tcp ip. CHIRP's (used in LoRa and other applications) involves transmitting data via chirp waveforms, which are organized into packets. [At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it 😅] Nice video, Thanks!!
@ToumalRakesh
@ToumalRakesh 24 күн бұрын
Meshtastic simple doesn't scale. It's not just airtime, but also the entire MQTT link concept and the fact that your node can "fill up" with node IDs, leading to the dreaded memory full message.
@kudjo24
@kudjo24 21 күн бұрын
Man I dont know anything about meshtastic or HAM, but just with a borderline understanding of making your own network off grid, these are eventual pitfalls that the pioneers of the internet were trying to figure out some 40 years ago
@land_and_air1250
@land_and_air1250 14 күн бұрын
Fortunately there are a bunch of speed settings and frequencies you can pick between which allow you to layer many different networks on top of eachother without interference just like cellular radios do it
@zerofox3d
@zerofox3d 27 күн бұрын
We have extremely dense meshes in areas of the UK now and have seen the same issues. Hopefully the techniques in this video will make it to the nerds over here 👍
@RichardLucas
@RichardLucas 20 күн бұрын
This reminds me of when we first realized we could create a hidden frame and do background HTTP stuff using JavaScript. The server traffic from all of those little, background calls was increased exponentially. But we were able to make changes to the way we did that stuff to mitigate it. With Meshtastic, it's built right in.
@MrBubba123bubba
@MrBubba123bubba 27 күн бұрын
Josh, I always enjoy that when you explain something, you give relevant technical details, go enough into the weeds to satisfy the hard core nerds and yet still break it down to the "green crayon is green" level for people like me.
@chrisjohnson8741
@chrisjohnson8741 27 күн бұрын
MQTT can be very useful and isn't necessarily a problem to the mesh. The problem arises because it is a fairly complex system and not well understood. New users that try MQTT using the default settings on the default channel will cause congestion, but using MQTT on a private channel with a custom MQTT topic (or through a private MQTT broker) is really not a problem. The thing is, unless you know what this all means and also have a known use case for MQTT, you are certainly better off leaving it alone. I have found it very useful for remote telemetry over Meshtastic, and it works well with my configuration and does not cause channel congestion.
@SkillfulHacking
@SkillfulHacking 27 күн бұрын
I'm thinking about this use case to push data into home assistant mqtt would make a great interface for the automation pipelines.
@EZPromoVideos
@EZPromoVideos 27 күн бұрын
I put up my first Solar charging Rak 4630 device using Meshtastic OS. I picked up a 283 mile device, Which has since dropped off. I also picked up a 19 mile device. So it is working. not alot of activity local so it is something I will need to monitor for sure! Attempted an install on the garage roof but the light poles were too large... need to get larger hose clamps for it. Had rain and it is still working... charging as well... been on for 20 hrs and still at a 95% charge! So very happy with the performance. Also got a T-Deck and using it to test with as well. Always great to learn about things that are new! Now to connect with Jason here in TX and see if we can expand our influence. ;)
@papafrank7094
@papafrank7094 26 күн бұрын
Josh, Thank you for your awesome videos on Meshtastic. Due to your videos, I now have my new device sitting here, waiting on me to get off of my behind to print a new case.
@KingSteve032
@KingSteve032 27 күн бұрын
The mesh at hamvention was crazy. Someone definitely had default mqtt server turned on the default channel. I was seeing nodes show up on the map from across the country. I also had mqtt on as well but I was using a club owned mqtt server so people back home could see everything that was happening.
@Jorropo
@Jorropo 27 күн бұрын
One slight detail, unlike many other mesh protocols Meshtastic does not need to build the mesh up, it does not currently track who is in the mesh or where packets should be flowing. The mesh is implemented by using very clever CSMA/CA hacking, every-time a node hear a message it tries to rely it, but before doing so it waits the amount it waits is based on how well the message was received, if the reception was good it waits a very long time, if it were bad it waits a short time, and if while waiting it hear someone else relaying the packet is cancel it's own relay attempt, this mean just by waiting and listening you know if someone else farther away is relaying the message already, and if they are you do not yourself, if the wait time expire and you didn't heard anyone then you relay yourself. The congestion is usually NodeInfo (automated « I am here » messages used to show the list of Nodes in the app, but completely optional and not used in the meshing) and people trying to use the app as designed and send messages.
@matthewtruland
@matthewtruland 23 күн бұрын
That one with the screen makes me think I of the Cybiko devices of the early 2000s.
@TomRolfson
@TomRolfson 27 күн бұрын
This is very much a first world problem. And yes, the Meshtastic developers have done INCREDIBLE work. Josh, TY for reaching-out to them and reporting the proper config and ultimate solution. Is Meshtastic dead? No, we just hit the same speedbumps that partyline phones, Tokenrings and other technologies have hit. Meshtastic's real strength still lies as a backup secure communications when our radios or alternative messaging networks are not available. Great work, TY.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
Exactly.
@nathanielyoung5737
@nathanielyoung5737 26 күн бұрын
​@HamRadioCrashCourse Hey can you do a video series like you did for tech license for the crash course? It really helped.
@kd6hucatmsndotcom
@kd6hucatmsndotcom 27 күн бұрын
I was experiencing issues similar that I actually paid for on my cellphone a decade ago and attributed it to system congestion then too. That bumping the head on ceiling quip toward the end was awesome btw.
@jameski5oeb668
@jameski5oeb668 27 күн бұрын
Haven't gone down the meshtastic rabbit hole yet. That being said, our club is talking about it, so will probably go there soon. Thank you Josh!(for spending more of my money LOL) 🙂
@BrokenSignal
@BrokenSignal 24 күн бұрын
This happened in the UK a few months back as well. This is great real world testing and will be interesting to see how these tips help prevent it in the future.
@TrevHolland
@TrevHolland 27 күн бұрын
Just remember, if you change to Short/Fast and not everyone else does, you'll be on different frequencies and won't see anything. EVERYONE needs to be on the same primary channel.
@Peter-dd3br
@Peter-dd3br 27 күн бұрын
The mesh should be adaptive, so each node can sense how many nodes are around it, and coordinate with them so they each take their turn and don't try to talk over the others. I imagine a protocol that's almost like a tune which they all know and sing together, allowing them to slot their messages in one after the other in a constantly repeating cycle. So each segment of time has 2 components, one where a new node can ask for that slot, and one where either a message is sent or a hold signal is sent to mark the slot as occupied. If your node asks for a slot, the others note it, if no other nodes are asking for it and there's no message or hold signal in that slot for a certain number of cycles then the mesh allocates it to your node. When you send a message, your node waits for its time in the cycle to broadcast and all the other nodes stay silent during that moment.
@ustoowner2077
@ustoowner2077 27 күн бұрын
The protocol you describe already exists. It can improve things but isn't the magical solution one might think. The main problem with all this is that every station can't hear each other station. Then collisions happen. Mesh is complicated, AREDN does a better job at meshing. Meshtastic is still a great tool though.
@dragonwisard
@dragonwisard 22 күн бұрын
There is no magical protocol that enables perfect mesh coordination. Each protocol necessarily makes some design tradeoffs. Meshtastic was not designed for this dense of a deployment without tweaking some of the parameters.
@tonyhirn3689
@tonyhirn3689 27 күн бұрын
Great info 👍
@davemichaeli5339
@davemichaeli5339 27 күн бұрын
Good info, thanks for making this video.
@ocsrc
@ocsrc 21 күн бұрын
This is the same problem we had in the early days of networking And the early days of Wifi. This is why they created 100 base-T and 1000 base-T Because the old 10 base-T really got overwhelmed and we were not getting through from computer to computer on the network. Back then it worked just like this. There was no router It sounds like the system needs network controllers. So if a control station assigned the priority and who is on the network and when to send. Like cell phone cells work
@unwin42
@unwin42 27 күн бұрын
LONG-FAST is a modem preset, not a per-channel setting.
@maranathaamen5963
@maranathaamen5963 26 күн бұрын
Hi Josh, noob here, this is regarding an AWESOME older video how to program with CHIRP. My problem is I have quite an older version of win, much older than 10, so could not do it. Tried on my chomeOS laptop as well, would not work. Do you have a program for CHIRP for older than win10 computers? I love your complete easy step by step directions! Thank you!
@billmcilwee566
@billmcilwee566 26 күн бұрын
I need to learn more about Mesh. I do a lot of volunteer work where cell phones have no coverage. Some folks are bulky about radios. FRS, enough said and GMRS has cost and licensing issues. Mesh might be great but IP68 or higher is a must. Excellent video and 73, KF0NNQ & WRVR260.
@yakovdavidovich7943
@yakovdavidovich7943 23 күн бұрын
Packet is a correct term; it is used by Semtech in the datasheets for the transceiver chips, such as the SX1276, etc.
@Clembassador
@Clembassador 27 күн бұрын
CLIENT (MUTE) is highly underutilized this stops the node from rebroadcasting data, in a dense area leave the retransmission of data to the nodes with the most advantageous positions. I have my elevated nodes as Routers, the nodes on my vehicle roofs as repeaters and my pocket nodes as Client (Mute), my vehicle doesn’t need to show on the node list since I’ll be near enough with my pocket node.
@MXarcx
@MXarcx 16 күн бұрын
I would leave the vehicle nodes as client role since your car might not always be in an advantageous position, so it can re-transmit on-demand with the same priority as regular clients.
@digital.rancher
@digital.rancher 27 күн бұрын
So much fun! Thx Josh!
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
Indeed!
@brianbgarber
@brianbgarber 21 күн бұрын
Is that the Lilygo w/ 3D printed case? If so do you have a link to the stl for the case?
@MsStevieWoo
@MsStevieWoo 8 күн бұрын
Turn MQTT off in dense mesh areas. Here in Manchester Uk - it’s a dense area with 100+ active nodes. Just one node can break the bandwidth. If using TinyGS mqtt makes sense! But in a localised comms it’s doesn’t do any favours! Turn mqtt off and set ignore mqtt. Hops keep to 3 maybe 4 if there are routers in the area…
@alexhunnicutt9327
@alexhunnicutt9327 27 күн бұрын
I believe my wife is buying me my first heltec v3 for fathers day. Hoping the mesh is somewhat active in Charleston sc
@Jody_VE5SAR
@Jody_VE5SAR 27 күн бұрын
Be the mesh you want to see. 🙂
@jimj227
@jimj227 27 күн бұрын
Someone else said it, but Josh, I think you're messing up your terminology on #2. The channels have to do only with encryption keys. It is the radio mode, and you can use only one radio mode (Lora modem preset) whether Long_fast, Short_fast, etc. And you can only talk to other radios (people) on same mode. But thanks for making the video to help us use it better.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
I showed the radio mode on the screen, but yes, set the model to Medium or Short and you should be good. 👍
@andrewtitcombe8378
@andrewtitcombe8378 21 күн бұрын
I amateur code lora modules. And built a mesh system for solar sensors. Trying to automatically set the spreading factor(long fast) is difficult. Because all surrounding nodes have to change to the same SF. This takes band width to tell other devices to move to new SF. Or it takes time for a device to listen to each SF until it heats and syncs with another node on the same SF. SF7 takes 2 seconds to complete an 16 byte packet. So even with the best collision avoidance. Only 30 devices could communicate every minute. I am no radio engineer. But lora modules need to be able to switch it's SF automatically based on the preamble of the other device. And the reply packet should automatically drop to a faster SF based on the signal SNR level. Basically an automated power and speed strategy built into the models.
@TrevHolland
@TrevHolland 27 күн бұрын
Sorry, you said 3 tips, including 1 from the community. Did I miss a third one? Turn off MQTT, switch to Short/Medium Range, and what was the third?
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
lol I took two takes at saying that. Should have been “two tips” I finished editing this at 1:00am 😅
@TrevHolland
@TrevHolland 27 күн бұрын
@@HamRadioCrashCourse haha, no worries. I'm only on coffee #2 for the day so I thought maybe I was missing it. Watched the video twice looking for that third tip. :D
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 26 күн бұрын
Ah damn, sorry about that!
@vica153
@vica153 27 күн бұрын
Is there something in the meshtastic firmware that would allow it to "learn" and stabilize such a dense group of nodes if given some hours or days to figure it out? So after some time that mesh would be functional and not bogged down? Would you be able to simply limit the "background" transmissions to a certain portion of the bandwidth?
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
Perhaps in the future. But it’s likely best just being user settings. Like hops.
@Apav
@Apav 27 күн бұрын
What is the trade off of using short-fast? Does transmitting data more quickly effect range?
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 26 күн бұрын
Yes it can affect range.
@elkien3
@elkien3 25 күн бұрын
I think of it in terms of saying a callsign: short: just saying the letters: "KF6EGR" long: saying each letter with the phonetic alphabet: "Kilo Foxtrot 6 Echo Golf Romeo" they technically have the same information, but if the signal is bad (due to being far away), the "long" method has a better chance of being understood without error.
@allenshepard7992
@allenshepard7992 27 күн бұрын
1980's coax based Ethernet had a similar issue. Yes it was a timing issue. they had to back off on how often they talked. It is a learning curve, It will get better.
@jimthompson3053
@jimthompson3053 22 күн бұрын
The solution with Ethernet was to develop a whole system of switches and routers, so that each device only communicated with the closest other devices. Which by the way meant scrapping EVERYTHING, from the AUIs to the local coaxial network cable. That is, the entire physical layer. That's what it will take to "fix" Meshtastic: replacing it with something akin to a cellular network. So yeah, this will mean that you depend on an infrastructure that will have to be built up from scratch. Which, MAYBE people will plunk down some money to build their own cells, but eventually this will break down into chaos and spotty coverage, and will only work if one or more commercial networks get built.
@land_and_air1250
@land_and_air1250 14 күн бұрын
Also can layer meshes on top of eachother or simply increase the speed at the cost of range for conventions which gives way more throughput by like 300x
@allenshepard7992
@allenshepard7992 13 күн бұрын
@@land_and_air1250 You are right, and that is one thought - routers. Apex nodes or devices that link mesh groups together . Doing it without human intervention is not quite straight forward. We want resiliency in case a router fails or is cut off. Routers can also introduce loops. A message can take more than one path - without "one way gates" the message can be forwarded back toward the sender and then corrected and routed to the receiver only to loop around back to the sender. Local comms under a higher "Tree like" router.
@spacemedic545
@spacemedic545 25 күн бұрын
I have a mesh network operating in my community. It works great. We are building a county wide network and hope to have it operating soon. KS4QF
@karinchaney101
@karinchaney101 27 күн бұрын
They seem interesting, but I watched "Ham Radio 2.0", live last night, on Meshtastic, and this is the exact complaint I heard from the presenters of the live stream. Thanks for great overview.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
Well an added the solution.
@DarkShadowCustoms
@DarkShadowCustoms 27 күн бұрын
I have been seeing Meshtastic being discussed more and more. I haven't really looked into it much, but could it be a viable means of communication for let's say a hunting party of 8 to 10 people spread out over a 2 to 5 mile radius from a central location in an area with lots of hills and poor cellular reception? Is it just text based messages that can be sent or can images be sent as well? It is fine if only text can be sent as the main use would probably be to ask someone to bring a quad to help drag a deer or let the rest of the group know that a member of the hunting party is heading back to the cabin earlier than everyone else or staying out later than everyone else.
@dorvinion
@dorvinion 27 күн бұрын
Text primarily. Very good for low volume telemetry or text based communications. I think its capable of doing a binary payload like an image, but its very slow so not practical. You do need line of site however so having some nodes at higher elevations would be helpful
@DarkShadowCustoms
@DarkShadowCustoms 26 күн бұрын
@@dorvinion thanks for the info. I might have to look into it more then. We might not be able to have our meme war, but at least we can message each other. It might be a viable back up to using GMRS radios.
@Sylvan_dB
@Sylvan_dB 22 күн бұрын
CHIRP is the sound of the modulation. Regardless of what anyone calls it, packet is the correct term for the chunk of data transmitted as a unit (using CHIRP modulation). While not a "bug" in mestastic, the exhibited failure to scale is definitely a design limitation inherent in the choice of flood routing. There are smarter mesh network routing approaches that could be implemented and IIRC meshtastic is working on such. Flood routing is quick and easy to understand and implement, but it always fails this way and has since at least the days of even the limited flooding done by Netware SPX/IPX and NetBEUI in the 1980s and 1990s.
@aquahood
@aquahood 13 күн бұрын
Am I interested in getting my license has come from Communications with satellites and wirsing in the Walking something the world require and I haven't not necessarily but the problem is I can't have even a device that transmits whether or not I will ever hit the transmit button or not.... So even if I'm going to use the device only for receive only I'm not permitted to import it.
@aquahood
@aquahood 13 күн бұрын
However the regulatory body not being very software to find radios allows the sale of The Analog Devices very capable SDR which is the basis of several strs in a single antenna head that's connected to a another piece of equipment or something designing and building which requires me to have access to some equipment that I can't get.
@briankendall1978
@briankendall1978 26 күн бұрын
So, I was thinking that the "chirp" was one character or symbol and that a packet was made up of multiple chirps. I am interest to understand that better. What did you read to learn this information?
@brettberger-KM6MCI
@brettberger-KM6MCI 13 күн бұрын
Hey Josh, I just a LilyGo T Deck device. I connected it to the app and loaded my encrypted channels. But on the device itself how to do I select one of my encrypted channels instead of the “ Long Fast” one that it is on?
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 13 күн бұрын
The T-Deck is getting a massive update soon which will add that capability.
@brettberger-KM6MCI
@brettberger-KM6MCI 13 күн бұрын
@@HamRadioCrashCourse oh awesome. Thank you so much for all you do for the hobby.
@W9ZKHamRadio
@W9ZKHamRadio 27 күн бұрын
Sending this to all of my Link 16 datalink operator friends to explain "Time Slot Duty Factor"
@SkillfulHacking
@SkillfulHacking 27 күн бұрын
Isn't part of the appeal making contacts with others? If you change from long fast although you're utilizing the available bandwidth better, there will be less folks to chat with. I would definitely turn on ignore mqtt on the node so that even if someone mistakenly turns it on your node wont add those to the DB.
@patrick70335
@patrick70335 27 күн бұрын
Question: does changing from Long Fast to Short fast affect the battery life? I am looking for something to extend battery life on those solar satellite nodes I plan on setting up between Maine and SoCal... (just kidding, though that would be amusing an expensive)
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
Try and tell us.
@MXarcx
@MXarcx 16 күн бұрын
Just get a nrf based device (like the RAK) and a decent sized solar panel with decent sized battery and you shouldn't have any issues with battery life.
@land_and_air1250
@land_and_air1250 14 күн бұрын
No the battery usage is the same. Actually short fast uses less because it’s a shorter transmission time. 300x faster than long fast and with far more than 1/300 the range
@RedNeckSurgeyTech
@RedNeckSurgeyTech 21 күн бұрын
Why would you ever use the long if you can send the massage with the short? It sounds like someone driving a dump truck to the store when a car will get the same loaf of bread. I'm sure the is a reason. What am I missing?
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 21 күн бұрын
Fantastic analogy!
@land_and_air1250
@land_and_air1250 14 күн бұрын
Long fast gives more range than short fast so is good for testing and discoverability under normal conditions. Short fast is better for events though
@ryanhuggins
@ryanhuggins 14 сағат бұрын
The messages in the first screen shot...
@mervmartin2112
@mervmartin2112 27 күн бұрын
Can you use meshtastic like a cw net? One net controller, anyone that wants in announces themselves one time, and waits for traffic. The net controller polls the net attendees (like Link 11) for traffic. When polled subscribers send what they've got, then are quiet again. The net controller might be the one with the lowest serial number. That way it's more autonomous.
@MXarcx
@MXarcx 16 күн бұрын
Nothing like that in meshtastic. Simple signal strength dependent flooding of packets. Some lower priority packets get delayed if channel utilisation is too high.
@AD6DMDennis
@AD6DMDennis 27 күн бұрын
Seems like the 2 main problems with Meshtastic are either: Get a node and encounter terrain problems / there's no one I can talk to, OR there's an over-saturation problem. I went from the former to the latter in the span of 3 months. Now I see endless spam on the public channel in my area (mostly new user test messages), and wish I could get back to the few original users back in April 2024.
@ustoowner2077
@ustoowner2077 27 күн бұрын
I believe you can if you change frequency with a small group.
@j.b.708
@j.b.708 26 күн бұрын
this is an artifact of all convenience mesh networking technologies. as networking is made easier, more an more of the bandwidth is taken up by the housekeeping of the mesh.
@typicalaimster
@typicalaimster 27 күн бұрын
There was 70+ nodes at EDC Las Vegas back in May. The only thing my group of 20 had to do once channel saturation was over 50% was simply change LORA slots from 20 to 60. Left things on Long Fast and things work flawlessly after that. Anyone seeing channel saturation should check one of the other slots. See what the floor looks like. Then coordinate a change with your group and make it. Admin channel works great for this!
@iblackfeathers
@iblackfeathers 27 күн бұрын
another annoying thing when in a dense meshtastic environment is when someone has range test spamming enabled. this causes those seq 1 seq 2 seq 3 messages to be broadcasted. the offending device will need range test turned off. there may be a setting to ignore such messages in later firmware versions or depending on device or os.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
Oh yeah, keep that off.
@huh4233
@huh4233 23 күн бұрын
Think about all the keep alive pings that are broadcast every second on a typical network.
@jaqhass
@jaqhass 4 күн бұрын
If you wana split hairs it would be ”package” but ”packet” works.
@systemchris
@systemchris 23 күн бұрын
Its like a broadcast storm in old networking haha
@whiskyguzzler982
@whiskyguzzler982 27 күн бұрын
Default Meshtastic is built for a common environment. MQTT should be off by default. There are special uses for it.
@jimthompson3053
@jimthompson3053 22 күн бұрын
This IS a limitation of Meshtastic, since it has no mechanism for automatically reducing the bandwidth used by each node. Back when "mobile phones", the precursor to cellular phones was a thing, there was a problem: if the prices came down and mobile phones became popular, they would quickly saturate the bands allotted to them. The invention of cellular radio was a response to this, and required that transmissions be limited to short range, and also an infrastructure of "cells", or areas that each fixed station covered. Adjacent cells use different channels, so that a phone talking to its nearest tower does not interfere with other nearby cells. Meshtastic learned nothing from this, and has NO mechanism to keep saturation from happening, and so will be the victim of its own popularity. The more popular it gets, the worse the user experience. And the bigger problem with that is, it will run into the limits WAY before it gets to the point where you can reach anybody you want to communicate with. So it will go from "i can only message 1% of my contacts" straight to "I can't get through to ANYbody." Please: prove me wrong.
@bowbreaker1
@bowbreaker1 27 күн бұрын
Just literally described how some stations have ruined APRS in a region
@N0SSC
@N0SSC 27 күн бұрын
6:26 “highly contested” 😜
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
We need to gameify Meshtastic :D
@DXJungle
@DXJungle 27 күн бұрын
It’s called a broadcast storm. Usually brings down the network.
@LarryL619
@LarryL619 26 күн бұрын
I wonder what impact a saturated environment has on battery/power consumption.
@MXarcx
@MXarcx 16 күн бұрын
Radio is definitely using more power if it's constantly receiving and transmitting packets.
@land_and_air1250
@land_and_air1250 14 күн бұрын
Increased but if it’s nrf based it will still use a trivial amount of power on the order of 100-200 mah per day
@toriusblackwell7523
@toriusblackwell7523 27 күн бұрын
Is there any way we can connect a Motorola T900 to this for textin?? Please say there is a way
@randykitchleburger2780
@randykitchleburger2780 24 күн бұрын
If you're crafty you could swap the internals.
@MXarcx
@MXarcx 16 күн бұрын
That would be an awesome challenge to re-use the case, screen and keyboard, but swap the internals.
@KB5UTY-Dave
@KB5UTY-Dave 27 күн бұрын
Links to videos mentioned please
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
Added. Thanks for reminder!
@MoparAGE
@MoparAGE 27 күн бұрын
👍👍👍
@unwin42
@unwin42 27 күн бұрын
MQTT uplink and downlink are ON in that QR code
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
Yeah. It was an example. Not something to use.
@nrdgrrrl
@nrdgrrrl 27 күн бұрын
I know this is expected. I want what comes after meshtastic. Some one must be working on a new technology that has no node limit. I feel like that would go global (or continental I guess) really quickly.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
I think people don’t fully understand the node limit. It isn’t what you think. It’s three hops by default up to seven.
@nrdgrrrl
@nrdgrrrl 27 күн бұрын
@@HamRadioCrashCourse I guess, maybe I should just try it out and see how it goes :)
@beachthor1
@beachthor1 23 күн бұрын
It seems like the Meshtastic network is either completely unheard of or completely saturated depending on the area. The more I watch about it the less enthused I am.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 23 күн бұрын
The thing to remember with Meshtastic is you should flesh out your own network. If you can pick up others, great, but it’s supposed to be an off-grid mode for your important communications.
@aquahood
@aquahood 13 күн бұрын
I would also be interested in high frequency contacts and digital contacts again they have no interest in computers or digital and are so old I'm in my 50s and was by far the youngest person there and probably was the only non-native Swiss who didn't attend ZTE which is one of the best engineering schools in Europe and you should check out the HP 9 exam it's absolutely impossible unless you're an engineer HB3 is okay and I can do it in French. Of
@k6usy
@k6usy 27 күн бұрын
If I was there with people I wanted to be able to communicate with - I would just switch to another frequency.
@VelcorHF
@VelcorHF 26 күн бұрын
Go with “Transmit Storm” or “CHIRP Storm”
@dalepres1
@dalepres1 18 күн бұрын
Life is wonderful; we live and learn every day. Seems like those working on this can easily devise a configurable limit to any mesh network. Don't hard wire it, make it configurable. Problem solved.
@aquahood
@aquahood 13 күн бұрын
I am a lawyer admitted all the way to the Supreme Court so legally speaking I think I'm correct in my legal opinion because for all federal purposes and under federal law my domicile is Kentucky. Therefore this being a completely federal law and Federal Regulation based issue my domicile officially for federal law reasons including the FCC would be Kentucky so I could take legally buy distance with a willing person who will administer the exam my entry level amateur radio license in that manner in English.
@fredc3543
@fredc3543 27 күн бұрын
Yeah, a throttling algorithm to reduce the traffic in congested environments.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
It’s not so much throttling as it is speeding up the transfer so you can have more chirps per minute.
@spleenware
@spleenware 24 күн бұрын
There is an alternative called Ripple.
@Jack-df9gy
@Jack-df9gy 10 сағат бұрын
Skynet finally took over😂
@aquahood
@aquahood 13 күн бұрын
Yeah I'm in a region where everyone in the radio club is 60 years or older engineers and that's the club and they don't want anyone else in it especially not anyone coming with a computer background or any other new type of technology and being a dual National they were also clearly members of the national party here and I was made clear that I was not welcome. Bern Amateur Radio Club (Aventura cranky old farts who are ultra nationalistic and if you weren't born Swiss you aren't Swiss even if you have the passport and we live in the only direct democracy in the world). It's sad because it has an extremely long history and I assume that it will die out with this group of individuals who are passive-aggressive and extremely cruel. I would guess this would violate one of the international and National regulations but I'm not going to mess with that.. sad because I've been interested since I saw a man using an old Kenwood on the high frequencies in North Carolina as a teenager born in Kentucky and lived in Colorado Montana now abroad for 23 years. The US federal law states that my last and current voter registration and US domicile is the last domicile which I held before I left which is my mother's home. If that's the case then since this is a federal law we're dealing with my domicile is officially Kentucky for federal purposes so I should be able to take a remote test. I then should be able to take advantage of reciprocity.
@devinhedge
@devinhedge 27 күн бұрын
I disagree that it isn’t a failure of Meshtastic. It’s a limitation. The old adage is, “we are really bad at planning for success.”
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
It’s not a limitation. The user is expected to tune that setting for their environment. Which is what we should want here, user control.
@bradmillard1689
@bradmillard1689 27 күн бұрын
I swear, the term "I'll put the link in the description" has to be one of the biggest lies stated by KZfaqrs. I have lost count of the number of times that has been said only to find THERE ISN'T SUCH A LINK!!! I see a lot of links for advertising to support your channel but where is the link for Richards video you said would be in the description???
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the reminder!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mt6JjJNqnLeyo2Q.htmlsi=pzCKaaWmzfecwSNK
@wherami
@wherami 27 күн бұрын
Mesh ddos lol
@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu
@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu 17 күн бұрын
Still a packet.
@aquahood
@aquahood 13 күн бұрын
But after I was treated so Bradley after I was so nice every time I had any contact with him and enjoyed doing the fox hunting and was even successful on my first Fox Hunt having found all of the beacons. It was fun to get outside and meet new people but apparently they didn't want to meet me. Werbet secure social demographic would be the most likely to contain SVP or UDP which is our nationalistic or hyper nationalistic political party and uncertain issues I actually agree with them because I believe in Swiss neutrality and I didn't come here for a job or money I came here for love. And then I have learned that it's a direct democracy and I understood that they actually use the US Constitution and it's more of a republican version of the Constitution that it would be a Democrat won so being conservative myself but not ridiculously and stupidly so like people who support Trump and excuse me if you do but you're foolish if you think he cares about America at all he's completely self-serving and has no right to sit in that chair. But that's just my own political opinion but I do come from four generations of politicians my father always preached you're an American first and your party second and you can agree to disagree and still be friends. I'm watching America weekend itself in the eyes of everyone worldwide through your own internal conflict which you should never put on displayas you can agree to disagree and still be friends and still be Americans.
@Yelnats101
@Yelnats101 27 күн бұрын
That’s all the ham community here is talking about. Meshtastic
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
…. Really that’s it. Lol
@Yelnats101
@Yelnats101 27 күн бұрын
@@HamRadioCrashCourse pretty much
@daniell8387
@daniell8387 27 күн бұрын
Potentially problematic message on screen @ 1:34 fyi
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
Yes, everyone was very sweaty.
@randykitchleburger2780
@randykitchleburger2780 24 күн бұрын
Perfectly normal, nothing wrong here.
@aquahood
@aquahood 13 күн бұрын
So there's no point in me trying to get the instruction and training that I should have to be responsible operator here from such ignorant people and I wasn't born here but I am Swiss I have two children here and their mother was actually adopted by the family who founded the Red Cross so I don't know how much more Swiss one can be because very few people here are any more genetically Swiss more than one or two generations back. It's also a country historically that was founded on diversity because there's four different distinct languages and cultures and they figured out a way to get along through consensus so the whole idea of this party is mistaken in a historical context. Play getting back to radio I think legally from a federal law of perspective that I'm entitled to reply and take my distance the entry-level exam using my current US domicile for voting purposes and tax purposes which is my mother's house. I think that is both legal and appropriate and then would allow me to transition to hb3 with reciprocity.
@LarsLarsen77
@LarsLarsen77 17 күн бұрын
Mesh networks seem like a good idea, but it's not, it's a horrible idea.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 17 күн бұрын
lol why?
@nvrmor023
@nvrmor023 27 күн бұрын
Hams ruining meshtastic like they are ruining gmrs. Stop trying to turn everything into a way for you to contact strangers.
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 27 күн бұрын
Mind your own business? Make your own primary channel if you don’t like it?
@nvrmor023
@nvrmor023 27 күн бұрын
​@@HamRadioCrashCourse maybe stay in your liscensed airwaves lane and leave something for the rest of us who dont want to be hams?
@mineton1293
@mineton1293 27 күн бұрын
@@nvrmor023 bro hams have just as much right to those frequencies as you do. Also they can't use encryption on the ham bands. literally nothing is ruined for your use case if you just change the frequency slot for your channel, you don't talk to strangers, and they can't over saturate your network
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse 26 күн бұрын
@nvrmor023 lmao. Bro, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
@kd8icq
@kd8icq 18 күн бұрын
One can only hope. Meshtastic is ridiculous
@zachscott4867
@zachscott4867 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for making many people smarter, one video at a time. KN6ITJ
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