Hopefully it doesn't mean bad blood between me and Asus 😂 I do still want to check their stuff out; I just wanna make sure that people are informed

i bought it and will sell it to you for 500 bucks.

@@Anotherword7486 why do you wanna sell it and i would like to buy

@@MiwuScience1 because I use my 4k television to game on. When I'm just using the laptop it's fine but 1080 x 1200 doesn't look very good on a 4k display. Usually I play at 1440p to get a steady 60fps but even then some games like cyperpunk I have to run at medium to get 60fps. If I wanna play at 4k I have to play games at the lowest settings most times. Skyrim without mods i can run 4k 60fps no problem. . For.the most part it's good but if I would have had the option I would have spent a few hundred more dollars to get something beefier or even a pc instead of a laptop.

ive had mine for awhile now, it doesnt sound good in a dedicated reveiw but when you line it up realistically against the other laptops with price included its actually a pretty good setup, i also noticed he was on bios 408, i bought this fa617ns a year ago and out of the box had to upload bios 409 and another since audio is another one people complain about but this isnt an issue unless your trying to dj a party off your laptop, my volume sits at 40-50 on the rare occasion im playing without a headset

@@Anotherword7486 what's your eBay

Yeah, above all else I want people who already bought into this laptop to get a working laptop, what they paid for, things I consider to be a given. Good news is that my video has definitely reached AMD and Asus from what I've heard, and they're feeling the heat

That gives me hope :) , thank you for your review , I greatly enjoyed how you paced out things, godspeed :))

i have same problem with lenovo it's not sleeping at all, i hate this trash... also new bios broke my usb c (my pc freeze after connecting to monitor), so i have to be on old version

I am a Linux user too - I just posted a comment with a long list of fixes for this machine. Try using the latest kernel (6.9), repaste the CPU/GPU with Cryonaut or MX-6, and make sure you're running the new BIOS from Feb 2024 (414). Also, do NOT keep using the included Realtek Wifi/BT card - it's trash and triggers a whole bunch of other issues - replace it with the Intel AX200 or AX210.

Glad to know it's also not an isolated incident. I'm also forwarding your message over to my Asus Rep to pass on, hopefully they can get this issue resolved for your laptop as well!

Did your 16gb ram version resolve the issues with texture pop in compared to the laptop in this video?

@@TheUltimateHacker007 Ran a benchmark on CP2077, didn't notice any of the texture pop in that was seen in this video. Here are the results of the benchmark and the settings. i.imgur.com/raGFmwy.png

Just ordered one last night have some of the issues been sorted out?

I’m just glad to know I’m not crazy. I have these issues as well. Also my screen will freeze and the laptop will even reboot itself on its own. Im getting so frustrated with this computer

❤

Your issue sounds very much like a dying battery, if your laptop is a bit old it might be worth changing it

Just got this laptop last week and the bios for the zen 3+ on their website is ver. 4.14, updated 9/27/2023

@@supperhey did you try out the new version ? Fixed anything for you ?

@@dl88889 No issue so far, but it dies run hot. AMD claims that their chips perform optimally at 95C and I call cap on that. Returning the laptop tomorrow

Latest BIOS now is 414 and recent as of Feb 2024.

I am thinking of recommending this to my father, I also have an Asus A15 and I had none of these problems so would you recommend it?

@@panagiotiskoutoulakis9315 absolutely, i game 4 plus hours a day and still no issues on this laptop. I get around 100frames at 1080p resolution and around 80frames at 2k resolution. I wouldn’t recommend this for 4k but anything less works great

Thanks for sharing your experiences! I really do hope that Asus fixes these issues so that you get to use your laptop normally once more!

Having similar issues :( , even switching between the ultimate, standard and eco mode in armoury crate can cause the laptop to black screen and just restart itself

"It randomly wakes from sleep. " This could be an older Windows problem, starting with around 10. It has various app/security/utility scanners which wake it up. One way to test this is to go into Power Options and change the advanced settings for whatever active plan you use, and disable the Wake Timers for both plugged in and On Battery, see how it behaves. In case the AMD armory changes the plan on the go, then do it for other power plans as well (Powersave, Performance). There were some additional timed schedulers, but those can go weird or reset back by the system. Once scenario is when the laptop wakes up from sleep after a while and goes into hibernation, standard procedure (can be adjusted as well). PS: stumbled on this video after looking forward to get this one (on sale), but I guess I could wait. I still use a mid range Asus from 2016 (intel+nvidia) and all issues were with windows/updates/drivers, eventually replaced the battery, the keyboard needs a replacement.

I decided to jump and get the zen4 on a sale. Bios 313 from showroom, was updated before me getting it. Did a fresh Win 11 install (now that was annoying). Impressive machine, and some software bugs present in the video can't be reproduced. Like weird sleep/reboots. There is a sleep keyboard blinking which is turned off if lid is closed or power cable disconnected, or if disabled in Armoury! And you can even change some light settings. Also suggest to check the windows updates, there can be quite some things, download/install/configure AMD Adrenaline and Armoury, there are a LOT of settings. One I suggest is to switch from SAG to Hybrid (if you work and switch often between intensive 3D programs and non-3D), and don't stress the iGPU with unnecessary load. There are weird moments with a coil whine if running very intensive 3D programs (like UE5 editor with realtime rendering enabled), but can be switched off, and mess around with FPS settings. This is a common thing for other hardware configurations (other laptops, powerful PCs, etc). Another thing is numlock doesn't have an indicator if it's enabled. Other than that, quite good for the price. And 512GB storage might not be enough for some people, so plan for a minor upgrade. And expect it to heat a lot during heavy loads, so do check settings in Adrenaline and Armoury for optimizations (CPU, GPU, power balance, fans, FPS cap, etc).

I managed to solve the "randomly wakes from sleep" by turning off "Wake on LAN" and "Wake on Pattern Match" for both Wifi and ethernet adaptors. You can do so by accessing their respective settings in Device Manager. I also just left the graphics setting in standard and hybrid graphics mode. This "resolved" the wake on black screen in my A16. I'm running the latest 410 Firmware. I do hope that ASUS and AMD fixes their drivers and firmware so that we regain the advertised functionality of these laptops.

At the moment I'm testing a 4060 laptop and it's quite a bit faster than the 7600S, I'd put the 7700S maybe slightly ahead of the 4060, but we'll only really know when it's in our hands

7700s variant only sold in usa Some have brought it at microcenter

I don't have first hand experience with them but I heard the Lenovo options with the AMD 7000 processors and NVIDIA GPUs are pretty good without being too costly. You could also look at the Acer Nitro 16 that just launched

the asusu tuf with the 4060 works great, my girlfriend has one and its buttery smooth...i got the amd a16 tuf NS aaand going all amd was not the right move

I bought this laptop and within two months the left hinge broke lol. Then a month later the right hinge broke. Pretty sad cause it was a powerful laptop.

I heard that the bios updates etc have it all fixed? can you verify this?

ur just doing something wrong at that point, stop being so rough. asus tuf hinges arent that weak. @@rickjohnson5752

@@rickjohnson5752 You're probably being too rough on it. Almost nobody has hinge issues with these. You're doing something wrong.

@@rickjohnson5752 Theres no way u were being gentle with it lmao. my asus tuf is still doing well.

Yeah 10 fps is quite substantial, yes in that case I would most definitely leave it on. Hopefully AMD and Asus figures this out

AMD adrenalin 23.10.2 fix black screen issue on my a16, but has freeze issue...

​@@user-ks6bp6yb2bi want to buy this laptop cuz it looks cool but now idk. Do you recommend it? Or should i stay away from it?

@@khalifa6413 overall I like it, but amd laptop has freeze or crash/reboot issue right now. And GPU is not good as 4060. I buy it because discount (~1050usd fa617xs) and battery life(it's good).

stay away @@khalifa6413

What is your experience with the laptop?

@@applel2.043 Now it works well, the main problems for me have been solved. I mainly used it for C# development. I didn’t test it in games, since I have another computer for games. When I bought it, there were problems with the sleep mode: the keyboard backlight was blinking frequently (13:40 in this video); increased energy consumption in sleep mode; spontaneous restart in sleep mode, as if the power was lost; sometimes network cards were disabled; and quite rarely a black screen when waking up from sleep (maybe I encountered it 3 times during the entire time I worked with the laptop in the first months from the date of purchase). And in this laptop Asus removed support for the S3 sleep mode, which was extremely unusual for me. There were also problems with switching the operation mode of the video card - sometimes it went to the blue screen of death. Conducted various experiments with BIOS settings, drivers, etc. As a result, most of the sleep mode problems turned out to be related to the MediaTek MT7921 WiFi/Bluetooth module. Replaced it with Intel AX210. This solved half of the sleep pattern problems: the frequent blinking stopped; increased energy consumption due to bluetooth turned on has gone away; network devices no longer disappear; became less likely to spontaneously overload in sleep mode. I turned on the Hybrid graphics mode and removed SmartAccess Graphics - this completely eliminated reboots in sleep mode and there was no longer a black screen when exiting sleep mode. This really affected the battery life. I replaced Armory Crate with Asus services with G-Helper, which also helped with stability of sleep mode. I disabled Hibernate mode because I don't need it. At first, video cards worked stably only with the version of drivers provided on the Asus website. This year I installed the BIOS 414 update, after which the video cards began to work stably with the latest drivers from AMD. For some of my tasks, 16 GB of RAM was not enough for me, so I replaced the modules with 64 GB. In terms of performance, I was completely satisfied with the processor. A couple of months ago I needed to start experimenting with local Large Language Models (mainly experimenting with quantized 7B models). At first I tried to experiment with them on the processor, but it was slow for prompts of 1000+ tokens. Then I tried to get a Radeon 7600S for these tasks, but it turned out to be somewhat difficult to do under Windows. So I installed Arch Linux as my second system. Under Linux, after recompiling a number of libraries, the acceleration worked. Linux started up without any problems. Wayland froze a few times, but after changing the kernel to a version with patches from Asus, all the problems went away. I can't say much about battery life right now. Before switching to Hybrid Mode in Windows, up to 8 hours of Internet browsing, up to 5 hours of medium load (browser + viewing and writing code, compiling and debugging small projects) or up to 2 hours of intensive load (data processing or compiling large projects) was enough. After switching to Hybrid Mode on Windows, I didn’t do any special experiments, but it was enough for me to work for 4 hours. In Linux, I also didn’t particularly test the operating time from the battery; the last time I needed it (I forgot to take the power supply with me), it was enough for 4 hours of operation. Overall the laptop is quiet. In Quite Mode, the fans turn on only under load. Now for my tasks I am completely satisfied with it.

Hey Jarrod. No, the laptops were just left alone for a couple of hours and then this would happen. If there is a sensor that prevents starting up unless it's plugged in if the chassis is open then yeah this does sound like it could be a bug with that. Some of the commenters here have also mentioned running into said issues. I haven't had time to revisit this however as they're long returned to Asus for investigation. Great content on your channel btw 👍

Bro, have you gotten any trouble with this laptop? I'm really interested in it, but still have my doubts

@@alanz.lopezrdz5908 Ya i've returned it. It randomly froze from time to time (~10 seconds of no-response regardless of where the mouse clicks). That's only from my web browsing and no extensive video game yet, but it's enough for me to return the thing within bestbuy's return windows. Too bad

Damn I was considering buy this for EUR 800 in the Netherlands@@supperhey. I'll just go for Legion slim 5 4070 or zyperus G16 4070

Any update?

@@derekbailey7049 decided to return. Experienced some issue, and a desktop came on sale with a pretty good price so I pulled the trigger

Reading the comments from others, it sounds like it's an Asus TUF specific issue, and some people have managed to solve them apparently by disabling Wake on LAN features on both the NIC and Wireless device. It may have something to do with Realtek, their drivers and S0 sleep.

Interesting, have you ever updated the BIOS etc?

@@TechRodent yes, bios is up to date.

​@@packersfan036which country you purchased from

I have requested my Asus rep to let me know the moment there's a change, so far he hasn't gotten back to me yet

The model that was sent to me by Asus is a FA617XS with a 2560x1600 display, it was noted on the box it came with as well as the online listings. It might be a Malaysian specific variant of the XS. I believe the XT is the one with the 7700s

Hey bro, after some months, do you still recommend the 4060 model? Or has it given you problems too?

@@danimax5203 4060 model seems to be working just fine , no issues. but still hving issues with the all amd version

No dont buy it

I'd be curious to know if it does or doesn't have the issues listed above. The XT is technically a different model under a different BIOS, so it'd be interesting to know

I have the same model now, and it has these problems occasionally, but it runs great and overall is an exceptionally good laptop. Some recommendations from me: * Use Turbo Mode. This prioritizes active cooling and spins up the fans sooner, the laptop gets warm otherwise. (Also those fans do spin fast, they're just quiet) * If you are having issues, just reboot the computer. It's the standard windows fix. * Keep all your drivers up to date, especially your AMD drivers. * Turn on optimizations and performance mode. And be willing to set the priority of things higher if you want to. (games and benchmarks benefit from this a lot) * Use HyprRX (or at least some of its features) AntiLag is applied by the drivers on a systemwide basis, and it does make the computer seem more responsive in some ways. * Use 10bit mode on the GPU. It looks good, and I don't think anything should be shipped with anything less than a 10bit display. * Check if the professional or prosumer applications you have support OpenCL or HIP acceleration and try enabling hardware acceleration. * Meow at your computer. * Run out of ideas. * post this comment. @@TechRodent

​@@unyu-cyberstorm64thanks for the tips

Any update on the xt? Planning to get it

Any update on the xt? Planning to get it

The webcam not working sucks but it isn't a major issue; it's basically USB connected, except internally

Thanks for the reply, does that mean that my laptop should run perfectly fine? I haven't faced any issues other than that, is there any way to check my laptop's health?@@TechRodent

@@Chixiz I can't say it won't face any issues, all I can say is that it'll be unrelated to the camera

Would you say or even recommend to get Helios Neo 16 over the A16?

I'm using a Helios Neo 16 that I got after returning that laptop to Asus; it's a banger. No issues and solid workhorse. Just battery life leaves more to be desired, because it's an Intel

@@TechRodent thanks for the swift reply! i was about to return the Helios Neo 16 for the A16, but now I'll keep with the Helios despite the shorter battery life

@@rexaifi Only advantage A16 over neo 16 is battery life due to AMD Ryzen. Apart from that neo 16 is so much better

@@TechRodent Yes it was so much better

Works fine with Linux, windows modern standby etc are all... Well, windows issues.

@@TechRodent Thanks. Personally not concerned with sleep issues, but I also stumbled upon opinions of having black screen due to SAG (Smart Access Graphic, which is AMD's Advanced Optimus I guess) and some more.

Works perfectly in Linux with Kernel 6.9+ and also with the replacement of the stock Realtek card with the AX200/210.

Afaik not just yet, I have an Acer Predator as well as Lenovo LOQ with a 4060, both are doing well

@TechRodent i decided to go with the legion pro 5 4060

would u say the acer predator 500 is a better choice?

What changes did you do?

Some say it's related to the wifi chip, you can try changing it out to an Intel one and see if it works

Most of these issues are from the stock Realtek wifi/BT module; get rid of that POS and replace with the Intel AX200 or AX210.

A lot of outlets just test benchmark numbers and then return the loan units; as you can imagine, owning a laptop is more than just how well it runs games, how hot it gets etc.

It could be that newer versions come with an updated BIOS, because some users have reported fully working laptops after a BIOS upgrade. Either way if true it's great news.

Same for me; right now the laptop is not responding for whatever reason. It’s my last Asus laptop; I’ll never buy this again

@@deccicator I already put this for sale and I'm thinking on buying a lenovo legion pro 5 or 7

Good question

Got same question

Fixed - kind of. Please refer to my comment that I posted today.

I posted a list of fixes for a similar model with the 7700S GPU. Check it out.

yes and gaming issues lol crazy latency in alot of titles

@@drangstveitmark I just bought it and it seems the issues are fixed i am running it on 410 bios

@@khaled.aldajani be aware not to run in gpu ony mode from armoury crate. it will constantly freeze the pc// we bought a bit of a dud bud lol

Best buy currently has a "Black Friday" deal on the Zen3+ 16GB model for $750 new. Though it looks like this deal is running all month...maybe? Not sure. I post this mostly because refurb options are usually not unlimited and this is a good option for those looking to get this.

@sqrlmonger yep its worth it and has run great for me

I would. The issues for me are too major to keep. You can of course try and see if yours even has these issues, but yeah based on other comments here it may not be looking good.

@@TechRodent thanks for advice👍 I'm going to return it then and get A15 7735hs+4060 but anyway I will come back and check if Asus did something with that issues 😁😁

​@@mamdowodyhave you exchanged?

@@rishabbantiya6384 yes, took A15 4060

@@mamdowody does it have the same issues has mentioned in the video.. how much was the costs

Do you have any issues with laptop?

can you try counterstrike 2 for m. just got myine and the latencey is insane and it stutters like crazy

@@drangstveitmark i solved this problem for all games. If those games are not so high preset games like rdr2 or tarkov or cyberpunk… just set manuel on armoury. Set 80 them all 2 setting on Voltage so not 120 if you play the games like cs2 or dota lol which dont uses so much graphics. Than you get 75-78 degrees on cpu and no more problems. You can play high preset games with turbo mod without problem. I prefer to close antilag from amd settings and open enchanged+ free sync. So i get so much fps and so less latency

Actually last night I noticed it's running smooth on the laptop...but when plugged into my TV it causes the issues. Kind of odd. I'm going to try it on the TV in the living room today to see if it's just the tv or if it's something with the laptops hdmi output...the TV worked just fine with my 5800x and 3060 gpu. Smooth as butter,besides a bit of tearing sometimes from being an older tv

Thanks for the advice!

@@drangstveitmark the Fact is maybe when you close the vsync you need to open free sync, and for this one you need to have free sync monitor. But im not sure

Yes, this is an affected model. As per some people here, the sleep issues might have something to do with the wifi chip that Asus has chose for this laptop

Please refer to my comment that I posted today for possible fixes.

Long content takes a lot of work; especially two in ones haha

@@TechRodent yepp !!

Has it given you problems?

Very peculiar. Can you tell me which wifi card you have?

@@TechRodent Realtek RTL8852BE 🙃

@TechRodent the wake up issue fixes when mux switch enabled, but still no screen In boot up occurs

Some people have reported the issues stemming from the wifi card and it's drivers but I can't confirm this

@@TechRodent 🤷by far i didnt encounter any problem either