Jagraj Singh who is the sikh speaking in the video has unfortuanltey passed away now

Hamza is truly a rational human being.

Look how humble the Muslim was compared to the Sikh man this is how the prophet Muhammad pbuh told us to act

Guru is the Scripture. Experience the Guru with your eyes and just see how special he is for yourself.

Sikhs are highly respected all over the world 😊

May grant my brother in Islam Hamzah a long life full of good deeds. So patient and logically sound. Māshā'Allāh!

brother hamza and his manners when shiki was talking over him may Allah reward his patience

im a sikh and i think hamza is a logical guy im sorry jagraj but hamza is right you need to support your arguments with proof but you failed to do so and you are the only sikh preacher we have what a sad outcome for sikhism! if i was listening to this video i would side with the muslim because he spoke with logic and proof

Great Ustaad Hamza. Quite rational, calm , straightforward, patient and easy to understand. May Allah grant you all goodness in both the worlds.

MashaAllah Hamza and the team are in speakers corner 😃😃 I hope they debate atheists and so happy they attended..

Love to see brother hamza tzortzis

This Sikh brother is normally very cool calm and collective. I think brother Hamza broke him down very easy with his questions, Hamza made him realise he was the one who was going round in circles

RIP Jag raj... You were so nice person 😭😭

The Sikh guy is so cool love his video's on Sikh basics. These Muslims should try to learn rather than put hate comments.love Sikhism so beautiful and makes sense how can one fault it.

Hamza tzortzis is handsome as well as a logical Man.

Hamza schooled and countered the sikh in his own field of Philosophy. This obviously irritated and angered the sikh a few times.

hamza is just on another level of intellect ..MashaAllah May Allah give him more Barakah in his thought process .

bhai Jugraj cave analogy was spot on!!!! Sikhi is on another level!!! 🙌

people experience a lot of things, it does not make them true.

dang Hamza is an Intellectual heavyweight .. mashaAllah ^^

Can you see the fear in Jagraj's attitude? He is in denial before listening to anything !

hamza came to speakers corner!!! I can't believe i didn't come today :(((

They don't want to prove their faith because it is from "experience." But Islam is an all encompassing faith, it feeds the intellect with rational and logical proofs, it feeds the soul with experiences, it feeds the body with prayer and scientifically proven prescriptions.

Haven't seen Hamza in a public discussion in a very long time

Sikhism Is pure ... Ultimate truth Guru granth sahib ji. .. waheguru Bless u all

He Himself created Himself. He is His Own Father, He is His Own Mother. He Himself is subtle and etheric; He Himself is manifest and obvious. O Nanak, His wondrous play cannot be understood. ANG 250

The biggest problem we have as muslims is when the Sikhs make the gurus divine in nature, from the Islamic point of view that Shirk attributing partnership with God.

I would love to see brother Hamza come to speaker's corner more often! Even though I understand that he is busy man...

Hamza believes in the tawheed and Jagraj has experienced it and that’s the main difference here, Its like being a chemist and learning about alcohol and understanding all of the science behind it and knowing the affects of alcohol - this is one part of epistemology where you use reason and logic (Hamza & Tawheed) Then there’s someone who drinks alcohol and has a first person experience of it, this is experiential knowledge - (This is Jagraj Singh experiencing Tawheed)

This sikh dude is very disrespectful, it's clear from many of his videos that he has some sort of emotional issue with Islam which probably stems from past geopolitical events. Brother Hamza wiped the floor with him masha'Allah. Check out the following website from a Muslim brother who deals with Sikhism: www.islam-sikhism.info/

Sikhism is growing really fast 👍

the muslim guy won this one by a mile sikh guy needs to stop using emotion as an argument it will always be broken down by rational arguments.

Alhamdullilah for the guidance Allah has blessed us with...Some people are taking the long road, but the destination will eventually be the same. May Allah guide all of us.

Thank Allah swt, our religion is based on pure evidence and not just faith. If we did not have clear evidence from God then anyone would be able to make their own religion to believe. God would never keep humanity in blindness. That is why God has sent Quran a guide for all Human kind.

Sikh guy is highly educated 🙏

My respect for Hamza just skyrocketed after this video. Beautiful adab & patience in the face of a person who keeps interrupting and throwing in redundant 'arguments'. May Allah bless him and increase him in Ilm and grant al firdous. Aameen

I like this Jagraj guy very straight forward

Marshallah brother hamza may Allah bless you and help your deen and knowledge to expand futher...first guy I see who has dismantled this guys belief...you are in my duas brother hamza keep going..definetly needs a part 2 awesome

This was a nice exchange between two sincere devotees. Sometimes the problem is language itself. Language is limited and the ideas they're attempting to covey to one another is vast. Sometimes one can because frustrated or flustered. Many of the folks posting ego-filled comments below could learn a thing or two from the humility of these guys.

Ustadh Hamza is being too nice!

Actually purple has a distinct wavelength that is why Hamzah corrected him by saying the experience of purple but he didn't get it

Hamza was very humble unlike the sikh lol

Gods light shined like a beam when Bhai Jugraj shared his knowledge, love and compassion to all.

Hamza andreas tzortzis 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😘

Hamza is the man mashaa Allah love this guy

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Lots lots lots lots of respect for Hamza.May Allah bless u n ur family n friends. u had him in the last.

We need to understand each other. good attitude of getting closer understanding and fair argument

The whole Sikh religion got exposed in this video.

29:04 Checkmate

Sikhi is preserved and miraculous.

Bhai Jugraj is a warrior of Knowledge and compassion!!!

Jay Smiths like "JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZAAAAAAAAAAAAAZE!!"

I think Jay smith should be banned from speakers corner '-'

Brother hamza is just amazing..

Hamza is so polite :)

the Sikh won if this was about defending

the reality is the sikh dude is too rude, hamza gave it to him. that how do you know with evidence your guru is true.

U guys a lucky to meet bhi jugraj singh

Sikh is doing a lot of waffling, not allowing hamza adequate time.

In speaking, in seeing and in words, remain immersed in the Shabad. The Word of the Guru's Bani vibrates throughout the four ages. As Truth, it teaches Truth. Egotism and possessiveness are eliminated, and the True One absorbs them into Himself. Those who remain lovingly absorbed in the True One see the Mansion of His Presence close at hand. ANG 35

Good job Hamza i think shabir yusuf need to talk to him aswell. we will see who is the nice guy then lol

Hamza so cool , smart ,,poised ,calculated, thorough, autonomous , rational and so vigilant of these data infested obscure angles that expose the gapping whimsicalness and impulsivity of his opponents.

Sikhism is based on subjective experience. It cannot be measured and examined by non believers.

islam gave the world enlightenment and european renaissance, and that just dont come from experience but logic and rationality, which islam is way ahead of all religion, becuase all religon only talk about their own experience, but cant talk about science or rationality. islam is spiritual as well as logical, and thats what you call a balanced reasoning.

I've listened to this carefully, and the sikh was severely outmatched. Hamza brought up some interesting points and asked some relevant questions, that the sikh couldn't answer. Now that's not to say that his religion doesn't have those answers, it may just be this person not having the required information/insights. But as he's there representing his faith, it looks kinda bad to be honest. I could sense him getting frustrated a bit towards the end, which comes from a place of inability. Hamza cornered him and he had trouble finding a way out. Like Hamza, I do appreciate his preachings about experiences and such, but Hamza is absolutely right in saying that there has to be (for most people at least) something more than that. The reason for this should be obvious; as the sikh can have his own experiences that affirm sikhism, the christian experiences the holy ghost, the hindu experiences this, the muslim experiences that, and so on. An outsider, hearing them all out, is going to remain in doubt as to whose experience ultimately is pointing towards truth. This is problematic especially because all of the conclusions of these experiences exclude one another. So for instance, the christian will, in the final analysis, claim that whatever path the sikh is following, will not lead him to salvation, as the christian beliefs differ from sikhi beliefs. So regardless of their lovely experiences and beautiful preachings, and I don't mean that sarcastically, but those aside: how does the outsider know which underlying truth-claim (that comes out of those experiences as a conclusion) would be true? They can't both be true at the same time as they contradict and exclude eachother. So they're either going to be both false, or one of them could be correct. Just them telling you about their personal experiences won't do as such, nomatter how convinced they are of them. They're going to have to explain to the outsider, rationally, why their respective beliefs would make more sense than others. The sikh in the video is actually trying to get rid of that exact aspect of the discussion: he doesn't want to talk about that. It's not so much about rational argumentation, as it is about true experiences, he claims. Well, the hindu can say the same, the christian can claim the exact same thing. That doesn't get us anywhere. So when you say: "this person here is my spiritual and moral leader because I believe he is a good person, and this person is know telling me what the divine wants of me", then that's nice and all, but unless you can explain to the outsider, rationally, why they should simply accept that, without going on and on about some experience that YOU may have had, then there's nothing to differentiate your beliefs, or your guru, from the beliefs of somebody else, or their shaman, or whatever. And so we leave that aside, we don't accept that. That's not us (muslims) questioning your sincerity, and we aren't putting down your spiritual leaders, it's merely a rejection of the criterion that is used, and specifically a problem we find in certain other criteria that are not there, that we think SHOULD also be present, for us to at least consider it.

Brother Hamza you are doing well. MashaAllah

love sikh people they good folk!

Sikh needs to relax ... it's like he likes the sound of his own voice. he thinks if he keeps talking people will forget the point .

I love u brother hamza tzortiz. They will accept islam in sah Allah

It finally clicks for the juggermeister at 29.20. Just goes on and on about experiences

Amazing mashaAllah Brother Hamza had a very profound, intellectual reasoning and argument to put to the sikh brother ......

Sikh guy method: try to impose his own ration, use his own logic. When he starts losing, or can't answer the questions then speak over and insult the opponent. plus speaks about divine love and divine experience but I feel a lot of hatred in his words. Not feeling the love. Very bad manners

HHHAAAAMMZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA nice to see you

Hamza sir was Masha Allah very patient

wow.hamza.love you bro

Is it allowed in speakers corner to shout like jay smith if it is then i suggest that muslims should make takbir and tahlil and tahmid for allah you get hasnat and make sure he doesn't do it again!

19:20 he realized his argument had no basis lol.....

hamza so much patience

you know its heating up when u hear the word no

this sikh goes full on defensive mode and starts insulting subtly whenever someone puts forth a few questions to him. I've seen him do this to various people.

The truth almost makes me arrogant. But ya Allah forgive me and guide these nonMuslims. I can't understand how people can lie to themselves.

tq the hard work ❤❤❤❤

a very calm and peaceful non patronising debate.

I think instead of most of you arguing who is right Islam vs Sikhism, why don't we ask the question, who most non muslims think they can live more peacefully alongside in the long term? my money is on the Sikhs, I don't see indication of them trying to convert me, or kill me because of refusal to pay a certain tax just for being non muslim. I don't get how muslims cant see this perspective from a non muslims viewpoint, obviously Sikhism is a better religion for everyone getting along together despite having different beliefs.

That sikh guy was rude

He knew he was in big trouble 15 whole minuter later after finally understanding brother Hamzas point, when he said " thats a good question"

Hamza Andreas Tzortzis, you are the latest version of Socrates 😍😍😍😘😘😘😘

29:05 - And that's when the penny dropped for Jagraj Singh...

The Sikh wanted to talk over hamza all the time

29:50 .. beautiful breakdown hamza

Hamza ❤️

Rip Jagraj ..great man ✨✨

it is obvious the Sikh won the debate. Ty 79Sarwar for being so honest and brave in sharing this video.!!!

hamza brother love you

"How can something as great as divine fit in any objective tests, the tests that are themselves limited by the restrains of our senses and their perception". The experience of divine is far beyond the prediction capacity of any objective tests.

Singh Saab makes claim but doesnt provide evidence to back up his claim that Hamza argument is wrong.

Sikh guy whole argument is based on emotional argument keeps attacking not allowing hamaza to talk he gets offended haha

the full video is up on basics of sikhi

Having a basis from experience isn't fact based. Quran provides a challenge to create a book like it, which is a fact based challenege.