Philip Voerding ALLSunni muslims love &cherish AHL AL BAYT . At least 5 times day we say "May Allah bless Muhammed & His family " every time we finish salah My father comes from HUSSEIN Ibn Ali mymother IS descendent from AlHASSAN Ibn Ali al badawi was hergrandfather one question to you as European Iguess why did you choose to be shia ?do you think a shia imam is infallible ? like ayatollah ?Do you reject the sunna ( you are going to be asked about at the Day of Jugment )do you accept what the say rather they insult the prophet' wife AICHA which means they insult his honor( &that also you will be asked about that I'm afraid ) read the biography of the prophet from sunni scholar books I advise you to know about both sides &YOU decide which is closer to Islamic Teaching

As-Salam Alaikum sister Aicha Belcaid. That is the saying of one Ayatullah. There have been and are multiple Ayatullahs, That is not what my Marja teaches. Intention is the key. There is so much misinformation about 12er Shia Muslims and what we believe that it becomes difficult to address everything. It has been 7 years or so since I recorded this video, and I have learned more about Islam and Muslims since then. I like true Sunni Muslims even more than I did back them. Yet, I am even more convinced now that I ought follow the Prophet and his family and the Jafari Madhab rather than the 4 Madhabs. Did you know both Abu Hanifa and Ibn Malik were students of the 6th Imam Jaffar As-Sadiq, the great grandson of the 3rd Imam Hussein? Yet, the Shafie Madhab is the closest to the Jafari Madhab, with the Maliki Madhab as a close 2nd. In classic times, Abu Hanifa and Hanafi sheikhs used to study with Mutazilite, Zaidi Shia, and 12er Shia Sheikhs? The Gap between Sunnis and Shias has widened since then, which is a shame, because we are all true Muslims! By the way, the first three years I investigated Islam and Muslims, I read Sunni Muslim authors, including Sufis, and the first Quran translation I ever read was a Sunni translation. I studied the 4 Madhabs and still have those books. I have studied Muslim History from several sides (more than just Sunni and 12er Shia groups). Why were 11 of 12 Shia Muslim Imams, all Sayyeds,murdered, and 10 of them by order of the Caliphs? Certainly I don't blame the Sunni Imams who have madhabs named for them for these murders, but fabrication of hadith by the Ummayad Dynasty of Caliphs is well known to both Sunni and Shia scholars. Sister, as for my use of the term "true Sunnis", I use the term because classical Sunni Muslim scholars like Ibn Kathir were Ummayad sympathizers despite living in the the time of the Abbasid Caliphate, write against the 12 Imams. Ibn Kathir wrote that Hussein Ibn Ali ibn Muhammad, our 3rd Imam, the 2nd son of the murdered 4th Caliph Ali Ibn Talib, our 1st Imam, was rightly, yes rightly, beheaded by his father's weapon by Caliph Yazid ibn Muhawiya Ibn Abu Sufyan's soldiers! That is a very well known passage from Ibn Kathir. He is not a true Sunni Muslim like you are, sister, since he believed that Imam Hussein deserved to be beheaded. Wahabis like the Saudis are called Sunnis when they are make fiqh differently than Sunnis do. I do like Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal himself, but many of the Hanbali scholars who followed him caused trouble even before Wahabism began. I don't care if the Saudis are considered allies of the USA, I say that is only because of oil money and no other reason. The Saudis, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, the Taliban, the modern Boca Haram ... all these groups are NOT true Sunnis and all are trying to exterminate Shia Muslims. As for Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, I have nothing but respect for him. I have watched many of his videos and bought one of his books. I agree with him that the Sunni-Shia controversy is an old one, and while my investigation of Islam and Muslim groups led me to become a Muslim as a 12er Shia Muslim, I believe true Sunnis are my brothers and sisters. But still, I need to come out on one side, and 12er Shia Muslim Aqeedah and Fiqh make the most sense for me. I believe Allah (SWT) is perfect. The 2nd Root of Religion for 12er Shia Muslims is Divine Justice. Therefore, I believe Allah is always just and never unjust because he is perfect. Even good Sunni scholars, who believe Allah is perfect, will say Allah doesn't have to always be just, but that is like saying He is not always perfect. On spiritual and philosophical grounds I cannot accept their view. Allah provides infallible scriptures, correct? For this reason, I believe Prophets and Messengers are protected by Allah and that protection allows them to be pure and infallible, so we can follow their example and their teaching and the scripture we get from them. If someone claims to be a messenger, but might not be pure and might not be infallible, how can I even trust he will give me Allah's message exactly as it was meant to be given? How can I follow their example if they might sin because they are not pure? They are Prophets and Messengers empowered by Allah, not by themselves, so they would not be pure and infallible with Allah's protection. Now, who rightly interprets Allah's scripture when the Messenger is no longer with us? Those who know. These people, can they make sins and teach heresy? How can I trust them if they are not pure and infallible? Dear Sister, if you can prove to me using Sunni books that all Sahaba were pure and infallible, and that the compilers or the 6 or 7 Sahih hadith books (7 if we include the Muwatta of Ibn Malik) were all pure and infallible, then I will be a Sunni Muslim and follow the Shafie Madhab. I can tell you there will be a problem immediately, because the 4 Imams for whom the Sunni Madhabs are named wrote terrible things about each other. Further, the 6 or 7 Sahih ahadith books have hadith that directly contradict each other. That is why I personally had to become a 12er Shia Muslim. Our 4 classic books of hadith are not considered to all be Sahih. The hadith are of different grades. Later books are compilations of the hadith considered to be authentic. However, the ONLY Shia Muslim hadith book that is considered 100% reliable is the As-Sahifa As-Sajjadiyyah of our 4th Imam Ali Zainul Abideen, the only male survivor of the battle of Karbala, who was later murdered by a Caliph. His prayer book and his Treatise on Rights, which are also used by some Sunnis who are Sufis, is considered fully authentic. The Nahjul Balagha of Imam Ali the 4th Calipj is a close 2nd, though a few things in that book are considered suspect. Those two books are followed by several other later compilations. I don't expect you to become a 12er Shia Muslim just because of what I wrote. I was raised a Christian and attended a Bible School, and did my own research after that. Even after I read the Quran and was pleasantly surprised, and then read Al-Ghazali and Rumi and Sunni books on hadith science and Aqeedah, then looked at what the 12er Shia Muslims had to say, it took me 6 months to actually give Shahada after I was convinced Islam was true. I know Christians who took longer, and some who try to be both Christian and Muslim, or stay Christian and study Muslim books also. But sister, you are already a Muslim, so you don't have to convert/revert to anything. If you do come to a place where you want to follow the two weighty things left by the Prophet: The Quran and his family, as a hadith in Sahih Muslim states, then you should become a 12er Shia Muslim. But sister, you are already a Muslim, and I believe good Sunni Muslims are Moomineen and Moomineena. 12 Patriarchs of Jacob/Israel. 12 Princes of Ishmael. 12 Apostles of Jesus Christ. 12 Imams of Muhammad. Blessings of Allah and Peace be upon all of them! Masalama dear sister.

Philip Voerding jaffa as sadique is asunni scholar his mother's name is Aicha Cz I studied ahl bait family tree from my father Shia took hold of his teachings and said falsely he was a Shia at his time there was no shia/sunni but only Muslims as a European u should have an independent free thinking I hope u reconsider u r iman about the 4 madhab in sunna they are rather schools each imam respected his fellow such as ashafie was a student of anas in Malik a well educated Muslim sunni respect all these imams the prophet saws said that Muslims will divided in73 groups only the ones who follow coran and sunna will be saved from hellfire

Philip Voerding Masya Allah, may Allah bless you Akhi

Thank you! And may Allah bless you and your, too.

sunnah

It's Quransharif & Sunnah.

@@syedsuhaibhasan4003 sahih muslim brother???? Where is sunnah mentioned in 6 books of hadith???

Allahumma Salli Alaa Sayyidina Muhammad Southeast Asia have been Muslim, thanks to Ahl Bayt that spread Islam here

Uyghur Malay , @ Uyghur Malay , It is mostly due to the hundred of thousands of the Sahabas , the taabi3ins, and so forth ,who brought Islam to Southeast Asia ; The AhluBayt numbers was much smaller , to have made a difference!

@@sidibouchrit their number were small, but they give large impact to us, from society, to culture, From A to Z. Our relationship between them are too strong, because of Ahl Bayt, with Allah will, most of our Kings embraced the Islam with helping from them, and due to our loyality towards King, whole kingdom embraced Islam

@@sidibouchrit also, there's no deny that some of traders from Arabia and Indian Subcontinent also give the contribution, but not too wide spread

@@sidibouchrit how do you know if you descended from him?

Glad to see a sunni who does not say " yazeed (ra)"

Lol i know most of u sunnis dont but i grew in an area surrounded by salafis who refer themeselves as sunnis so i didnt know that many sunnis who hated yazid la

ali said am a sunni ahlulbayt and I hate yazeed

"Fatema A.S is part of me, who angers her angers me and who angers me angers Allah!" Hadith from Bukhari. And Fatema A.S did not talk to Abu Bakr till her death.

Armand Baudouin spreading lies. Fatimah A.S didn't talk to Abu Bakr R.A regarding the inheritance anymore, not in general. true Muslims follow the middle path, love of Ahlul Bayte and the sahaba

They are try sunni scholars. Also listen to hazzor muffakir e islam pir syed abdul qadir jilani. The master of knowledge in today's world. I'm sure right I'm saying that tahir qadri has also taken knowledge from him and also shakyh syed ninowy

@@srxxx1326 yes he's also of the strongest scholars/syeds of the subcontinent

im not shia but i have alot of shia friends, we celebrate the good times of the prophet and his family, the shia celebrate and commemorate the good and bad times of the ahlul bayt, your statement is wrong and biased. shias love the ahlul bayt and sunnis love the companions more!

And maybe thats why your scholars don't like talking about ahlelbayt. They hide so much and is afraid that you become shia. The prophet said: " I leave behind two weighty things and if you hold to them, you wil never go astray. Ghoran and ahlelbayt

@@mightymo7607 Loving Ahl Bayt is a duty for All Muslim, Ahl Bayt spread Islam to Southeast Asia and still exist in society, bringing Sunni doctrine since day 1

A.s*

He's saying what they claim. He wouldn't know whether or not it's true. I doubt it myself. Not that it is impossible but royal families have alleged lineages from Pharaos, from Romans emperors, some even claim from Prophet Jesus (صلى الله عليه وسلم). Obviously it cannot all be true.

Im sunni. What Saman said is the true hadith. The family are still respected to the utmost level. We love them. Shiaism do have certain misguiding things. Going to extremes like infallibility and beating kneself is too much Saman. Its not necessary. Even we cry when we think abt what happened in karbala. Yazid will suffer in hell fire

What is "ghoran"

we do love them BUT wedonot worship them and we do not give them divine prerogatives. I am wondering how a monotheist jew can become a shia . there are so many shirks and heresies in shiism. Do use the link i sent previously and u will become a true muslim

A person in known by his father's lineage

He says that because of the hadith that includes them all

Salman farsi ra was also ahlul bait

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Imam Jafar As Sadiq (Rad) was descended from Hazrat Abu Bakr (Rad) from his mother's side and was a Sunni and married his children to Sunnis.

@@xtremeownage2 TF you on about. Muhammad ibn abu bakr hated his own father for usurping imam ali position. Because of this him and his sister ayesha never saw eye to eye one was raised by imam ali like a son while the other sibling had deep enimosity toward imam ali. Lastly, there were no sunnis back then there were only shia of ali or shia of abu bakr or other shia following the so called in the futured would come to be called "sunni"

Not all sunnis praise muawiyah and abu yazeed

Not true. They are mentioned

what do you disagree with exactly

neither was bhukari a scholar lol

Agent313 he was, your only saying that because your a rafidi😉

@@thestealth2448 for you anyone who says that is a rafidi. And for your information bhukari was the biggest rafidi since he rejected so many hadiths that he changed them took out certain people names and distorted Hadith from the truth. So mashallah biggest rafidi against the truth. I'm proud to be rafidi against batil aqida of yours.

@Ike Dakhlallah just shut the fuck up you dumbass. sunnism is hypocritcal religion made for slaving people its not islam period.

@@Agent.313 You're insulting people like Al-ghazali too?

A true Sunni will praise both the ahyle bayt and also the Sahaba. We know right to speak ill of anyone regardless of their actions. Thats the aqeeda of a true Sunni

Apologetic? U dont love the ahlul bayt? U dont love Hassan and Hussein and Fatima? How can u call urself a sunni muslim?

why don't you concentrate on your own ahadith books, and last time i checked tabari was a sunni source which sunnis agree upon. 300 years after hijra , yea your right so what as long as it can be verified. we do not call our ahadiths sahih. big mistake by you guys

Quran 2:124 " ALLAH said surely I am going to make you an Imam for men." Ibrahim said - and of my offspring ? He said: my covenant will not include the unjust. Quran 17:71 - one day we shall call every group of people by their respective Imams.

So you can know, ALLAH chooses the Imams and they cannot be unjust. I know who my Imam is and i thank ALLAH that he guides me to him. I will no longer respond to you Nknana, peace.

Noooo Shia don't love Maula Ali R.A because they are deviants and go against their teachings and insult the Beloved Companions of Rasool'ALLAH Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Ala Aleyhi Wa Sallim (don't abbreviate Durood Shareef) & the Yazeedi the ugly jahanami lanat on him and his followers was a deviant Shia and to harm yourself and follow yur version of the Deen rejecting the Ahadith doesn't make you amongst the Ummah Of Rasool'ALLAH Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Ala Aleyhi Wa Sallim because Hadhrat ALI r.a themself said they wud lash a person 80 times if they went against Hadhrat Abu Bakr Siddique r.a Do not say you're lovers of the Panjtan Paak when you don't even follow their teachings !!

You are misguided. Shia are misguided and have historically been enemies to the Ahlul Bayth. Imam Jafar As Sadiq (Rad) was Sunni, was descended from Hazrat Abu Bakr (Rad) from his mother's side and married his kids to Sunnis.