Thanks! 👍 I figured there would be more people like me trying the cheap pump for the Avenger, so now they can get an idea what it would be like before they buy. 😁

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks! 😀

Thanks! 👍 I'm thinking about how to make better targets next. I have some ideas, just need to get stuff and build it.

Thanks! The beauty of the Avenger is that you don't have to pick the pellet weight to control speed, you can do this with the hammer spring (in combination with the regulator). Also you don't have to buy a $1000 compressor. There are about a dozen comments on this video from people that got one for $300 from Amazon.

I just got into PCP and I decided to buy a $300 compressor instead of a hand pump, mainly because I'm doing this for fun and pumping the PCP by hand all the time takes a bit of the fun away from it, my PCP also has a larger tank so a bit more pumps.

It's not bad at all as long as you have an airgun with a smaller reservoir, probably for smaller calibers. It seems obvious now, but pumping a 80cc Hatsan Jet 2 takes less than half the pumps of a 180cc Avenger to the same pressure. I'd probably try to avoid filling up a 500cc reservoir all the way, but halfway should be ok.

You're welcome. If you're planning to buy something you may also have a look at the newer Avenge-X. It has a few features the original doesn't have, but it's more expensive. I made a video about upgrading my Avenger to get some of those features, though I can't change calibers like with the new one in case you're interested in doing that some day.

@@BitsOfInterest Thank you for the information. I'm wondering if the accuracy of your Avenger has stayed as good over time as it was when you adjusted it to it's best. I have an almost new break barrel. 22 I bought a month ago based of reviews about it's accuracy. Mine doesn't nearly live up to reports I'm getting while trying to find out how to make mine more accurate. I've done everything recommended including putting on a 3rd party scope. It's just not dependably accurate. I've watched videos high and low also on PCPs and one person says that accuracy can vary from the same rifle from time to time with no apparent cause while still using the same pellets that were previously accurate. I don't mind spending to get accuracy, but I'd be disappointed if the accuracy comes and goes away at just any various time with no apparent reason. Thank you.

The things that had most impact on accuracy for my break barrel (spring piston) were that the pellets I shot earlier were too light and were going too fast so I got heavier pellets. Also it kicked so much my scope kept getting loose. Don't get the cheapest scope rings (I tried them all, lol) get something that looks solid, maybe a single piece with 2 rings on it, and has a bunch of screws (4 per ring instead of 2). Also check the tightness every time you shoot and if you find good rings maybe use some loctite so the screws don't move. That said the Avenger doesn't kick the scope off and has been more accurate than my break barrel even on its worst days after I changed something, like different pellets or I tried the scope in a different spot on the rail. PS what I like about regulated PCPs like the Avenger is that you can dial it in for whatever pellet you want to shoot, you don't have to work around how it came out of the factory. If you don't mind some tinkering with settings it's perfect.

​@@BitsOfInterest Thank you for the reply and information. I do have a 1 piece mount and as you suggested and 4 screws on the rings The mounts don't look flimsy nor do they don't look monstrously heavy duty. I went so far as to buy an inch pound driver to be sure I had the screws tightened to factory specs and put the Locktite on ALL the scope screws, rings and all. The original scope had moving crosshairs whenever I moved my eye up/down/right/left so I bought a better scope that doesn't do that. Still, I get maybe 20 shots before my 1.5" groups grow larger. I'll try retightening the scope screws over and over. That's about all I haven't tries that you mentioned. Oh and I'm shooting 18.13 gr round nose pellets. I've tries several pellet brands and weights. Maybe I should try some pellets that are a little heavier still. I suspect I'll end up with a PCP even if I can find heavier pellets that give tighter groups. The best I'm getting ay 10 yards at the moment is 1.5" groups. That's disappointing. I especially liked that youm included showing how tough using a hand pump is to use. That makes me wonder if I should get a PCP pistil with a much smaller air chamber. They make a few pistols that have a stock brace available. Oh well. Thanks again.

The other thing about hand pumps is if you are just target shooting it's OK, but if you plan to hunt, forget about hand pumping. By the time you pump up your gun you target has probably left or flew off. I fill from a tank which I carry with me. I only use my compressor to fill my tank. Another reason I use a tank is because portable compressors or OK but by the time you go back to you vehicle (if you are hunting) and air up your gun and then come back the quarry has left. With a tank I can just sit it down once I find a good spot and when I run low on air just air it up on the spot.

Keep the pump! Just in case a air compressor died.

@@pricelesspppyea I did my crappy vevor compressor died and luckily previously I bought a hand pump so I could sill use my gun I bought a yong hung and so far it’s ten times better than

Thanks! I shoot offhand too normally. I only stabilize it on a saw horse to zero my scope. I like that the Avenger is so accurate that I'm the limiting factor 😋 When you have pellets flying all over because of the gun it takes the joy out of shooting for me...

@@BitsOfInterest Yeah, I shoot off of a support to zero, but love shooting offhand for most things. The Avenger is a nice plinker.

Thanks 👍 I can use the exercise because I don't see the point of lifting weights or running on a treadmill going nowhere, LOL 😜 It's really not that bad after a few times and I think I'm getting better at it. Yesterday I pumped it up to 4000 PSI because I wasn't tired yet at 3500 😂

Thanks! I probably will one day, maybe when the pump breaks :)

I haven't used it for 2-3 months now because it's too hot here to do anything outside, but it still holds the air I put it away with; the regulators look the same. I haven't had to touch the tuning after I set it up in the first week of owning it. I spend more time getting my scope right after I change something or the rings get loose :p

I'm getting better at it, haha. That first time from zero was a little rough because I had no idea how it would go and probably tried to do it too fast. From 1500 to 3500 is relatively easy now and last weekend I pumped it to 4000 because I wasn't tired of it yet at 3500. Slow and steady wins the race.

@@BitsOfInterest Did you notice after 3 or so pump sessions that the pump seemed to break in and has less resistance? I'm not sure if it's just my imagination.

@@jimsandall2073 That could be, though I like to tell myself I'm getting better at it, haha. Maybe the oil had to work its way through all the parts or something. Which reminds me, I believe I have to add a drop of oil after so many pumps, which I haven't done yet. I also need to lube the bolt probe on the Avenger after 300 shots or so, which I've gone past...

Not sure what that means, but it looks like you enjoyed the video. Thanks :)

Thanks! Good to hear it helped you make up your mind on that decision ;)

Agreed, if I'd only get 20-30 shots with a heavy slug I'd feel different. I also wouldn't enter a competition with a hand pump. It's part of the reason I shoot lighter pellets and lowered the regulator, so that I get a reasonable 60 shots without too much pumping. Before I have to worry about all that I need to practice in my backyard more and get better at offhand shooting, which I do most. A bench or rest feels like cheating for what I do 😜👍

good work out dude embrace it

Wow, that sounds like quite the project. Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just fill it from a bottle instead of modding a bottle onto the rifle? 😁 I'm not that comfortable taking this thing apart, so the most I'd personally do is make a wood stock for it one day, haha.

@@BitsOfInterest modding is half the fun

@@MrTyroneweaver I totally get that 👍 A lot of times I enjoy the project more than the end result and I'm on to the next thing 😁

@@BitsOfInterest It doesn't take much to fit a bottle to the Avenger. You can see people that have done it on KZfaq. They sell the adapter. My 177cal Avenger gets 130 shots at my current settings. So I don't need the bottle. If I had the 25cal. I would do it.

@@heithwatkins Thanks! I thought you'd had to fabricobble the parts yourself... It's less work than putting that hand pump together, LOL 😂 I'm definitely taking this into consideration if/when I make a custom stock. Edit: $150 for the adapter (on a $350 rifle) is a little steep though. Hopefully they can lower the cost if they can manufacture higher volumes...

I don't have to win the lottery per se, I just have different priorities, lol. I don't shoot that much, 60 shots for a session is fine with me. When I feel the hand pump is limiting me to shoot more I'll get one of those $300 compressors, but I will eventually 😜👍

Thanks! 👍 As an average shooter I like that I'm the biggest variable, not the equipment 😉 I get decent results with cheap pellets (2 cents/piece) but you can pay 2-3x for sorted ones that are nearly identical if you shoot competitions. If you were ever to consider trying out airguns I'd highly suggest going for a regulated PCP so that you can set the pressure and it delivers the same power for dozens of shots until it falls off the regulator (pressure lower than you set it). PS did I mention that most smaller calibers are pretty quiet and don't upset your neighbors if you shoot in your backyard? If you were to go bigger and louder you can also buy moderators without any special paperwork 😁

Yeah, it's possible (some reviewers say it's not) but those last 75 pumps to 4350 psi are also the hardest ones, LOL 😋. I'm ok with 60 shots from 3500 psi and if I want to shoot more I'll just pump it back to 3500 for another 60 😁👍

Mine didn't come assembled, but following the instructions didn't prevent the leaking. Makes sense to use thread tape anyway in this type of application.

Sure, if you've spent the money on 20 PCPs then a compressor and tank is just a fraction of that. For me with just one cheap PCP it would be more for a compressor than the Avenger itself. I don't think it's that bad to pump so far, but I may change my mind if I get a PCP with a larger capacity like a 480cc bottle. The Avenger is only 180cc.

@@BitsOfInterest Yeah I ended up being an airgun junkie, but some were purchased as refurbs. It's a fun hobby but can get to be expensive. I have a 22 and 25 avenger and once you tune them they are a lazer.

Wow, 20 pcp Airguns and here I am trying to make homemade pcp airgun for 2 months cuz i don't have money 😋

@@KashifJarwar 1st off I brought a lot of them as Refurbs, 2nd, 5 of them are entry level pcps, I worked my way up to the high ends guns once I really got into air gunning. It can get to be expensive with buying a compressor and or tank but its worth it. Takes less time to fill and shoot and doesn't wear you out when hand pumping. My suggestion is start off with an entry level pcp like the Hatsan flash, gamo urban, the gaunlet or avenger. They sell for around $300-350.00. 2nd check on Ebay, or Amazon, or Pyramyd Air for refurbs guns.

@@KashifJarwar are you trying to build one of those single shot 300 bar hand cannons like Joerg Sprave? I would not want to pump it up for every shot... I would think the valving for a multi shot airgun would be too difficult to build unless you're a machinist experienced with pneumatics... Also it'll likely cost more to make that than buying an Avenger?

Thanks!

The magazines are fine, though I have nothing to compare them to. They certainly beat a break barrel 😋 Maybe something to look for is regulator creep; when you rest your gun for an hour or more all of a sudden the regulator shows a higher pressure than you set it for. I think I have it but I don't feel like going through the hassle of a RMA. It's only for the first shot and then it goes away if I keep shooting. I just dry fire the first one before I start. Edit: this PCP is way more accurate than I am when shooting in the standing position, so I don't worry about it too much. I started with BB's and cheap break barrels, so just having it hit where you aim is really nice in my opinion. If you miss you have to aim better, LOL 😜

Cool!! I’m really excited! Shipping got delayed by a day.. I even bought a Crosman vigilante for the wife for Valentines.

@@BitsOfInterest Reg creep is normal. Even higher priced guns have it. That's why FX is using 2 regs to help reduce it. If it only raises 100, or 200psi but settles after a few shots. Don't worry about it. Liked and subscribed 👍

@@heithwatkins yeah, I kept hearing about reg creep and being new to PCPs I thought that's what it was. For me it goes away after the first shot. Having looked into it more I saw some cases (not the Avenger necessarily) where the regulator saw the same pressure as the reservoir, now that would be a problem...

A few years ago I got a scope from Discovery Optics, 4-16x42 AOE. It's a little overkill for what I'm doing because I usually shoot it at 8x. I just double whatever the mil dots are supposed to mean. Many commented here that they got a Yong Heng compressor. So you can get that for around $300 or a hand pump for around $50. All on Amazon, the scope as well.

Mine was 1600 PSI with 1/4 turn, so I started over and did a little less than 1/4 turn and now it's 1500 PSI. You should probably start around 1/8th turn and move it up to get to 1400 PSI.

@@BitsOfInterest thank you for the reply. I guess so. The initial stage is very nonlinear and a little turn will easily result in 1500psi.

@@aannddyychang6162 So I never actually had to adjust it after "the initial turn". First time it was 1600, second try it landed on 1500. Also don't forget to (dry) fire it a few times after every adjustment. It may look off but settle lower after a few shots.

I have kept my Avenger for longer than a month without losing pressure. It should not change. If it does I'd contact the dealer and ask for a new one if they can't fix it. The only thing I do see is that after a day or more the regulator shows a slightly higher pressure than I set it, but that goes away after the first shot. The regulator is only set once if you shoot the same pellet weight. You'd only change it if you switch from pellet to slug or from light to heavy for example.

@@BitsOfInterest hi thanks for your replying So you’re basically telling me that I have to shoot the rifle after pumping it up and setting the regulator? If so how many times? Thats my first air rifle ever Thanks again Best regards Andrea

I mean my question is Do I have to shot to let the air stop from leaking?

@@andreapaganomusic826 I'm not sure If I understand your question correctly, but it should not leak air/pressure under any circumstances. It's important to not adjust the regulator down/closed when there is air/pressure in the airgun, it will break the regulator. I show this in the video and it's in the manual also. Only adjust the regulator down when it's completely empty. Once you have the regulator where you want it you won't have to change it again unless you change to different weight pellets.

@@BitsOfInterest so basically I have yet to shot mine but has been losing some air over a week, I don’t screw up the regulator when there’s air in the tank because like you said and the manual says, it damages the regulator. I only screw when it’s empty and unscrew to fill the regulator when there’s air in the tank. So my question is, do I have to shot the Avenger to let it stop from air ? Thanks

Thanks! I used to have a pump BB gun, but that of course wasn't accurate at all because of the lack of rifling. What I like about the PCP design is how fast you can make your next shot, especially with the 10 pellet magazine. Also a pump gun you wouldn't be able to fill from a SCBA tank or compressor if you'd chose to invest in those later. It's pretty common for older and cheaper PCPs to have to degass before moving the regulator down. The only PCPs I know of that can be adjusted without starting over are expensive high end ones like FX, but then you're spending $2000 not $350. You can adjust the hammer spring when it's charged, so you can control the speed, just not the power if you want to switch to a lighter pellet. Regulator and hammer spring should move up and down together though, so not sure how useful that is.

You can tune the secondary regulator UP in PSI but if you want to go down you have to degas the gun. So if you are in tuning mode you would set the regulator at a low pressure and then increase a bit and test, until you get what you want.

@@BitsOfInterest Adjusting the hammer spring: So , if I lower the hammer spring pressure, does some of that air stay in the gun, thus requiring less fill from the on-board bottle; or is that air wasted in some way?

@@tkarlmann That's maybe better answered by a PCP expert (not me). Logically, changing the hammer spring just changes how fast you release the air in the plenum, therefore changing the speed of the pellet. I did hear in other videos that you should have the valve close before the pellet leaves the barrel or the additional air could destabilize the pellet on the way out, so you shouldn't turn it down too low.

Yeah, buying cheap stuff is always a gamble. As I said in the video, mine was leaky, but luckily I could fix it with thread tape and it's working fine now.

I can only shoot one at a time 😜 Sure, once I've spent $3000 on PCPs I likely get a compressor and bottle, but I'm not there yet. I have about $500 in the Avenger, scope and hand pump and I'm shooting cheap Crosman Premiers in my backyard. Looking at PCP videos it can feel like you need $1000 worth of other stuff to get started, but that's not the case and I don't want to discourage anyone from getting into the hobby.

Mine also didn't come with a pump. Just search on Google or Amazon for "high pressure hand pump" and you'll get a lot of results. Mine doesn't have any branding on it, but it's one of these products that all come from the same factory and is sold by various resellers/brands. They usually say that they are three stage pumps and go up to 4500 PSI. Most of them have some reference to PCP airguns. Just make sure it comes with a quick disconnect or you'll have to buy an adapter somewhere.

Thanks for your reply

Unfortunately my old (cheap) .177 isn't tunable. The only way to fix the accuracy was to use the heavier 10.5 gr pellets I show in the video.

As I said in the video, a compressor costs as much or more than the Avenger. Maybe if I get an expensive gun like an FX and have big bottles or even multiple bottles I will. I don't see that happening any time soon though.

WELL. If 250 dollars and some are less you need to stick with break barrels... I not trying to be an ass but damn.

@@billreynolds2766 it's all good. I'm not saying you shouldn't buy a compressor, I'm just saying I'm fine with the pump for now, but that's different for everyone. Maybe I'll put that $250-350 towards a PCP pistol first 😜👍

I can’t believe anyone uses those hand pumps. Insane. Bought a nomad 2 clone. Fills the guns fast. And if you have a big bore that you’re getting 3-10 shots a fill, your not going to like that hand pump anymore lol

It has an oil/water separator in that red piece at the end of the hose.

No worries, it's confusing. Different PCPs and pumps can have different fittings/probes. You just have to make sure the PCP and pump use the same kind (obviously male/female versions) or that you can screw an adapter on your pump.

It comes shipped with some pressure in it and the manual says you should store it with pressure in it. It doesn't leak air even if I put it away for a few months.

Interesting idea about the mud flap, I wish I had one for cheap so I could test it. I'm not sure it would stop a .22 but it probably does a .177. Then again, if you have multiple shots in the same place, which is what happens with targets, I think any airgun will eventually go through. You could put a piece of metal behind it so that the rubber stops the pellets from bouncing back, but the metal stops them. Sure worth trying the mud flap if you don't have to spend a lot on it.

Totally agree. I've had my eye on PCPs for a few years but all the adjustable ones were $500+. The Avenger does everything I need it to do. So nice that it actually hits where you aim as compared to the cheap break barrel I had before this, LOL 😜

That's probably because the reservoir is twice the size of that on the Avenger. The Avenger has 180 cc and it's not too bad to fill. I recently got a Hatsan Jet 2 that only has 80 cc and it takes half the time to pump it to 250 bar compared to the Avenger, it's super easy. Still gets about 60 shots, although it's in .177 around 10 foot pounds. More power more pumps...

I have the regulator at +/- 1500 PSI (100 bar). For both the Crosman and Avenger I zero the scope at 20 yards (18m). When I do that I also have a zero around 30 yards (27m) so from 20 to 30 yards it's very flat and I don't need to adjust.

Ayúdame con lo del resorte del martillo amigo. Tengo el mismo rifle y valines.

@@BitsOfInterest para que sea más precisó cuántas vueltas le diste al resorte y para que lado

I got it on Amazon. There are many listings from different sellers and they all look pretty much the same. This is the link to the one I bought: www.amazon.com/dp/B07RJR24X3?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details

@@BitsOfInterest thanks bro.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your question, but the manual tells you how to adjust and I also show it in the video. For the .22 caliber I would go with 100 PSI per grain of pellet, so 15 grain 1500 PSI, 25 grain 2500 PSI etc.

Yeah, but how do I get my workout then ;) If you shoot a lot it's worth it for sure. I'm mostly a fair weather shooter and after 6 mags it's time to do something else, lol.

Probably, yeah. Though a lot of times they have a much larger reservoir than the 180cc the Avenger has. Not sure getting a 480cc bottle to 3000 PSI is going to be much easier, it would take much longer?

@@BitsOfInterest Well the two pcp's I've been looking at lately are the new Gamo Arrow and Barra 1100z, and they have 125cc and 150cc reservoirs so think they designed them for using with handpumps more as budget option. Sounds like you get decent shots filling up below 4000psi so probably works out fine either way.

Those shouldn't be too difficult to pump. Too bad it looks like they aren't regulated or adjustable for what I see. You kind of have to pick the right pellets to get the right speed for optimal accuracy, similar to my old break barrel.

@@BitsOfInterest Definitely agree with you though on how the break barrel pellet rifles chase the fps numbers advertising high velocity and it's basically the exact opposite you want. Wish a company would make a budget priced carbine size pcp that shot .25 cal around 750 fps

Thanks for the tip. Good to see that they keep getting better and cheaper. I might get one one day.

@@BitsOfInterest Very quiet $25.00 moderator at buck rail.

In the US you can buy the airgun and pump on Amazon. I don't know how it is outside the US. If not on Amazon maybe you have a local website that is similar or you have local stores that sell airguns.

I'm not sure what those are, but a lot of people use SCBA tanks, the ones used for diving. If you're filling up your PCP to 300 bar / 4350 PSI your air tank needs to hold more than that. If the one you're talking about can do that it should work.

@@BitsOfInterest I mean one you buy at an auto parts store, and keep in your car trunk. 7gal air holder.

@@filoIII If you mean the ones to pump a tire they won't work. I see one for $40 that only goes to 125 PSI; your airgun goes up to 4350 PSI and can't go below 1000 PSI.

@@BitsOfInterest I'm ignorant of the subject. WHY can't some sort of tire air filler, be it a metal air holder tank, or a bicycle pump, w/ the proper attachment, work on these airguns? ty

@@filoIII As I said before, they can't deliver the pressure needed to operate the airgun.

There are two ways to make it easier for you: get a compressor for around $300 from Amazon or get a pistol or carbine with a smaller tank so that it's quicker and easier to pump 😉👍

@@BitsOfInterest I was interested in the Hatsan Jet Carbine. I wonder if that tank is small enough to use the hand pump? its a 40cc tank. You think that would not be too bad?

@@MultiSkyman1 I have the Hatsan Jet 2 which has an 80cc tank instead of the 180cc on the Avenger and it's literally less than half the effort. I got it in .177 because it's less than half the power of the Avenger and I would like it to shoot relatively flat. I still get around 60 shots though with less effort 😉👍 I imagine the 40cc Hatsan Jet 1 is again less than half the effort and you'll probably get around 30 shots, or you can get the Jet 2 and pump it halfway 😜 when the pressure goes up it gets harder, so if you never go all the way it's easier. Edit: in other words, 3000 psi is 3000 psi in terms of how hard that one pump is. It's just that with a smaller tank you get there faster so you don't have to struggle as long to get there.

That's a very nice setup you have there, though probably 10x the price of what I'm showing in the video, haha. I understand that hand pumping isn't for everyone. I would love to own an FX Dreamline one day and then I'll most likely get a (cheap) compressor. Right now I can't really justify the cost unless I get an unexpected $2000 I don't know what to do with :)

This type of information you may be able to find on a local airgun forum if one exists for the Philippines specifically. Otherwise I would search for airgun stores in the Philippines and check their websites. Since these are manufactured in China by another company, there is also a chance that they are sold under a different brand where you live. As an example, the Umarex Origin looks very similar, though it's not exactly the same.

+/- 1500 PSI/100 bar, 1.5 turns on the hammer spring.

@@BitsOfInterest sabes a que velocidad los tira así

@@BitsOfInterest aunmenta el número de tiros al bajarle al regulador

I don't have a chronograph, but it should be close to 850 ft/s, 260 m/s based on the results from AEAC.

I get 60 shots from 3500 PSI/240 bar. It should be close to 90 shots from fully charged at 4350 PSI/300 bar.

If you take your time it's very doable, but if you're in a hurry it's a workout for sure. You can always get one of those compressors everyone is telling me to buy instead ;)

@@BitsOfInterest I like the pump set up because you save so much on CO2 canisters and are as green as you can get for the environment.

@@johnnybbgunner2136 It's also nice that the pump works when you're out of cartridges when the store is closed and even when you don't have electricity nearby. PS I wouldn't really compare CO2 guns to PCP guns, because depending on what's allowed in the country you live in PCP's can be more than 10x as powerful.

@@BitsOfInterest I have a pump and pistol arriving any day now and am hoping I can get the pump up to 200 bars under 50 pumps. We will see when it arrives and I do a demo once I read up and do final assembly.

@@johnnybbgunner2136 I don't have a PCP pistol (yet) but that could very well be possible. The Avenger has a 180cc reservoir and I imagine your pistol's reservoir is much smaller. I also want to get a PCP pistol, but only if it's regulated and as adjustable as the Avenger for a reasonable price. I looked a while back and it didn't seem to exist...

Good to know and to have as a reference for if I need it later. I'm not sure what brand mine is, but they all come from the same factory probably :p

@@BitsOfInterest Yes, most likely! I still love mine, once I fixed that stupid O-ring, it works as good as new!

Haha, eventually I'll get one. Maybe when my pump breaks or if I want to shoot more.

I got it to 4000 PSI, so 4350 should be possible, but as I mentioned in the video, I don't think it's worth it. I'm around 200 lbs indeed and need to use all my weight to get that pump down 😂. 3500 PSI is so much easier and the difference is maybe 15 or 20 shots.

@@BitsOfInterest Lol it's a work out for sure.

+/- 1500 PSI / 100 bar Edit: first try with a quarter turn I ended up around 1600 PSI, second try I did a little less than a quarter turn on the reg to get to 1500 PSI.

@@BitsOfInterest that going start with that just get the 22cal today

@@moetown909s3 that's great that they changed that. Much easier to adjust the reg up than down.

You right about that

www.amazon.com/HIRAM-Pressure-Filling-Stirrup-Stainless/dp/B07RJR24X3/

I don't have a chronograph, but based on pellet weight and observed trajectory it should be around 850 FPS for around 15gr. Whatever it is, it's shooting very stable and that's what I care most about ;)

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Nah, maybe if I get a more expensive airgun or shoot hundreds of pellets in a day 😉

@@BitsOfInterest ya but hand pump burns up quick without proper maintenance as well as puts water moisture inside of you regulated air rifle will mess up your investment 👍

That's like your opinion, man 😜 For me personally cost is very important, why else buy the Avenger? I can also get an FX Impact. I want the tool (Avenger) but I don't want to spend the same or more on accessories like a pump or a scope and I'm willing to put in the work.

Exactly my point :) Most compressors are more expensive than the Avenger itself. This raises the cost to get shooting significantly. My idea is that many will want to try to get by with a pump first, so I'm showing my experience to prepare them for a workout :p It's doable if you set your expectations right.

@@BitsOfInterest I’m just getting into pcp air guns it gets super expensive real fast even tho my air compressor costs as much as the rifle I’ll still love the air compressor

I'm sure you do love it, so would I if I had one. I only shoot a few times a month when the weather is nice, so I can't really justify the cost to myself right now. If I start shooting a lot more I'd certainly consider it.

@@BitsOfInterest I get ur point the reason I mentioned the air compressor is for anyone else who might see that comment while watching ur video. It can be stressful finding the perfect gear for ur perfect rifle. I saw ur video as I was doing research on KZfaq I myself own the Air Ventura Avenger in .25 cal

You could do that, but I'm both lazy and impatient 😜 a 5-10 min break is sufficient to catch my breath usually.

Nah, it's ok for now ;) Maybe if I start shooting a lot more than I do now I might. For the time being I'd rather buy another PCP with that same money :p

First time from 0 to 3000 PSI was a lot harder because I wasn't used to the motion. Now from 1500 to 4000 PSI isn't that bad. You just have to find the right posture and rhythm.

@@BitsOfInterest I love this video BOI. Great job. I'm currently waiting for the store I normally buy from to restock this gun in 22 cal. I can't afford a compressor now so the hand pump route is the way to go for me as well. After viewing AEAC's tuning video the other day, I'll be tuning my future Avenger down to 1400-1600 psi; with a 1.50 clockwise turn on the hammer spring. My question to you is how many pumps does it take for you to fill from the 1500 psi point to 3,500 or 4,000 psi?

@@apallo88 Thanks! I haven't really counted much since I made the video, but it's roughly 50 pumps per 500 PSI I think. A compressor makes life a lot easier, but a pump works just fine. I just got a PCP pistol with the money I would've otherwise spent on a compressor 😁👍

@@BitsOfInterest At 1500psi and 1.5 turns on the spring, what are you averaging in terms of fps? Are you using 18 grain pellets or 14 to 15 gr pells? I'm looking to shoot pellets from 14-16 grains so the eco tune looks like the best setting for these diabolo pellets.

@@apallo88 I don't have a chronograph but I figure it must be around 850 fps. At two turns I got disappointing groups, at 1.75 it started to tighten up, at 1.5 it became a same hole kind of situation 😁👍 You can see the part where I did my first shots at 2 turns in those boards up against the fence that 5 shots looked like 3 touching holes even at that short distance. With 1.5 turns a 10 shot magazine goes through the same hole. I'd worry less about speed and energy and just try to get the best results for the pellet that you're shooting. You want to see them go in the same hole, then you have the right speed. PS all my pellets are 14-15 grains