What if France Invaded Belgium Instead of Germany in WW1? | HOI4 Timelapse

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HandOfWar

HandOfWar

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How will Britain and the U.S. react now? Will France be the bad guy now and Germany is on the good side? Let's find out!
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0:04 The Lore
0:16 Invasion Of Libya
0:22 Balkan Wars
0:50 WW1
4:54 Peace Treaty
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7:30 Aftermath & Thanks!

Пікірлер: 64
@HandOfWar
@HandOfWar 10 ай бұрын
Hey, I wanted to ask you guys if I should let the Balkan wars out in the future if they happen as usual. I've already speeded it up as much as possible. What do you think? Should they stay?
@dingozi3428
@dingozi3428 10 ай бұрын
love your videos and can you make a video a mega campaign like Danthehistorian did now in his latest video transfer between a mods in Hearts of Iron 4: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbaYodljltibfo0.html
@broccoli_jaeger
@broccoli_jaeger 10 ай бұрын
If the Balkan wars aren't different you can cut them out
@pojnacoviceaproductions514
@pojnacoviceaproductions514 10 ай бұрын
They should definitely stay!
@Njuregen
@Njuregen 10 ай бұрын
The second war, is always Bulgaria being dumb and not even covering the Romania border so they walk in, so nothing special unless they would win for a change (which I only seen happen once).
@careloes
@careloes 10 ай бұрын
If nothing changes.
@begemod1743
@begemod1743 10 ай бұрын
I think everyone wants part 2 right?
@lordvader9712
@lordvader9712 10 ай бұрын
Of course!
@mp5856a
@mp5856a 10 ай бұрын
This would be really interesting; there’s a serious Soviet alliance possible and the US could flip either way, or go a third way
@anabelenmontero1425
@anabelenmontero1425 10 ай бұрын
Yah
@alejandroemanuelschar2399
@alejandroemanuelschar2399 10 ай бұрын
Yes
@JustmeMaddleLoL
@JustmeMaddleLoL 10 ай бұрын
Right
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 10 ай бұрын
Problem: if Britain isn't in the entente then Italy also isn't, they were the ones to push Italy to join, Italy would have probably stuck with the central powers or neutrality in this timeline
@Njuregen
@Njuregen 10 ай бұрын
The leading figure behind Italy joining the entente was a prime minister they had, he was anti-Austrian pretty much. Italy had factions each wanting to be on either side, but many wanted neutrality to keep trading like the Dutch or Spain did.
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 10 ай бұрын
@@Njuregen it was the British promises of land that convinced the king to join though
@CarterFootBum12
@CarterFootBum12 10 ай бұрын
@@giulianopisciottano8302france prob would of tried.
@bitshox1215
@bitshox1215 10 ай бұрын
Britain still would've sided with France even if they invaded Belgium. The old treaty affirming Belgian neutrality was used as a pretext for convincing the British public that war was necessary, as British foreign policy had focused on building an alliance with France and Russia since 1902 and they weren't going to break it over an old treaty that they didn't genuinely care about.
@ValkyrieSirena
@ValkyrieSirena 10 ай бұрын
Probably would stay out of the war and watch them fight
@Idoexist._.
@Idoexist._. 10 ай бұрын
Yeah. The MAXIMUM outrage is UK forming other faction. But yeah uk would ve sided with french.
@HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG
@HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG 10 ай бұрын
Who knows considering genuine political allies, the secret Tyrell mission turn successful.
@gengarzilla1685
@gengarzilla1685 Ай бұрын
If there's any great power who would have been turned off by this action, it's the USA. They'd definitely stay neutral here.
@Njuregen
@Njuregen 10 ай бұрын
Why does it seem in this mod the Soviet and Russians often bug out, their units get stuck and they not even push when there no troops on their lines and wait and wait, sometimes so bad the enemy totally recovers.
@alessandroroccaforte4515
@alessandroroccaforte4515 10 ай бұрын
Thx bro for putting my idea !
@BavarianMapping
@BavarianMapping 10 ай бұрын
awesome video :)
@raiden5181
@raiden5181 10 ай бұрын
what if in games like these where some of the members dont get any territory due to not having the claims you make some nice and fair borders using the state transfer tool
@histo6651
@histo6651 10 ай бұрын
Yeah the ai peace deals suck. İn general peace deals suck. Oh i won a war now ur entire nation is mine! Like in normal wars its more like: After countless deaths and unimaginable suffering i am so happy to recieve reperations and a few bit of colonies! ( tbh this reperation stuff is alr in the game why not make it make more sense ). I always want to roleplay in the game by taking a few states creating indipendent countries and also getting repeations and ships ( they are still indipendent ). But that just feels bad to do since you know why roleplay and act like the war is a real war while you can just annex the whole thing. Ruins the game for me tbh. Its meant to be a realistic war game. Was Germany a full puppet after WW1? It took 2 WORLD WARS for them to be puppets. And they still got indipendence. Thats realistic. Sad but true. Unless you are an empire with the idea to unite a race annexing everything is not realistic at all. The game lacks in peace conferences. Why not make the reperation/demilitarization things more useful than Annex All? Just WHY
@raiden5181
@raiden5181 10 ай бұрын
fr tho@@histo6651
@GroundBack
@GroundBack 10 ай бұрын
Good video!
@alfa9102
@alfa9102 10 ай бұрын
Could we have a part 2?
@VittorioEmanueleIIIDs
@VittorioEmanueleIIIDs 10 ай бұрын
Please 2 part with the reunification of Italy kingdom
@raymondsanchez9988
@raymondsanchez9988 10 ай бұрын
This is like a scuffed version of KaiserReich
@user-ty5go3qi4j
@user-ty5go3qi4j 10 ай бұрын
Hey,can you make what if China was Ruled by Mao and USSR by Trotzkyj?
@mertt7749
@mertt7749 10 ай бұрын
I've always wondered what timelapse would have been if the nazis won after hitler died in the german civil war that starts with oppose Hitler. can you do it please.
@juliansstt2022
@juliansstt2022 10 ай бұрын
Hey i see HOI4 is in discount i have a low end pc, could it run HOI4?
@histo6651
@histo6651 10 ай бұрын
Yeah but u should get a few mods that help ur peace not turn to ash. Plus u cant use some mods. Also u cant play till later dates. U cant continue after a while. Just dont get hoi4. The dlcs are costly and u could probably buy a new PC with that money if you save enough.
@afisto6647
@afisto6647 2 ай бұрын
Plan faucille
@sahilhossain8204
@sahilhossain8204 10 ай бұрын
Lore of What if France Invaded Belgium Instead of Germany in WW1? | HOI4 Timelapse Momentum 100
@parsashojai6945
@parsashojai6945 10 ай бұрын
What if WW1 broke out in 1911?
@juandt1234
@juandt1234 10 ай бұрын
So basically WW1 starts bc of Agadir Crisis?
@fr0ntend
@fr0ntend 10 ай бұрын
Can you do a "what if the ww1 alliances were different? like, if we have Germany, France, Serbia, Romania and Italy vs UK, Russia, Ottoman, Bulgaria and AUH?
@malopthemapper
@malopthemapper 10 ай бұрын
Part 2 in Kaiserreich?
@damianmandras8283
@damianmandras8283 10 ай бұрын
Thats just the vanilla mode, britatain was good ally with belgium and when germany tried to encircle france admin after capturingn belgium, england dint like that
@damianmandras8283
@damianmandras8283 10 ай бұрын
Army*
@Rowlph8888
@Rowlph8888 14 күн бұрын
No way does Britain join Germany.There main priority was always to maintain a balance of power on the continent, hence coordinating activity against Napoleon.If France invaded Belgium Britain would either support France to neutralise the growing threat of Germany, which was much more of a threat to Britain's empire than France, or they would stay neutral and watched you see what happens before joining later
@charmyzard
@charmyzard 10 ай бұрын
Britain would allow it. French planes were already passing through Belguim and into Germany, and remember that their beef was with Germany, not the French, joking many times along the lines of "Britain would be a fool not to go to war with Germany." Belgium was only the excuse for entry.
@matthiuskoenig3378
@matthiuskoenig3378 9 ай бұрын
There was actually a massive debate in parliament, with a significant part argueing against war with Germany, the majority infact. until the invasion of Belgim was used as an excuse for the king and cabinet to by-pass parliament (citing old treaties over Belgian neutrality). Russia was also seen as a big threat, and the British did not want a french dominated Europe either (infact there was a massive fear of France controlling antwerp in particular). They didn't just have a rivalry with Germany. And germany was Britian's biggest European trading partner. Furthermore the British had told the french in 1912 that they were uncompromising on Belgium neutrality even if the french were the invaders. Implieing that atleast in 1912 the British would have gone to war with France over Belgium. If Germany had not invaded Belgium then Britian would likely remain neutral, atleast intially (depending on how long the war go's and how it goes would depend on who they join), parliament and general civilian attitudes was against getting involved. In such a scenario the germans would have had to have a plan of defending against France and trying to knotch out Russia before they fully mobilize. Which means Germany probably doesn't even declare war on France and also has more fortifications on the french border. And France is the one haveing to declarewar to support Russia. We know from french plans that they intended to delay this as long as possible in order to try and help paint the germans as agresssors. This means they Likely don't even declare war in the first month or 2 and only do so when it's clear the germans are taking a defensive stance with them and are pumling Russia (for the sake of the scenario we'll say the Russians are convinced not to take any mild peace deals offered by the germans and the french declare war) and the french try and invade through Lorraine at first, but this should quickly bog down due to German defences and the narrow front, at most ehy get to the rhine, but it's likely they are bogged down before that. Italy would have to declare war on France due to treaty (they got around that in the OTL due to Germany being the owns declaring war on France) and probably would not try and weasel out of it as britian is neutral (the italians had territorial claims on both sides, and it was fear of the British navy that tipped the scales OTL) but this probably doesn't go any better than the italian attack on Austria. The stalemate continues on the french borders, if Germany continues to focus down Russia then the french might act in desperation and invade Belgium to get to Germany (we know they had plans to do so, but wanted to try and get Germany to do it first, so would only do so after dirrect attacks failed and Germany does not do so for long periods) desperation to avoid Russian separate peace. Whether britian joins against France at this point is also unlikely (although not impossible) as the Franco-russian side is clealry at the disadvantage and the british would be unlikely to intervene on the side of the dominant forces, they are unlikely to side against the central powers either, especially if the germans use them as neutral mediators or spectators in their peace offerings to Russia (which OTL were all mild even at the begining of 1917 and so would likely stay mild) and thus would not see Germany as 2nd napoleon but as 2nd Franco-prussian war, combined with germany not starting the western front. The us and uk would lilely stay neutral the whole war and the central powers would likely win in the end. Although probably closer to the orginal mild peace deals the germans planned (as the germans are not pushed to starvation by blockades). The Russians probably agree to mild peace after the french Belgium gambit fails, and the french then end the war with their own negotiation shortly afterwoulds (probably after the germans have their own offensive in the west)
@gamingwitharcher8863
@gamingwitharcher8863 10 ай бұрын
what if instead of the ussr, the russian empire fought ww2. just a thought!
@alexc.3519
@alexc.3519 10 ай бұрын
I need to pee
@insectempress7479
@insectempress7479 10 ай бұрын
Tmi
@JirMirza
@JirMirza 10 ай бұрын
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