Handsaw Re-Toothing guide. Hand saw sharpening.

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3 жыл бұрын

This is my "handsaw Re-toothing guide" and is used with a hacksaw to accurately cut notches into a saw plate, these notches can then be used to locate a saw file to begin shaping the teeth. I’m aware this isn't a new idea but does have some benefits over cutting the teeth with a file alone.
For someone like me who only re-tooths saws occasionally it's made the process much easier with consistent results. I have used it on many saws now and they have all come out great.
It’s mainly intended for smaller handsaws in the 24 to 12 tpi range, though it could possibly be used for small panel/rip saws as well.
Thanks for watching.

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@waltervancleave6495 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to have one. Very good idea. I'm a retired tool maker of 47 years. My passion for cabinet making paralleled my life long vocation of being a tool maker. You have a very marketable product there. Buttafulley made and works very quickly. I like to sharpen my on saws and modify them to my liking. This tool would make that process much easier. Great job my friend! Best regards from Ohio.

@thewoodmandan842 2 жыл бұрын

What a wonderful comment to read. Thank you Walter I really do appreciate it.

@kaaona123 2 жыл бұрын

@@thewoodmandan842 Hi Dan, do you sell this on etsy or something?

@thewoodmandan842 2 жыл бұрын

@@kaaona123 Unfortunately none for sale at the moment, I'm hoping to complete a batch in the future.

@thewoodmandan842 Жыл бұрын

@@staceylewisdesigns Thank you Stacey, I'll let you know 👍

@Twinhit 11 ай бұрын

Count me in, too. Very nice.

@ewaldstoop2505 4 ай бұрын

Beautiful tool with a practical use. Thank you for a very informative video.

@tonicarre4842 2 ай бұрын

Dear Dan, My Dear late Father was a cabinet maker and joiner and he would of loved to have seen your re- toothing saw guide. I am 75 years old now and learnt my trade as a monumental stonemason and I also learnt a lot from my Father regarding his trade. I like to watch Paul Sellers videos on joinery and furniture making I have used Pauls method on re-cutting saw teeth which is very good but with your brilliant re-toothing guide it makes tackling the job twist as quick. I take my hat off to you for such a brilliant well thought out design. Well done. Do you make your tool design for the general public and if so how much does it cost? I have subscribed to your blog and look forward to viewing more of your articles. I live in Jersey, Channel Islands, where do you come from? Best wishes to you from me.

@michael.knight 3 жыл бұрын

Great result, impressive how you can make something that looks great, but also works very well in practice.

@thewoodmandan842 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment Michael

@ChetSpier 2 жыл бұрын

You continue to impress me. Wonderful jig and presentation.

@thewoodmandan842 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Chester, very much appreciate your comment

@ChetSpier 2 жыл бұрын

I so thoroughly enjoy this video that i have watched it several times. Your genius is showing! 🙏🏼

@thewoodmandan842 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment Chester, I am humbled by your words. 🙏🏼

@pikodesigning 3 жыл бұрын

Genius idea! This is what I need! Really appreciate you sharing!

@thewoodmandan842 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Piko glad you like it!

@rogersbros 2 жыл бұрын

Great work, the jig is a stroke of genius. Well done. 🤘

@thewoodmandan842 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment 👍

@SuperCruelworld Жыл бұрын

Just came across your site. Fantastic is all I can say. Stayed up to late last night watching many of your vids. Your skill and way of thinking through a project has had a profound effect on my way of imagining my own world. Thanks

@thewoodmandan842 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Kitt, I'm so pleased you're enjoying my videos, more to come soon. 👍

@skeetorkiftwon Жыл бұрын

@@thewoodmandan842 The braces at the end of your saw is reminding me of differential equations.

@seanlennon5044 3 жыл бұрын

Really nice idea and great tutorial. It's good that you've included extra tips like modifying the saw set to cope with finer teeth and how to correct a wavering saw with a stone. Keep this up, you make good videos.

@thewoodmandan842 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sean I appreciate the comment.

@gentlemandude1 3 жыл бұрын

Another great video. Your channel is very underrated. Thank you!

@thewoodmandan842 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment, I appreciate the support.

@georgesylvestre886 11 ай бұрын

Wow, that is a great idea for different TPI configuration. That beautiful brass tool guide shows your excellent workmanship and your video was well explained. George in Ontario Canada.

@thewoodmandan842 5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment

@theboathaaa7654 2 жыл бұрын

Very very interesting, informative, relaxing video to watch. You are a skilled maker with a calm presentation and edit your content well to keep us engaged. I am about to watch your other videos and I look forward to seeing what else you put out! I am happy to have gotten in early on this channel before it takes off! With your tips, maybe I can even resurrect a cheap old saw after the butcher job I did when I last tried to sharpen it lol

@thewoodmandan842 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words.

@georgenewlands9760 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice jig Dan. Impressive metalworking skills.

@thewoodmandan842 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the praise George :)

@suzz1776 Жыл бұрын

That is beautiful. It looks like it came out of a 18/19th century watchmakers shop. I collect antique watchmaking tools and it would fit in with them perfectly. Georgeous!!!!

@thewoodmandan842 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment 🙏

@brocbradley2313 10 ай бұрын

Magnificent jig. I followed your build on a blog. Great job using basic tools. Very impressive. I'd buy one, for sure.

@thewoodmandan842 5 ай бұрын

That's great to hear, thank you so much

@bigoldgrizzly 12 күн бұрын

A lovely bit of workmanship and a pleasure to behold.....sadly in the real world, don't be surprised to see cheap copies coming soon from china

@stepheno1870 3 жыл бұрын

Great video & you teach well, it’s not rocket science, just patience, a good jig and good files.

@thewoodmandan842 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen, like you say quality files are a must for saw sharpening, that and a bit of patience :)

@alexchiperi 3 жыл бұрын

Great jig, will make when starting on my first saw, absolutely! Love your work as a toolmaker, also your woodworking is really nice, as seen on the boxes. Will continue to follow your thread in UKW forum! Thanks a lot

@thewoodmandan842 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Alex

@adamklump9949 3 жыл бұрын

What is the website for the forum?

@ErosNicolau 2 жыл бұрын

Silly me, thinking this jig was a jewel from a gone by era... Very nice work, very informative, intuitive and useful! Also, seeing this video: subscribed!

@thewoodmandan842 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment, really appreciate it

@gdpjm 3 жыл бұрын

I have sharpening a few saws, it’s not easy to get nice evenly spaced teeth. Your device is brilliant.

@thewoodmandan842 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Berl, glad you like the guide.

@gdpjm 3 жыл бұрын

I am making a guide like yours. I’m making mine out of oak. It won’t look anyways near as nice as yours. Yours is jewelry quality.

@armandhammer9617 2 жыл бұрын

I'm an old carpenter and I had a chance to buy an old saw set and sharpener when I was young. I kick myself quite often for passing on that buy. Great job by the way. 👍

@thewoodmandan842 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment 👍

@scottanderson2581 2 жыл бұрын

Dan Dan Dan You are a pleasure to watch Such a well made video, your editing and everything about it is awesome The guide, wow, beautiful in every way Your tool making is among the best I’ve seen The quality of your workmanship is 100% as good as it gets Absolutely love the guide, every small detail The springs on the adjustment, the notches in the tightening knob Even the bevel on the front plate to help locate Utterly amazing Dan

@thewoodmandan842 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your comment and praise Scott I really appreciate it along with your encouragement and support of my work.

@Rigus208 6 ай бұрын

Amazing..great tool ,as a beginner I would love to get my hands on one . Hope you have a patten .. good luck with your future projects .Ty so much for sharing.👍👍🇺🇸😇

@thewoodmandan842 5 ай бұрын

Thank you

@deemdoubleu Жыл бұрын

Nice work and lateral thinking

@thewoodmandan842 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much 👍

@tadleach 5 ай бұрын

Very ingenious and beautifully executed jig for setting the TPI. One observation, I was always taught that a file cuts in only one direction and if you pull it back over the work piece it just dulls the file. That said, on the fine a tooth it might be challenging to lift the file each time and reset it in the same tooth.

@thewoodmandan842 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment, it's much appreciated. Regarding dulling of files, in my opinion, the correct technique is to actually lightly drag the file on each stroke. Dragging makes such a marginal difference to file sharpness. Quoting AES from his excellent post regarding files. www.ukworkshop.co.uk/threads/files-and-filing.108361/ "At the end of the forward stoke, the cutting action must be disengaged from the work. In the picture below I've exaggerated this, trying to show the file lifted well clear of the job. In fact this exaggerated lifting is not necessary - it's actually not desirable, as light contact with the job should be maintained on the return stroke. You'll soon get into a slow, steady rhythm where the downwards pressure on the file is relaxed as the file comes to the end of the forward stroke and then starts drawing back to the starting position - with almost no downwards pressure applied. This "light pressure disengagement" of the file from the job is very important as it's this action which allows the chips to be cleared ready for the teeth to start the next forward stroke without being clogged up."

@devemch7851 2 жыл бұрын

Very well done. I have a brand new lie Nielsen saw and my complaint is that it binds in the kerf and wonders to one side. And here I figured it was me! Great explanstions

@thewoodmandan842 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment Dev, pleased you found it helpful.

@ianpearse4480 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic. Thank you for sharing.

@thewoodmandan842 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Ian

@user-vq3rf4ee7m 2 ай бұрын

Great idea to save your saw files. I have to wonder if your earlier simpler idea with fixed TPI might sell better. I tend to favor simple tools without extra pieces to keep up with. What you have now is a beautiful. Not sure the rosewood handle is useful. I think you have a winner either way you choose to go.

@CandidZulu 4 ай бұрын

A very high standard of craftmanship for sure, but I would like to suggest rollers, like can be seen on watch and clockmakers filing rests!

@charlesward8196 Жыл бұрын

Wish I knew about this when I re-toothed a 28-inch miter saw at 11 TPI.

@markp6062 Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Thanks for sharing. got here from Wood by Wright.

@thewoodmandan842 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark 👍

@marcr3376 Жыл бұрын

Great video and tool!! As already said, you should sell these - make a mint.

@thewoodmandan842 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Marc

@gdpjm 3 жыл бұрын

Just an update on using the tool. It does work very nice. My problem is with little hacksaw blades. I got mine at Lowe’s ( big box store ). They were awful, they didn’t cut well and the teeth were wore out mid way through the process . Also they were difficult to start a cut.They were cheap Chinese blades. I didn’t cut the saw kerf very deep, just deep enough to give my file a place to start. I’m going to see if I can find better ones.

@thewoodmandan842 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Berl, pleased to hear the guide is working well. I've found cheap hacksaw blades are just not worth the hassle. Try to buy the best blades available to you, bahco sandflex are decent as are eclipse premium if you can find them. Regarding the saw being difficult to start, try partially grinding the first inch of teeth away, this should help stop the blade from snagging, also make sure the saw plate is as low down in your saw vice as possible, this will help prevent the plate from flexing which is the main cause of the hacksaw binding. All the best Dan.

@Eveline21656 3 жыл бұрын

Good solution

@thewoodmandan842 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Eveline

@bigoldgrizzly 12 күн бұрын

Have you tried the miniature triangular diamond files, finest grade, for the last finishing strokes. I found them to give really crisp sharp points. I bought a load of these 4 or 5 inch long files a few years ago, but am struggling to find them in the finer grades at the moment

@timbarry5080 7 ай бұрын

Awesome jig

@thewoodmandan842 5 ай бұрын

thank you

@larryohara6513 Жыл бұрын

Ingenious!

@thewoodmandan842 5 ай бұрын

Thank you

@lrbrad4d 5 ай бұрын

Wow! That is a very nice jig. Beautiful in and of itself. The box is awesome work as well. That newly cut saw works great. Are you going to sell the jigs or the plans? If you plan on selling a set of drawings, please let me know. Good job.

@thewoodmandan842 5 ай бұрын

Thank you. Hopefully something's to come in the future

@theamirbarismillworks2253 Жыл бұрын

Wood by Wright sent me!

@pettere8429 Жыл бұрын

Two humble suggestions: Add a magnet to the jig to help ensure the hacksaw stays in contact (may not be an issue). Add a cam lever mechanism to your saw vise so you can dispose of the screw clamps.

@thewoodmandan842 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your suggestions, I new saw vice is on the cards 😁

@mark1squid 8 ай бұрын

Just brilliant! I really hope you've patented this. It seems from previous comments you may have sold a few of this in the past? Any plans to do so again in the future?

@thewoodmandan842 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment. This will likely stay as a one-off piece. I do have plans to release another version in the future.

@thorat_clogger 3 күн бұрын

How did you come up with the size of the shim to tpi?

@1pcfred Жыл бұрын

I've had my fair share of troubles trying to sharpen saws. The one plate I retoothed it took me a few tries and it still isn't perfect. Good enough though I suppose.

@richardbarry9007 3 ай бұрын

When are you going to retail the jig ?

@keith121261 5 ай бұрын

Very good are you going to sell them ???

@jimmurphy4083 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dan, excellent job you have made of this original idea. As i have always used old saws and have never owned a new saw , I fully appreciate the importance of this tool and the work that it produces. Will you be making these for sale ?., or maybe providing a drawing for a fee in the future. Again excellent job.

@thewoodmandan842 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jim thank you for your comment. I am currently working on another project so have no time to make more currently. It's something I've thought about and I'd certainly like to make more in the future, perhaps a small batch if there was the demand. I can keep you posted if this happens 👍 Cheers

@jimmurphy4083 2 жыл бұрын

@@thewoodmandan842 Hi Dan that would be great, and thank you for getting back to me.

@keithgarcia5271 Жыл бұрын

@@thewoodmandan842 I just discovered this and would definitely be interested if indeed you do make some for sale

@wyndhamtyley6174 Жыл бұрын

i could b wrong but i thought files only cut in forward motion. pulling them backwards actually wears out the file faster

@thewoodmandan842 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment. There are two beliefs on this, I'm in the "old wives tale" camp 😁

@kevinlove6324 Жыл бұрын

Please advise if you make and sell this saw sharping jig and what would be the cost including postage to Australia. Great product would be glad to have it in my toolbox.

@thewoodmandan842 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment. I've no plans to reproduce this at the moment, but hope to make a variant in the future.

@armencarpenter7492 3 жыл бұрын

True Craftsman are rare.

@thewoodmandan842 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the comment Armen

@purpleom9649 9 ай бұрын

Firstly, great video, but if I may make a few observations 1) A very fine saw is only really used for small cuts and as such the time taken by a very sharp saw V's a dull one is very small, in fact I only have one saw with more than 14TPI and that one is my dovetail saw and that has almost no set on at all and because a dovetail has almost no length to it it never gets dull 2) using a hacksaw with the set removed is one way but you could also try a jewellery saw with a 04 gauge blade.

@thewoodmandan842 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment and suggestions, much appreciated.

@glenngonzalez2647 3 ай бұрын

Do you sell this jig and for how much?

@gregmcgowan6794 29 күн бұрын

Do you have plans or drawings for sale.?

@TristanJCumpole Жыл бұрын

Corian! Not why I'm on this video, but hey. The best way to have made that box would have been to cut a 2mm deep, 12mm wide recess in the corners and glue in the parts as a butt joint. This is the standard method of assembling Corian (I'm a designer and fabricator) and requires a very simple operation rather than accurate corresponding mitres. Additionally, the glue squeezes within the joint into that 2mm recess, then outwards to the external seam guaranteeing even coverage. If using the correct glue for the material the seam should be invisible when polished even though it's 10mm in from the corner. Just worth considering for future boxes if that is your thing 🙂

@thewoodmandan842 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment. What you've described is the recommended method for Corian worktop construction. In my opinion for this application it's not ideal, to a trained eye the glue lines are always visible with the rebate method and the glue is never an exact colour match, plus I like a challenge 😉

@TristanJCumpole 5 ай бұрын

@@thewoodmandan842 Absolutely! Mostly what I do requires a more complex approach to internal corners for hygiene on cruise ship waiter's stations, handwash stations, etc. This often ends up with 24mm x 12mm blocks with a 10mm radius milled into a corner, a 10x2 recess into the opposite end of that, the whole thing recessed into a 24x2 trench and the vertical part fitted with a 2x2mm corner knocked out. I actually enjoy designing for these sorts of products, as it's like Lego for adults, however I dislike having to deal with the dust. Or the polishing. Cheers!

@bermankent1807 4 ай бұрын

I would be interested in purchasing one of your saw tooth jigs. Patent it and sell me one.

@enjoylife494 10 ай бұрын

Where can I buy this guide?

@thewoodmandan842 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. This was a one-off piece and currently not for sale.

@jokubasarturas6695 Ай бұрын

Dan, excellent quality of craftsmanship. Do you offer plans as a DIY build?

@makenchips 3 ай бұрын

Well done, good video! excellent review In your profile on KZfaq how does one contact you?

@JoesExpressLLC Жыл бұрын

that number on the saw set is corresponding to the angle of the set. the higher the number the smaller the angle at least that is the way mine works.

@thewoodmandan842 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the info I appreciate it 👍

@borjesvensson8661 Жыл бұрын

@@thewoodmandan842 Not really the angle. That is consistent on that type. But it desides how much of the teeth will be set and that determines in turn how wide the kerf will be. My theory is that the numbering is right for working in damp wood on construction sites as that was the most common use of saws before power tools. Thought about adding a depth stop screw but came to the conclusion that it is close enough to right to not care. Another option would be to grind the hammer at a shallower angle to better suite fine carpentry in dry wood? It will still bottom out against the anvil at the bottom and there is no need for it to hit the anvil at the top. Just stop at the same point all of the time

@chrisbigham9915 Жыл бұрын

Hi Dan. Like many of the other comments, I just came across your channel by accident. As a person that has now in excess of 20 works of art (saws) to restore, your jig would be of great assistance. Can you also pm me if you make some jigs to sell as I think your device would just take my saws to a "next level". Regards from Oz.

@thewoodmandan842 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris. I'll keep you posted