Yup, actually It took a while to decide. But I didn’t like a feeling that I have something hidden behind of many of my footages. The many many comments and thoughts that I got is more than anything. I recognized there’s many teachers to ask in the world and I don’t wanna lose these chances. Thank you for your comment and good luck freeasabird83!!

Thanks for sharing; glad you're OK. Best wishes from the UK.

@@robp9129 thanks Rob!!!!!!

Share them anonymously. Wise people learn from crash videos. Crash videos save lives. Find a way to disseminate the wisdom. Don't gatekeep crash wisdom.

@@abundantharmony You don't have to share as anon. Pilots, as overall, what we doing is very hard, so its something common to make mistakes. On mistakes all safety procedures rises. If it can help anybody to safe his life, then mission accomplished. Most people are very warm. People doing the similar thinks we do, so they understand Here you go - my mistakes Here, you can see my faults kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9FhgpeTsqjeeqM.html

H.A., I’ve learned a lot of things from many of those clips good and bad. I really hope my clips will help for the other pilots. Now it’s time that exactly what you say. Thousands of choruses of frogs on the rice field day and night. We’re welcoming you back here anytime:-)

Thanks Cameron, that’s my intention. I didn’t like the feeling that I hiding anything behind my clips. I’ll get better on each flight as long as my passion last.

@@tripledyno and it makes them all the more valuable for it. As I said i fly gyros but like lits of flyers am interested in other aviation your example makes it easier for others to do the same more power to you.

Anything that is not a 100% chill landing is considered a mistake. Here he damaged the glider and could have hurt himself easily on the obstacles. How would you not consider an expensive repair to the aircraft not a crash?

Wow, that sounds scary too Bob! And it was fun for ya! :-) A friend of mine flies on the beach with Falcon and that looks super fun. I’ll try some time! Thanks!

@@tripledyno If you ever get to Hawaii you can rent a glider and fly Makapuu. It's the best ridge soaring in the world in glassy, smooth air.

@@99bx99 I’d love to!! I gotta talk to my wife first tho! lol

Atos has flaps though?

Yes, actually it’s hard to repair cuz its panels are piled of 3D. Luckily I got another used sail for it from friend of mine. Thanks for comment Erico!

Thanks Walach! That’s my intention! I got many many words!

Yes, Now I know I went little bit too slow on final just like you say. And I missed flare timing because grabbed my attention to that terrain. I’m already back in the air and trying to focus on my landing approach more than before. You guys comments and thoughts are more than anything! Thanks for advice Jett_Heller!!

@@tripledyno Enjoy the sport - it is a wonderful experience and creates special memories. Be the best pilot you can and always be aware that mother nature will throw in surprises. Glad you are back in the air!

He had plenty of speed on the approach, except when he did an early hand transition and let it pop up, but he did pull in again after that. I think the main issue here is simply that he overshot his intended lz (which he said was the field just before the furrow) and therefore was sort of forced to delay his flare due to the terrain. The correct time to flare would have been just before the furrow, but this would have resulted in him having to run up it and most likely trip on that furrow. So I'm sure the hope was to just try and get over that terrain to the field beyond it. Personally I think the optimal solution for those last few seconds would have actually been to *not* flare at all and fly it right down to the last inch and belly land in the next field. If you roll back the clock a bit further I would say that I don't agree with hand transitions on final approach. Either do it before final, or at trim just before the flare. Several reasons for this; Firstly because it creates a momentary loss of control at the most dangerous and vulnerable moment in the flight. Secondly because it changes your drag profile, sure, sometimes that may be desirable, but in this case it likely prevented him from making the next field, better to stay aerodynamically clean if you know you are short on energy.

Hi Martin, I agree with you that I have to deal with flare. I’m already back in the air with new (old) sail. You guys tips and thoughts works pretty much and made me progress and confidence. Exxtacy! It’s hardly ever seen lately but I know it’s very similar ship as my old Atos. Mine is over 20 yrs old but it still flies like dream and I gotta get along with it! Thanks!

Thanks Martin! I’m survived and already back in the air!! I checked out your new clip btw!

Hi Martin, I see your videos to knowing the classic Atos behavior. I thought it’s simple easier to fly and land than flexy but realized it has different characteristics. I’ll be back in the air soon!! Thanks!!

Thanks Estebain, No injury I’ll be back in the air ASAP! lol

ありがとうございます。 ですね、怪我がなければまた飛べます！ まだまだです。😅

Yes, you’re right. One thing just a little different compared to WW that is down tube which is leaning backwards with higher position on Atos. The monkey ride in my old clip is one of the strategy. But I still have to deal with it. Thanks AdvvdA!!

Hey Gerry, Unfortunately the sail has damaged unfixable. New(old)sail in on the way to be replaced. But you’re right I can fly again soon! Thanks!!

​@@tripledyno a skilled sail maker can certainly fix it. Don't toss it in the trash. Just find the right person.

@@ericoschmitt Right, I traded whole sail with my friend and I think he’ll try it out. Thanks!

Indeed. I thought I need more attention to make another decision for unexpected wind activity. We learn from fail but we have to make it minimum for hang gliding because we don’t have an extra life. I’ll never forget these thoughts from you all. Thanks Tony!!

Also my assessment. The crosswind got him. That stall into the crosswind had the potential for a far worse outcome. Experienced a similar crash years ago.

Definitely. It looks like a result of left wing stalled first when I flare. Thanks Guido.

@@tripledyno that can be a deadly mistake, flaring or slow flight into crosswind with a hang or paraglider. A motorized aircraft would incline its wing towards the wind and side-slip into the roundout and final flare, but we cant do that. I guess survival rule no 1 with hang and paragliders is to never land or take off with tail or crosswind.

Hey, you guys keep talking about crosswind. Isn't there an indicator left and a windsock right of the landing field? They both look dead slack to me. The slight drift at 4:40 correlates to the wings being not level. In any case, no crosswind that would contribute to an asymmetric stall. But when you hit the pole, that of course did cost the left wing airspeed. The slack rigging are actually cables to control the spoilers on the ATOS wing. Roll axis is not gravity controlled but aerodynamic.

Hi, Well, we both gotta manage it! lol Thanks!!

Yes, I agree. Now I’m on the process of getting XC license which means I could choose better LZ for the conditions like you say. But I still have to be more concentrated on judgement of situations. Thanks Soaring Channel! I’ve been enjoying your channel!

@@tripledyno thank you Sir! I have a winch launch video about to upload today or tomorrow. I'd like to try hang gliding - but I think I'm too out of shape to not get hurt.

Right. It was nil cross wind. And yes, my hook in weight is a little above the maximum and I feel landing cs is a bit harder than bigger Atos. But I guess I can manage it in a little while! Thanks liotcik! Gimmi more info about old Atos please.

Yes, that’s correct. That’s why I put up this clip and analyzed. Thanks Michael.

Yes, I will keep it in mind! Second plan, land soft. Thanks Deepak! I see your footages a lot!!

Hi Bernie, I’ve been landing with that upright position normally because it’ll get harder to pull in with higher position. But I’ll try next time when I’m high in the air. I totally agree with you about the flaps. I usually les flaps down as the matter of fact. My hook in weight is a little over the maximum weight of this glider (Atos-CS) and I was sensitive to changing the flaps but I increased it much more on this time. There’s many many more things to learn. Thanks for the tips Bernie!!

@@tripledyno I would say, DO NOT play with the flaps on final approach. Put them on full and leave them on. Adjusting the flaps on landing approach runs the risk of accidentally letting them fully off and the glider reacting. You should adjust your glide by pulling speed. Put the flaps on full when high. Don't worry too much about the wind direction, so long as you are in the right ball park. Have one hand on an upright and the other on the base tube so you can still pull lots of speed. Plan to land in the middle of the field so you're high enough to miss obstacles at the down wind edge of the field but have plenty of field for an unexpectedly long glide. Your wind sock showed very little wind. Plan the position of your final so that small adjustments get you close to being into wind, but don't obsess about the exact wind direction. A good balanced flare stretching arms up will take care of being slightly off wind direction. Be ready to have your feet underneath you running - and run hard if your flare is inadequate.

@@PeteMP3 Thanks for detailed explanation. Yes, I do really care about the flaps especially when I’m landing. Spring time makes me nervous because of rough wind and I think I worried too much about wind direction to be honest. Thank you again Pete B!!

@@PeteMP3 I agree completely with what Pete is saying here. Final is not the time to be playing with flaps or transitioning your hands. Both cause a reduction in control at the most dangerous phase of flight.

Yeah, that sounds scary but the slack of wires are proper position for old Atos. Thanks Stefan!

nonoRaさん、 コメントありがとうございます♪ そうです、身体はなんともないのでまた飛べるんです！ 機体は現在修理中です。 nonoRaさんは最近動画をアップしていないようですが、また空の動画を楽しみにしていますよー

@@tripledyno 文化の違いですかね。何かそちらはほのぼのとクラッシュする感じですね。 最近1週間ほど前にアップしますした！おひまな時に是非。 Hang Gliding Mountain Flight#2, 3 at Lookout Mtn Flight Park - Fail Landing Approach kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ea-bf8hkrZ7coJs.html

ありがとうございます。 よりによって失敗動画をシェアするとは😅 まあ、競輪の落車に比べれば軽いものでした😆 これからも競輪ジャーニー、見てやってください😊

Indeed! Sharpen my senses. Thanks Bill!

Thanks for comment!

Yes, I totally agree. Unconsciously I started pushing. My bad habit. Thanks for comment Enzo 6!

Thanks for comment!

Thanks Jim!

Thanks Green! Actually this is rigid hang glider which is called Atos. And it has flaps and spoileron (ailerons). My one is kind of old but newer is super high performance hang glider ever. You can google it:-)

@@tripledyno Thanks!

Thanks for comment loganr. I think you are right. I don’t need to flare if the speed is slow enough and I can control its speed by angle or flaps. But it is a bit hard to slow down depends on the wind especially when the wind is nil or sideways. I’ve tried adjusting the flap angle according to the wind speed but basically end up with stall even it’s not slow enough. That is why I flare right before stall and drop. But I think I might try it again like you said more control by flaps. Thanks loganr again that is eye opener.

@@tripledyno Yea, good luck. When I transitioned from flex wing I was pretty concerned because I saw all these terrible landing videos and *TONS* of belly landing videos. I probably shouldn't have even done my first launch because I had zero wind and high altitude, but I was determined (dumb?). Anyway when I got to the LZ I was concerned about overshooting so I just wrenched on the flaps *HARD*. I even put my knees on the control bar so I could pull harder. I was honestly pretty terrified about my projected landing speeds from the videos I'd seen, and knowing I was at higher altitude (6,300') so I just held off as long as I could. By the time I was done pulling down on the control bar (I never pushed up) I was slow enough that when I touched down I just took a step and the wing settled on my hands. I guess you could say I "flare" when my foot touches down, I'm not entirely sure how else to describe that action: stepping down onto the landing zone and pushing up on the control bar. I've had bad landings in the ATOS, every single damned one was because I forgot to pull the flaps for landing. If you're worried about stalling high, and you have the opportunity: I'd suggest just wrenching on the flaps pull the control bar for as steep a dive as you can, and just hold a bloody long round out just off the ground. I would say almost my entire landing is in about the body position you have at 4:18 of this video "gaining speed", though I probably have my hands a little higher and pull harder, it is hard to say for sure from the video. Your flight should end when you are no longer pulling down on the bar, there is enough drag that you can keep upright with a foot solidly in front of you.

@@tripledyno Also, it looks like your control cables may be a bit lose. I'm watching the video and you have a lot more slack than I remember. I know there is *SOME* to keep the spoilerons from deploying too much and killing your glide, but you may be having control issues with them being lose.

@@tripledyno Apparently I don't have any of my landing videos....But I found one that shows just how effective those flaps can be. kzfaq.infokwGJZ3hDRhk My wife reminded me that I did a tail strike similar to the video before I decided I don't need to try to flare.

@@tripledyno kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ibaDgNSer7Sypac.html this is another good representation of how effective the flaps are.

My instructor told me that same thing also. Longer final rather than facing to the wind especially for the Atos which has longer span and it slips sideways. Approaching is that much important. Thanks HangmanMo!

I totally disagree with both of you. With all those open fields there is no excuse to not landing directly into the wind. It’s always the best option if your legs are the landing gear. He should have planed an LZ with a long clear final directly into the wind.

@@scenicbearviewing I'm pretty sure that this is their normal designated lz. I see it from other pilots videos as well. So when the wind is coming from the side like that they kind of cut to the left as much as they can then turn in to the right. It's small and certainly not ideal with all those furrows bordering it. I can sympathize, at my home location we have huge flat wide open fields as far as you can see, yet we are told to land on a gravel road with huge glider eating ditches on both sides. Why? because there are only so many good towable roads and the farmers don't want you to land on their property.... By and large I just take one tow and leave for XC so I don't have to worry about it.

@@entelin The pilot said they get a fine of $30 if they land somewhere else. I say Screw the fine, I going to land somewhere safe.

@@scenicbearviewing And then enough locals get pissed off that you wind up losing the site entirely. I'm not disagreeing with you in principal though. That's why I generally go XC and land somewhere totally different. Almost nobody cares if you land in their field the first time, it's just a novelty.

Right, I should’ve gone for straight. I have to watch wind much more carefully. Thanks Jerry!

Hi yellowboat8773, It was south wind which is 90 degree cross wind for this LZ basically. And I checked the wind sock many times before deciding approach line. Then I decided to go from west to east approach. But the wind sock showed it was nil when I came in to the final. But I still felt cross wind and I went little more left to make better line for cross wind and side slipped more than I thought. Yes we of course land into the wind. But this LZ is narrow rectangle and we sometimes have to land in cross wind. We have to control glider with weight shifting and is not quick as surface control. And also I can’t rule out the affect of ground effect or gradient. My point to look back is there’s better options or choices to make before making an approach. Thanks for comment.

It’s funny I’m always drawn to where I don’t wanna go. lol Thanks Mike!

Yes, the approach wasn’t good enough. Actually the LZ is narrow rectangle E-W and was south wind. Make a low turn to avoiding power line is bad idea as you say. I didn’t wanna land on out of LZ cuz you have to pay for penalty charge. But Now I know that is excuse. I should’ve land out rather than crash. I’ve never thought about hating carry glider because it’s nothing to me but I’ll take your words and I’ll be focused. Thanks a lot Scenic Bear!!

@@tripledyno I have never heard of a penalty charge for landing out. In the US you could just say with the wind direction it was an emergency LZ. What country are you flying in?

Japan. Our activity (hg pg) is shrinking in the world even in my country. We have to get along with farmers and community. Only $15 for out land and you can still choose emergency landing. My fault like you said.

@@tripledyno Wow, things have changed. Never aware of out land charges but I suppose the question you should have to ask yourself is: Is $15 worth the cost rather than a potentially bad landing that can damage body and glider. As said in my initial comment - glad you are ok and walked away with nothing but hurt pride and wallet.

شكرًا لك. "سأستمر في الاستمتاع بها بأمان!"

Yeah right, I actually have flown 4yrs after 3 decades of break. I’m earning EXP right now;-) Thanks 12345fowler!!!

Hey Takeo, Thanks for comment. You’re totally right. I’ve tried to approaching for cross wind on RW. It works better if it was flexy but rigid.

@@tripledynoNever plan for a xwind landing when your body is the landing gear, especially with all those open fields.

@@scenicbearviewing disagree, crosswind landings can be done perfectly safely and consistently but the training has to be there.

Hi Glenn, The slack is needed for neutral position. This is an old ship and it has front wires and control wires separated. Current ATOS has combined wires that works both.

Actually this is proper landing spot for this area. We usually don’t land on the top of the hill where we taking off. Thanks.

@@tripledyno Thanks for your comment!

Indeed. I actually have back in the air for sure! Thanks!

Bummer… Spring time is pretty rough in Japan as well. I thought it wasn’t too bad and I was like careless maybe. But we’ll back to sky anyway. lol Hope you heal quickly cuz you were born to fly!!

@@tripledynohah yep Thanks! Hopefully this shoulder heals soon, and I can get back into the air.. Looking forward to summer flying. Cheers

Thanks for comment. Actually that wire is on right place and right slack. That’s my skill issue.

The side wires are control cables, not guy wires. If they are taught they will give an input.

Exactly!! Thanks!

Yes, some other guys told me that too. I have to push up not forward. Thanks Alex!

That’s good one! Thanks Pablo!!

Any landing you can walk away from is a good one. Right? Got it! Thanks Jody!

Hi BlockCylinder, That’s a hawk diving after thermaling! :-) He(she) always tell me where’s the lift.

Yeah, it might works. Just slammed on the ground and didn’t even think about it. lol

Absolutely! I always thinking about it. Thanks Tom!

Yeah, I agree that my hands are too low. no one noticed that my hang strap is too long. I’ll check it out again. Thanks Rad Man!!

lmao thanks lonesome40353!

I haven’t thought about it. You mean when you’re in neutral position right? I’ll check it out again. Thanks Shiraz!!

@@tripledyno Yes I prefer to be able the take my hands off the base bar in stable conditions and pretty much max out my glide ratio, just looked like you needed a fair bit of input to fly that bird that’s all. I pretty much like the bar slightly or in line with my sternum. But if your comfortable with your positioning you do what works for you.

​@@shiraz1736 - sounds like you may not be familiar with flying an Atos? The bar position looks about right to me - the control frame is raked much further forward on an Atos than on a flex-wing, and light-wind landings need hand-position at or above the mid-point of the upright (down-tube).

@@alanhughes51 No I’ve never had the pleasure, thanks for the info, looks slightly uncomfortable, mind you I have arms like a hobbit.

Hi Paul, comment’s welcome! It’s 90 degree cross wind and tried to get better approach but didn’t work. Side slipped a bit and grabbed attention to terrain obstacles. Well, I’ll never make same mistake. Thanks!!

A couple of thoughts I've gathered over the years,that might help,,,your only as good as your last landing,, it's much better to do a long walk out,than a ,"Hero,s" landing,next to power lines,etc,you name it,,any high risk approach/landing,, playing the soft option may not look cool,but we all make errors in judgement,and in aviation it can go wrong very quickly,,,still plenty of fun and excitement to be had,,(yesterday I was on final,,at the beach,,do I dribble along a 5 metre tree line,, with water below? or go for the beach and know I'll land well,,,I went for the beach,,, nothing but happy memories,,take care

Hi deltaguru, This is an old ship like over 20yrs old and it has front wires besides control wires. And it has a slack at the neutral position. Yup, I can not blame it on the glider. lol Thanks!

@@tripledyno No, some slack. Enter a powerful thermal and those wires suddenly become like side-wire of like a flexwing which they are not designed for.

@@sharonbaker5110 Newer Atos has no front wires. Instead it has taut side wires that is also work as a front wires and control wires. But mine has front wires and slack side wires are independent control wires not side wires. This slack is proper position and always serviced by dealer. It’ll raise up control surface undisirable if wires are tighter or glide too fast like 80m/h Are we clear? Thanks sharon.

Because, landing zone is kind of rectangle shape which is N-S way and it was East wind. I should’ve gone for North on the runway even if it was cross wind. Thanks BigDuke!!