Dave is self-taught - he doesn't know much formal theory, but I'm sure he understands a good amount of it in his own way.

Kiko actually had a video recently where he addressed whether Dave knows music theory. He basically said Dave uses music theory but he would tell you he doesn't know he's using it.

you can listen to Marty soloing over chromatics chords proggressions on Five Magics too (solo #5). Man, that part is hard because not only has chromatism, but it changes to a 5/8 time signature.

7:34 even Dimebag Darrell (at the background) was watching the fckn awesome songwriting of Hangar 18 hahaha

The best lineup(Dave, David, Marty, Nick) that Megadeth ever had!

I have a weird theory that everyone kinda subliminally picks up things by feel and sound anyway... I used to write for the longest time without delving into theory and then when I decided to knuckle down and learn theory I went back on some old songs and it was interesting to see that I was already using different modes and certain chords that I hadn't actually knowingly learned. It's amazing the things your mind and ear can pick up on without your knowledge

The “Really Dave? That’s like the oldest trick in the book” line has me dying 😂. Perfect delivery.

I remember this song being similar to call of ktulu by metallica. Same key , progression . Both songs were written by Mustaine.

Other bands: let's start the show with an easy song, so we can adjust to the audience and get warm before we go for it. Megadeth: let's start with "Hangar 18"...

I think it was both Dave having his own interpretation of theory and Marty’s knowledge of theory (soloing of chord changes at least) that made this era of Megadeth so musical.

There is a recent vid going around now of Dave giving some fans a Symphony of Destruction lesson, and he uses the music theory jargon when explaining. Guy definitely knows the theory behind what he writes.

I've loved Dave since I was a young teen and I am still blown away at his talent. So many of his songs are literally perfect. Not to be cliche, but he truly is a musical genius. Especially, not knowing anything formal.

The best Megadeth line-up EVER!!! Of course Dave knows theory and no one can deny that.

Hanger 18 and Lucretia are my favorite songs on the album

Deeper analysis here for music snobs. The same chromatic theme of the intro repeats during the first whole part of the song as well: -On the verses, Dave plays A to D, Bb to D, B to D (while Marty harmonizes D to F), and C to D (Marty doing E to G) for the C/D chord, and a variation of the same riff for the chorus. So Marty is always giving the root and the third while Dave is giving the chromatic theme and the root. On Marty's solo, Dave plays the same chords again but as an arpeggio, with the open D between two octaves of the chromatic line. And the twist is, Marty harmonizes by playing F, G, F and E over the chord progression of the intro, so Dmb6 turns to Gm (Bb-D-G) and C/D turns to Cadd2 (or C9). -For the next part, they use C# as a transition chord and then go to a riff in Dm, with Eb. Still in Dm, just added the flat 2nd so it has a different feel to it before going to a different key. The next riff is the same intervals (root, 8ve and 3rd, then a flat 2nd chord) but in F#m (F#m and G). Then the last riff is e, f#, g, a and the G chord. The last two riffs are in F# phrygian... basically a D major scale but starting from the 3rd as the root. So this is just a simplification but the whole song is in Dm and D (F# phr), using basically just four chords (Dm, C, Gm and F#m) for a whole prog thrash song and making it sound so complex. So Dave probably didn't think of it all this way, he just based some riffs on the "Ktulu" chords and took it from there with what sounded good, but even if he's not conscious about it, this song shows that he does know a lot of theory, he uses it a lot on other songs as well.

I got to hear Hangar 18 live on Sept 29th. Aswell as his other goodies. It sounds so badass live without a doubt

imo, Music theory at its core is simply knowing the sounds and knowing how to get them, whether or not you use the same labels and names as everyone else is secondary. Love these videos!

I love your music theory reviews over these great songs. I hope to see more in the future

Dear Master Sreddington. What do you think about "Looking Down The Cross" riff? Could you make a video about it? It is strange that this song is known not so much... And also it is from the debute Megadeth album that really strange that they could write such song so early. And maybe "My Last Words" as well.

I requested you break down Hanger 18 after you did Tornado of Souls. Thank you very much Shred for doing this! \m/

Shred, I love your videos!!! Keep on doing the Megadeth stuff. I love it to death...

Oh fuck it. I'm subscribing. KZfaq kept suggesting your stuff tonight, and all of it has been amazing. I'm a drummer, but I absolutely love your breakdown of theory in your videos. Stay awesome, dude.

These guys freaking rock man!! This song has always been well known for its insane solos, but Ellefsons play always stood out to me in this song. U mentioned it early on in the video I believe. Anyways, another good video man I always appreciate watching u break things down!!

Thank you for the amazing video. I remember being blown away with hangar 18 when I heard the song when the album came out. Thanks for a nice breakdown of how music theory actually works in that complex and evil sounding song. 😈

I just discovered your channel. I'm a 46-year-old bass player fan of metal and your commentary makes me laugh so hard I love it!

Music theory notes: In D minor (saddest of all keys) Pedal tone (the repeating of the root note) Chord progression: Dm-Dmb6-Dm6-C/D Inversion happens Soloing over chromatic chord progressions Exotic phrygian dominant solo Back & forth between D & F#

From what I've read, Mustaine knows theory on an instinctual level but doesn't really use any of the terminology, according to Kiko. Also Mustaine has said before that the Hangar 18 intro was him basically copying the Beatles.

7:42 my favorite part of the song

huge thanks for what you do Shred. nice to have some guidance as a 8 month into guitar playing guy. have both courses. keep the evil content up muhahahaha

Hey Shred love your content brother! Can you do a 10 best screaming heavy metal voices of all time! My favorite of all time is Bruce Dickinson in the intro of Number of the beast! Look forward to your picks!

I know everyone bashes Dave's vocals but he's actually gotten much better as this show demonstrates.

I just saw MegaDeth preform live. It was my first metal concert and they opened the show with Hanger 18. From the moment I heard the opening riff it gave me chills. Would have loved to see them in their prime doing this song!

It's so cool that Dave's using (what looks to be) a Jackson Rhoads. (Randy will always be my favorite)

What’s up Shred? I’m from Ireland, assuming from the T-shirt you’re a Guinness fan, you need to try it in Dublin!

Need more metal analysis by the Almighty Shred. May i suggest "Hot on your heels" by Steeler!!!! Keep em comin Shred

7:46 that burp sounded like part of the song lol

Fucking love the bass you can even hear my love through all that trebble

The music theory is in our brain, it seems like the taste of melody can be so close to real music theory... Marty still the best japanese guitarist btw! If u ask about this album, he goes silent and then starts to play pentatonics. Poor guy doesnt remember rust in peace times anymore😥

1:34 ok, now I'd like an Ancient Aliens episode with Nick as an expert XD

One of my favorites to play on guitar

What a great fucking lineup this was, one of the best bands ever

I like how you censored your mouth but not the reverbed “HOLY SHIT” haha

More than theory, is pure talent and instinct that has been sharpened by years and years of playing.

In the end of your segment set it all. ! 🗿🎵

2:29 wish he also said "Megadave" for Ellefson lmao

In my opinion, just because a person makes a song that has a lot of theory doesn’t mean the person knows theory, play what sounds nice in the song

you should have more viewers, you are a fucking genius, thanks for all

Sometimes I listen to Killing is my business album and he switches riffs and modulates like 3 or 4 times and odd time signatures and really makes me wonder what he knows. I think he probably doesn't know much but understands it in his own way.

Saw these guys at Roseland Ballroom in NYC. Mosh pit was insane. Drank a lot of beer that night. When they started playing this the crowd went extra nuts. I left that night fucking injured. Miss concerts. On to the topic. Dave knows what sounds right intuitively and has the technical ability to play what he hears in his head. That's a spark, a talent, that separates a good guitarist from great.

I'd love to see you do a video on Vito Bratta from White Lion

Shred you're like The Rock. You speak in catchphrases. Dave does know music theory. He's also a huge Vivaldi fan.

I believe in aliens after seeing Marty Friedman's picking technique in HD.

I think Dave is much like me in a way that I would be considered self taught but over the years have understood a basic understanding of how music theory works. At least enough to create music. Wether or not its decent is up to you lol

Top song! I expected you to pay attention to it before, but it's never too late ...

I didn't go to a tech school to learn how to be a mechanic but I became one!

Whole album sounded so exotic when I first heard it!! MegaMenza !

Hey Shred, for the sake of 666 flats in the key, can you make out the Pantera song - Floods? This is a wonderful masterpiece.

The (Call of) Ktulu chords 🤘

Sounds like James Bond when you break the chord progression up. 7:45 cracked me up

Shred. I would like to see an analysis from… Aphelion Void by Dødheimsgard. That would be a true evil thing to do. 😈 also keep up the good work. 👍

At last, sooner or later, hangar 18 would end up in this channel.

One of the few parts the tab book got right is the intro!! Better make sure your guitar is in good tune!!

this is my favorite song

Similar to Call of Cthulhu, which ironically apparently Dave wrote some parts to as well

"I can't even see Dave's face, are you in there Dave?" 🤣

Marty's Dragon Mistress does a very similar thing at the beginning

The opening 4 chords progression is also a part of Metallicas Call of ktulu. Dave probably had rights to rip it off.

Huh, RS2014 transcribes those shifting intro chords(not the arpeggios) as 3-string chords, while you transcribe them with the D3 note. I’ll try playing the D3 note next time.

you need to collab with Doug Helvering so we can have a side by side comparison between the opinions of an experienced metalhead and a newcomer to the genre, and have both explain the theory behind the music and whether it works or not.

Isn't the intro to this song the same chords as the intro to call of chtulu by Metallica?

What a performance

Let's be honest there is no Thrash metal band in the world that could beat Megadeth when it come to album cover art

Parts of Call of Ktulu have the same chords as the intro of Hangar 18.

Five magics!!!!!

Master Shred, I just got a awesome Ideia for you! Analises on some great songs of some great guitarists. A series to analise the legends, their tricks and technique and also show again your great knowledge to sell your awesome course! You could do videos like "Michael Romeo on The Odissey". Kiko Loureiro in "E-Dependent Mind" or Y.J Malmsteen in "Black Star". Would be awesome. Just as you did in this video showing that Dave is the GOAT. Muahahahaha

Watching Marty cross over to Megadave was beautiful to watch, for a Cacophony fan.

I'm a sucker for good music with good back stories.

You should try Good Mourning / Black Friday, that song is awesome

Yeah I get people telling me what to do in music all the time. Like I shouldn't make a theme or personality for my music. I get a lot of my writing from film composers and old time composers. But that's metal. Especially symphonic metal. They don't realize it's the same sound but on a different instrument. Just because I structure music like a film composer, doesn't mean I don't feel the music and imagine what is going to happen next. We're doing the same things here.

Satriani being an alien would fully explain how he can do such technical shit with a guitar. Dude is an absolute madman especially when I saw him live in Eugene. I’m not even a super fan or anything of his work but his skills floor me

Hi shred

Ellefson bass thumps hard on this track

btw i think personally the intro of hanger 18 was made it by marty, sounds like beg for mercy of hawaii, at least the notes and the way to play it =D

I love it, not one "smart" phone in the crowd. Back when people were into the show, and not just there to record it.

i agree he knows music theory on his terms, Dave's music theory his time with Marty taught him a lot.

Still watching -- but that chord progression (4:30 or something) is literally The Call of Ktulu (Metallica) progression 😀And I hear there Anthrax as well 🙂

you have value

Word.

2:29 Ellefson is also Dave

he is the music theory, i mean he has the music theory by "default" you know. its like being a good basketball player, you know they feel the game they just know what to do in a game but they are not tactical professionals or game managers they just got it in them. its what talent means and i think thats what makes their work great because those people doesnt use "learned, ready schemes", they do their things by naturally. you know you cant teach people how to think you can only give them the thoughts. they have the ability to "think" and produce naturally.

another good mourning black friday reaction request here

You can see Dimebag Darrell standing on the side at 07.35

There’s a red line between this song and Dave being on Alex Jones lol.

I go to Longwood University, our music program is very good, but that’s not my major unfortunately.

Rust in Peace set the bar and it still has not been broken. I can still listen to that record and get chills every time. I used to joke that getting older meant going back and listening to the black album and rust in peace and realizing that rust in peace is a timeless masterpiece and the black album doesn't come close.

Marty destroyed all metal soloists when this album came out. PERIOD. Not jus' sayin', definitely SAYING. There was no metal solo guitarist that played in such power/phrasing, anywhere, any how, any place.

Naturally through practice and experience, you learn music theory. Music theory is just notated experiences and science of everything musically/sonically and how/what they work in/with. Most proficient musicians will find theory techniques naturally.

Shred, keep in mind the fact that Dave is no dummy, and, he got Marty Fuckin Friedman, to join Megadeth I don't know if Dave knows or knew theory back then, but I would bet big dollars Marty knows everything relevant about music theory. In fact, I would feel fine assuming Chris Poland, a jazz guitarist, is quite familiar with theory, as well as Al Pitrelli, who used to play for Trans Siberian Orchestra, are both very competent with music theory. I have no idea how much Jeff Young ever contributed to song writing, but just about everyone who played lead guitar for Megadeth, was pretty advanced in their technical musical knowledge, Kiko, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt...

I got super baked the other week and was listening to this song and MF’s leads were like an alien language talking to me.

"Selective amnesia's the story Believed, foretold, but who would suspect?"