Hannah Gutierrez's Lawyer Details Missing Evidence in New Motion to Dismiss

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Hannah Gutierrez's Lawyer Details Missing Evidence in New Motion to Dismiss

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@COURTTV Ай бұрын

#CourtTV Catch up on NM v. #HannahGutierrez here: www.courttv.com/tag/hannah-gutierrez-reed/?

@loadedhot1034 Ай бұрын

Seth Kenny should have been charged also.

@reneearnett8761 Ай бұрын

Agreed

@JillianSiobhanMal Ай бұрын

Yup agree

@timmartin6410 Ай бұрын

For what?

@truecrimejesus Ай бұрын

@@timmartin6410 I don't know what the charge would be, but for allowing live rounds (that looked identical to the dummy rounds) to enter the stream of commerce. I would think the ATF would be interested in testing these new rounds or the ones Seth Kenny admitted to procuring 2 years earlier.

@truecrimejesus Ай бұрын

Also for lying on the stand about the primers. And, possibly the concealment and destruction of evidence in collusion with Sarah Zachary.

@herecomesdrama Ай бұрын

Seth Kenney is a weasel. Mr. Pass the buck. There is so much ego in both cases.

@brrk7710 Ай бұрын

This is all Seth Kenny - so the Sammie from green can had star line but somehow sample from same bucket he gave to LE didn’t? This after he sat with LE telling them all his theories ? They were played -

@figgettit Ай бұрын

he more than passed the buck, he manipulated everyone involved.

@herecomesdrama Ай бұрын

@@figgettit I agree with all the things!

@truecrimejesus Ай бұрын

@@herecomesdrama ⁠ It was a Starline Brass round that killed Halyna. Starline Brass doesn’t make live rounds. This means that someone, either Seth Kenny or Joe Swanson, made the Starline dummies into Starline live rounds for the “cowboy camp”. Those live rounds then entered the stream of commerce. This would mean Federal Charges for those two. Seth Kenny also got caught lying on the stand. He said that Joe Swanson only used silver primers on the stand, but we saw a text to the lead detective which states Joe Swanson uses brass and silver primers. This affects Hannah’s trial because it was never known before that the dummy rounds looked identical to the live rounds and as far as Hannah knew, the company that made the dummy rounds didn’t make live rounds. She is still somewhat culpable, but this new information makes her much less culpable and makes Joe Swanson far more culpable.

@kathyweagley1273 Ай бұрын

It is outrageous how the prosecution handled herself

@reneearnett8761 Ай бұрын

Yes! It was sooo hard to even listen to her, scream out her opinion on the objections

@pete69696 Ай бұрын

I never liked her in Hannah's case

@DSmith4835 Ай бұрын

There is an epidemic of prosecutors just like her lacking a moral ethical compass … everyone seen it in real time , ‘go forward with case’ in response to Mrs Johnson .. she had to resign from the case over Moreissey’s obsessive toxic personality …

@DSmith4835 Ай бұрын

@@pete69696she got away with it in the prior case surprisingly … she musta felt even more comfortable crossing lines .. actually her behavior prior trial is why judge had it where all objections were to go to her bench atypical style trials ..

@carrollsanders9376 Ай бұрын

@@DSmith4835The fact the Sheriff's office was told they could be dealing with and Obstructed or stuck trigger, and they chose to destroy the gun, and hide the Report was Courpt.

@TinyGrandma Ай бұрын

Prosecutor was completely unhinged.

@carrollsanders9376 Ай бұрын

They were told in 2021 they could have been dealing with a stuck or Obstructed trigger, and they buried the reports that pointed to that possibility.

@figgettit Ай бұрын

i dont know what you're talking about, she clearly appreciates Baldwin's work on SNL. what more do you want?

@darwinawardcommittee Ай бұрын

@@figgettit I detect a tiny bit of sarcasm 😊

@msbrown8344 Ай бұрын

@@figgettit , Hullerious! I have to say...I did love him on that!

@kateashby3066 Ай бұрын

@@figgettitdude she was so ready for that question and her answers weren’t even exactly selling it 😂. I’m not one for conspiracies but it really does seem like she had her eyes on AB. Hannah only went down because she kinda had to, being the armorer n’ all. So many ppl should have been charged but she gave them deals to rat out Baldwin. I can’t stand that guy but this trial was so corrupt

@alikat1053 Ай бұрын

I did not care for Hanna from day one! But! If the Prosecutor with held evidence she walks!!

@redondobeach7514 Ай бұрын

I think Seth Kenny should be in jail

@TamTranTriZzle Ай бұрын

The fact that Seth Kenny is lying about when he drove back from Texas, and that he cannot remember, speaks volumes that he is guilty of something. Anyone who takes a trip out of their home state only twice in the last 2 years can easily recall when, or approximately when, they did so. At the very minimum, your Google data, Maps etc., or any gps app on your phone will easily show you that data. It is such an insignificant "lie" that he can't remember that timeframe, makes you wonder why he would lie about it in the first place. The more I learn about Seth kenny's role in this whole thing, the more he looks evry guilty as the one who got the live rounds on set.

@msbrown8344 Ай бұрын

But he could remember times and dates of all the other peoples involved!

@xloveviex Ай бұрын

The prosecution kept banging on about one of the reasons for not recovering them extra bullets was because they were still all the way in Albuquerque, so with the prosecution protecting him in all of this he had to protect them back by saying he can’t remember when he brought them back. If it was in fact sooner rather than later he brought them back and he said so it would go against the prosecutions excuse of them being far away etc and if he says it was later he leaves himself open to be called a liar if any possible evidence comes out in time to contradict it

@awesomebeautiful8782 Ай бұрын

He only made two trips during the timing question! Ridiculous that he can't remember which

@darwinawardcommittee Ай бұрын

It was obvious from Morrissey’s demeanor and conduct throughout the pre trial hearings and the trial that she was not interested in the truth. Her constant gamesmanship and “too cute by half” showed her for what she was.

@Char_ley Ай бұрын

Unbelievable, Morrissey and LE is disgusting…

@MOTORVESSELFREEDOM Ай бұрын

You had to learn how to lawyer from Baldwin team….

@crowmack Ай бұрын

Unless the prosecution hid the evidence. Also Hannah didn't have Baldwin's money. He had a team of 5 lawyers.

@reneearnett8761 Ай бұрын

Yes!! His defense team was so patient and had integrity!! U could tell!😊

@Wynner55 Ай бұрын

They need to arrest Seth.

@Sunshine22896 Ай бұрын

Hannah is still GUILTY

@carriea.7716 Ай бұрын

Seth looking guilty AF... get the body language expert, wow this guy is a freaking mess!!!! Get em all Jason Bowles!!!

@reneearnett8761 Ай бұрын

AGREED

@cristipratt2844 Ай бұрын

She needs new lawyers

@graemejoyce5629 Ай бұрын

From tbe start I couldn't figure why Sarah was given immunity.. she loaded weapons, brought dummies onto set, threw out dummies/rounds. And Seth was in constant "helpful" contact with prosecution . Hmm

@msbrown8344 Ай бұрын

Exactually!

@paris6963 Ай бұрын

Bowles knew about the rounds 😂😂😂😂😂

@godzillamanstreb524 Ай бұрын

😮😮😮

@TitaniumTurbine Ай бұрын

I don’t know that I agree, Bowles just denied it and Morrisey lied her way through her testimony. At this point - with what we know now, I’d believe Bowles over her.

@djuarakurniawan4738 Ай бұрын

Bowles knew but Teske hadn't handed them to the police at the time of the armorer's trial. What Bowles knew is that Teske claimed to have the rounds that can help the case and asked the investigators to get them from Teske and tested them but the investigators claimed they couldn't get in touch with Teske. Eventually Teske brought the bullets and handed them to the police but that was too late for the armorer's trial. The problem is that after Teske handed them to the police, the evidence was still not tested and filed on a different case number which showed that it is likely the investigator or the prosecutor tried to hide the evidence.

@littlelisa75 Ай бұрын

Also, this "evidence" came in AFTER her trial. Not during.

@cosplayshop Ай бұрын

This evidence come BEFORE Guitierez trial, I believe the rounds were known by Nov 2021 from the Baldwin Trial. Bowles was trying to have the round tested but Morrissey said they weren't a match, so they didn't do anything with it (wasn't even picked up by Law Enforcement until the last day of Gutierrez Trial, when Teske drop them off at local station)

@figgettit Ай бұрын

the defence in GR's case knew it before

@Juke582 Ай бұрын

It was said brought in during her trial so we shall see!

@Juke582 Ай бұрын

@@figgettitexactly! So proof they came in during Hannah’s trial! They railroaded her and her own lawyer wasn’t questioning it as it made her look worse! Nobody is honest!

@djuarakurniawan4738 Ай бұрын

The existence of the new evidence was known before her trial, but the evidence was only handed to the police after her trial which then caused the police/prosecutor to try to hide the evidence from Baldwin's defense team.

@momsterous Ай бұрын

So, Bowles knew about the missing evidence and didn't bring it up during the trial because he knew he could get a new trial out of it later? Does he really think "The biggest question in this case" is how the ammo got to set? I mean, Hannah was still responsible for checking it - no matter how it got there. Even if it was a very unlikely case of "sabotage", she was still supposed to check.

@mariebourke5372 Ай бұрын

My interpretation is that All evidence needs to be shown to each side for it to be fair and constitutional. Baldwin's case highlighted that Kari Morrissey had purposefully withheld evidence or didn't test evidence where necessary. Just like in Baldwin's case...I think this would lend it to a dismissal of the case for the same reasons. We shall see.

@barbararuell8199 Ай бұрын

It is unethical for Prosecutors to withhold evidence it is against the client’s constitutional rights Dismissal is warranted no matter what That’s on the Prosecution no one else Amen 🙏

@TitaniumTurbine Ай бұрын

@@mariebourke5372 Agreed - 100%. It doesn’t actually matter if Bowles knew offhand, if they weren’t provided with that evidence/information during discovery (and more than that it sounds like), that means it was an unfair trial. At this point, I really would expect Hannah to receive a new trial or have her conviction be overturned completely. I’m not sure that this judge can trust the state to retry this case again.

@truecrimejesus Ай бұрын

I'm curious about the identical live rounds that Seth Kenny admitted to buying 2 years earlier. Mr. Kenny mentions it in his Police interview, and even mentions that he wanted to talk to the D.A about them - but then its never mentioned again. What happened to those? These rounds were also never considered and also need to be tested and compared to the others.

@Pontiki1977 Ай бұрын

This attorney is disliked by some folk because he was low key. I liked him a lot. He had no need to be aggressive. His questioning was spotless, he was respectful towards everyone and i believe he did a fantastic job, even though his client lost that initial battle.

@deadmanswife3625 Ай бұрын

Lots of moving parts seth and troy

@bevmacdonald9008 Ай бұрын

Troy helped the Truth come out. He had brought 'the other' box of rounds from the same batch or bin as the bullets on the Rust film set to the public prosecutors' office and his statements luckily ended up on a police officers' body cam. He told them he had been in possession of them since Thel had worked on another film (before Rust) and all along, storing them for Hannah's dad. His statements proved that Hannah did not have access to them and so she could not have brought them, she definitely had not brought them from her Dad's place... I think that Troy and Thel figured out that Seth was using them to incriminate Hannah and create a plausible denial, a degree of separation between himself and the live bullets. Or Troy at the very least figured out Seth was likely to throw him under the bus. Seth, Sarah, and Kari are the "moving parts" source of intrigue I see.

@deadmanswife3625 Ай бұрын

@@bevmacdonald9008 ohhhh ty

@cx4163 Ай бұрын

Once the client drops the $50k deposit we will file that today

@TheMitzyBitzy Ай бұрын

Hannah didn't even pull the trigger, and you call it a tough case? Why didn't he find discovery violations in the beginning? Ridiculous, she went to prison, and Alec walked.

@msbrown8344 Ай бұрын

I do think she has to take some of the blame bc she was suppose to check that gun and if she did she would of seen a live round. In saying that, I think Sarah Is covering for Seth. I think she freaked out and call Seth first and he told her to check for other ammo and she threw them out. I think if they pressure her she will tell the truth. I hope this story is not over.

@TheMitzyBitzy Ай бұрын

@msbrown8344 Yes, some blame is on her but not prison. She wasn't the last person to check the gun, her supervisor had it last. The fact that Alec was treated like royalty and he being the one who pulled the trigger, tells me there is injustice in our courts.

@DN-kz7xl Ай бұрын

"Hannah hopeful for a fair shake". What a pun.

@tracymetherell8744 Ай бұрын

How do they search the entire evidence system for random hidden evidence filed under unrelated case numbers? This will affect other cases that have been tried through that sheriffs department.

@dogcrazy25 Ай бұрын

Hannah is not a co-defendent. Its a separate trial. Not sure why Hannah didnt get a new lawyer.

@msbrown8344 Ай бұрын

I would definitely get a new lawyer....If Baldwin had her lawyer he would be in jail now!

@TitaniumTurbine Ай бұрын

@@msbrown8344 Bowles didn’t have people feeding him critical information that he could have used for a Brady violation.

@almac9203 Ай бұрын

@@msbrown8344Baldwin had 3 lawyers plus 7 paralegals working on his case. Hannah's lawyers volunteered to do the job for free. Hannah probably can't afford the kind of legal team Baldwin hired.

@kateashby3066 Ай бұрын

@@msbrown8344bowels sucked but Hannah was likely gunna lose anyways- she was absolutely liable for putting live rounds in that g u n when her entire responsibility on that moment was NOT to do that.

@pearlskid8425 Ай бұрын

Very few people can afford Alex Spiro. That said he is an amazing defense lawyer. His compensation is in the upper stratosphere for the likes of movie stars and Elon Musk.

@22KingRancher Ай бұрын

Wasnt it stated multiple times that Hannah's lawyer had all this evidence? Hannah belongs in jail

@crowmack Ай бұрын

No.

@SusanWeekly-ji1bc Ай бұрын

Defense in Hannah’s trial did not use the evidence, and defense does not have to disclose evidence, but Prosecution ALWAYS has to disclose evidence, and it was not in this case.

@markjoke3069 Ай бұрын

@@crowmack Yes

@momsterous Ай бұрын

I think Bowles didn't bring it up at trial because he knew he could get a new trial out of it later.

@auntijen3781 Ай бұрын

Well sure I guess you can claim that "it was stated multiple times that Hannah's defense had all this evidence" but the source for that 'repeated claim' was the bat crap testimony of 'MALFEASANCE MORRISSEY' which a) the Judge had already ruled provided sufficient grounds for her case to be nuked via a PREJUDICIAL dismissal, b) followed by another bombshell revelation impeaching Morrissey's same exact testimony you've citing 👆 which came directly from Morrissey's own former co- council Ms Johnson who 360° exposed Morrissey 's UNDER OATH deception as to why Johnson resigned.... So I guess it may be more wise to actually listen to the content of a video BEFORE you comment on it because within this very video right here, Mr Bowles has just unequivocally corrected the phony record as the Judge + Ms Johnson had already done! Thus further exposing the same Morrissey testimony which YOU ARE SHAMELESSLY USING AS THE WHOLE BASIS FOR CLAIMING THAT HANNAH'S LAWYER ABSOLUTELY ALREADY HAD ALL OF THIS EVIDENCE - So therefore, based solely on Morrissey's parade of proven perjured testimony you've still confident on the conclusion that Hannah still def belongs in jail. Stay Classy there, Tough guy @22RingCancer

@Sunshine22896 Ай бұрын

That police station needs to be charged

@winkieblink7625 Ай бұрын

Other than the physical evidence which could or could not be related to Hannah….I don’t see how it would affect Hannah’s case. Her case was about her actions/behavior on the set.

@Juke582 Ай бұрын

Because that evidence may have been burried during her trial! Her lawyer knew about it and chose not to bring it up but now he is manipulating whole thing with lies to try to free the guilty girl!

@valferguson8322 Ай бұрын

This prosecution screwed up BOTH TIMES w/ BALDWIN n now it may spill over to this punk girl!!! Disgusting!!!!

@uschurch Ай бұрын

You're disgusting. Hannah was always a scapegoat. I'm loving that people like you are losing their minds now that Hannah's conviction could be overturned. She should have been pronounced innocent from the beginning. The dirty work of the prosecutor and Santa Fe SO was evident in her trial already.

@TitaniumTurbine Ай бұрын

I don’t know if “punk” is really the right adjective - especially given that this was accidental, but agreed on the other sentiments.

@valferguson8322 Ай бұрын

@@TitaniumTurbine it was sheer negligence in BOTH their parts!!! She looked like a PUNK in all the RUST photos!, very different than how she looked, acted, and dressed!!! She looked like a gang member So not accidental! It was her SOLE JOB to see to EVERYONE’s safety!!! Failed miserable, n testimony showed wasn’t first time for incidents w/weapons on this set!!

@brbrknndy Ай бұрын

Didn't her lawyer already say that the evidence wouldn't help her client?

@truecrimejesus Ай бұрын

The Prosecutor said that, but she’s proven to be unreliable and dishonest. She lied to the court when she said the rounds were dissimilar, but it turned out they were similar.

@missymani Ай бұрын

@@truecrimejesus but HE was aware of these rounds. He didn't want this evidence.

@djuarakurniawan4738 Ай бұрын

Actually the evidence could help her client but I think the lawyer made mistake and probably didn't spend a lot of time trying to help his client. If the new evidence was tested to be identical to the live rounds on the set, it'll give the armorer a reasonable doubt which might help her. She was still careless and made mistake but not as bad as what the prosecutor accused her of. There are possibility of two sources if the rounds match, from the armorer's dad as the prosecutor accused her of or from Seth Kenney which took some of the leftover live rounds with him from the 1883 set where they practice firing with live rounds. Now this can't prove which of the two are the sources since both have connection to the 1883 set where they practice with live rounds but there can be a reasonable doubt about the source of the live rounds since there are two possible sources. If the live rounds were from the armorer's dad then Hannah is the only one at fault for bringing those live rounds to the set. If it was from Seth Kenney, then it was the fault of Kenney for mixing the live rounds with the blanks that he supplied to the set. So it is both Hannah and Seth's fault. Seth for not careful with the blanks that he supplied and Hannah for trusting Seth and didn't check the blanks that she got from Seth.

@truecrimejesus Ай бұрын

@@missymani I agree he was aware, so there would be no Brady violations like in the Baldwin trial. But this still could help his client. For one, it came out that the live rounds that killed Halyna looked identical to the dummy rounds. It also came out that Starline doesn’t even sell live rounds which might explain why Hannah unfortunately didn’t feel it was necessary to shake them. If they are tested and match, it would mean that Hannah is far less culpable and Seth Kenny is far more culpable for allowing the live rounds to enter the stream of commerce.

@kimberlychelen9890 Ай бұрын

Julie, Please Stop 'just joking'! Your anchor here is beyond unprofessional, she is offensive. You can find one better than this, Court TV.

@NovaDexter Ай бұрын

Bowles is incompetent, he shouldn't be a lawyer for anyone but himself.

@littlelisa75 Ай бұрын

I honestly don't know how this helps her case but...sure! New trial! lol Doesn't make her any less liable.

@villebooks Ай бұрын

Right

@SabrinaLWilliams Ай бұрын

The fact the prosecution hid the rounds from Baldwin's defense does not affect Hannah because her lawyer has stated he knew they existed and could have insisted to a judge they get tested but he wasn't interested because the outcome could go against his client. If he can prove they hid other info thatncouls.have changed the outcome of his case, he has a chance so the prosecution has basically torpedoed both cases and done a great disservice to Heleyna and her family. What a slap in the face if nobody is held accountable not because they aren't found guilty but through professional misconduct. Shameful!

@ShyFly1000 Ай бұрын

That’s what I was wondering. Why did he not test these items himself. He knew they existed. That’s not the same as the other case. We shall see what happens in that case.

@truecrimejesus Ай бұрын

@@ShyFly1000 It was a Starline Brass round that killed Halyna. Starline Brass doesn’t make live rounds. This means that someone, either Seth Kenny or Joe Swanson, made the Starline dummies into Starline live rounds for the “cowboy camp”. Those live rounds then entered the stream of commerce. This would mean Federal Charges for those two. Seth Kenny also got caught lying on the stand. He said that Joe Swanson only used silver primers on the stand, but we saw a text to the lead detective which states Joe Swanson uses brass and silver primers. This affects Hannah’s trial because it was never known before that the dummy rounds looked identical to the live rounds and as far as Hannah knew, the company that made the dummy rounds didn’t make live rounds. She is still somewhat culpable, but this new information makes her much less culpable and makes Joe Swanson far more culpable.

@ellescer Ай бұрын

@@truecrimejesuswho is Joe Swanson? Sound made up

@djuarakurniawan4738 Ай бұрын

@@ellescerA supplier of blanks to movie production. You can google Joe Swansons Motion Picture Blanks Inc.

@dr.rousseau9185 Ай бұрын

attorney BALLZ

@islesofshoals3551 Ай бұрын

Check out Seth's interrogation interview with Detective Hancock. It shows his deceptive character

@msbrown8344 Ай бұрын

that investigator looks terrible in all of this also...wow... what a disappointment in that prosecuter!

@Juke582 Ай бұрын

Yes! He is a criminal mind for sure! He knew more than he was saying and too eager to coverup!

@jarianwarren69 Ай бұрын

She literally about to get out of jail, she only got 18 months, people act like she got years, she’s good lol

@janetfrisco772 28 күн бұрын

Why would the prosecution deliberately file evidence under another case number. What a mess. Somebody is lying.

@gabegood8989 Ай бұрын

stop calling her a co defendant.. two separate cases.. she is guilty of being untrained

@kinorspielmann4649 Ай бұрын

I like this guy and don't understand why he took so much stick. In contrast, Morrissey is dreadful.

@mariebourke5372 Ай бұрын

I like Mr Bowles too. He supports his clients well. He seems very fair and just.

@AngeleyesLinda777 Ай бұрын

Hannahs case needs to be dismissed as well, and she needs her lawyer to be tough like Baldwin's. Dismissal with prejudice! Too suspicious sarah and seth calling each other, throwing away stuff.

@waitandhope Ай бұрын

Omg crazy!!

@evilqueenyiayia Ай бұрын

I heard he knew the information and never brought it up. 🤦

@CrazyMaryJo Ай бұрын

He was not sensational representing Hannah. 😮

@carrollsanders9376 Ай бұрын

Hannah didn't have the money to pay for a proper investigation, she had to rely on the State to do the investigation and they were Courpt.

@CrazyMaryJo Ай бұрын

@@carrollsanders9376 “corrupt”. Methinks your spellcheck is on vacation 🤣

@Peace_and_Love_777..... Ай бұрын

I think the lead detective was having a personal relationship with Seth...

@christinahall3991 19 күн бұрын

Good. The prosecutor made a mess of this. It shouldn’t even be retried, it should be dismissed

@TheGuyCalledX Ай бұрын

Her lawyers knew about the rounds and saw them before they were turned in to law enforcement. No issue with disclosure

@JillianSiobhanMal Ай бұрын

That’s what everyone who watched the trial has been saying so I didn’t think they were wrong….

@TitaniumTurbine Ай бұрын

@@JillianSiobhanMal With all due respect, I wouldn’t trust anyone here who claims to have “watched the trial” and I mean either case. There’s a lot of embellishments and straight up lies being thrown around. In HGR’s trial, the state called a witness that as an expert armorer. He clearly stated that actors are NOT responsible for checking weapons - those of us who knew that was true since it was not an industry standard/never has been are STILL being contradicted in comments with people saying “Baldwin should have checked the firearm” - No, it was not required of him and he was not responsible for that. Even the state’s own witness confirmed that, so just be cautious.

@JillianSiobhanMal Ай бұрын

@@TitaniumTurbine Interesting, since the SAG rules tells a different story. And I know they’re not law.

@Juke582 Ай бұрын

But now her lawyer trying to scam snd act like he didn’t know to get her freed! All dishonest skanks!

@Jorah40 Ай бұрын

Bowels knew about this ammunition tho, he was part of it with morrissey to not bring it forward…

@pinkfreud62 Ай бұрын

So if no one is punished because of evidence where's the justice for Halyna?? Guess there was no real death or injury??

@anthonypowell94 Ай бұрын

Talk to Morrissey about that🤷🏾‍♂️

@reneearnett8761 Ай бұрын

@@anthonypowell94agreed! Ask her

@Sunset553 Ай бұрын

The prosecutor gave out immunity to the wrong people

@auntijen3781 Ай бұрын

U seriously think that 'justice' would be felt by Halyna's family even if Baldwin HAD gotten the MAX allowable sentence of 18 crumby ass months 🤔..?

@docmike8601 Ай бұрын

I watched the trial and I was positively shocked the jury came back with a guilty verdict. I will say with certainty, even before this new information, if I were on the jury, I would have not have voted to convict. The whole situation seemed like mess with everyone trying to find a scapegoat. I harbored doubt then and I especially do now. I work in critical care surgery, and I would offer, if a hiospital hires a completely inexperienced and unqualified doctor and something goes wrong, that hospital is responsible. That is what it looked like to me here. Hanna was completely unqualified and unfit for the job of an armoroer, and when things went wrong, it is certainly the person responsible for hiring her that was negligent.

@hopemanreturns3135 Ай бұрын

She should be serving sentence for life. She only had one job and failed

@Sunshine22896 Ай бұрын

So does the prosecutor and police get charged ???

@msbrown8344 Ай бұрын

she is a special prosecutor so I do not know if the bar will hold an investigation

@eriksmith2514 Ай бұрын

Prosecutors seldom get charged. And they are absolutely immune to civil liability for Brady violations.

@victordeleon6939 Ай бұрын

A good lawyer would have found all he mentioned???

@momsterous Ай бұрын

And a great lawyer keeps his mouth shut knowing he can get a new trial or dismissal out of it later.

@Sunshine22896 Ай бұрын

You could have had Troy Tesky

@naomimcewan9744 Ай бұрын

Hang on thinking about it didn't Mr Bowles know about the rounds that Troy Teske had, wasn't Troy a defence witness and wasn't he trying to hand over the rounds during Hannah's trial?

@mariebourke5372 Ай бұрын

Yes, however it was up to the prosecution to retrieve and test the bullets. They didn't. - the bullets then could've been from anywhere and didn't mean anything for the trial. Mr Bowles said that's why they didn't bring Teske to the stand...his evidence and statements were untested. Teske handed them to the police as a last ditch effort to do the right thing. The bullets and Teske's actions weren't told to Baldwin's lawyers...thus they didn't know about this evidence... and this withholding of evidence was the last straw for Baldwin's case, I understand. Vinnie Politan did an interview with Mr Bowles on Saturday, about this.

@Angela-zu8dh Ай бұрын

I believe the one thing the Rush production team is guilty of is this young armorer who clearly wasn’t experienced. They allowed their respect for her father to cloud their judgement on this young woman. Experience isn’t something you inherit. It’s learned. She only has one other movie under her belt. With such a serious job she should have had a mentor in the background to oversee her work. That’s how you get experience. Even so if she got cheated out of a fair trial she deserves a retrial or what ever her defense is asking for. I’m so sorry for the loss of Hanna it’s tragic. But even she didn’t get justice because of the prosecution. The armorer should answer for her lack of actions but, was she set up? It’s said that someone wanted her fired, can’t remember the name of who that was.

@lulu_3860 Ай бұрын

so if it's unfair here then why is it fair for karen read! lally is clearly not acting fair for kr

@melistasy Ай бұрын

Different circumstances

@kimdebruno Ай бұрын

It's not fair for KR. That case is a 💩 show!

@lulu_3860 Ай бұрын

@@melistasy definitely not different. if you go back to beg kr you will see. in very first motions of kr it is clear so much is kept away from defense including reverted videos etc all crazy and circus and the exact reason this case was thrown out is the very thing that has happened in karen's case a couple of times now. no difference

@melistasy Ай бұрын

@lulu_3860 I believe the judge remedied that situation in KR's case. I may be wrong, but I don't recall the defense requesting a dismissal on the grounds of a Brady violation. Did that occur? If no, then it obviously didn't rise to the level of AB's situation.

@reneearnett8761 Ай бұрын

Lally and That judge Bev are sooo the opposite of this trial and judge!! They need to leave their egos at the door and take notes from judge Mary 😊😊

@user-iu7uo5hx5k Ай бұрын

Wow not fair

@Sunshine22896 Ай бұрын

She is still GUILTY

@Sunshine22896 Ай бұрын

The law was on Seths side because they were related

@stephenr.7303 Ай бұрын

Mr Bowles messed up.. niw he rushes to file this and that and jump on a bus re refused to hop aboard before.. comes over as freeloading on mr spiros success.

@voices_vary Ай бұрын

What motivated Kari Morrissey to behave in this way? Could this actually be pure arrogance? She is known to be a highly knowledgeable attorney.

@Juke582 Ай бұрын

Yes! The drive to become famous from high profile case! Sick narcissism! She was manipulative as heck both trials in sick way! I saw her game early on before first trial!

@user-qz2xh1zm4b Ай бұрын

ferrey anna know ferrey 😊

@carolinskeep8106 Ай бұрын

She is not a great actress as Alex is 😢

@theolisaacs8443 22 күн бұрын

Oh the gorgeous Hannah should be fine she'll be fine😅😅🎉 well she got the looks

@grannysint1625 Ай бұрын

Co-defendant?

@kimdebruno Ай бұрын

Having initially based my opinion of the motion to dismiss on the testimony from the first day of the trial, it sounded to me like they had followed proper procedures and investigated this additional rounds / ammunition dropped off by Teske. It sounded like they compared them and figured out they had nothing to do with Rust. I was half expecting the lead investigator to tell us that they were investigating Teske for inserting himself into an investigation and giving false statements (he was NOT called as a witness as he stated in the body cam footage). Clearly, that was not the case, which is why we have evidentiary motion hearings!!! Here's the ironic thing about the additional "evidence" brought in by Teske. Let's just say the evidence was used by the prosecution to prove their case and it was all still handled the exact same way.... The defense would have successfully argued to get it thrown out because they didn't establish a proper chain of custody. I can actually hear the defense arguing this now: Def: Your honor, the state obviously didn't think this evidence was important enough, because they filed it under a different case number. Pros: Yes, but we then realized it had evidentiary value and we linked it to the Rust case and disclosed the evidence to the defense. Def: But your honor they never interviewed Troy Teske and couldn't establish a proper chain of custody. How do we know where this ammunition came from? Pros: We attempted multiple times to bring Teske in for an interview... We never actually heard from Troy Teske under oath about this additional "evidence" he happened upon. He drops it off at the Sheriff'soffice, gives a bunch of unverified statements, never to be heard from again. Except presumably to tell the defense what he has done. The defense had his phone records. This was all established without ever hearing from Teske himself. This is a "wag the dog" moment. Teske was sent there to drop a bomb on both court cases. And the fact that they (State) didn't see this coming a mile away is of concern to me. They tanked their own case by panicking and hiding irrelevant evidence. It obviously should have been disclosed. It should have been investigated further and ruled out as "evidence" in that manner. We cannot allow investigative shenanigans! Judge Mary Sommer coming in clutch! 🙌

@kexith Ай бұрын

Who determines it's even evidence? Someone dropping anything off doesn't make it evidence. There was no proof it came from Seth. I was thinking police were too busy on Hanna's trial and just kept it separate at the time, what the mistake was not investigating further to check if it was actually relevant. I don't think it was hidden in purpose.

@djuarakurniawan4738 Ай бұрын

The new evidence if tested to match the rounds on Rust set, doesn't actually help Baldwin but can reduce the fault of the armorer. That evidence showed that there are two possible sources for the live rounds. From the armorer's dad like the prosecutor's theory or from Seth Kenney. If the rounds were from her father, then the armorer was very bad at doing her job and totally guilty. If the rounds were from Seth Kenney, then the armorer was still not good at doing her job but Kenney shared the blame. The armorer had no reason to suspect the "blanks" from Kenney were mixed with live rounds. The armorer didn't know that in the past Kenney had live rounds with the same casing as the blanks on his possession from 1883 set.

@kwalla123kw Ай бұрын

Karen read is guilty alex baldwin was not

@kathyweagley1273 Ай бұрын

@@kwalla123kw Karen Reed is not guilty there was no blood orange skin tissue on the tail light

@Chosen1510 Ай бұрын

I agree she is guilty

@mattthompson9160 Ай бұрын

You obviously didn't watch the WHOLE trial. Karen Read is innocent!! 12 jurors decided the exact same thing,,, LOOK IT UP!!!;The judge instructions were the only thing that kept her from being completely exonerated!!!!

@korey1112 Ай бұрын

Read guilty

@kimdebruno Ай бұрын

THAT DOESN'T MATTER! You're as bad as Morrissey.