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@lostinwonderart 11 ай бұрын

I so wanted Michael Crichton to show up on your list. So many people don’t classify him as a sci-fi writer, but he was.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

I'm wondering now if he doesn't quite count as hard science... because I do like this work

@lostinwonderart 11 ай бұрын

@@TheShadesofOrange I definitely think it’s hard sci-fi. People don’t consider him a sci-fi writer , I think, because he has very broad appeal, wrote things other than sci-fi, and his sci-fi is heavily based in real scientific theory/speculation and comes across as possible and not fantastical.

@VoteOrDie99 8 ай бұрын

He was also a medical doctor (I think he went to Harvard Medical school) and wrote Andromeda Strain while in medical school, which I would count as hard sci fi

@EricKay_Scifi 6 ай бұрын

Yeah 'thrillers' sometimes get left out of the sci-fi talk. Like Blake Crouch.

@cjour828 Ай бұрын

My favorite Michael Crichton sci-fi work is Sphere.

@splifftachyon4420 11 ай бұрын

I was a bit scared to read Seveneves, both because of it's length and it's in-depth science, but I decided to give it a shot as a little challenge to myself. Much to my surprise, I could not put it down. It was fascinating and gripping and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It also broke a bit of a psychological barrier I had for reading longer books and harder sci-fi, so it opened up whole new book realms for me to discover.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

I felt the same way! It was one of the first heavy science fiction books I read and it wasn't that bad!

@laurap239 11 ай бұрын

I loved Saturn Run by John Sandford (like his thrillers too). Another 'hard scifi' I am currently reading and heartily recommend is 'Inherit the Stars' by James P Hogan. It was written in 1978, but has stood the test of time rather well. The scientists in this story make assumptions, test them, discard and reformulate with new data, exactly as real science works

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

That book sounds great!

@stevejennette25 7 ай бұрын

Laura, You've motivated me to read both Saturn and Inherit the Stars. I bought the KIndle trilogy, but something else keeps jumping the que. 😎

@cindywingetbooks 11 ай бұрын

The Calculating Stars sounds a lot like the movie Hidden Figures, which I loved. I want to check out Saturn Run and the Becky Chambers novella.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Oo yes Hidden Figures and Calculating Stars have a lot in common

@Tim_with_Tomes_and_Tales 11 ай бұрын

Those are some great recs, Rachel. I might need to check some of these out. Thanks.

@JohnG225 11 ай бұрын

Interesting. As you say, we all have our own definitions of hard sci-fi. I work in science, but more me a good hard sci-fi book will make me want to go and want to read more about the science in the book. Good examples would be Permutation City by Greg Egan or Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky. I think Arthur C Clarke is the master of hard sci-fi/'sense of wonder' sci-fi.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

I imagine you are probably bothered by bad science because of your background

@bromeo3032 11 ай бұрын

Nice video. Thanks! Seveneves is one of my all time favorites, I'm glad you mentioned it. And after watching this I think it's time to read Saturn Run.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Glad you also enjoy it

@David_Kelly_SF 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for covering some outstanding science fiction books. A great round-up! Your definition of hard vs soft sci-fi is spot on to me.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Awesome. I know some people had a different definition so I'm glad it's similar to yours

@secretsauceofstorycraft 11 ай бұрын

Love it!! Seveneves-- so many thoughts

@sandrapeglow2003 11 ай бұрын

Aww, my faviourite Sci-Fi subgenre 😍! Thank you for the video and all the recommendations!

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Woo hoo!

@jennyharmony1371 11 ай бұрын

How did you know I needed this video today???? ❤

@leezirkle7840 11 ай бұрын

All went on my TBR except the last 2. I'm just starting.

@tazmane3 9 ай бұрын

Great video, new follower, and it was nice to see so many books I've read on the list...Loved the Saturn Run and especially SevenEves...but I also saw in the background, Ruins by Scott Smith...perfect example of an outstanding book with a terrible movie adaptation LOL...but will be watching more of your videos!!

@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын

Thanks! And yeah thankfully I skipped the Ruins movie adaptation

@khomo12 11 ай бұрын

Great list!👍👍👍🤖🤖🚀 Most of these are already on my tbr📚 I'm adding jurassic Park and the andromeda strain to my tbr📚

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Yay

@mattwysock1020 8 күн бұрын

I chose to major in microbiology because of Th Andromeda Strain. Great book. Glad you included it.

@TheShadesofOrange 8 күн бұрын

So cool to know that!

@kbar4462 11 ай бұрын

Great collection, love me some sci fi. I would also personally recommend A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (not sure if it qualifies as hard sci fi or not). It's an older book, but great world building and delving into conceptual space tier movements

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Oh yes that's a good one!

@maxturgeon89 11 ай бұрын

Great list, awesome recommendations! I've read two Stephenson's yet, Cryptonomicon and Seveneves, and I liked them both. But the third part of Seveneves was really a let-down, compared to how much I loved the first two parts. I want to pick up Anathem next, but Zodiac sounds really interesting too!

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

I completely agree about Seveneves. I just reread and part 3 holds me back from giving it 5 stars

@gregjohnson6021 11 ай бұрын

Great list, and right up my reading alley. Here's a few of my favorites from over the years, most of which I don't think I've seen discussed much on KZfaq, starting with fairly introductory stuff working down to what might be the hardest SF novel of them all. Moving Mars by Greg Bear Gateway by Frederick Pohl Spin by Robert Charles Wilson Queen City jazz, by Kathleen Anne Goonan Schild's Ladder, by Greg Egan

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Loge hearing your picks! I'll look up the ones I haven't read yet

@shakenbacon-vm4eu 11 ай бұрын

Your thoughts about the young science student in all of us was spot on about the Martian!! For me, it was a blast! I think even more was Weir’s most recent book, Hail Mary Project. I felt like a high school physics students trying to physics my way out in that, it was soooo much fun (and hilarious).

@cynthiafialka 11 ай бұрын

I thought The Martian was great and I may have loved Project Hail Mary even more!

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Glad it wasn't just me!

@paulallison6418 11 ай бұрын

Hello ms shades, I really enjoyed this video, lots of new books here for me to check out. I have read a ton of Hard SF but mainly classics such as Mission of Gravity, Rendezvous with Rama, Dragons Egg, Ringworld, Red Mars, etc so I look forward sampling some newer additions to the genre, in particular Saturns Run sounds interesting.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

I still need to read some of the classics you mentioned

@paulallison6418 11 ай бұрын

@@TheShadesofOrange These novels and others of a similar vein shaped the genre ... Red Mars ‘A staggering book. The best novel on the colonization of Mars that has ever been written’ Arthur C. Clarke

@mikesnyder1788 8 ай бұрын

@@TheShadesofOrange "Dragon's egg" is an excellent SF novel and is probably the "hardest" SF I have ever read. Highly recommended!

@prefontaine2790 Ай бұрын

Could you do a list of first-person & close third-person sci-fi books? I always struggle staying interested in books where it's detached from the main characters perspective or just doesn't have a clear main character. The martian, project hail mary, etc are examples of the good first-person sci fi.

@jeremyhunter1459 6 күн бұрын

The Time Ships, by Stephen Baxter, is one I'd suggest. Think of it as an expansion on H.G. Wells, The Time Machine.

@TheShadesofOrange 6 күн бұрын

Appreciate the rec

@ubxs113 11 ай бұрын

A great mix of old favorites, already on my TBR and several new to add to my TBR, thanks! 🚀🪐✨

@vintagesf 11 ай бұрын

Another science fiction recommendation video from Rachel, another trip to the library for me. Time to borrow or reserve Saturn Run. Interesting to see Sanford writing SF. I’d recommend you read Inverted World by Christopher Priest. You might know him from his novel The Prestige which was made into a Christopher Nolan movie starring Hugh Jackman and Christian Bale. Would love to hear your thoughts on Inverted World.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Oh yes I loved the inverted world! It was one of my favourite backlist science fiction books last year

@OurRawHeart 11 ай бұрын

Half-way through The Dark Forest by Cixin Liu. Mind expanding ideas!!

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

I Need to finish that trilogy

@vladeb 11 ай бұрын

It’s not often that I’ve read so many of your suggestion in a video, but you definitely gave me a few books to read in the future. Gonna check out To Be Taught , If Fortunate first…sounds a little like Man Plus by Pohl. If you haven’t read The Water Knife by Paolo Bacigalupi then that’s my suggestion for you.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

No I haven't read The Water Knife but I'll change that

@alexanderfleming3377 9 ай бұрын

I would 100% recommend We Are Legion (We Are Bob) by Dennis E. Taylor. It’s the first book the series know as the bobiverse and it’s one of my personal favorites.

@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын

Oh yes that's a fun one

@SciFiScavenger 11 ай бұрын

BIG LOVE for Seveneves, such a great book. 👍 ❤

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

YES!

@aditj 11 ай бұрын

Seveneves and The Martian are two of my favorites!

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Same!

@DanielKlein23 7 ай бұрын

Love your recommendations! Thought I'd add some: The Expanse (9 book series, famously the first six have been made into a great tv show): mostly solar system scale hard sci fi with exploited asteroid miners, a gumshoe following a doomed femme fatal, and a found family crew on a "salvaged" martian warship. Becomes very much not hard in the last few books, but the first six or so are extremely grounded. Blindsight by Peter Watts: the most incredible and depressing hard sci fi I've ever read. Entirely grounded in biological research and scientific plausibility, we have vampires, zombies (in the sequel Echopraxia), and the most alien aliens ever. Greg Egan's Orthogonal trilogy: enjoy three sci fi novels and get a BA in astrophysics at the same time.

@TheShadesofOrange 7 ай бұрын

Love your inclusions!

@Kelli.Hicks.5 11 ай бұрын

I need to finish Saturn Run. I wasn't able to finish it before it was due back at the library.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Hopefully you get it back

@danellowens20 4 ай бұрын

Looking forward to reading “Saturn Run”, thanks for the recommendation. My favorite book is “New Eden” by Kishore Tipirneni…it deals with quantum entanglement.

@TheShadesofOrange 4 ай бұрын

That sounds cool

@exomake_mehorololo 11 ай бұрын

Interesting topic! I might check some of these out. Something I had in a few science fiction books was that the biological science specifically thoughts on Evolution, Genetics and Ecology were just real bad... Confused, misinformed, utterly out of date 💀 it was really frustrating to read at least as a Biologist. I had to drop the books because I just wanted to cry and shout at the same time. Since then I'm a bit careful 😅

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Yeah I can see bad science in books rough if that's your area

@everrit 7 ай бұрын

Neal Stephenson just had to be on the list, Seveneves was the first of his books that i read, loved it so much i went on a Neal Stephenson binge. I like your other recommendations, really need to get ro Becky Chambers.

@TheShadesofOrange 7 ай бұрын

Glad you also love Neal Stephenson

@FrankOdonnell-ej3hd 11 ай бұрын

sanford has long been my fav crime writer so surprised when he wrote sf novel but absolutely loved it as u did was proud to be one of first readers of jurassic park and have read every novel crichton wrote even the last two non-sf ones zodiac nice tight early work by stephenson though my fav by him is the diamond age with its gutsy girl fighter heroine the galactic center series by benford is my all-time fave hard sf read ⚛

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

I definitely need to read some of thriller novels

@TomerArmarnik 11 ай бұрын

The list had both classic well known as well as some lesser ones as the Zodiac to be added to my TBR. I would have added for example some of Greg Egan's books as most of them are heavily based on scientific elements.

@TheShadesofOrange 10 ай бұрын

Yes Egan could definitely be included in this list

@chrisconnors7418 11 ай бұрын

I’ve read all those except zodiac. Or I may have read that long ago but have forgotten now. I liked Needle (and the other books) by Linda Nagata. There’s some hard sci-fi in those books mixed with soft scifi. I also enjoyed Rachel Aukes’ Waymaker Wars.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Zodiac is SO good! I'll have to check out your picks

@chrisconnors7418 11 ай бұрын

Michael (Fit2BRead) highlighted these in his video. He also had interviews with Rachel Aukes

@federicoguardado2284 11 ай бұрын

I would love to hear your thoughts on The Sparrow by Mary Doria Russell!

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Ooo they are ... not good

@pennryan970 8 ай бұрын

The expanse :)))

@skeller61 8 ай бұрын

I like what you call ‘hard’ sci-fi, as I consider ‘soft’ sci-fi as not much more than fantasy taking place in space. Michael Crichton is my favorite author in this sub-genre. I haven’t read any Neil Stephenson, but will put him on my TBR based on your rec. I also enjoy ‘classic’ sci-fi that delves into hard science, such as Arthur C Clark (2001: A Space Odyssey, even though it delves into fantasy, as well) and even Jules Verne and H G Wells. A short novella by E M Forster, The Machine Stops, which was published in 1909, is stunning in the amazing insight he displays into future technology (air travel being obsolete and people living in hive like structures, with the outside environment having been much decimated). Thanks for the video!

@TheShadesofOrange 8 ай бұрын

I've heard a fee definition so it's possible mine isn't quite right but I go with this

@SFF180 11 ай бұрын

There is certainly a rich and varied history in hard SF. On the one hand, a lot of these stories are the bedrock of classic science fiction. But on the other, many older examples haven’t dated too well, especially for modern readers who expect just as strong attention to character as they do to scientific extrapolation. Asimov, for example, was a chemist and cared a lot about valid science. But he was never terribly strong on character and his most famous series is rooted in a made-up scientific discipline (psychohistory) that he never really explains the methodology of. But then he was good at coming up with a concept, like the Three Laws of Robotics, and then writing loads of stories designed to find the flaws in trying to make them work in reality. Some good hard SF contemporary readers might also enjoy would be A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge, Blood Music by Greg Bear, The Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson, Ventus by Karl Schroeder, Beggars in Spain by Nancy Kress, Diaspora by Greg Egan, Light by M. John Harrison, Mission of Gravity by Hal Clement and maybe The Sands of Mars by Arthur C. Clarke. Yes, Ringworld is a stunning hard SF concept but a fairly middling novel. 🤷🏻‍♂️ (Niven is better at short fiction, so try his Neutron Star collection instead.)

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Love hearing your thoughts on this. I would love to see a full video if you ever feel inspired

@psikeyhackr6914 10 ай бұрын

A Fall of Moondust by Arthur C Clarke

@deckiedeckie 4 ай бұрын

Read The Seedling Stars by James Blish....

@everdinestenger1548 2 ай бұрын

What about Stephen Baxter with his Zeelee?

@cedarwaxwing3509 11 ай бұрын

I started this video hoping you would mention “Seven Eves!” It certainly fit your definition of Hard Sci Fi and was one of the books that really stuck with me long after I read it. As you note, the science is interspersed with great character development and very believable human conflict. There is also a scientist in the book who is pretty obviously patterned on a certain famous and high-profile astrophysicist and science popularizer. As always, Stephenson’s prose is top notch, as is his plotting and characterization. I don’t always agree with your picks, but I would very highly recommend “Seven Eves” to anyone who has even a tangential interest in Science Fiction! Thank you for another excellent video!

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Awesome that our picks aligned on this topic. And now I want to know which Astrophysicist you're referring to

@cedarwaxwing3509 11 ай бұрын

@@TheShadesofOrange I’m sure you know which character in the book I’m referring to …. Stephenson uses him as sort of the explainer for what is going on from an earthbound science explainer POV and he ultimately ends up on the station. It has been awhile since I read it, but I recall thinking that it had to be a thinly veiled version of Neil DeGrasse Tyson. I have hoped S would put out a sequel … several of the concepts introduced in the final section of the book (trying not to let slip too many spoilers) could be launch points for a continued story. Thank you again for your videos. While an avid reader, I can’t begin to approach you for sheer quantity, so I rely on you for offering your viewers menus (and by genre yet) that we can take suggestions from. I also agree with another commenter that Weir’s “Hail Mary Project” would have been ideal for this particular video.

@cedarwaxwing3509 11 ай бұрын

@@TheShadesofOrange Rereading my first post to you, I think maybe I seemed a bit harsh when I wrote “I don’t always agree with your picks.” I’m very grateful that you put out your videos, and I have acquired and read many books as the result of your recommendations. While not as voracious a reader as you are, I do read 4-7 books a week and I am always on the lookout for new authors and new material. What I actually meant is that some of the categories you review have little interest for me (particularly fantasy) although I have sampled a few on your recommendation. Obviously you review a wide range of genres and you can’t please everyone all of the time. Individual tastes vary and sometimes you will give a book high marks that I and other readers don’t find appealing (you like Crichton; I think he was a mediocre writer whose character development and plotting was always given short shrift in favor of his science gimmick-du-jour (his earlier work was better). Perhaps my bias against him partly stems from his right-wing politics and climate-change denial. Anyway, different strokes and all of that. Thank you again for the videos and for your reviews; books play a significant role in enriching my life and I certainly appreciate being exposed to new (or never read older) ones through your videos.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

@cedarwaxwing3509 I was wondering if it was DeGrasse... he's the only Astrophysicist I know 😅

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

@cedarwaxwing3509 first I didn't think you came across as harsh at all. And quite frankly I think it would be boring if everyone had identifical book tastes & opinions. I liked perspectives that challenge my preconceived ideas. And I also like watching my own tastes evolve. I do love Jurassic Park, so I won't pretend otherwise but I've only read a few of his books at this point so I'm not a diehard fan. That's disappointing to learn that the author has some very divisive views. I may now have to warily go a look up more about this....

@psikeyhackr6914 3 ай бұрын

Gibraltar Earth by Michael McCollum First book of trilogy by aeronautical engineer. Interstellar ship from Earth encounters two alien ships where one is attacking the other. The attacker destroys a human shuttle. The human mothership is able to destroy the attacker with the unconventional use of tech. They then explore the damaged alien ship that was attacked. This story gets into a lot of politics of how to deal with the aliens who are obviously dangerous.

@TheShadesofOrange 3 ай бұрын

I'll see if I can find the book

@Octobig 11 ай бұрын

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@riva7rau 11 ай бұрын

I thought Seveneves was awesome. I love books that make me think, work for understanding and stretch my imagination. Alastair Reynolds (one of my current favorites!) is another SciFi author that adheres to believable science in his stories. Highly recommended.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

I definitely need to read more Reynolds

@jamesmitchell2114 11 ай бұрын

Yeah Rachel in the house!

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

☺️

@tinacallaghan4900 5 ай бұрын

📚

@devenscience8894 9 ай бұрын

As an avid reader of hard SF, you still had two books that I hadn't read yet to add to my list.

@TheShadesofOrange 9 ай бұрын

Happy I was happy to add some new titles to your potential tbr

@VoteOrDie99 8 ай бұрын

I wonder if World War Z by Max Brooks counts as Hard Sci Fi? When combined with Zombie Survival Guide, which is basically a predecessor to World War Z, it feels so real that it was what got me into Hard Sci Fi and i highly recommend it to anyone that enjoys Hard Sci Fi.

@TheShadesofOrange 7 ай бұрын

It definitely leans into as much realism as possible

@robbieegan9203 6 ай бұрын

Seveneves is the best.

@vulturom 11 ай бұрын

I don't like those books but I still like listening to you

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Why thanks!

@joodwaleed7570 11 ай бұрын

👍👍👍👍

@andriyandriychuk 9 ай бұрын

AC/DC - Hard As A Rock

@jamesbaird1342 11 ай бұрын

I was surprised not even a mention of Dr. Issac Asimov most amazing life and literature.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Definitely not an exhaustive list. So many notable authors I didn't mention

@factualopinion4275 11 ай бұрын

To be taught if fortunate is probably the most realistic FTL travel.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

Such a good novella!

@epiphoney 11 ай бұрын

I wish it was easier to search for the books that you’ve reviewed on KZfaq.

@secretsauceofstorycraft 11 ай бұрын

You can always use her goodreads account… its what i do 😅

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

I wish too! KZfaq does me no favours. The Goodreads link is probably the best suggestion

@epiphoney 11 ай бұрын

@@TheShadesofOrange You don't say what books you're reviewing in the description. Listing the books would probably increase the views.

@zubaerchaudhari8267 11 ай бұрын

Hey there hello there

@hyrumtanner5584 5 ай бұрын

Neal Stephenson's books are coated . . . coded? . . . in hard science fiction. Seven Eves is great.

@TheShadesofOrange 5 ай бұрын

Haha love that

@darinrobertson7606 10 ай бұрын

😄 Promo-SM

@Pseudothink Ай бұрын

If you're interested in hard SF, take a look at the Wikipedia entry for it. The list of authors and examples it provides is very helpful. This video rubbed me the wrong way for some reason. I started cringing whenever the word "science" was used. Like, "hard science fiction happens when authors use scientific principles in their writing to integrate real science into the plot, so that when their scientist characters use science to science, then you know you're reading hard SF." Exaggerated, of course, but only a little...

@TheMike28212 11 ай бұрын

🐓🦖🔭🪐🚀🦠👨‍🚀🌗

@psikeyhackr6914 4 ай бұрын

One book I recommend for its scientific attitude rather than actually being Hard SF is: *Komarr* by Lois McMaster Bujold In the Vorkosiverse wormholes are used for Faster Than Light travel. But in any supposed interstellar civilization the engineers and scientists must have significant understanding of the physics and technology that makes the society possible. I have only seen one review that points out the scientific investigation in this story. Everyone else makes a big deal of the bad marriage and emotional tension in the story. But the story happens because of misunderstood physics. The characters involve 2 engineers, 2 mathematicians and 2 physicists though one of them is dead before the beginning of the story.

@TheShadesofOrange 4 ай бұрын

I appreciate your rec

@psikeyhackr6914 4 ай бұрын

@@TheShadesofOrange The trouble is that it is kind of far into the series and just jumping into the middle might not best present the story. But it is something that bugged me about all of the reviews I have watched. Have you read any of the Vorkosigan series?

@RatSnitch 11 ай бұрын

Science fiction is hardly fiction

@MoonLightAmethyst_ 11 ай бұрын

11:57 Rude! just because people views differ doesn’t make them incorrect.

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

I thought I was being sassy because I didn't realize it was controversial to believe protecting the environment is actually that controversial anymore

@MoonLightAmethyst_ 11 ай бұрын

@@TheShadesofOrange My aplologies I was having a bad day yesterday. Yes, it is very important to keep our enviroment. It bothers me when people say "this and that is wrong you are bad". Basicly it's a matter of opinion just becuase I think this and that doesn't make it wrong. Different arguement different situation. MY BAD

@TheShadesofOrange 11 ай бұрын

@MoonLightAmethyst_ my sassy not funny hit a few people wrong so I don't think it was you. I recorded this a few months ago re-watching the clip didn't think it came across very cute