Hard Times Closes May 24 2020

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The Billiard News

The Billiard News

4 жыл бұрын

Over 30 years of glorious billiard history has come to an end. Hard Times Billiards was southern California's hardcore pool players headquarters. No other pool-hall came close to the history and true pure love of billiards. They had no alcohol, no fancy sports TVs. What did they have? They had hardcore tables. Snooker tables, Heated Carom Tables, and 25 tough gold-crown 9-foot tables, and ten of them set impossibly tight for the best players in the world to compete on, complete with arena seating. That's right; one went there to see the best players, like in any other major sports arena.
Hard times was voted the Best pool room in America by Billiards Digest in 1996. New York had Amsterdam Billiards, California, had Hard-times. First opened by the Markulis family and subsequently sold to the Thomason family. Then lastly, to Edie. Hard Times served pocket-billiards for several generations. The best players came here not only from Los Angeles, not only from the state, no, they came from all over the world. Where else is this to happen?
Every day up and coming players would come from all over, to lose to the best in tournaments, or to play in ridiculously high-stake money games. Hard-times was a pro player's top college. This pro-college turned out future billiard stars and billiard pros like Oscar Domingues, who now owns and runs the sister Hard Times, Sacramento, now the last temple of billiards left in California. New York gave us the Jeanette Lee, and Hard Times gave us Mary Avina. POV pool media was also was born at Hard-times. A temple of pool gave us an endless list of other great and notable, but lesser-known players such as; Andy Chen, Box Patterson, Jay Helfert, Jun Almoite, Jenny Lee, Dave Hemmah, Melissa Herndon, Brook Thomason, Ken Thomason, Jerry Matchin, Robin Bell Dodson, Wayne Pullen, Frank Almanza, Chris Robinson, Ruben Bautista, Sal Butera, James Woods, Butch Barba, Mark Barba, Catfish, and Hawaiian Jimmy all that become somebodies the tough way, getting their ass kicked. Wagering big and small, no participation trophies here. You win, you lose, get over it. Where are the kid and teenager future pros players going to go? Where is there another monthly tournament drawing over 90 players plus? One that had been doing so for over 30 years. Huge yearly purse tournaments that attracted the best players from all over the world year in year out. Where else?
The tournaments were, though, local champions when to Hard-Times to lose. Why because being the best in one town or county or even a state was not good enough, not special. For the big tournaments, you had to beat Efren Reyes, Francisco Bustamante, Keith Mccready, Nick Varner, Mike Seigel, Mika Immonen, Alex Pagulayan, Earl Strickland, Buddy Hall, Dennis Orcollo, and Shane Van Boening. In other words, the best in the world. Even the weekly tournament would draw 4 to 5 pros or more on average. For close to no money, you had to beat the likes of Ernesto Domingez, Morro Paez, Bernando 'King Kong' and Jose Parica. Where else can you upstairs and have your cue worked on or made by 'Little AL'?
These are sad times for billiards, Hard-times was a magical place for the hardcore billiard player, and I'm angry. Maybe I'm a dinosaur of times past. I don't love easy tiny tables, and I love playing for money. Still, it feels like little by little, the heart of American billiards is being replaced by easy, small tables and handicapped league systems. Finding a money game is harder and harder. I don't dislike leagues but to me. To me, pool should not be easy or safe. I like my pool serious, and we just lost another temple of pool. To quote the great Barbara Lee, "Pool is not dead" Yes, your right Barbara, pool is not dead, but you know what? We are down, and it hurts. It really does hurt.
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@danielcross600
@danielcross600 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if the last owner wouldn't have ran the place into the ground it would still be here? This place was on its way out a long time ago. Chuck knew how to run the place.
@elserpiente98601
@elserpiente98601 13 сағат бұрын
This was one of the last great pool halls that didn't serve alcohol. Everything here boiled down to the absolute purist perspective of the sport. That's why the pro's came here -- it was made for competition. A lot of pool halls emphasize entertainment value, and we should never fault that because it's what keeps pool interesting. But this place was for purists, and that's what made it beautiful and unique.
@BarbsLuck
@BarbsLuck 3 жыл бұрын
This is so sad to me. I spent a lot of good times there with my (then) best friend and I guess boyfriend? Keith McCready. I met a lot of big names there because of him. This place will be missed by a lot of people. sorry to see it gone.
@jeffsutton6353
@jeffsutton6353 3 жыл бұрын
I met Keith there a couple of times. He's a trip.
@edgarjimenez7600
@edgarjimenez7600 4 ай бұрын
Who needs hard times we have good times at Lakewood
@felixvalenzuela6052
@felixvalenzuela6052 Жыл бұрын
Miss this place , cool little video. Definitely going to miss the good ol days. Im glad i had the opportunity to work there. 4th place 3:06 . he said lil all.
@guywithhair93
@guywithhair93 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like it merged with Lakewood Family Billiards since that place is now called Good Times.
@chrisp.9172
@chrisp.9172 9 ай бұрын
Nice story! Where else can you walk in and see Efren Reyes, or Jose Parika, practicing. Or Tang Hoa in a $100 money game! I'll miss 1st Sunday's, where they bump the entry fee up from $15 to $30, add like $700. Where every week you could compete against Oscar Dominguez, Ernesto, Morro, King Kong , Dave Hemmah, and sometimes Rodney Morris, Mika Immoman, or even Efren, when he was in town. I'll miss driving up from San Diego, playing on good equipment against the best players in the world, for $30! Another institution goes by the way, it was hotter than hell in there, pool hall food, not the greatest location. But it was a real bonafide pool hall! Where else can you see Keith McCready, bark at stakehorse Mark, all the way across the room, that Luat can give him the 7, and then the play! And Keither has the right mix going, and puts on a show, complete with "running" commentary. Maybe there will be a replacement, but I doubt it,rents are just to high for a pool hall to make money..
@dknohoward6933
@dknohoward6933 3 жыл бұрын
PETER GUN & CECIL (the duke) 👌
@gboyce975
@gboyce975 3 жыл бұрын
Cecil was an amazing 1 pocket player
@dknohoward6933
@dknohoward6933 3 жыл бұрын
@@gboyce975 You already know then❣ I never could get my game even close to either Cecil or Mr. Peter Guns game! They both gave me 12 to 5 in one pocket...AND I STILL LOST THOUSANDS🤣
@chrisp.9172
@chrisp.9172 9 ай бұрын
How about the "Mexican connection ' Morro, King Kong and Fransisco Galindo..
@dknohoward6933
@dknohoward6933 9 ай бұрын
@@chrisp.9172 I know all of those gentlemen. Great characters
@chrisp.9172
@chrisp.9172 9 ай бұрын
@@dknohoward6933 Yes, I went to a little house party here in San Diego, on Saturday night of a weekend tournament. Spent most of the night chatting with Tang and Dave Hemmah,both super cool guys. And they never did anything to change that opinion over the next 20 years or so..
@PrimalEater
@PrimalEater 3 жыл бұрын
Sign of the times, this is sad news 😢
@9Ballr
@9Ballr Жыл бұрын
Bernardo Chavez is "King Kong," not Fernando.
@JerryLL
@JerryLL 2 жыл бұрын
Of course the original Hard Times was started by Bobby Wallace in Costa Mesa in the 70's.
@royroynovak2572
@royroynovak2572 3 жыл бұрын
Why did they close??? Pool will never die cause a true player will NEVER GIVE UP!!!
@gboyce975
@gboyce975 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, can't believe he said Hawaiian Jimmy! Haven't thought about that guy in years.
@jeffsutton6353
@jeffsutton6353 3 жыл бұрын
I watched him play many times, but moved away in the mid 90's. Did he ever get really good?
@gboyce975
@gboyce975 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffsutton6353 No, not a great player by any means. Especially when you think of the caliber players that came thru Hard Tines.
@jeffsutton6353
@jeffsutton6353 3 жыл бұрын
@@gboyce975 I saw Johnny Archer, Buddy Hall, Keith McCready, and King Kong at hard times. I watched Archer play one-pocket for about an hour, and I don't think he missed a makeable shot. Back then, Jimmy had long hair.
@9Ballr
@9Ballr Жыл бұрын
Hawaiian Jimmy shot so fast he once ran the 7, 8, and 9 and left the 7 hanging.
@TheShootist365
@TheShootist365 5 ай бұрын
😢💔
@JamesThomas-zh2xu
@JamesThomas-zh2xu 3 жыл бұрын
This is depressing....
@bluedoggum8373
@bluedoggum8373 2 ай бұрын
I love how he admits in the video you have to beat champions, and even if you do, you still get no money lol you can’t even make it up
@C_L_
@C_L_ 3 жыл бұрын
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