Building a Ti Trail Weapon - The 120mm RSD Middle Child Ti (XC Mode)

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Building a Ti Trail Weapon - The 120mm RSD Middle Child Ti (XC Mode) - Hardtail Party

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4 жыл бұрын

In this video I clone the banshee xc build onto the ti MC. Which bike will be better as the all-around trail slayer? Stay tuned 'till the next episode. Did you learn something valuable? If so, show your appreciation and support this channel by becoming a Patron today: / hardtailparty
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@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Equipment featured in this video: Side-cutters: amzn.to/2LS5TxP Hex set: amzn.to/3bGUISL Bash Guard: amzn.to/3bK9mIU The best zip ties I've found: amzn.to/3bKU8DN ISCG adapter: amzn.to/3bKU8DN Wheels MFG BB Tool: bit.ly/3bcW0Ws Wheels MFG BB: bit.ly/3a9BuV7

@sclark25 4 жыл бұрын

ISCG amazon link is going to zip ties instead of the ISCG adapter.

@derekmann4317 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Great video. Just ordered the hex set.

@rush4130 4 жыл бұрын

Any chance of relinking the iscg adapter again Steve?.....apologies if you already have and I'm not seeing it

@danno3000 4 жыл бұрын

Also requesting the link to the ISCG adapter!

@drojim184 4 жыл бұрын

My Man is going crazy now after that last ride lol. Awesome bro. I totally get what you are doing for us. Keep pushing these videos out ur the man. This is why I patreon to you. You know how to make content that matters. Thanks so much

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for being a patron, it's the only way i'll be able to keep this up. I really appreciate the support.

@gabrielgarcia367 4 жыл бұрын

I’m telling you, best series on KZfaq!! The mixing and matching of components to different frames is GENIUS!

@thethepete731 4 жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie, that ziptie trick is a game changer. That's slick. (Career mechanic, and car enthusiast. Zipties are my friend) Thanks for that one! I'm telling the guys at work.

@ypure3859 2 жыл бұрын

agree..hate that extra at seat tube. KEEP IT SIMPLE!

@BenYorkeMrHardtail 4 жыл бұрын

I'm 100% with you on the seat post support. keep the that stand over slammed!

@phoenixeasyrider6026 4 жыл бұрын

Dr. Frankenstein of the Hardtail world. Looking forward to the ride video!

@xanderzumwalt917 4 жыл бұрын

I am not a Kashima guy but dang does it look good on the ti frame!

@curvycom 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome info, dude, Awesome flow to your video. I showed your videos today on my impromptu backyard live stream today. Miss you guys. Hope to see you all soon in some way : ) maybe by zoom. Maybe I should do a video about my own bike : )

@davidchristian3612 4 жыл бұрын

P. S. I'm subbed to you. Don't you have a few more channels?

@ElevationEveryWeekend 4 жыл бұрын

Sad to see the Banshee go. I have always wanted a Ti bike, maybe some day but they are $$$. Always lusted for a Moots Softtail 29er. It’s funny Surly has moved away from the jump bar and made several of their bikes more modern trail geo but seems like everyone else is going back towards it.

@ronaldomac566 4 жыл бұрын

I am so envious of all the boss bikes you ride, even your workstation is top quality.....!! Prefer the Banshee personally, keep the videos coming.... Hello from England :)

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I feel so lucky they I get to test the bikes that I do.

@adamrossi7010 4 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait for you to compare to the banshee!!

@dennismiller1602 4 жыл бұрын

.....looking forward to the ride review comp!!

@tmwei396 4 жыл бұрын

My new Ti HD didn't have the ISCG-05 mounts either. So in looking to get the MRP adapter like the one you have I've come across a snag. The MRP adapter is designed to replace the 2.5mm spacer when you have a SRAM DUB BSA bottom bracket like what my bike has. But my bike came with SRAM's new version of that BB and they go rid of the 2.5mm spacer between the cup and the frame for the 73mm version. So now if I sandwich the adapter between the cup and the frame that will throw off the chain line by 2.5mm. But the new BB does have a 4.5mm DUB specific spacer on the outside between the cup and the crank arm. So my plan is to replace that 4.5mm spacer with a 2.0mm spacer to compensate for the 2.5mm thick adapter in order to maintain the chain line but unfortunately I can't just use a regular spacer, I have to use a DUB specific spacer. So in order get that single 2.0mm DUB spacer I have to buy the entire set of 8 spacers because SRAM won't sell just a single spacer. I know this because I've been emailing them back and forth about it. BTW, it was MRP who figured all this out for me when I reached out to them. MRP was a great help. SRAM... not so much.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Gotta love sram's stupid decision to go dub. Great info here for people in a similar situation. Thanks for all your research and for posting it here.

@tmwei396 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty I basically told SRAM in a nice way they found a solution to a problem that didn't exist. I told them I don't know what problem that change addressed.

@doooderino 4 жыл бұрын

@@tmwei396 I have Dub on my Ti MC with the adapter. Shifts fine. People over analyze chain line. Keep your drivetrain lubed and a good chain and it will work.

@edgarsilva9320 4 жыл бұрын

good stuff, just like always, keep it up man

@phrides 4 жыл бұрын

It's fun having enough bikes to swap parts. It's a shame that the Middlechild doesn't get to remain fully assembled and ready-to-ride all the time. At least you can make content out of the time spent swapping-out builds.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way. I too wish I had enough parts to keep it built up all the time.

@robertlitherland4459 Жыл бұрын

Think it's about time you did a review on a pace rc627 or 529 singlespeed and geared

@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын

I've been trying to get one for years.

@robertlitherland4459 Жыл бұрын

@hardtail party that's a shame ! As I think you would love it .

@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын

@@robertlitherland4459 I do too. I haven't been able to convince them to loan me one for review. Oh well, their loss.

@ninjabortion 4 жыл бұрын

I'd even go a bit more with it for zip tie trimming, and say don't use your zip tie flush cutters on anything else. Those are so easy to get chewed up and then you are out of luck trimming zip ties cleanly every again.

@246Drew 4 жыл бұрын

Loving these vids and the direction they are going. Excellent info!!! Have one of those ISCG adapter brackets on my bike now. Saw what you did in the first Ti Middlechild new bike build, made complete sense to have it! I went with the OneUp bash guard because of the options it gave me in 1 price for the chain rings I was considering. Any need for a chain guide?

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I haven't dropped a chain in years. No need for a chain guide for me

@johnnyd614 4 жыл бұрын

That is the sickest HT I’ve ever seen. Can’t wait to hear how it rides. Are the wheels 29 or 27.5?

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Wheels are the same 29ers I've been using in the last few videos.

@JimLodico 4 жыл бұрын

So what does this do to the head angle? And of course I'm wondering how the slacked out DV9 fits into this experiment as I think you said that was at 65.5 and the Banshee at 66.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I go into more detail in my video where I do this to the banshee frame. Ha is 66*. My wife's DV9 is at 65.5*. I compare the dv9 in my video of the ride on the banshee. You'll get more info in the differences in tomorrow's video.

@JimLodico 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty Cool. Looking forward to the ride video of this setup. There is an enthusiasm that comes out in both of your reviews for the the new Banshee setup and the Ibis 65 setup for the joy of hard tails and trail riding that I love. Although I don't know where you'll go with tomorrow's video, I suspect you have three very similar bikes.

@ethanmartin626 8 ай бұрын

Do you think the v2 would also take a 120 fork?

@aberres7142 4 жыл бұрын

Do you wanna ride a Cannondale trail and do a review on? Cheers from germany!

@mtbwill4663 4 жыл бұрын

Hey man. You should try and try hold of a marinobike frame. Custom geometry, 3 different types of steel to choose.from

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I've reached out to them but never heard back. Very interesting concept. And killer price

@mtbwill4663 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty the guy behind it is generally very busy

@MattPayne1 4 жыл бұрын

Kind of feel like the 29er bfe could be added to this comparison.

@crazykoolrn 4 жыл бұрын

Do you prefer the use of an iscg adapter or a bashguard that fits onto the chainring like the Blackspire Defender? Which mounting option do you find to be more durable?

@oubbascooba9824 3 жыл бұрын

How is your overall fitment on the Medium? being you are 5'6 and you ran the pervious ones as small? No issues with effective top-tube being too long?

@hardtailparty 3 жыл бұрын

The biggest issue is seat tube length. I had to cut it off. I love the long reach of the med. I slide my saddle all the way forward to get the ett length i need. I also have a small one that i use for bikepacking.

@hughsnyder891 4 жыл бұрын

I’m guessing the Ti build will be superior even if it’s only slightly.

@wesleecyphers5707 4 жыл бұрын

What’s your real time build duration? And what tools can you not be without.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Spends on the bike. If I wasn't filming and swapping batteries, dumping memory cards, moving the camera around, deciding what to say/show, it'd be about 40 min between these two bikes. It really helps that they have the same standards and all cable routing is external. With internal brake routing it adds an hour or sometimes a lot more. I'm building at least one frame a week at the moment.

@wesleecyphers5707 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty Thanks! Just curious. Can't wait to see this thing rip out on the trail. Probably will just fly over everything🤘

@randypham6345 3 жыл бұрын

Sick video. Can you confirm the Amazon link for the ISCG adapter plate or let me know which brand it was? Also building up a TI Middlechild and looking for one that'll fit. Thanks!

@hardtailparty 3 жыл бұрын

Try this one: www.amazon.com/Fouriers-Adapter-Bracket-Conversion-ISCG-05/dp/B075Q8JQTD/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=iscg+adapter&qid=1612022812&sr=8-3

@josephnubile1970 4 жыл бұрын

kool video, on the banshee with the wheels manufacturing bottom bracket do you need any shims? and if so which ones and on drive side or non drive side? as this is my first build i am confused about the shims and their purpose. thanks again for any insight you can give me.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I needed shims. Read up about your crank to know how to tension it. THe shims adjust how tightly the cranks sit against your bb.

@josephnubile1970 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty thank you i will fully read the instructions.

@johnnyd614 4 жыл бұрын

Now we have to see the Aluminum MC for the ultimate MC ride. Any chance of that?

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

There's definitely a chance. I have plans for it. Once the shipment arrives, I believe I'll have one for review. Fingers crossed.

@mackturtle82 4 жыл бұрын

off topic: I still want to see a Karate Monkey review. I like mine, but I imagine you won't like it on paper due to the geometry.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

On paper I'm not thrilled about it, but who knows after I ride one.

@jaredbailey4599 4 жыл бұрын

Your ISCG adapter link is the same as your zip ties

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for catching that. I'll fix it right away.

@GHinWI 4 жыл бұрын

@3:10...trick I learned (the hard way) is to have the frame upside down when you set bearing preload on the headset. That way, the mass of the fork (and in your case the wheel too) is working with you. Otherwise, you’re trying to set the bearing preload against the gravity of the wheel & fork which leads to a lot more variation.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I always adjust headsets with the bike on the ground.

@CentinoD 4 жыл бұрын

How i wish to have that kind of frame..!!

@cliffsangelsphotography 4 жыл бұрын

That's a beautiful Ti frame. What size frames do you run? Im 5'6 and can run either SM or MD depending on the brand.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I mention it in the video. I have both a small and a medium for different purposes.

@sparks701 4 жыл бұрын

Do you need to add or delete chain links when moving the chain stay?

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Not usually. It's only a 15mm difference from one end to the next.

@fuenstock 4 жыл бұрын

How tall are you? I’m at 5’ -5.5”. I had a small cromo middle child that I sold thinking of gettin a ti, but not sure if I should go small or medium?

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I'm 5'6" with short legs and a long torso.

@mellissanash7517 4 жыл бұрын

With your sliding dropouts do you use a specific tool to tq it down or do you do it by hand?

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I usually torque it down to ggggrrrrrunnnnggghhhh

@mellissanash7517 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty been there.

@henrycoronado3030 4 жыл бұрын

Both builds weigh the same!

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty crazy. I was surprised too.

@hardmtnbiker 4 жыл бұрын

How wide are the rims, i30?

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

25i

@hardmtnbiker 4 жыл бұрын

hardtail party ouch! You might as well put 2.25” XC tires and test your skills with less traction. I know that you like the wider rims and as we both know they’re so much better for hardtail’s

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

these do have 2.25" tires on them.