This went about expected, but Thermalright deserved more love imo, that cooler topped most charts and it's truly incredible. Can't wait to see the Alpenfohn Blackridge tested with modern cpus and it damn well better be in the next part!
@yensteel2 жыл бұрын
Wondering what would happen with a different fan like Noctua's :D
@DMSparky2 жыл бұрын
Thermalright has made awesome coolers for a long time. My first build in 08 with a 1st gen i7 920 had a ThermalRight Ultra 120 cooler that kicked most of the competitions butt.
@oscarl-b88702 жыл бұрын
Agreed with the Thermalright. It topped the charts and he didn't even mention it at the end
@habs Жыл бұрын
Exactly... the Thermalright even being like 100 grams lighter than the C7 managed to beat it. Its an amazing cooler.
@n0vi5 ай бұрын
2 years later I just wanna say it's like "MUH NOCTUA" when the real answer was staring him in the face on each chart. The way to do it is get the TR, get a noctua fan, best of both worlds.@@oscarl-b8870
@simoSLJ892 жыл бұрын
We do not see Mike a lot, but when we do..it's absolutely worth it! Great work as usual!
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@k.o.t.o.n.2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks can you cool down a 12900k with the cryrig c7 just for gaming?
@CaptainMumpitz2 жыл бұрын
great video Mike! Low profile coolers are really heavily neglected on the market and it's great that there's a coverage about a wide selection of them.
@NightMotorcyclist2 жыл бұрын
I guess they figured most people would head to AIOs for low profile cooling performance and all these KZfaqrs aren't helping matters. Luckily we have companies like Noctua focused all around. I'm happy with the NH-L9a in Chromax for this low profile build I made on a 5700G in a Silverstone case.
@CaptainMumpitz2 жыл бұрын
@@NightMotorcyclist I am for aircooling all the way, even in SFF builds. Eventhough AiOs have gotten better over the years, aircooling is just still more reliable and less prone to issues (leaking, corrosion, etc.)
@NightMotorcyclist2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainMumpitz Unfortunately I've been running into more "elitists" saying that air cooling isn't aesthetically pleasing, noisy, takes up too much space or are for people who don't have the skill for watercooling, especially CLCs (I've built watercooling systems before and have cable managed systems back in the IDE ketchup mustard days but this condescending sh-t is starting to grow).
@MyNameIsBucket2 жыл бұрын
I feel like SFF builds are only getting popular in the last few years. Bigger used to mean better.
@mikeymaiku2 жыл бұрын
@@MyNameIsBucket because it did really mean better. Most itx boards were barebones and Pcie connectivity wasnt something you saw common place until sandibridge/ ivybridge and even then it usually involved cutdown features.
@PredalienatorX2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work, cant wait for part 2. I hope the Scythe Big Shuriken 3 makes an appearance.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
It won't. There's a replacement to the Big Shuriken 3 coming. ;)
@DFFans2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks great! Would you be making a video for it?
@scatterforce2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I just purchased the newer AXP-90 X-47 full copper for my AM4 system. In addition to the backplate, the fins are rotated parallel to the ram, allowing for better exhaust and thermals. That's why it's slightly narrower than the original.
@odinsplaygrounds2 жыл бұрын
Love the SFF focus. Would really like to see LGA1700 / 12th gen on low profile coolers (sub 50mm). Using any technique possible to make it run, be that PL2 limits, undervolting, duct-ing, using 25mm fan on L9i, etc. Just want to see which coolers are able to handle 12600k / 12700k the best and at what power draw.. It's pretty much an unexplored topic.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. Interesting point. I want to do another roundup later this year once AMD rolls out their new CPUs.
@HerrBerg2 жыл бұрын
I’m running a intel 12400 with the l9i locked to 70 watts in a In-Win Chopin used as a home office system. Good performance at a ok noise level. Recommended.
@ApacheVR-42 жыл бұрын
I have a Dr. Zaber Sentry 2.0 with a 12600K. Currently using an NH-L9i 1700 for a cooler with the Noctua duct kit. It just BARELY keeps up under full synthetic load with stock settings. Low to mid 90s for temps, BUT it is stable there without climbing any higher. Gonna try some undervolting and see what that does. Also have a few more coolers on the way to try. Biggest headache with LGA1700 is getting a cooler that fits these motherboard options.
@davisbradford74382 жыл бұрын
You could make your life harder by doing all your tests in a velka 7 or a node 202. They're also both
@abdullahmostafa66022 жыл бұрын
I was pretty set to try to get my 12700k sffpc build aircooled but honestly nothing that's out there can handle it at it's max 190W TDP under 60mm. Even if you undervolt and limit it to 150W max power draw it's still not adequate. I ended up going with an AIO and I'm much happier with the temps.
@roebucksruin2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see how the Thermalright and Noctua compare with optimal changes in an ITX chassis. "Optimal changes" meaning fan swaps, gaskets, etc. It'd also be cool to see how they perform in something miniscule, like a Velka 3 or similarly sized case.
@misterscienceguy2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I've spent a lot of time trying to optimise things and the only real thing that had an appreciable affect was changing my Big Shuriken 3's fan to a full size NF-P12 fan. At this stage I already had all of my other fan slots filled on my NR200 (NF-A12s on the bottom, A12x25s on top as exhaust). I found that even stuff like fan profiles didn't lead any appreciable improvement, but having stronger fans on top as exhaust helps GPU temps significantly (intake not so much).
@roebucksruin2 жыл бұрын
@@misterscienceguy Thanks for the reply! It's difficult to carry these experiments out on my budget, so I definitely appreciate the time it took to make this video. There are just so many content creators preaching fan swapping on products like the Alpenfhon Black Ridge and the like.
@tuk912 жыл бұрын
I have the nh-l9i17xx cooling a i5-12400 in a velka 3 and it cools it adequately, high 60s low 70s under most gaming loads :)
@roebucksruin2 жыл бұрын
@@tuk91 Awesome! I'm pretty new to the hobby and planning a build in the Skyreach 4 Tiny. Any and all success stories are greatly appreciated--especially at the scale of the Velka 3!
@jesh8792 жыл бұрын
I had the AXP90cu in a Velka 7. It won't throttle a 5800x. It does get into the mid 80s. I did not use the 65w mode and had overclocked ram+IF. I've moved on to watercooling in an Alta G1M. You can fit 900mm of rads in that thing. If you do your research you will find others also conclude the AXP90cu is the top of this roost. No point in getting something else under 47mm.
@CodeDonut2 жыл бұрын
honestly from your charts, the AXP-90R seems like the best preformance cooler, though idk if mounting procedure is better/easier than the NH-L9a
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
It's the best but lower compatibility and the mounting system isn't quite as good. Plus in some regions it's hella expensive.
@CodeDonut2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks that is understandable then to choose the noctua, but for it's use case with a compatible system, I'd probably still choose it over the noctua. 😆
@mparagames6 ай бұрын
@@CodeDonut yeah it's good but it's taller than he noctua, so for some very compact sff cases it won't fit
@wiedapp2 жыл бұрын
FINALLY! Someone has the Icefloe T65 in a cooler roundup. I always wanted to know how it can keep up with its advertised 65W promise and I must say I am impressed.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
It's a great little cooler
@reece20802 жыл бұрын
Nice calvin and hobbs backgreound! I love these in depth videos about CPU coolers, keep up the good work!
@CubanLegend5612 жыл бұрын
no Alpenfohn Black Ridge? If you run VLP DDR4 and put the 120x15mm Noctua fan under it (blowing air down onto motherboard), it easily will outperform all those coolers.
@mikeymaiku2 жыл бұрын
Also really a pain to get to canada It would cost me almost 200 to ship to my door in vancouver bc lol
@kutsaratinidor2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeymaiku got mine from shop4ca for 73 CAD..took a while though. Im in Ontario..
@kevinmax1012 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a review featuring the is-40x. That boy is such a great value buy here in the PH since you cen get them on sale for $22 shipped! Served my 2400g build very well, though admitedly it had to run at max fans to avoid throttling @ 95+ w of power on a full gaming load. Looking forward to the Low Profile roundup!
@Duckferd2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunate you were not able to get your hands on an Alpenfohn Blackridge (built in partnership with DAN for the Dancase A4). It has a subpar backplate-less mounting system (users get around this with their own backplates), but even in stock form it would have been a pretty competitive option in this roundup.
@Sarkrum2 жыл бұрын
My first thought as well. I have a Blackridge with a Noctua A9x14 Chromax underneath and a A12x25 on top. In a Sliger Conswole, I've yet to discover a better combo. It's a fantastic so far and dead silent.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I order d one and two months in, it hasn't arrived yet.
@perdomot2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks I had the Blackridge and one thing you find out the hard way is that its so long that it can block the video card slot unless you are using a case with a sandwich layout. Something you might want to check out in the review.
@AkselEstensen2 жыл бұрын
@@perdomot did u try rotating it?
@ApacheVR-42 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks I have a spare that I would be more than willing to loan to you for testing. I bought 2 for my MSI Z690I build that I just finished and it unfortunately doesn't fit that board at all. Always like to have an extra laying around. Let me know if you are interested. Also, wanted to quiz you on a few things with your Sentry 2.0 build (I did basically the same build that you did, 12600K/ RTX 3090/ etc) that I'm not sure have really been talked about yet. At least not that I have seen.
@ImNotChineseX3 Жыл бұрын
Those low profile coolers benefits the best in sandwich layouts cases like the DAN A4 or the Louqe ghost S1. Also, Noctua makes some a foam gaskets for the NH-L9a which concentrates the direction of airflow better into heat sink better. I've saw a drop in about 7C when using this in My DAN A4 with a 3600x cpu. This also allows me to run that fan a little slower to reduce acoustics. I highly recommend using those gaskets where the NH-L9a is closer to the side panels of the case.
@HDAD4192 жыл бұрын
seeing the performance of TR AXP-90R, makes me feel glad that I bought it over Cryorig, Noctua and CM ones.
@Kizarat2 жыл бұрын
I love these low profile coolers and the way they look inside a PC when viewed from a transparent panel.
@jaquestraw12 жыл бұрын
Wow Mike, this was a lot of work! Very well done 👍
@josephlambert91122 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching Hardware Canucks a few years ago (no interest in the topics) but now I'm in the market for a few things and Mike has the best actionable videos for me! Mike is A+!
@jeffyjefferyjeff28482 жыл бұрын
Love the high effort testing, but a lot of these coolers are set-up without their optimal configs - usually most of the coolers with 92mm fans are swapped for a9x14s, since we want optimal heatsink performance with the best noise normalized fan. Stuff like the is47k should be set up in intake instead of exhaust with a Noctua L9 backplate / bracket (10c+ drop over stock, depending on QC, and even then some units have concave coldplates), or replaced with a Black Ridge v2 entirely. Hidden gems like the Z39 ($10-15) are used instead of the is30/l9a to reduce the effects of side panel vent turbulence etc with the fan also in intake, for a lot better noise-normalised thermals. Here's a list of all the coolers that are usually best in class for most cases, from a few years of data in the SFFPC discord: 36mm: axp90x36 w/ a9x14 swap 39mm: z39 w/ a9x14 intake swap 45mm: bent Black Ridge v2 w/ a9x14 47mm: axp90x47 FULL Copper w/ a9x14 OR C7G w/ a9x14 OR: Black Ridge v2 w/ a9x14 intake for better noise with turbulent side panels 47mm w/ VLP ram: Black Ridge + p12 slim / a12x15 53mm: axp90x53 FULL Copper w/ a9x14 58mm: axp100 (58mm) Copper w/ ty100bp 65mm: L12 Ghost Edition w/ a12x15 swapped (or nfb9 kept, small diff) OR: axp100 65mm ty100bp / Big Shuriken 3 w/ scythe KFS for better RAM compatibility (or p12 slim swapped onto the BS3 for reduced cooling but better noise normalised) 66mm: L12s bent down (for use in Ghost S1, Formula X1 etc) OR: axp120x67 w/ a12x15 70mm: L12S w/ a12x15 Anything Higher than 70mm but lower than tower: C14S
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
What you are talking about is potentially adding more cost. Some of these are already quite expensive (IMO) and spending more cash to swap their fans just isn't optimal from any standpoint.
@jeffyjefferyjeff28482 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks This is true to a certain extent, but some of the coolers (z39, is47k etc) on here are relatively cheap even with an a9x14's cost added on (staying cheaper than say a L9a or AXP90CU respectively, even the 47k with the noctua backplate), and performing a lot better than the "better" cooler's stock configs for acceptable noise levels - mainly due to some brands' 9015 fans being pretty horrible, ID cooling etc in paticular. If you ever plan to do an update, those two combos would be best value in class for
@FrowningTaco2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffyjefferyjeff2848 So if one was to do a fan swap on an is47k to a NF A9x14. Then place the fan in the correct orientation (which is intake). After that buy a Noctua L9a AM4 backplate. Would this config be better than AXP90 X47 Full copper with NF A9x14 for an sff build where you have max 47mm? The reason I don't consider blackridge is due to ram compatibility.
@jeremyatienza16762 жыл бұрын
Im very excited for the next round. It really is the most entertaining [size/performance/price] teir. I'm sure you will include the noctua L12S and alpenfohn black ridge, but I am excited to see what else you have chosen. This video was great btw! Good info for those breaking into the growing sff community.
@why_tea2 жыл бұрын
This video coming in the right time, planning to build a sff system in the near future, and this is definitely useful, i was already prepared to find each and and every video about the low profile coolers, thank you!
@wayneqaz123452 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you tried this in the video but the IS-47K needs the fan to be flipped for best performance. In the SFF community, they found best way to set up low profile coolers is the fan always exhausting towards the motherboard. I would love to see the performance between fans up vs down on all these coolers.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
I don't think the brackets allow for that. But good point. Sorta like the Black Ridge OC Mode
@wayneqaz123452 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks I think you should be able to, from what i remember i think the fan is just screwed on. maybe we might have a different model version?
@tarfeef_42682 жыл бұрын
Really would like to see you test the IS-47K with the fan flipped, that's how I and most ppl I have seen on forums using it, performs better from most people's testing
@Kajukota2 жыл бұрын
One cooler you didn't add, which is ridiculously short and able to fit into 1u chassis is the CNPS2X from Zalman. They are normally very cheap, around $15. They perform pretty decent for most 65w tdp cpus or apus, but very well if you're able to install a 120mm fan just above it. I used one in a goodisory a01 case with a ryzen 5600g and i was amazed it was able to stay quiet and keep the cpu under 78°C in benchmarks that taxed both the cpu and igpu.
@80780011 ай бұрын
An excellent video! Really appreciate how you approach this from an SFF use case, rather just throwing us some numbers. Thanks!
@arfmf2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the work on this one. This will age like good wine, a forever relevant video. Thanks guys!
@PsychoStreak2 жыл бұрын
The Noctua manages to do all that with a 15mm fan. It can be even better with a 25mm fan if you have the 10mm to spare. The Thermalright s a solid performer, but DO NOT run it without a backplate unless you want to see how much an motherboard can bend and still work.
@HDAD4192 жыл бұрын
I own an AXP90R and didn't used a backplate on it coz I bought the very early batch. Can you suggest which backplate can I use on it? I've seen on Taobao that they started selling a version that comes with a backplate, really wish it came included in the first place.
@sophv2 жыл бұрын
Some users on r/sffpc have done testing in the past and adding a 25mm thick fan on the L9a/L9i actually does not provide any additional benefit. This was tested with a Noctua NF-A9 I believe, and performance matched the NF-A9x14. Adding a fan duct to the A9x4 is the better option if you have the space.
@PsychoStreak2 жыл бұрын
@@sophv What CPU did they use? What I found is that the 25mm fan let's you run a faster CPU that would otherwise max the RPM of the stock fan without incurring the sound it makes when maxed out.
@robbiemer81782 жыл бұрын
I am running a 3700x with the Noctua NH-L9a cooler in a Lazer3D LZ7 case. I built this pc late in 2019. And have been pretty happy with the temps. But, recently I started thinking about what kind of upgrades I could actually do. I think that a "better" CPU is not going to work well in this tiny case and I have not seen any ITX 3060 cards for sale--even if I could afford one. So I started thinking about possibly better cooling and lower noise. After watching this video, it sure seems like I've got it about as good as is possible in the 7 liter case I have. So, thanks for saving me a few dollars on trying another fan! Not many SFF videos leave me content with what I have, this seems a bit odd. :)
@noinimod2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! The work that went into the graphs, presentation and graphics are a real treat and pleasure. Thank you for the effort, it is much appreciated!
@TechRodent2 жыл бұрын
Mike! I loved your roundup but I would have also loved to see the Jonsbo HP-400 included as I heard it even outperforms the NH-L9I
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest. I ordered one from AliExpress and it never arrived. :(
@TechRodent2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks AH dang. That's a bummer. I'd love to see if it makes an extra mention in part 2!
@Evil_XIII Жыл бұрын
Thanks for takin out the guess factor, i was searching for a good LP cooler for my diy home server
@Kromunos2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for his since the Tower Cooler videos, finally! Low Profile coolers can get some love! >:D
@GR-cd2kx2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! I’d like to see how small tower coolers like the Noctua D9L and U9S perform compared to some of the larger downdraft coolers
@zusurs2 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion AiO watercooler is the way to go these days - prices of them have fallen a LOT making the cheapest ones barely 50% more expensive than a mid-range fan cooler, and they give so much flexibility (you can lietrally place the radiator outside the case, if necessary).
@perdomot2 жыл бұрын
I had the Noctua 9A and it worked fine but ended up switching to the L12S which really kicks butt while still being able to fit in my NR200 case.
@ricoswabe182 жыл бұрын
The ID Cooling IS-40x v2 is the overall clear winner here.
@Boombox1987192 жыл бұрын
The c7 seems to only be easy to get in some countries like Australia for me and I swapped out the fan for a noctua one and used cable ties. But the more expensive graphine version has mounting clips to use other fans
@n0vi5 ай бұрын
Thermalright is the one to choose for SFF. It's been so good cooling my i7-12700kf in a DAN A4 sfx case, with a hot as hell 1080 TI (evga ftw3) baking it up at the same time. I actually found I can re-enable the E-cores on the CPU because the TR heatsink just takes the heat. It's awesome.
@akiesa5592 жыл бұрын
amazing video big thanks for your sff coverage we are a small comunity and these videos really does really help consumers
@mysticode2 жыл бұрын
This video with its charting is a masterpiece. What amazing work, HC team!
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@martythestines2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you made this video. I needed a good list of small coolers for my laptop. My OMEN 15's 80w 10750h and 100w 3070, overload the small cooler. The cover on the bottom has grating along the bottom above the heat pipes. So I am cutting a square out, so I can use some thermal pads to put a cooler on them. Even a little bit of help will go a long way. I have a laptop stand that will already work perfect for this. And I don't move my laptop much from my living room. It's connected to the TV. So I figure the rare occurrence of me wanting to move the laptop around or out of the house, wont be much of an issue. The laptop will literally just be sitting on top of the cooler, so just a simple tilt and lift should get it up without ruining the thermal pad I'll be using. Again, thank you guys for doing this video. Saved me some hunting. I'm going with the IS-47k, since the fan is between the cold plate and heat sink. As long as I can get around the same temps I get now, with less noise than the fans in the laptop. I think setting the fan speed of the laptop's fans to decent sound level, along with the IS-47k at a similar level, will make the gaming experience on my OMEN so much better. While still making it portable enough.
@grognours692 жыл бұрын
One of the best review on low profil cpu air cooler out there ! Maybe on part with GN :P
@Nektopoulo Жыл бұрын
Revisiting this video because I'm upgrading from my 6700k and plan on reusing it in an InWin Chopin case as a media center, thanks HC for the guidance in choosing a CPU cooler...
@shaolin95 Жыл бұрын
Was looking for this video for an HTPC build. Thanks!!
@Dylan-et2yz2 жыл бұрын
Your best video yet. Great job. I’d be curious how the Noctua performs with a full height fan.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@IcebergThermal2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for featuring our IceFLOE T65! We want to mention that if anything happens to your fan, just let us know as it will still likely be covered with its 6-year warranty! If anyone has any questions about our cooler, we would be happy to answer them.
@ivovass1952 жыл бұрын
Now this is some very useful information, lots of important details shown. Well done
@Revenant_Knight2 жыл бұрын
Revenant from SFFN here. Great round up and nice work!
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Revenant! Love SFFN! - Mike
@peter.pandemonium2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your videos! Thorough research and investigation done and is very informative (including the helpful visuals!). Thank you so much for taking the time to help us understand the difference in performance-wise between the current low profile market options. Keep it up!
@MrTorexko2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, very detailed, thank you. Looking forward to the low profile category. Maybe you can also include a chart with RPM/noise data for every cooler?
@SpeedyTubaGuy2 жыл бұрын
I have the Noctua L9a except what I did was upgrade it with a full thickness fan instead of a slim fan. Highly recommend if you have enough extra room
@BadDevil4212 жыл бұрын
Of course Thermalright takes the lead...I'm using their LP coolers since 2009, currently an AXP-200 serving my old Q9550 retro PC for my absolute pleasure. I wish more people would realize how consistent Thermalright is for a long time now and begin to use their products instead of those fancy-trendy brands...
@ailluinthethyra61392 жыл бұрын
I hope you can include the Thermalright AXP120-X67 and the new revision Scythe Big Shuriken 3 Rev. B for the low profile cooler roundup. They're both 67mm tall and will match up against low profile mode on NH-L12S. It would be also interesting to test both with Nidec Gentle Typhoon or NF-A12x25's. Both coolers should be able to fit the Meshlicious with standard thickness fans whereas NH-L12S is only good for low profile mode with stock 15mm thickness fan.
@mikemischler28862 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for video like this for a while. Thanks for doing it.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
Labor of love. ♥️
@ccallaghan842 жыл бұрын
I’ve got both the noctua and isk47. The isk47 outperforms the noctua on my 5700G in all tests…. But I use a noctua fan and turned it into a down draft, rather than up draft. The heat sink is just better than the noctua. So it’s a little more expensive since you gotta buy a noctua fan, but it performs well if you are willing to mix and match.
@happyasmc14362 жыл бұрын
18:26 I am so confused by the placement of the potted plant here. More than I expected. Lol.
@NightMotorcyclist2 жыл бұрын
Your frustration with Cooler Master's kit is what many of us had felt for years. I found the installation process of the Hyper 212 Black RGB Edition to be a PITA and doesn't give you any hints at when you're too tight when screwing down the heatsink. The GP200 was almost as bad but the performance was absolute garbage for me.
@mihailmelnic32382 жыл бұрын
really great effort you made
@Doktor1346 ай бұрын
Video is simple and very understandable. Well done !!!💪💪💪
@shadow191212 жыл бұрын
Please look at the Noctua NH-U9S and Noctua NH-L9x65. I’ve seen next to nothing from the big tech community regarding these.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Like I said, this video is about coolers with a height of 47mm or less
@sabrid542 жыл бұрын
crazy good production quality!
@GorkemYildirim2 жыл бұрын
I have the Noctua NH-L9a on my AMD A10-6700 since 2014 and no issues until now!
@yziquamizzle2 жыл бұрын
I really needed this video when I was building my sff pc 3 years ago...
@richardfarmer65702 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have a NH-L9i and it always amazes me how well this thing works. Only one I would consider replacing it with is the AXP-90R but I have a DeskMini that only has 46mm cooler clearance. I also have the Noctua NH-L12 Ghost Edition and will be curious to see your review on the slightly bigger coolers.
@stereoDoza2 жыл бұрын
Axp-90 is clear 47mm
@icozmeq2 жыл бұрын
Great work, but can you include Jonsbo hp 400 like direct competitor vs Noctua NH-L9a/i to see how they perform against each other?
@nayanpitlam56212 жыл бұрын
This video is something i really wanted Awesome job mike
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@VascovanZeller2 жыл бұрын
Please compare these to a 120mm AIO, as often it's a choice between a low profile cooler or a small AIO and if love to see how they compare.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
How about the BEST low profile vs a basic 120mm AIO?
@VascovanZeller2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks any test is better than no test - thanks for the work you do!
@QuentinStephens2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Useful, instructive, and engaging. Roll on your next video!
@the-patient-9872 жыл бұрын
I'd like to mention 2 things: 1- I understand there were height restrictions for this video but the IS-47K would perform a lot better with the fan on the top. I hope we can see that results in the next video. 2- In the NR200 all coolers would perform better with a fan on side bracket feeding fresh air from the outside. This has been tested by Machines & More and Optimum Tech. Anyway this was a great video.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
Completely understand. Honestly though if you are going to ful the fan, it becomes higher, thus defeating the purpose of a truly low profile heatsink. At that point you may as well go for a higher 62mm heatsink that's gonna net better performance right out of the box....
@the-patient-9872 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks While I agree I'd say we also have to factor in the budget. At least where I live ID-Cooling tends to be a lot cheaper. And maybe you don't need much more performance.
@rickau2 жыл бұрын
I have the non-copper Cryorig C7 in my Silverstone Raven RVZ03 and it goes like a champ. It was a legitimate coin flip between this and the Noctua and it came down to what was available at the time when I needed to make a purchase.
@bernardolivares16752 жыл бұрын
Awesome review. I have an AsRock A300W with a Wraith Stealth. I was thinking of getting the Cooler Master , but after this video, I guess it's either the Noctua or the Thermalright.
@vinyfiny20192 жыл бұрын
The fan needs to be flipped to intake on the IS-47K. Extremely similar design to the Alpenfohn Black Ridge which benefits greatly from the same thing.
@yevgeniykhakhaev97882 жыл бұрын
Just the video I needed
@spcw5682 жыл бұрын
very interesting. i might switch my pure rock slim and get a low profile cooler, and a case. informative video
@catriona_drummond2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the Scythe Shuriken 2 in the next round! I just have a soft spot for Scythe coolers. A Scythe Ashura was the only thing that would keep my bad batch 4790K from melting, (probably by insane mounting pressure).
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
We have all their new coolers. Including new versions of the Fuma, Shuriken and a few others.
@joaopedrogod2 жыл бұрын
I used to have a 4790k "from hell" and only solution is delid. Ever using ordinary thermal paste (AS-2), got a almost 30 degree drop in full load and + 200mhz OC capacity)
@Soul-Burn2 жыл бұрын
I have a Shuriken 2 where I replaced the Scythe fan with a slim Noctua. Similar temperatures, but a nicer noise profile.
@catriona_drummond2 жыл бұрын
@@joaopedrogod Yeah I was always too scared to do that. XD
@catriona_drummond2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks Awesome!
@yensteel2 жыл бұрын
Dear Noctua, please make a 47mm CPU cooler. If you could make a 37mm cooler that good, imagine what happens if it's 10mm higher. The L9x65 couldn't fit in a lot of cases, and it would sell really really well.
@TheJamesKF2 жыл бұрын
Its amazing that the L9 Noctua still keeps on chugging. Every time I look at different low profile coolers its always back to the L9.
@TechyBen2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. IMO these are fine for 65w parts. I did upgrade from my C7 that worked floorless on my Intel 4000s and 6000s series. Had to give it up when I went AMD 5000, as my first 5600x would have needed an upgrade fitting kit, and it died and I ended up with getting a 5800x instead. Won't stress out the C7 on such an OP CPU as it seems to overheat some tower coolers. But anything under that and I have no regrets on the C7.
@Rhylen2 жыл бұрын
I don't comment often, but had to say Great Video! Very detailed!
@GoFeri3 ай бұрын
This is a legendary review, but time for a new round: Thermalright AXP90-X47 (47mm) - replaced AXP-90R from July 2021 Thermalright AXP90-X47 Full Copper (47mm) - replaced AXP-90R from July 2021 Jonsbo HX4170D (45,3mm) - Launched March 2022 ID Cooling IS-47S (47mm) - Launched April 2022 ID Cooling IS-47-XT (47mm) - Launched November 2022 Be Quiet! Pure Rock LP (45mm) - Launched December 2022 Jonsbo HP400S-New (40mm) - Launched March 2023 GELID Slim Silence Black (41,5mm) - Launched August 2023 Alpenföhn Panorama 2 (47mm) - Launched November 2023 ID Cooling IS-37-XT (37mm) - Launched March 2024
@BaconWaffle16072 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot for the summary video, it helps me alot in part of my decision making of a cpu cooler for my pc build that i have😁. Pretty much the perfect video that i haven been searching for...
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@troytaylor1913Ай бұрын
I put the ID cooling heatsink on a 35-watt Ryzen it doesn't need a fan. It does well under full load it takes about 5 minutes to get up to 70C. I have a fanless power supply. You can put your ear against my office desktop and not hear a sound it it totally silent. I had to use a part from an older AM3 mount to make it work with Ryzen but I forgot what that was.
@kennuimuffins24262 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the next video. To be honest, nothing new here, C7 and L9A/I have always been the best in this size class. Hope you can include the older BIg shuriken rev 2 because it's a decent amount smaller - which can be the difference between fitting and not fitting in some cases.
@russelmurton15612 жыл бұрын
Keen to see the catagory that the NH-L12S fits into, being the step up from these
@juanignacioaschura94372 жыл бұрын
I would've wanted you to test the Thermaltake Engine27. I know it's a rare find, but among the sub-30mm coolers, I remember its performance was appropriate provided you use 65W TDP chips.
@aaronhurtado21952 жыл бұрын
Should retest the IS-47k with the fan flipped so that it pulls air through the heatsink towards the motherboard. It performs better that way.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
It would be higher than the limit for this video tho. ;)
@aaronhurtado21952 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks I said flip the fan. Not put it on top of the heatsink.
@aaronhurtado21952 жыл бұрын
Btw almost all ultra low profile coolers perform better this way with the air being blown down towards the motherboard.
@Lukiel6662 жыл бұрын
I have the Cooler Master G100M which I bought for the looks. And because it was on sale for $40 Canadian. Absolutely right about about the mounting and molex RGB, incredibly aggravating. It has a height of 75mm so it is low profile. Hangs over the first 2 ram slots so low profile ram only. Please include this in next video as an example of what not to do.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
I think I explained how bad these older CM coolers are. No need to beat a dead horse. Lol
@robertt93422 жыл бұрын
75mm does not seem like a low profile cooler.
@Lukiel6662 жыл бұрын
@@robertt9342 Low, not ultra low. In the same category with the Cryorig C1 at 74mm.
@anmolagrawal53582 жыл бұрын
For what it is, this video should have much more views
@DJSammy69.2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!! Well done! Many thanks for including gaming temp.
@0M19952 жыл бұрын
Finally Gaming temps test, Thank u.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
Makes such a big difference....
@0M19952 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks Big difference for me too because I have itx build and using it for just gaming.
@carlosteixeira39662 жыл бұрын
Thanks for those gaming results , they really help sometimes specially when people are on more tight budgets etc
@Nuri_91 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks so much for doing this!
@AtaGunZ8 ай бұрын
Huh, it seems I've unkonowingly had almost all of these coolers at one point or another. I build very specific custom devices and had to have a large selection on hand (the heigh is usually not the only issue, and I often needed to cut/modify some of the fins to make them fit).
@DiazThumb2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love this man's ITX journey!
@emp19852 жыл бұрын
Thermalright AXP-90 X47 in a Meshlicious in 4-slot mode. Works marvelously. What I don't like of it (and most ITX coolers this size it seems) is the installation on the back of the motherboard, which almost involves guesswork on the proper torque needed for a succesful install.
@double0cinco7952 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Continue to make the best SFF analysis videos imo.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@prince31212 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos. Great and very informative as always. Cannot wait for the next one!
@user-be3mk6cg4c2 жыл бұрын
*Stares at my cooler* "Its ok Noctua NH-L9x65, you still little to me"
@yeahmanitsmurph2 жыл бұрын
Feel like there was a missed opportunity to cover Thermalright’s AXP90 “X36” or the Metalfish Z39 which trade blows with Noctua’s L9i/a in the sub 40mm and seems unfair to match it against designs that I hardly see in SFF communities.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
I would agree..but not. The "metafish" is impossible to import into most regions for under $80 USD which is absolutely ridiculous. The Thermalright X36 sounds great but finding one is becoming increasingly hard.
@yeahmanitsmurph2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks They’re both available on Amazon directly from their respective manufacturer’s store. Shipping time isn’t quite typical for other Amazon Prime items, but it’s still free shipping at least to North America. Edit: Both below $40
@tianmul81342 жыл бұрын
Not familiar with the other coolers, but L9a is definitely not easy to install, especially not on an assembled system. You need three hands to do it comfortably: one to attach the cooler from the front, one to hold the backplate front the back, and one to insert the screws. Oh, and also you need two heads to monitor the whole process, one in the front to make sure the cooler is aligned, and one in the back to make sure the backplate and screws are aligned.
@HardwareCanucks2 жыл бұрын
That's endemic of LP coolers unfortunately. But other than the Iceberg the Noctua has the best install here. IMO of course.....