Wow, very good value, what Mobo?

@@AlexHusTech MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon... Not even a particularly good board but it served me well over the last years

Yep, and I see no reason to upgrade at all, especially since I only have a RX6800XT and a R9 5900X.

​@@josephnorris4095what's your resolution? I'm at 3440x1440 and my 5800x3d and 6900xt is doing alright but an upgrade would be awesome (gpu specifically)

The GOAT!

Yeah, lets go back to using 720p for CPU benching.

Might be their first pc😉

I remember when they did 360p for cpu benchmarks in 1999.

And here I was, this weekend, searching for 1080p monitors on RTINGS.

​@@arc00ta tpu has u covered 😅.

your daddy is goat

and you are gonna say that again for the prolly 9800x3D something later this year bro

@@donsly375thankyou. He’s a hardworking man who loved his family and always put us above himself. He sadly pass away in 2020 but I love him a lot. Miss you dad

@@dogdie147 My heart is with you brother

​@thkhoa8805 yeah x3d is goat status like 5800X3D. If the rumors are true and the 9800X3D will be able to sustain higher clocks compared to the 9700x and still overclock then it will be a Goat to anything on the market unless Intel proves otherwise.

Rich? You mean your horrible at saving money. Saving just 20 bucks a month in between product releases will add up to like 800 bucks. Poor life skills

@ksks6802 that's assuming that 800 wouldn't go to things like health expenses, rent, car repairs, or other things more important than a gaming pc. Hell it could even go to games instead.

​@@shadow105720that's why it's called "savings". You try and not tap into it. If you cant save 20 bucks a month...you've made some unbelievably bad decisions in life. Go cry about it.

@@ksks6802 they could live in a country where working gives them $10 daily, which in 21 work days/month gives 2 days of work and 10% of earnings... you don't pay different prices for hardware, most often US pricing is the lowest since there's no VAT or other taxes/expenses

@@ksks6802 800$ for a marginal performance upgrade or invest that into equity of a company? I'd rather invest first. Only when its a huge upgrade it'll be worth forking out $ for an entirely new platform

so he is smart enough to build a pc but too stupid to figure out the best components?

​@@frankieinjapanstill, someone who do not know about ryzen 7 7800x3d is ignorant

@@toseltreps1101 He knows how to find that information. I mentioned AMD in passing during a casual conversation, and he said "I think I'm going to build a PC again soon. What's the best CPU right now?". So I said 7800x3d, and linked the video in case he wanted to check it out himself. It's just a casual conversation between brothers. Sheesh, you are definitely not fun at parties 🤦

​@@toseltreps1101dont talk anymore, ever.

​@@toseltreps1101 bruh

Pc enthusiast doesn't exsit anymore.

@@kevinerbs2778 Yep, we died out when RGB took over 🌈

@@kevinerbs2778 what do you mean by that?

Based on this video, what would be the best video card for full HD using the 5950x and 5800x3d ultra quality?

@@MordWincer total volume of any is almost nonexistent. Like it was always low like any from 1% to 5% but now it's 0.1% as high to 0.001% like the people who use S.L.I/crossfire/mGPU would be in the "PC enthusiast class". But now everyone just trolls those people to death & calls them dumb for owning or using S.L.I./Crossfire/mGPU. All it's about now straight up gaming & most ideas come from Reddit which is a horrible place

like the spongebob special spatula

RTX MacGuffin

We happy?

@@whoeverthisguyisthank you for making me smile

You mean like when on it catches on fire?

Yep, leaving out the Power Consumption and 4k Benchmarks makes this entire video incomplete

With my last power bill higher 28% (including 10% rebate for lower consumption) then previous one, power cost is more and more important... So much so that I started to cap FPS at 144. And they are already announcing more price rises...

Simple really, if you care about power usage then buy a 7000 series Ryzen. They are the most efficient.

@@CallMeRabbitzUSVI 4k is pointless because they'd almost all be the same FPS

@@johntotten4872 That may very well be, but i would rather see a chart in the video allowing me to compare that for myself instead of taking your word for it. It would also be really useful for cmparing the actual gains/watt compared to older very efficient gaming CPUs like the 5600x. The 7800X3D is anywhere from 30 to 100% faster...but how much more power does it use on average? That data is really much harder to come by than it should be. This video includes both of these CPUs. I was really looking forward to that comparison when i watched it - only to be left empty handed, so to speak.

It's still going strong for a DDR4 platform. Most likely gonna skip the 7 and 9k series.

still rocking mine with 12gb 3080 and its strong

5800x3d is the 1080 Ti of CPUs. Punching hard for a long time

i'm running it with a 4080 super 💪

It's definitely good, but being on AM4 with DDR4 it's definitely held back. I wouldn't say it's holding up to the Intel 13/14th gen or Ryzen 7000 at all, but it's easily the best AM4 chip and for a reasonable price. If you're using a higher-end card like a 4080 or 4090 or anything in the future then the 5800X3D isn't gonna cut it.

trying to decide if upgrading 5800x3d to 7800x3d is worth it or if I should just wait on the 9000x3d series (which will be overclockable apparently??)

​@iCantEditBro 5800x3d is already great cpu, better wait for 9800x3d and check its benchmark to see if its worth the upgrade. If you upgrade, it would cost a lot because you would also need to buy new am5 mobo and ddr5 ram.

@@iCantEditBro no, when the time come will be other cpu than 9000 series..

​@@iCantEditBro same price 7800 has 20% better performance.

The 79503D is better for balanced gaming/productivity but I admit 7800X3D is the king for gaming only. As I test AI upscale models, the 7950X3D was the best choice as I hit 60 to 100 percent workload, so the 7800X3D wouldn't have been enough. FYI I have a HD6870 as GPU and I wait price drop for current gen GPU. Sadly, I will not take a NVidia GPU cause of obnoxious prices. So I'm restrained to CPU for AI upscalers. I managed to use Blender better with my 7950X3D cause of higher core count, IDK what would have been with the 7800X3D but I'm happy with the CPU I chose.

No thanks back 💀

When one Steve goes to sleep, the other is just waking up. How lucky we are to have 24/7 Steve.

@@Osprey850 *_STEVE INTERNATIONAL 24/7_*

@@Garde538 you good, bro? Lol idk why it’s expected, at least seemingly so, that one must be thanked or thanked back by channels that barely have time to take a sht. And besides, it’s not like I donated the gdp value of Coruscant lmao

Just subtract like ~5% from 5600X results

@@shoobadoo123 no

12600 was the last without E cores.

@@moebius2k103 12600 has e-cores, 12400 doesn't

@@moebius2k103 Not true

The $166 13400f at Walmart with DD43600 ram With a good z790 would still be a stocking stuffer. If you need/want more than 4 USB ports.

Agreed. My 12400F has been a trooper.

They even forgot 12100f😮

Just subtract like ~5% from 5600X results

Agree, saw the 12400f on Newegg the other day for $120. 12100f was under $100. Amazing budget Cpus.

​@@shoobadoo123no? 12400f is en par with 5600x and not 5% worse.

Yeah, I really hate how game performance is usually limited to spectacular 3D games, which aren't really CPU limited. There is also factory and colony management games like Factorio, Rimworld or Oxygen Not Included that are greatly affected by CPU speed and sometimes RAM / cache performance in the late game.

Don't you see, Reviewers live in a limitless energy bubble where the elercticity is live and free (Energy Pun)

How much is 1 kW where you live? Here it's like 0.092$ per kW spent.

@@sermerlin1 It depends a lot on the contracted power and company (e.g. joining energy + gas gives you benefits) but I currently pay 0.1472€ per kWh.

@@MiguelSilva-sm7xl that's quite more alright but is it so insanely more pricey that you can't afford to game with any part you want? Like even if PC while gaming uses say 500Wh is it really that costly? Say you are playing 5 hours a day every day for a whole month... isn't that 11.25$ in total spent (give or take some cents)? That's really not a lot.

AM4 and AM5 CPU's use far less power than Intel 1700 ones so there is probably not much point 🫤🤷‍♂️

Extreme profile 253/253W

@@Hardwareunboxed wow u replied!, cheers for all the handwork you and your team does and ty for that clarification too

@@Hardwareunboxed Was gonna ask this same question, thankyou for replying! (Might be helpful to pin this info or add it into the video description.)

What i don't like about the 13th gen and 14th gen i7s is the awful perfomance per watt vs the 12700K. It makes them impractical for audio/music work, an AIO doesn't make sense, it must be air cooled. My 12700K has AVX512, easily beats a 7800X3D (also has AVX512) on PS3.

Was going to buy that chip last week. Then seen what's starting to happen with 13th/14th gen. I'll be avoiding completely now, especially seeing how they've been fobbing off gamers accusing them of using incorrect board settings. I'll be holding off for AMD 9000 CPUs now.

​@@saricubra2867 performance per Watt is miles better on newer intel gen, - it's just that they can reasonably argue that when it comes to i7/i9 most of the people have the top of the line cooling solutions so do 253W cpus. Anyway - I cool my 14900k using air, and it's alright - not saying it's worth updating from 12700k though.

@@tteqhu "is miles better on newer Intel gen" Is not because they pushed the sillicon too far.

​@@saricubra2867 It is. 12th gen is just before the intel's shift. They were more conservative with default CPUs PLs (now the boost to 253W is set as a target). AMD 7000 series, is by the same metrics less efficient. However if you lock down power limits, you'll find out that they're significantly more efficient and in fact don't need 200-250W.

Thanks to AMD sponsoring these guys behind the scene lol

Same. Love mine.

"Dead platform" is irrelevant when you don't upgrade often. 13700k is great don't worry. It'll serve us well for a few more gens. Offset the voltage down by 0.09v and it'll be a sleeping beast.

​@@yuunashikiIt's still relevant. If you bought a 1000 series ryzen chip in 2017, you could buy a 5800x3D now and not need a new motherboard or ram. Thats 7 years apart. For a value minded buyer, the ability to upgrade to a new CPU for only the cost of the cpu itself 7 years later is a massive cost saving.

@@JoeNokers I think you may have misunderstood my comment.

13700k is an awesome Cpu. Had mine since release and plan to keep it a few more gens.

Naaaaaahhhh I’ve got more than that on a 2600k

@@TheBottleneckedGamer really? My top tier gt730 would beg to differ.

My 2410m and GT540M from 2011 were doing well* untill a few weeks ago. * at 9fps

I own a Haswell i7-4700MQ laptop that gave me higher fps on CSGO than a *desktop* i7-3770, let that sink in.

FR

True. It outperforms even 5700X3D in terms of price/performance ratio and demolishes 5800X3D, which is crazily expensive.

Depends entirely on what games one plays. And as for am4/5700x3d, the platform cost with mobo+ram is a bit cheaper@stangamer1151

@@user-wq9mw2xz3j True AM4 (DDR4/5700X3D) is still a bit cheaper than AM5 (DDR5/7500f). But 7500f is also bit faster than 5700X3D. With tuned RAM it outperforms 5700X3D by ~15%. Plus AM5 offers great future upgradeability, unlike AM4, since 5700X3D is a dead end here. Taking into account these factors, AM5 totally worth a bit of a premium IMO.

It was available for some hours last week at 100 Euros in Germany last week. Now it's back at 146 but still the best deal on AM5. Especially since 7600 prices went up by 10% since May .

I basically bought my 12700K new a months after it's launch for 330$. Not even the Ryzen 7 1700 at launch had that value. It always made the 5800X3D look completely stupid for me, then i tried a simulated 5800X3D by turning off the E-cores. 8 cores 16 threads really feel sluggish vs 12 cores with 20-24 threads. I never liked the 5800X3D, and for games when the X3D cache doesn't matter, the 5900X pulls ahead because of clocks and cores, it's much more faster in productivity.

You scoff in 40K R23 while gaming.....

especially overclocked

@@laurentiudll 12700K has more overclocking headroom than a 7600X. The latter already is around 5.2GHz, the 12700K is that fast and it clocks at 4.7GHz, the 7700X is definetly the trash CPU of Zen 4, it will fall apart if you set it to 12700K clocks.

Always has been. 🙂

I would wait for the 9800X3D which is rumored to launch in a few months

​@@TheKims82it will be 20-25% faster in games compared to the 7800x3d. Intel needs Arrowlake to do very well in IPC uplift.

Me too...

I've had mine for about 7 months now and it's killer. No issues and tackles video editing and gaming like a champ. Good temps and power draw too. No complaints.

It's not intel or AMD problems. It's Bethesda's problem.

His comment makes sense because that was a comparison between 2 cpus with similar performance (7800x3d and 7950x3d). While, yes, multitile surely can have an impact, there was nothing to compare to, since all the intel cpus of that level have e-cores. Meaning: while it's useful to point out that the 7800x3d can be a better purchase because of that issue over other am5 products, it doesn't matter for intel, since all the other cpus are all of the same.

@@MattJDylan you make a good point.

@@MattJDylan That's my point, and why his doesn't, in that specific situation I pointed out and is solved with a change: it depends on how many threads the game engine will use. Starfield will use more than 8 threads, and are not well scheduled, so anything that HAS an option of which core to use has a scheduling problem. The 7800X3D doesn't HAVE a choice. All threads HAVE to cooperate on that single CCX. Intel's 14th Gen just upped the E core count to get multithreaded up to competitive with AMD, and so 8 of those threads will go to the faster P cores, but since it has a choice, it will put thread 9, 10, 11, etc, on an E core, meaning if the thread has to be waited for, the lows in the fps count will go down. Same for the two-chip vcache options: the other core isn't as fast, so it still has to wait until that thread ends, hurting the lows. The 12th Gen Intel doesn't have as much of a problem: it doesn't have many E cores to play threads on, so it will cooperatively multithread on a P core much more often. 13th Gen ups the 13600 count of E cores, so more threads are run on the vacant E cores, hitting the lows a bit more. And 14th Gen ups the count of E cores even more, hurting the lows even more. And since the higher quality chips from intel, like from AMD, use more "not faster cores" to handle more concurrent threads, the lows are hit more at the higher end (e.g. 13900) than the lower end (e.g. 14200). The AMD 7800 with vcache is a low end configuration that has a LOT more cache, which means more cooperative multitasking, but since it has a larger cache, more hits on-die so those threads operate a lot faster.

Based on this video, what would be the best video card for full HD using the 5950x and 5800x3d ultra quality?

you will be good its just you will have to upgrade that graphics card every 3-4 years in that 10 year time frame.

I got a 7950x3d and 4070 super with 64GB of RAM, I'm hoping for around 5 years. Tech just advances so fast.

@@msg360 Thank you, yeah will be interesting to see what the future holds for GPU's and other hardware.

@@MajoraEXP I was thinking about that, but with what my system cost in total I think that I could not go the top of the heap in the Ryzen series. I wanted to go to the 4080 Super but that was $500 AUD more than what I could afford.

@@Ghastly10 I would have gone with a 4080 but I only upgraded cause I won at the casino xD otherwise I'd still have a i5 9600k. If only I had won more. Quite a huge upgrade for me still

that chip makes no sense though, no one should buy it

@@MaxIronsThird I disagree

As someone who uses a pc for more than gaming, the 7900x3d makes a lot of sense if you can grab one for $330 on sale.

@@qu54re65 but we're talking about gaming, the 7900X3D is a inbetween CPU, worse than 7950X for productivity and worse than the 7800X3D for gaming while also being more expensive.

@@MaxIronsThird It's 5-10% worse in gaming than the 7800x3D while being 50%+ faster in multicore tasks. At the same time, it's ~20% slower than the 7950x3D in multicore tasks, but the 7950x3D costs currently 50% more. With the launch price it made no sense, with lowered prices it absolutely does make sense.

Didn't make the cut.

If it were included it would most likely top the price/perf chart. Saw it on Newegg for $120 the other day. It is an amazing budget/mid tier gaming Cpu.

@@mrhassell Take 9zzz 12 months to mature anyways. Just like 7xxx.

your CPU is about 8% slower than the 12600K benchmarked here

12400f is perfect imo. Im using it for my 7900 xt build basement system and its amazing value at 1440p

the 12400f is still good enough until like 7900xt or 4070 ti super; so no need to upgrade the cpu yet, at 1440P

It is mate. Ive upgraded my GPU to 4070s and I'm on 12400, no visible bottlenecks at 1440p. All the games I play ulitilse GPU to 100% or I'm limited by the refresh rate of my monitor. Don't worry and enjoy

aight good to know, thanks guys

FR

Based on this video, what would be the best video card for full HD using the 5950x and 5800x3d ultra quality?

that was the dumbest thing i have read this year.

This is exactlt why you SHOULD test at 4K, this isn't 2011 anymore most people watching will already have a Gamung Computer and look to these mega benchmarks to inform them unto which CPU to upgrade to next. If he tested at 4k, it would most likely show that most people are fine with their CPU and it wiuld show then where to spend their money next. But I only know this because I game at 4K and 8K. Most people don't and will get the impression they need to upgrade the CPU to the 7800X3d or whatever to get the best performance when in reality the higher the resolution you go the less relevant the CPU becomes

​@@CallMeRabbitzUSVI Most people are smart enough to get a CPU that supports the frame rate their GPU can produce in their favorite games at their monitor's resolution (which, according to the most recent Steam poll, is most likely 1920x1080 anyway).

@@CallMeRabbitzUSVI ?? it's a cpu benchmark test, not letting the gpu bottleneck the cpu and showing the difference is THE POINT of the whole benchmark, that's why it's done in 1080p with 4090 seriously how do people not get that

Based on this video, what would be the best video card for full HD using the 5950x and 5800x3d ultra quality?

@@KZfaqTookMyNickname.WhyNot It all depends where you test. He is testing in the city act 3 which is very cpu intensive.

agreed, and it seems like the 7800x3D does really well with 1% lows.

Digital Foundry would disagree with you. What 1% shown here and 1% in your mind is different. What you're thinking about is frametime consistency. What if i spend 90% of my time in a not busy environment of the game and only 10% on the heaviest part? The 1% wouldn't even do justice. Meanwhile frametime consistency really represents the feeling of judder or hitch even though you're at 60+ fps constantly, those 60 frames could be bunched up in the last half of 1000ms, instead of evenly 60fps/1000ms. So in this case avg is better because we're measuring peak performance, not the consistency of the game itself

@@rzkrdn8650 then your not busy environment is always fine with pretty much any 6+ core CPU of last 3 years, but those heavy parts can become annoying

You are severely limited by that CPU, you can cope as much as you like, it's not going to change that fact.

You don’t seem to be aiming for high refresh gaming. I could limit my FPS to 30 and my CPU would last for ages. If you’re okay with that, it’s your call. I want 100+ frames on all games. It can’t be stressed enough how much better of an experience it is.

I upgraded from Haswell i7-4700MQ from 2013 to an i7-12700K in 2022. I more than doubled the single thread perfomance gain, fps gains easily 7 times (floating point speed).

And the 7800X3D is yet to reach peak status. 1.5-2 years later, by the time even Zen 6 is released, the 7800X3D will be much cheaper but remain more than enough for the vast majority of gamers. And with ample headroom for future upgrades.

​@@valentinvas6454My thoughts exactly! The only thing about the 9000 series I'm interested in is how much they drop the prices of the 7000 series 🙂

At being a one trick pony, sure.

​@@Rorschach1488_tell me you are salty for buying an Intel cpu without telling me you are salty for buying an Intel cpu.

@@josephk6136 No ragrets, mate. I love my 14700K. That's one proper CPU without any gay shit.

r/hardware gonna downvote

​@@JoeL-xk6boand Intel mob will point out that this channel is biased, that AMD didn't invented anything, and that Intel is cooking something better 😬

Yep 50%+ still game at 1080P according to steam hardware stats.

​@@AlexHusTechWhich is massively skewed by internet cafes in Asia....

@@LupusAries These cafes, what resolution are they playing on?

4k superior

@@J1e9r9r6y No one is contesting that 4k is superior man, is only that a 4k gaming monitor is still way expensive and a GPU capable of playing 4k for all games as well.

The problem with the 12700k is that the 13600k beats it in most games and for less money.

@@LiesThatBind You can find a 12700K with AVX512 instructions beating a 7800X3D with AVX512 on PS3 emulation. There's nothing more CPU intensive than that. Heck, the i9-11900K which was the fastest CPU for PS3, with overclock loses against the 12700K *at stock* . 3% singlethread difference between 12700K and 13600K, the 12700K is easier to cool than a 13600K because it clocks at 4.7GHz (8 p-cores), the 13600K clocks at 5.1GHz, at that point just get a 7600X that is cheaper and clocks at 5.3GHz max. 6+8 Big-Little is just a weird number than won't age as well as 8+4. Intel realizes that the 12700K was a mistake, so they forgot that 8+4 number. I only know one chip that is similar to that anomaly, it's the M2 Pro also 8+4.

14700K will pull ahead of the 7800X3D once the latter lacks the raw multithread and clocks muscle. Right now the 12700K is pulling ahead of the 5800X3D.

Based on this video, what would be the best video card for full HD using the 5950x and 5800x3d ultra quality?

13400f at walmart for $166 keeps them all honest.

I like the 12700K more because of the 8+4 configuration. The 6+8 config of the 13600K makes it look like an overclocked laptop i7-12700H which is basically what it is.

Zen 4 would likely pull ahead because the entire platform supports AVX-512.

@@riven4121 12th gen can be found with AVX512 and the IPC is higher than Zen 4. 12700K beats a 7800X3D

Epic CPU

no new good cpu's being released on am4 anymore, and the fastest one you can get is the 5800x3d which is comparable to the 7600

​@@autumn6994 Is the 5700X3D somehow not a "good new CPU"? Some of you are so lost lol

@@madelaki You're the one who's lost if you think the 5700X3D is new or good. It's only good if you're already on AM4.

@@madelaki yes the 5700/5800x3d are good, but they make the most sense as a upgrade (even then, the AM5 R5 7600/7500f is much cheaper and it has similar gaming performance) there is really no point in building a new AM4 DDR4 system in 2024

AM4 isn't a Dead platform - AMD is gonna release new CPU's for it at the end of July along side the new AM5 release. I would call AM4 a secondary platform and still a worthwhile platform for those who choose not to or don't have the financial capability to just switch from AM4 to AM5.

In this vid, they were using ddr5. So since you're probably on ddr4, your 12700k will not get the same results

@@shoobadoo123 True and I am aware of this. At the time it meant DDR4/DDR5 was 32GB rather than 16GB within the budget and again nearly always a compromise when considering game vs productivity but for a processor that was virtually written off at launch it doesn’t do too badly at all!!

@@deepend9376 With DDR4 the 12700k is basically a 5900x. It's a pretty decent drop in performance.

Also what's your powerdraw in gaming and under workloads? Also the US prices mske me grin, as in Germany we can get a 5800X3D for 299 VAT included, and for a while it was down to 269 VAT included. It is very game dependant, but in sims like ACC or DCS the 5800X3D still rocks with inanely high, smooth fps.

@@LupusAries Although the power is high during gaming (as mine with decent cooling boost WAY higher than spec) and DDR4 is probably 4-5% slower in games (remember it won’t run DDR5 particularly quickly) the extra memory makes up in productivity. Also in productivity the IG and codecs give a real boost in some apps. During general use the E cores actually work and idle and general office use is used less than my previous AMD rig. As the system generally runs off the solar panels or battery backup then power/power costs are not a major decision point. Please be aware I’m not saying the 5800X3D is a poor choice or a bad chip. I am certainly NOT saying that and it’s a fabulous chip. I’m only surprised that the 12700K gets as close as it does as that was not what was suggested on release.

Never miss an opportunity to learn something.

That is definitely the case but it's nice to have the option to just pop in a contemporary CPU+GPU in 2-3 years time for a mid-term upgrade.

It's me! Rockin a 5600 on a X370 board. Yes, I'm missing PCIe gen5, SAM, and maybe something else. But I don't really care that much.

I disagree, motherboards have become much less relevant to performance than they used to. I think 1 motherboard per DDR generation should be the new standard. If you had been able to get a good quality DDR4 board in 2016 that could run a 5800X3D that would be 6 years with no lost performance, potentially offering 2 or 3 cpu upgrades. PCIE3 is still sufficient for all but the highest end GPUs, and slower SSD sequential doesn't impact games. Really the only thing motherboards have to offer is USB 4.2x2.2 squared or whatever they decide to call it

Look at all the 4usb b650 and B660, b760 motherboards for both sides. Using multiple controllers or a racing wheel is going to cramp the space. Many people are like a switchboard with their PC I/O panel as it is. I'll take my 8 USB on the back of my Tomahawk Z790 any day. I know for a fact the onboard sound choices are mid at best for most of those boards. The entire LGA1700 line up from AsRock was stripped. Cheaper but stripped down.

@@kramnull8962 If IO is your only reason for spending $100+ extra on a much higher-end motherboard, most mid-range boards around $170 have headers for some combination of 6-10 extra USB ports, basically all of the CPU and chipset IO that isn't already on the rear IO. Beyond that, USB hubs are also an option. I have one on my desk simply to spare me the hassle of crawling under my desk whenever I need to temporarily plug something in.

The 5700x3d is only about 6 - 8% or less behind the 5800x3d. It's very comparable and half the price.

7500f 😂

​​@@KZfaqTookMyNickname.WhyNot we're almost the same. 5700X, 4070 Ti Super, System Shock (1994) and System Shock 2 (1999).

Before my 7800X3D I had the 7700x and 9900ks, which I Upgraded from the i7 980xe Ihad for 10 years at 4.3 ghz. The i7 980xe was able to play Metro exodus at extreme settings at 3440x1440p 60 fps. The game looks better than some titles today for a 2/2019 title ( with 1080ti ftw hybrid).

11900K, Fallout: New Vegas, 8 - 12% CPU utilization xD

For me it's the opposite (for old games). Finally with my 12700K i can get 100-110fps on Crysis 1 and playing Minecraft without being a stuttery mess when loading chunks.

2 days away still.

THIS

Cyberpunk is an Nvidia Spoiled Title. It will get FSR 3.1 when DLSS 5.0 is out....

I mean it deserves the dang praise it gets. I wish it didn't heat so aggressively out of the box though, had to dial down some of the voltages to tame it. And the funny part is that I didn't even lose any performance, so it is needlessly aggressive out the box.

5700x3d benchmarks pls

5800X3D is no longer interesting, it is way too expensive for what it offers. 5700X3D is the CPU, which deserves to be praised. Although even 5700X3D is outperformed by 7500f, the true value king.

@@stangamer1151 5700X3D is still better in MMOS and some high fps games.

@@wizarian Not if you tune RAM. Then 7500f is faster than 5700X3D in all games. DDR5 is a big improvement over DDR4. This helps 7500f a lot.

Competitive gamers still very much use it and it's basically your only choice if you want to use a 360hz+ monitor in some games

I use that resolution and my name isn't "no one". Beside 165+ Hz monitors and 1440p or 4k?!? You're out of your mind son!

Haha

So since nobody plays single player games SOLELY to benchmark CPUs, it really doesn't matter that this test, a test that benchmarks CPUs, DOES use 1080p for single player games. If your CPU can throw 180 frames per second, then it doesn't matter if your GPU can do 280fps, the CPU will be able to throw 180 and the GPU will be less used. If your GPU can only do 80fps, then it STILL doesn't matter, the CPU will be able to throw all 80fps at the card it can display on screen, and the CPU will be underused. And if your monitor only does 144Hz, then it really doesn't matter, since neither your CPU nor your GPU are maxxed out, they are both waiting for your monitor to catch up.

I feel severely attacked 😢 but you are so right

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