How to Make Hydraulic Log Splitter Way Faster! #80

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Hard Working Man

Hard Working Man

Жыл бұрын

My driving rant! Followed by my hydraulic log splitter modifications that made old blues cycle time a lot faster! These easy upgrades to the hydraulics are something I should have done years ago. I changed a few hydraulic lines and replaced the hydraulic cylinder or tan on my splitter to a far more appropriate size ratio. How much will these mods improve cycle time?
#fastsplitter #firewood #logsplitter #cycletime

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@DanielAtkinsFirewood
@DanielAtkinsFirewood Жыл бұрын
More work than I would have put into it but hey even I learned something today so thank you for sharing the info..
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Yeah, part of it was just seeing if I could do it. I won’t be running it too much now though. My new splitter has arrived as well. Now we both have to decide work the same amount and have much higher production, or make the same amount of wood and have way more free time! I think I know what we’ll both do. Thanks for the comment.
@kareemmason3052
@kareemmason3052 Жыл бұрын
Well said about the left lane
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kareem!
@bcrusher1979
@bcrusher1979 28 күн бұрын
I always say "Camp in the Woods, not the left lane!"
@fricknjeep
@fricknjeep Жыл бұрын
hi there i think you did a real good job , i remember back in the early 70s when i built mine but with on internet and only one wood splitter manufacture , talking about learning . there are a few other things you may want to look into if interested let me know . well done john
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks John. And yes always willing to learn! I have picked up my new splitter which is awesome and will be on the channel soon but still interested in any improvements I can make to Blue. I also have a project in the works for my new splitter I think you’ll approve of! I’ll be at the Bunyan show and introduce myself.
@alanhow3575
@alanhow3575 20 күн бұрын
Keep in mind what you gain in speed you loose in power. My home made splitter is 15 secs a cycle which does me just fine as I need all the power I can get in Aussie hardwood. You don’t need such long travel. This is where you can loose time. No need to bleed lines.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors 20 күн бұрын
Thanks Alan, you are correct. The power is a bit less but will still split almost anything I need it to. I wasn’t sure about bleeding the lines but have since learned it was unnecessary.
@alanhow3575
@alanhow3575 19 күн бұрын
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors not having a dig mate. Did a great job. As long as it splits all you need is…..all you need. Cheers mate.
@autorepairandmore3842
@autorepairandmore3842 Жыл бұрын
Thats a good wood splitter. I Just picked up an old one and im about to put a newer honda motor on it. Keep up the good work.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I have Old Blue running better than ever right now, I keep fixing it up. It is built like a tank!
@champony6245
@champony6245 Жыл бұрын
No need to crack lines to bleed air hydraulic systems will always push the air back to the tank tighten lines and go great mod tho that will help a lot
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I wasn’t sure when I did this mod and recorded the video. I figured better safe than sorry. One thing I like about having a channel is the fact that not only can I help others with ideas but others can help me with comments as well. I still have a lot to learn. Learning every day.
@inthebackyardwithdel438
@inthebackyardwithdel438 Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe how much faster big blue is now . That really is a very nice splitter !!!!
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
It is a whole new machine!! Can not believe I didn’t do this years ago. Thanks for watching and commenting. Have a great day!
@steveashworth6707
@steveashworth6707 Жыл бұрын
Good job !.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve.
@cousinitt7915
@cousinitt7915 Жыл бұрын
Good work and improvement!
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Definitely made Old Blue a lot better!
@thefirewooddoctor
@thefirewooddoctor Жыл бұрын
Nice improvement. At least now it is a viable splitter for any level of production.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Definitely, just wish I would have done it years ago!
@randygrider9758
@randygrider9758 10 ай бұрын
There is no need to bleed the cylinder, any air will get pushed in return line to the hydraulic tank. Tank has a breather
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Randy, I wasn’t sure at the time I made this video but have since learned quite a bit about hydraulics. Still a rookie but learning as I go.
@davidwhite5858
@davidwhite5858 8 ай бұрын
You are absolutely correct.
@charminghollowforge1109
@charminghollowforge1109 Жыл бұрын
Had me on the driving tips !!!!!!
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thank you, a few people really didn’t like them. I thought it was sort of funny, and a little educational. I never thought about the guy pulling a trailer until I was that guy.
@charminghollowforge1109
@charminghollowforge1109 Жыл бұрын
Grew up in the sleeper of Peter built and dad farmed and raised a nursery of ornamental trees at the same time. I guess you could say I was upfetched right which is a hard thing to find it seems nowadays
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Yes it is!
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
@@charminghollowforge1109 my dad was a diesel mechanic for Freightliner for over 45 years. He’d occasionally come give us a ride if he was out on a test drive.
@RRaucina
@RRaucina Жыл бұрын
Your major flow restriction is at the elbows, not the line diameter. "What is the pressure loss in a 90 degree elbow? Designers usually apply the general rule that a 90" elbow bend has a pressure drop equivalent of 30 to 50 pipe-diameters length of straight pipe" Use longer pipe or long radius elbows.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Richard, thank you for the information. Definitely something to consider.
@Huzzunga
@Huzzunga 5 ай бұрын
Boules law on fluid pressure in an enclosed space states otherwise. Pressure is equal everywhere. Aircraft actuators have 90 degree elbows and it’s going to be 3,000 psi wherever you measure it
@RRaucina
@RRaucina 5 ай бұрын
Pressure and FLOW rate are entirely different. GPM at the pump is limited by the fluid delivery piping length and turns.@@Huzzunga
@kingsleycollins6730
@kingsleycollins6730 Жыл бұрын
Nice project❤❤, pls what's responsible for faster movement of the cylinder?
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I think the biggest difference is the diameter of the inner cylinder on the hydraulic Ram. It is a larger diameter than the old ram so it has a little less power but is way faster.
@aussiefarmer8741
@aussiefarmer8741 11 ай бұрын
Did you change the size of the push and retract hoses , are they still 1/2''. What size pump you running? My oil gets hot , I have a 1'' return hose but the delivery hoses are 1/2'' I think I will swap out for 3/4'' for less restriction. The pump is 2 stage 28gpm. So it hoots along. The cycle time is amazing.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors 11 ай бұрын
Yes, I changed out all of the hoses to larger sizes. This machine only had a 22gpm pump. I think you definitely should upsize from 1/2” for that machine.
@Living-The-Dream
@Living-The-Dream Жыл бұрын
🪵🪓👍👏 looking good Rick
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick. Huge improvement for sure but no where close to what my new splitter should do!
@jamesrussell6870
@jamesrussell6870 Жыл бұрын
Do you have reducers on in feed/out feed lines on the cylinder?
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
I did not put reducers on, I had the lines built at a shop,
@gregstone670
@gregstone670 Жыл бұрын
I am new to your channel and just watched your video. I have the same problem with my splitter being too slow I was wondering if you change anything else beside the cylinder and the return hose. What size is the pump on blue?
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
That is all I changed on Blue. As far as I can tell it is a 22gpm pump. The cylinder size and ratio made the biggest difference.
@gregstone670
@gregstone670 Жыл бұрын
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Thank you, sir, changing out the cylinder was going be my next move.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
I was apprehensive but really glad I did it!
@gregstone670
@gregstone670 Жыл бұрын
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Do happen to know the spec on the timberwolf cylinder?
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
The outer diameter of the cylinder is 4.5” and the shaft is 2 3/4”. If you need any other information let me know and I’ll try to get it for you.
@incubatork
@incubatork Жыл бұрын
Loved the rant, I agree entirely, what bugs me is the drivers trying to fit their hood into my tail pipe, they are so close you could have a conversation. Some nice splitters you got there, I need to upgrade mine but never seem to get round to it. All those 90°s on the blue will have a lot to do with cycle time too, you could turn the controles to verticle and have the same hoses going strait in without the 90°s. A good way to check for problems is a one of those IR temperature guns, after running a while the problem areas will be hotter than the rest, follow the circuit from the pump output all the way round to the tank return and look for sudden temperature rise in and out of each component.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thank you Derek, I never thought of that. I love learning more! I have since upgraded from old blue but still good information to know.
@akbychoice
@akbychoice 11 ай бұрын
@@hardworkingmanoutdoorsthe IR temperature guns are good for checking trailer wheel bearings too.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@akbychoice definitely, I use mine a lot for the flat top griddle too while cooking. So many uses. Thanks for commenting!
@dporrasxtremeLS3
@dporrasxtremeLS3 9 ай бұрын
Ticket Money! Love it! Totally agree! Now for the business at hand!
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors 9 ай бұрын
@@dporrasxtremeLS3 thank you!
@RRaucina
@RRaucina Жыл бұрын
@ $1,300 delivered you could have a 27 ton NEW Yardmax splitter.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
I used to have a 35 ton Huskee and even before I sped old blue up I could make more wood with it easier than I could with that splitter due to being able to push the splits through, stacking splits, and the 4 way. Now with is running at a decent cycle time I definitely prefer it to a box store wedge on the ram style splitter. It also sits higher making working it easier on my back. A lot of wood is split every year with yard max, huskee, etc. splitters but I definitely prefer the push through style. Also a lot of easy modifications could make Blue even better! Thanks for watching and commenting.
@Alan_Hans__
@Alan_Hans__ Жыл бұрын
Love the term " ticket money". Teflon tape shouldn't be used on hydraulics. It can break apart and cause contamination or blockages. There's paste that can be used. Because of the oversized rod used on those cylinders there is a much higher flow rate when the ram is retracting. This is often well in excess of what your valve can comfortably handle. This is why dump valves get fitted on splitters with oversized rods. You may end up with some oil overheating problems if your valve is close to the capacity of the pump. If they are both 15gpm for instance then it could easily be more like 40gpm that you are trying to force through the valve when retracting. If you don't have overheating problems you'll now have yourself a fair beast.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Alan, thanks for the info. That makes sense with the Teflon tape, you can see in the video I pick a little debris out after removing the old lines which also has Teflon tape. I have no idea what these valves are rated for, I believe I may have a 22gpm but am not sure. The hydraulic tank is 12 gallons. I have run it a bit since and it has not gotten too hot yet I will definitely keep an eye on it. Thanks for the tips and for watching and commenting. My ticket money is gone for a little bit now as I just picked up my new splitter! I am trying to get that on the channel shortly I have a few videos to catch up on.
@Alan_Hans__
@Alan_Hans__ Жыл бұрын
I've never needed ticket money as yet. I am thinking with all the money I have saved in more than 30 years of driving and not needing to use it I should finally buy myself a box store splitter and then speed it up. Maybe put a Binford 6100 splitter kit through it.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Knock on wood it’s been well over 20 years for me. You’d have the fastest box store splitter out there.
@davidwhite5858
@davidwhite5858 8 ай бұрын
Wanted to know how big your pump was? 11 gpm?
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors 8 ай бұрын
David, I am not sure what it was and I have since given it away. I believe it was 22gpm though?
@firewoodathome
@firewoodathome Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill.
@eddiemortontapman7252
@eddiemortontapman7252 Жыл бұрын
Good views
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks Eddie.
@jamesmckay9966
@jamesmckay9966 9 ай бұрын
I THINK THAT USING TAPE ON HYDRULIC FITTINGS IS A NO NO/
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors 9 ай бұрын
Yes, I have learned this now.
@davidwhite5858
@davidwhite5858 8 ай бұрын
Never put tape on hydraulic fittings .
@toddpacheco4748
@toddpacheco4748 Жыл бұрын
I hear you loud and clear and I don’t like the people that use their derectecuals at the last minute I’m a bad speller
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Definitely! Thanks for watching.
@janosvadas
@janosvadas Жыл бұрын
Watch the radius like one the return into the tank. A harsh bend like that can destroy the hose
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks John, I did not know that but have already added another fitting to take that bend out.
@janosvadas
@janosvadas Жыл бұрын
You may want to just take the splitter to the hydraulic shop and ask them to replace all the lines/fittings with radiused fittings. All those reducing fittings and 90’s create a lot of power loss.
@vincemadera9844
@vincemadera9844 Жыл бұрын
Do you know if there’s a way to make it reciprocate?
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Do you mean to autocycle? If that is what you’re asking it could be done but I would need to buy an autocycle valve for it.
@janosvadas
@janosvadas Жыл бұрын
Annular cutter and a mag drill for holes like that.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thank you, it was a bit of a task getting it drilled with my old Milwaukee.
@janosvadas
@janosvadas Жыл бұрын
You can get a mag drill at a local United rental. Waste your day running for the rental etc for the 5 minutes it would take to punch them holes.
@jimmieburleigh9549
@jimmieburleigh9549 7 ай бұрын
I wonder if it would of gotten a little faster changing the pump as well??
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
Probably, maybe the valves too.
@brianrizzi6321
@brianrizzi6321 Жыл бұрын
You might put a 22 gpm pump on there now that you have 3/4 inch lines. I bet you’d be sub 7 seconds. Mine has about the same setup with the 22 gpm pump and a slightly bigger cylinder than yours and smaller rod and I’m still at 9 seconds.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Brian, I believe it has a 22gpm pump but not positive. I do know the Honda motor on Blue wasn’t running right and that may have had something to do with it. I have a newer 13hp Honda I am putting on it now and we will see how it does.
@rachelpostma4505
@rachelpostma4505 Жыл бұрын
Wow! That makes that splitter way faster! I wonder what the new splitter will do if this one is that fast.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Your going to love it!!!
@thefirewooddoctor
@thefirewooddoctor Жыл бұрын
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors, too bad we can't race our splitters against each other. Can't wait to try mine out Friday. Bet you are as excited as I am to get the new toy. We are probably like kids at Christmas.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Definitely! I picked mine up the other day! Need to get caught up on videos and get it posted. I’m going to need more wood!
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
I hope to make a few road trips in the future! I think a few splitter races would be cool.
@toddwilliams8911
@toddwilliams8911 Жыл бұрын
I just had someone dive in front of me last night with a trailer full of wood. I came within a foot of flattening them.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Glad everything worked out! It’s definitely something I don’t think a lot of people realize. Definitely not a good feeling!
@nicolec7290
@nicolec7290 11 ай бұрын
You left the lines to the cylinder lose , so it would bleed I’m confused
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors 11 ай бұрын
I did, I later found out that was not necessary. Learning as I go.
@TheDuttonExperience
@TheDuttonExperience Жыл бұрын
So at what point in this video does it tell you how to make your splitter faster like the title says
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
When o took the cycle time down from 24 seconds to 11 seconds by upgrading the hydraulic lines and new ram. Thanks for watching.
@skeets6060
@skeets6060 Жыл бұрын
So how much did this cost you?
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
I think with the cylinder, new lines, hydraulic fluid etc it was around $700 total.
@AATreeService
@AATreeService Жыл бұрын
U don’t need to bleed air on hydraulic! It will do it on its own when it returns back to the tank
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thank you I wasn’t sure and figured better safe than sorry. One thing I like about having a channel like this is that I can learn from others and some things others will learn from me.
@AATreeService
@AATreeService Жыл бұрын
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors that’s why I’m here as well!
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Love that about this sect of KZfaq.
@johnr5545
@johnr5545 Жыл бұрын
God bless
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thank you John!
@TroubledTimes2024
@TroubledTimes2024 Жыл бұрын
Well, that got old really fast, wasn't interested in driving lessons :)
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, constantly trying to improve my channel and learning as I go.
@williamklein6649
@williamklein6649 Жыл бұрын
Like to see this split once it’s done
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
William That will be coming up in the next few videos! Thanks for watching and commenting.
@williamklein6649
@williamklein6649 Жыл бұрын
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors perfect. You must be close to me.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Where are you at? I’m by St Clair, Mi.
@williamklein6649
@williamklein6649 Жыл бұрын
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Richmond
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Right down the road.
@hardset-vi3ze
@hardset-vi3ze Жыл бұрын
Obvious you're all about speed, so why use those adjustable wrenches that always seem to be too tight or too loose. Get some decent solid wrenches. How much did that total mode cost you, not including a paint job? It couldn't have been cheap?
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting. The total cost was around $800. As far as wrenches go I have them in the garage and looking back I should have grabbed the proper sizes.
@beemerkon
@beemerkon Жыл бұрын
Maybe you should keep your eyes on the big yellow lines instead of your camera in the cup holder
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Nah we’re good. Thanks for watching.
@edwardesty4951
@edwardesty4951 Жыл бұрын
Apparently this has nothing to do with a wood splitter
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Sorry you feel that way. There is a lot of good information in the video. I constantly learn and try to improve making videos. Thanks for the feedback.
@alanwraight3139
@alanwraight3139 7 ай бұрын
I have my volume right up and I can bearly hear you.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
We had some issues with audio in our early videos. We have figured it out now though.
@grifonks
@grifonks Жыл бұрын
I stumbled on your channel, thanks for the video but no subscription from me because of the beginning rant. I'm not down with spending time watching a state of affairs traffic rant. It's your business but I doubt that many folks are interested in a rant
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Well thanks for watching sorry one little thing turned you off but to each their own. Have a great day. Thanks for the feedback.
@grifonks
@grifonks Жыл бұрын
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors I don't usually complain, we all deal with these issues. I have a '99 7.3 f350 dually and a trailer, 36' gooseneck dovetail. When I get perturbed with traffic I just remind myself that those folks out there don't have any clue about my issues and that I consider myself a pro. Past CDL, 50 years experience, its on me brother.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
@@grifonks stay safe out there.
@brianrizzi6321
@brianrizzi6321 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the first part can be edited out
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Brian, thanks for the feedback. I am learning as I go with the channel and try to improve with each video.
@edfeldpausch7169
@edfeldpausch7169 Жыл бұрын
23 south is the perfect example. They spend millions In taxpayer dollars for a left lane they don't let you even use. The section between I96 and 14. Dumbest thing I've ever seen.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Ed I just scratch my head sometimes.
@KnottsFishing
@KnottsFishing 28 күн бұрын
No need for a rant. Here for the log splitter not your opinions.
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@KnottsFishing
@KnottsFishing 27 күн бұрын
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors thank god for fast forward! Bet you lost 1,000 of views in that rant.
@kknows3512
@kknows3512 Жыл бұрын
Guess what? I drive in any lane I want to at speed limit or slightly over. Just because some idiot wants to drive a lot faster is of no concern to me. So rant away!
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors Жыл бұрын
To each their own. Have a great day.
@christhomas9837
@christhomas9837 Жыл бұрын
It's people like you that cause accidents. There is a reason it's called the passing lane.
@terrycameron1897
@terrycameron1897 7 ай бұрын
Way too much talking and bragging
@hardworkingmanoutdoors
@hardworkingmanoutdoors 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
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